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live sites using SVG?
Hi
I'm curious to know if anyone out there in Cocoon land knows a live
implementation of Cocoon producing SVG content?
As well, is there any foundation to the "rumor" that a future version of
C2 will include Batik in the C2 publishing engine?
Many thanks in advance!
Dennis
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Re: live sites using SVG?
Posted by Denny <dd...@magic.fr>.
thanks Berin! I appreciate your help there!
Do you know of any live sites delivering SVG?
cheers
Denny
Berin Loritsch wrote:
>
> Denny wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> > I'm curious to know if anyone out there in Cocoon land knows a live
> > implementation of Cocoon producing SVG content?
>
> Don't know about that.
>
> > As well, is there any foundation to the "rumor" that a future version of
> > C2 will include Batik in the C2 publishing engine?
>
> Cocoon 2 already uses Batik, and has the official Batik 1.0 release in
> there.
>
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Re: live sites using SVG?
Posted by Berin Loritsch <bl...@apache.org>.
Stuart Roebuck wrote:
>
> On Thursday, May 24, 2001, at 06:50 pm, Berin Loritsch wrote:
>
> > Donald Ball wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 24 May 2001, Berin Loritsch wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Hi
> >>>> I'm curious to know if anyone out there in Cocoon land knows a live
> >>>> implementation of Cocoon producing SVG content?
> >>>
> >>> Don't know about that.
> >>>
> >>>> As well, is there any foundation to the "rumor" that a future version
> >>>> of
> >>>> C2 will include Batik in the C2 publishing engine?
> >>>
> >>> Cocoon 2 already uses Batik, and has the official Batik 1.0 release in
> >>> there.
> >>
> >> er, i don't know that _that's_ true, i think we have a prerelease
> >> batik.lib in cvs still - can you check on that? also, fwiw, the w3c.jar
> >> that comes with c2 has lots of class conflicts with some of batik's jars,
> >> batik-ext.jar in particular. tomcat-4.0b5 put it (w3c.jar) before batik
> >> in
> >> my classpath, which was causing the svg samples to fail. i nuked w3c.jar
> >> and everything works again. is that jar required by anything in c2? if
> >> not, +1 to remove it from the distro.
> >
> > I put it there myself, && w3c.jar has been removed already.
>
> w3c.jar is still in the latest C2.
Oops. I could have sworn I removed it.
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Re: live sites using SVG?
Posted by Stuart Roebuck <st...@adolos.co.uk>.
On Thursday, May 24, 2001, at 06:50 pm, Berin Loritsch wrote:
> Donald Ball wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 24 May 2001, Berin Loritsch wrote:
>>
>>>> Hi
>>>> I'm curious to know if anyone out there in Cocoon land knows a live
>>>> implementation of Cocoon producing SVG content?
>>>
>>> Don't know about that.
>>>
>>>> As well, is there any foundation to the "rumor" that a future version
>>>> of
>>>> C2 will include Batik in the C2 publishing engine?
>>>
>>> Cocoon 2 already uses Batik, and has the official Batik 1.0 release in
>>> there.
>>
>> er, i don't know that _that's_ true, i think we have a prerelease
>> batik.lib in cvs still - can you check on that? also, fwiw, the w3c.jar
>> that comes with c2 has lots of class conflicts with some of batik's jars,
>> batik-ext.jar in particular. tomcat-4.0b5 put it (w3c.jar) before batik
>> in
>> my classpath, which was causing the svg samples to fail. i nuked w3c.jar
>> and everything works again. is that jar required by anything in c2? if
>> not, +1 to remove it from the distro.
>
> I put it there myself, && w3c.jar has been removed already.
w3c.jar is still in the latest C2.
Stuart.
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Re: live sites using SVG?
Posted by giacomo <gi...@apache.org>.
On Thu, 24 May 2001, Berin Loritsch wrote:
> Donald Ball wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 24 May 2001, Berin Loritsch wrote:
> >
> > > > Hi
> > > > I'm curious to know if anyone out there in Cocoon land knows a live
> > > > implementation of Cocoon producing SVG content?
