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Posted to dev@ofbiz.apache.org by David E Jones <da...@hotwaxmedia.com> on 2008/11/14 04:03:40 UTC
Use of Open Standards in Open For Business
NOTE: This is part of a more general effort to use some requirements
and designs to guide what we do in OFBiz. I'll be sending out more
messages along these lines.
In the new "OFBiz Requirements and Designs" space I have added a page
with information about open standards used in OFBiz, or that we could/
should use in OFBiz. This is an initial pass at this and will likely
need a lot of reorganization and maintenance over time, but already
has some information that I hope will be useful for people interested
in pursuing implementation of open standards, or use of
implementations of open standards. Here is the page:
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBREQDES/Open+Standards+for+OFBiz
There are a few ways these might be useful:
1. for those interested in supporting open standards and want to
implement them
2. for those who want to contribute to OFBiz but aren't sure what
would be good to implement
3. if you have an integration or standardized reporting need, why not
do it based on an open standard like UBL, OAGIS, or XBRL? in this way
you (or your client) will have a better thought out file format, and
one that may already have some existing code to support it, or others
in the community you can collaborate with to build it
If anyone has any questions, or any other standards you'd like to see
represented there, please do write!
-David
Re: Use of Open Standards in Open For Business
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
I am pliable, Not wanting to Start anything (tongue in cheek)
User Interface Layout Best Practices works for Me.
The impression I have gotten up to this point is
"We are not into friendly layout, but a basic place to start from"
As Ofbiz is going to be marketed, it should then be focus on the UI to
be intuitive and friendly.
since I use those words a lot that my be a place to start. defining what
those words mean.
others can then modify and expand on those definitions.
David E Jones sent the following on 11/15/2008 7:43 PM:
>
> We already have some UI guidelines for the project that could be
> extended to include these things. Adrian put quite a bit of work into
> that and there are documents in the admin space on docs.ofbiz.org.
>
> Creating a new standard... hmmmm... I think here at OFBiz we're more
> into "de-facto" standards driven by what exists in the project. We're
> really not setup to be a "standards body" or anything like it.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2008, at 1:30 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>
>> Actually it was something I was suggesting, in starting. :)
>> as you can see by your search not much focus is done on this, but I have
>> found that it is what most programming efforts miss.
>>
>> David E Jones sent the following on 11/15/2008 9:57 AM:
>>>
>>> This sounds interesting. What is the name of this standard? I tried
>>> searching for ["Open Business UI"] (ie with quotes) on google and it
>>> found no results, and without quotes an OFBiz resource was the first
>>> result.
>>>
>>> Do you have a URL or something?
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 14, 2008, at 12:21 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>
>>>> My favorite is Open Business UI standard.
>>>> Not from a programming point of view but from a business use.
>>>> 1) lowering Key strokes
>>>> 2) lowering Learning Curve.
>>>> 3) error processing (bullet proofing User Entry)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> David E Jones sent the following on 11/13/2008 7:03 PM:
>>>>>
>>>>> NOTE: This is part of a more general effort to use some
>>>>> requirements and
>>>>> designs to guide what we do in OFBiz. I'll be sending out more
>>>>> messages
>>>>> along these lines.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the new "OFBiz Requirements and Designs" space I have added a page
>>>>> with information about open standards used in OFBiz, or that we
>>>>> could/should use in OFBiz. This is an initial pass at this and will
>>>>> likely need a lot of reorganization and maintenance over time, but
>>>>> already has some information that I hope will be useful for people
>>>>> interested in pursuing implementation of open standards, or use of
>>>>> implementations of open standards. Here is the page:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBREQDES/Open+Standards+for+OFBiz
>>>>>
>>>>> There are a few ways these might be useful:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. for those interested in supporting open standards and want to
>>>>> implement them
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. for those who want to contribute to OFBiz but aren't sure what
>>>>> would
>>>>> be good to implement
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. if you have an integration or standardized reporting need, why
>>>>> not do
>>>>> it based on an open standard like UBL, OAGIS, or XBRL? in this way you
>>>>> (or your client) will have a better thought out file format, and one
>>>>> that may already have some existing code to support it, or others
>>>>> in the
>>>>> community you can collaborate with to build it
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone has any questions, or any other standards you'd like to see
>>>>> represented there, please do write!