> > >
> > > Don't know about that.
> > >
> > > > As well, is there any foundation to the "rumor" that a future version of
> > > > C2 will include Batik in the C2 publishing engine?
> > >
> > > Cocoon 2 already uses Batik, and has the official Batik 1.0 release in
> > > there.
> >
> > er, i don't know that _that's_ true, i think we have a prerelease
> > batik.lib in cvs still - can you check on that? also, fwiw, the w3c.jar
> > that comes with c2 has lots of class conflicts with some of batik's jars,
> > batik-ext.jar in particular. tomcat-4.0b5 put it (w3c.jar) before batik in
> > my classpath, which was causing the svg samples to fail. i nuked w3c.jar
> > and everything works again. is that jar required by anything in c2? if
> > not, +1 to remove it from the distro.
>
> I put it there myself, && w3c.jar has been removed already.
When has w3c.jar been removed (it stays permanent in my lib dir)?
I'm +1 to remove all unneeded jar as well (it make our dist tarball
smaller :)
Giacomo
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Re: live sites using SVG?
Posted by Berin Loritsch <bl...@apache.org>.
Stuart Roebuck wrote:
>
> On Thursday, May 24, 2001, at 06:53 pm, Donald Ball wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 24 May 2001, Berin Loritsch wrote:
> >
> >>> er, i don't know that _that's_ true, i think we have a prerelease
> >>> batik.lib in cvs still - can you check on that? also, fwiw, the w3c.jar
> >>> that comes with c2 has lots of class conflicts with some of batik's
> >>> jars,
> >>> batik-ext.jar in particular. tomcat-4.0b5 put it (w3c.jar) before batik
> >>> in
> >>> my classpath, which was causing the svg samples to fail. i nuked w3c.jar
> >>> and everything works again. is that jar required by anything in c2? if
> >>> not, +1 to remove it from the distro.
> >>
> >> I put it there myself, && w3c.jar has been removed already.
> >
> > ah. damn cvs being down!
>
> CVS is working great here from Scotland. Or am I still working with some
> past version?
>
> The lastest change in my copy is Berin's update of Batik (2001-05-23 22:27)
AnonCVS is currently working, but direct CVS access is not.
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Re: live sites using SVG?
Posted by giacomo <gi...@apache.org>.
On Thu, 24 May 2001, Donald Ball wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2001, Stuart Roebuck wrote:
>
> > CVS is working great here from Scotland. Or am I still working with some
> > past version?
>
> anonymous cvs is up, authenticated cvs is down. beta plans are on hold
> until it's back up, naturally.
Inevitably yes :/
Giacomo
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Re: live sites using SVG?
Posted by Donald Ball <ba...@webslingerZ.com>.
On Thu, 24 May 2001, Stuart Roebuck wrote:
> CVS is working great here from Scotland. Or am I still working with some
> past version?
anonymous cvs is up, authenticated cvs is down. beta plans are on hold
until it's back up, naturally.
- donald
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Re: live sites using SVG?
Posted by Stuart Roebuck <st...@adolos.co.uk>.
On Thursday, May 24, 2001, at 06:53 pm, Donald Ball wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2001, Berin Loritsch wrote:
>
>>> er, i don't know that _that's_ true, i think we have a prerelease
>>> batik.lib in cvs still - can you check on that? also, fwiw, the w3c.jar
>>> that comes with c2 has lots of class conflicts with some of batik's
>>> jars,
>>> batik-ext.jar in particular. tomcat-4.0b5 put it (w3c.jar) before batik
>>> in
>>> my classpath, which was causing the svg samples to fail. i nuked w3c.jar
>>> and everything works again. is that jar required by anything in c2? if
>>> not, +1 to remove it from the distro.
>>
>> I put it there myself, && w3c.jar has been removed already.
>
> ah. damn cvs being down!
CVS is working great here from Scotland. Or am I still working with some
past version?
The lastest change in my copy is Berin's update of Batik (2001-05-23 22:27)
.
Stuart.
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Re: live sites using SVG?
Posted by Donald Ball <ba...@webslingerZ.com>.
On Thu, 24 May 2001, Berin Loritsch wrote:
> > er, i don't know that _that's_ true, i think we have a prerelease
> > batik.lib in cvs still - can you check on that? also, fwiw, the w3c.jar
> > that comes with c2 has lots of class conflicts with some of batik's jars,
> > batik-ext.jar in particular. tomcat-4.0b5 put it (w3c.jar) before batik in
> > my classpath, which was causing the svg samples to fail. i nuked w3c.jar
> > and everything works again. is that jar required by anything in c2? if
> > not, +1 to remove it from the distro.
>
> I put it there myself, && w3c.jar has been removed already.
ah. damn cvs being down!
- donald
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Re: live sites using SVG?
Posted by Berin Loritsch <bl...@apache.org>.
Donald Ball wrote:
>
> On Thu, 24 May 2001, Berin Loritsch wrote:
>
> > > Hi
> > > I'm curious to know if anyone out there in Cocoon land knows a live
> > > implementation of Cocoon producing SVG content?
> >
> > Don't know about that.
> >
> > > As well, is there any foundation to the "rumor" that a future version of
> > > C2 will include Batik in the C2 publishing engine?
> >
> > Cocoon 2 already uses Batik, and has the official Batik 1.0 release in
> > there.
>
> er, i don't know that _that's_ true, i think we have a prerelease
> batik.lib in cvs still - can you check on that? also, fwiw, the w3c.jar
> that comes with c2 has lots of class conflicts with some of batik's jars,
> batik-ext.jar in particular. tomcat-4.0b5 put it (w3c.jar) before batik in
> my classpath, which was causing the svg samples to fail. i nuked w3c.jar
> and everything works again. is that jar required by anything in c2? if
> not, +1 to remove it from the distro.
I put it there myself, && w3c.jar has been removed already.
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Re: live sites using SVG?
Posted by Donald Ball <ba...@webslingerZ.com>.
On Thu, 24 May 2001, Berin Loritsch wrote:
> > Hi
> > I'm curious to know if anyone out there in Cocoon land knows a live
> > implementation of Cocoon producing SVG content?
>
> Don't know about that.
>
> > As well, is there any foundation to the "rumor" that a future version of
> > C2 will include Batik in the C2 publishing engine?
>
> Cocoon 2 already uses Batik, and has the official Batik 1.0 release in
> there.
er, i don't know that _that's_ true, i think we have a prerelease
batik.lib in cvs still - can you check on that? also, fwiw, the w3c.jar
that comes with c2 has lots of class conflicts with some of batik's jars,
batik-ext.jar in particular. tomcat-4.0b5 put it (w3c.jar) before batik in
my classpath, which was causing the svg samples to fail. i nuked w3c.jar
and everything works again. is that jar required by anything in c2? if
not, +1 to remove it from the distro.
- donald
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Re: live sites using SVG?
Posted by Berin Loritsch <bl...@apache.org>.
Denny wrote:
>
> Hi
> I'm curious to know if anyone out there in Cocoon land knows a live
> implementation of Cocoon producing SVG content?
Don't know about that.
> As well, is there any foundation to the "rumor" that a future version of
> C2 will include Batik in the C2 publishing engine?
Cocoon 2 already uses Batik, and has the official Batik 1.0 release in
there.
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Re: live sites using SVG
Posted by Denny <dd...@magic.fr>.
Thanks for the link! I know about Pinkjuice! A monster in the SVG
land...is Tobias in the Cocoon user group as well?
cheers
Denny
stefan werner wrote:
>
> hi,
> here are some links dealing with svg.
> http://www.pinkjuice.com/SVG/SVGlinks.htm
> thanks to tobias
>
> stefan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Denny" <dd...@magic.fr>
> To: <co...@xml.apache.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 9:46 AM
> Subject: Re: live sites using SVG?
>
> > Thanks Stefan!