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
Re: Use of Open Standards in Open For Business
Posted by David E Jones <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
We already have some UI guidelines for the project that could be
extended to include these things. Adrian put quite a bit of work into
that and there are documents in the admin space on docs.ofbiz.org.
Creating a new standard... hmmmm... I think here at OFBiz we're more
into "de-facto" standards driven by what exists in the project. We're
really not setup to be a "standards body" or anything like it.
-David
On Nov 15, 2008, at 1:30 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
> Actually it was something I was suggesting, in starting. :)
> as you can see by your search not much focus is done on this, but I
> have
> found that it is what most programming efforts miss.
>
> David E Jones sent the following on 11/15/2008 9:57 AM:
>>
>> This sounds interesting. What is the name of this standard? I tried
>> searching for ["Open Business UI"] (ie with quotes) on google and it
>> found no results, and without quotes an OFBiz resource was the first
>> result.
>>
>> Do you have a URL or something?
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Nov 14, 2008, at 12:21 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>
>>> My favorite is Open Business UI standard.
>>> Not from a programming point of view but from a business use.
>>> 1) lowering Key strokes
>>> 2) lowering Learning Curve.
>>> 3) error processing (bullet proofing User Entry)
>>>
>>>
>>> David E Jones sent the following on 11/13/2008 7:03 PM:
>>>>
>>>> NOTE: This is part of a more general effort to use some
>>>> requirements and
>>>> designs to guide what we do in OFBiz. I'll be sending out more
>>>> messages
>>>> along these lines.
>>>>
>>>> In the new "OFBiz Requirements and Designs" space I have added a
>>>> page
>>>> with information about open standards used in OFBiz, or that we
>>>> could/should use in OFBiz. This is an initial pass at this and will
>>>> likely need a lot of reorganization and maintenance over time, but
>>>> already has some information that I hope will be useful for people
>>>> interested in pursuing implementation of open standards, or use of
>>>> implementations of open standards. Here is the page:
>>>>
>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBREQDES/Open+Standards+for+OFBiz
>>>>
>>>> There are a few ways these might be useful:
>>>>
>>>> 1. for those interested in supporting open standards and want to
>>>> implement them
>>>>
>>>> 2. for those who want to contribute to OFBiz but aren't sure what
>>>> would
>>>> be good to implement
>>>>
>>>> 3. if you have an integration or standardized reporting need, why
>>>> not do
>>>> it based on an open standard like UBL, OAGIS, or XBRL? in this
>>>> way you
>>>> (or your client) will have a better thought out file format, and
>>>> one
>>>> that may already have some existing code to support it, or others
>>>> in the
>>>> community you can collaborate with to build it
>>>>
>>>> If anyone has any questions, or any other standards you'd like to
>>>> see
>>>> represented there, please do write!
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
Re: Use of Open Standards in Open For Business
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
Actually it was something I was suggesting, in starting. :)
as you can see by your search not much focus is done on this, but I have
found that it is what most programming efforts miss.
David E Jones sent the following on 11/15/2008 9:57 AM:
>
> This sounds interesting. What is the name of this standard? I tried
> searching for ["Open Business UI"] (ie with quotes) on google and it
> found no results, and without quotes an OFBiz resource was the first
> result.
>
> Do you have a URL or something?
>
> -David
>
>
> On Nov 14, 2008, at 12:21 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
>
>> My favorite is Open Business UI standard.
>> Not from a programming point of view but from a business use.
>> 1) lowering Key strokes
>> 2) lowering Learning Curve.
>> 3) error processing (bullet proofing User Entry)
>>
>>
>> David E Jones sent the following on 11/13/2008 7:03 PM:
>>>
>>> NOTE: This is part of a more general effort to use some requirements and
>>> designs to guide what we do in OFBiz. I'll be sending out more messages
>>> along these lines.