> >
> > I know about the Adobe stuff but I'll ck out what Sun is up to...thanks
> > again! If you find/hear about others I'd really appreciate the links!
> >
> > Denny
> >
> > stefan werner wrote:
> > >
> > > hello,
> > > cocoon1 does a good work in serving svgraphics,
> > > put your interactivity, behaviours or else in an .xsl-file to transform
> your
> > > svg-file. it works, because it is xml.
> > > with javascript and svg, you can do a lot of amusing things flash f.e.
> can't
> > > do.
> > > if you want to 'transcode' svg-files to .jpg or .png you need batik's
> > > transcoder-classes.
> > > there are some nice dynamic svg examples at adobe's
> > > site.
> > > http://www.adobe.com/svg/
> > >
> > > svg&jsp example at http://www.sun.com/software/xml/developers/svg/jsp/
> > >
> > > stefan
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Denny" <dd...@magic.fr>
> > > To: <co...@xml.apache.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 3:36 PM
> > > Subject: live sites using SVG?
> > >
> > > > Hi
> > > > I'm curious to know if anyone out there in Cocoon land knows a live
> > > > implementation of Cocoon producing SVG content?
> > > >
> > > > As well, is there any foundation to the "rumor" that a future version
> of
> > > > C2 will include Batik in the C2 publishing engine?
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks in advance!
> > > >
> > > > Dennis
> > > >
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Re: live sites using SVG?
Posted by stefan werner <st...@netcologne.de>.
hi,
here are some links dealing with svg.
http://www.pinkjuice.com/SVG/SVGlinks.htm
thanks to tobias
stefan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Denny" <dd...@magic.fr>
To: <co...@xml.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: live sites using SVG?
> Thanks Stefan!
>
> I know about the Adobe stuff but I'll ck out what Sun is up to...thanks
> again! If you find/hear about others I'd really appreciate the links!
>
> Denny
>
> stefan werner wrote:
> >
> > hello,
> > cocoon1 does a good work in serving svgraphics,
> > put your interactivity, behaviours or else in an .xsl-file to transform
your
> > svg-file. it works, because it is xml.
> > with javascript and svg, you can do a lot of amusing things flash f.e.
can't
> > do.
> > if you want to 'transcode' svg-files to .jpg or .png you need batik's
> > transcoder-classes.
> > there are some nice dynamic svg examples at adobe's
> > site.
> > http://www.adobe.com/svg/
> >
> > svg&jsp example at http://www.sun.com/software/xml/developers/svg/jsp/
> >
> > stefan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Denny" <dd...@magic.fr>
> > To: <co...@xml.apache.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 3:36 PM
> > Subject: live sites using SVG?
> >
> > > Hi
> > > I'm curious to know if anyone out there in Cocoon land knows a live
> > > implementation of Cocoon producing SVG content?
> > >
> > > As well, is there any foundation to the "rumor" that a future version
of
> > > C2 will include Batik in the C2 publishing engine?
> > >
> > > Many thanks in advance!
> > >
> > > Dennis
> > >
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Re: live sites using SVG?
Posted by Denny <dd...@magic.fr>.
Thanks Stefan!
I know about the Adobe stuff but I'll ck out what Sun is up to...thanks
again! If you find/hear about others I'd really appreciate the links!
Denny
stefan werner wrote:
>
> hello,
> cocoon1 does a good work in serving svgraphics,
> put your interactivity, behaviours or else in an .xsl-file to transform your
> svg-file. it works, because it is xml.
> with javascript and svg, you can do a lot of amusing things flash f.e. can't
> do.
> if you want to 'transcode' svg-files to .jpg or .png you need batik's
> transcoder-classes.
> there are some nice dynamic svg examples at adobe's
> site.
> http://www.adobe.com/svg/
>
> svg&jsp example at http://www.sun.com/software/xml/developers/svg/jsp/
>
> stefan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Denny" <dd...@magic.fr>
> To: <co...@xml.apache.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 3:36 PM
> Subject: live sites using SVG?
>
> > Hi
> > I'm curious to know if anyone out there in Cocoon land knows a live
> > implementation of Cocoon producing SVG content?
> >
> > As well, is there any foundation to the "rumor" that a future version of
> > C2 will include Batik in the C2 publishing engine?
> >
> > Many thanks in advance!
> >
> > Dennis
> >
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Re: live sites using SVG?
Posted by stefan werner <st...@netcologne.de>.
hello,
cocoon1 does a good work in serving svgraphics,
put your interactivity, behaviours or else in an .xsl-file to transform your
svg-file. it works, because it is xml.
with javascript and svg, you can do a lot of amusing things flash f.e. can't
do.
if you want to 'transcode' svg-files to .jpg or .png you need batik's
transcoder-classes.
there are some nice dynamic svg examples at adobe's
site.
http://www.adobe.com/svg/
svg&jsp example at http://www.sun.com/software/xml/developers/svg/jsp/
stefan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Denny" <dd...@magic.fr>
To: <co...@xml.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 3:36 PM
Subject: live sites using SVG?
> Hi
> I'm curious to know if anyone out there in Cocoon land knows a live
> implementation of Cocoon producing SVG content?
>
> As well, is there any foundation to the "rumor" that a future version of
> C2 will include Batik in the C2 publishing engine?
>
> Many thanks in advance!
>
> Dennis
>
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Re: live sites using SVG?
Posted by Denny <dd...@magic.fr>.
Thanks Giacomo
Some other users had indicated as much and I'm sufficiently ashamed of
my ignorance in this matter ;)
If you or anyone else hears of live sites producing SVG I'd really
appreciate the link...
cheers to all and thanks again
Denny
giacomo wrote:
>
> On Thu, 24 May 2001, Denny wrote:
>
> > Hi
> > I'm curious to know if anyone out there in Cocoon land knows a live
> > implementation of Cocoon producing SVG content?
>
> No
>
> > As well, is there any foundation to the "rumor" that a future version of
> > C2 will include Batik in the C2 publishing engine?
>
> C2 already uses Batik to render SVG to raster images. So your "rumor" is
> a fact since months.
>
> Giacomo
>
> >
> > Many thanks in advance!
> >
> > Dennis
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Re: live sites using SVG?
Posted by giacomo <gi...@apache.org>.
On Thu, 24 May 2001, Denny wrote:
> Hi
> I'm curious to know if anyone out there in Cocoon land knows a live
> implementation of Cocoon producing SVG content?
No
> As well, is there any foundation to the "rumor" that a future version of
> C2 will include Batik in the C2 publishing engine?
C2 already uses Batik to render SVG to raster images. So your "rumor" is
a fact since months.
Giacomo
>
> Many thanks in advance!
>
> Dennis
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Re: live sites using SVG?
Posted by Denny <dd...@magic.fr>.
Thanks Vadim
I appreciate your clarifying this for me!
Denny
Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Denny [mailto:ddaniels@magic.fr]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 9:36
> > To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
> > Subject: live sites using SVG?
> >
> >
> > Hi
> > I'm curious to know if anyone out there in Cocoon land knows a live
> > implementation of Cocoon producing SVG content?
> >
> > As well, is there any foundation to the "rumor" that a future version of
> > C2 will include Batik in the C2 publishing engine?
>
> C2 includes Batik by default. That's was done really long time ago.
>
> Vadim
>
> >
> > Many thanks in advance!
> >
> > Dennis
>
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RE: live sites using SVG?
Posted by Vadim Gritsenko <vg...@hns.com>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Denny [mailto:ddaniels@magic.fr]
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 9:36
> To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
> Subject: live sites using SVG?
>
>
> Hi
> I'm curious to know if anyone out there in Cocoon land knows a live
> implementation of Cocoon producing SVG content?
>
> As well, is there any foundation to the "rumor" that a future version of
> C2 will include Batik in the C2 publishing engine?
C2 includes Batik by default. That's was done really long time ago.
Vadim
>
> Many thanks in advance!
>
> Dennis
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