>>>
>>> In the new "OFBiz Requirements and Designs" space I have added a page
>>> with information about open standards used in OFBiz, or that we
>>> could/should use in OFBiz. This is an initial pass at this and will
>>> likely need a lot of reorganization and maintenance over time, but
>>> already has some information that I hope will be useful for people
>>> interested in pursuing implementation of open standards, or use of
>>> implementations of open standards. Here is the page:
>>>
>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBREQDES/Open+Standards+for+OFBiz
>>>
>>> There are a few ways these might be useful:
>>>
>>> 1. for those interested in supporting open standards and want to
>>> implement them
>>>
>>> 2. for those who want to contribute to OFBiz but aren't sure what would
>>> be good to implement
>>>
>>> 3. if you have an integration or standardized reporting need, why not do
>>> it based on an open standard like UBL, OAGIS, or XBRL? in this way you
>>> (or your client) will have a better thought out file format, and one
>>> that may already have some existing code to support it, or others in the
>>> community you can collaborate with to build it
>>>
>>> If anyone has any questions, or any other standards you'd like to see
>>> represented there, please do write!
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
Re: Use of Open Standards in Open For Business
Posted by David E Jones <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
This sounds interesting. What is the name of this standard? I tried
searching for ["Open Business UI"] (ie with quotes) on google and it
found no results, and without quotes an OFBiz resource was the first
result.
Do you have a URL or something?
-David
On Nov 14, 2008, at 12:21 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:
> My favorite is Open Business UI standard.
> Not from a programming point of view but from a business use.
> 1) lowering Key strokes
> 2) lowering Learning Curve.
> 3) error processing (bullet proofing User Entry)
>
>
> David E Jones sent the following on 11/13/2008 7:03 PM:
>>
>> NOTE: This is part of a more general effort to use some
>> requirements and
>> designs to guide what we do in OFBiz. I'll be sending out more
>> messages
>> along these lines.
>>
>> In the new "OFBiz Requirements and Designs" space I have added a page
>> with information about open standards used in OFBiz, or that we
>> could/should use in OFBiz. This is an initial pass at this and will
>> likely need a lot of reorganization and maintenance over time, but
>> already has some information that I hope will be useful for people
>> interested in pursuing implementation of open standards, or use of
>> implementations of open standards. Here is the page:
>>
>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBREQDES/Open+Standards+for+OFBiz
>>
>> There are a few ways these might be useful:
>>
>> 1. for those interested in supporting open standards and want to
>> implement them
>>
>> 2. for those who want to contribute to OFBiz but aren't sure what
>> would
>> be good to implement
>>
>> 3. if you have an integration or standardized reporting need, why
>> not do
>> it based on an open standard like UBL, OAGIS, or XBRL? in this way
>> you
>> (or your client) will have a better thought out file format, and one
>> that may already have some existing code to support it, or others
>> in the
>> community you can collaborate with to build it
>>
>> If anyone has any questions, or any other standards you'd like to see
>> represented there, please do write!
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>>
Re: Use of Open Standards in Open For Business
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
My favorite is Open Business UI standard.
Not from a programming point of view but from a business use.
1) lowering Key strokes
2) lowering Learning Curve.
3) error processing (bullet proofing User Entry)
David E Jones sent the following on 11/13/2008 7:03 PM:
>
> NOTE: This is part of a more general effort to use some requirements and
> designs to guide what we do in OFBiz. I'll be sending out more messages
> along these lines.
>
> In the new "OFBiz Requirements and Designs" space I have added a page
> with information about open standards used in OFBiz, or that we
> could/should use in OFBiz. This is an initial pass at this and will
> likely need a lot of reorganization and maintenance over time, but
> already has some information that I hope will be useful for people
> interested in pursuing implementation of open standards, or use of
> implementations of open standards. Here is the page:
>
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBREQDES/Open+Standards+for+OFBiz
>
> There are a few ways these might be useful:
>
> 1. for those interested in supporting open standards and want to
> implement them
>
> 2. for those who want to contribute to OFBiz but aren't sure what would
> be good to implement
>
> 3. if you have an integration or standardized reporting need, why not do
> it based on an open standard like UBL, OAGIS, or XBRL? in this way you
> (or your client) will have a better thought out file format, and one
> that may already have some existing code to support it, or others in the
> community you can collaborate with to build it
>
> If anyone has any questions, or any other standards you'd like to see
> represented there, please do write!
>
> -David
>
>
>