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french translation
Hi to all,
New to the list, I present myself:
my name is Lucien GENTIS and I work in
the "IUFM de Lorraine" in Nancy (France)
as Informatic Assistant Engineer
I noticed that some pages of Apache doc were not
translated in french, so I would like to contribute to
this translation.
In that purpose, could someone introduce me to the
person(s) who are responsible of french translation,
or simply explain whereby I have to begin the job.
Cheers
Lucien
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Re: french translation
Posted by Tony Stevenson <to...@pc-tony.com>.
Jean-François El Fouly wrote:
...
> OK I'll be the bad boy, launch yet another flame war and piss off some
> people in this list...
> I suggest you have a look far enough in the archives.
> Vincent Deffontaines (in 2004), "Alain B" and myself (in 2005) devoted
> quite a lot of energy translating Apache doc into French. And it has
> never been committed. It all ended up in acid discussions with the
> committers and basically all this energy was spent in vain.
> So you'd better make sure the context has changed before you devote
> any time or energy to the French translation project.
Francois,
I'm sure that wont happen again, if there is something that needs to be
discussed it is better done on the list for the benefit of everyone.
Why dont you go to http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/Translations/French
and add a page in there, that is the direct French translation of a
current docs page.
You will need to sign up and create a wiki userid. Once you have done
this, you can easily contribute your translations. Once they have then
been verified by a second native speaker of that language you can submit
it to this list (for now at least).
As noodl (Vincent) says someone is working on creating an XLST file so
people can contribute to the wiki, without having to re-work it so it
meets the current XML standards that the docs build process currently uses.
Once the required steps have been taken, and all the necessary criteria
have been met, I cannot see why the docs (if submitted now) would not be
committed.
I hope this is ok, and look forward to seeing many French translations
coming this way.
--
Tony
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Re: french translation
Posted by Jean-François El Fouly <je...@elfouly.nom.fr>.
Lucien GENTIS a écrit :
> Hi to all,
>
> New to the list, I present myself:
> my name is Lucien GENTIS and I work in
> the "IUFM de Lorraine" in Nancy (France)
> as Informatic Assistant Engineer
>
> I noticed that some pages of Apache doc were not
> translated in french, so I would like to contribute to
> this translation.
> In that purpose, could someone introduce me to the
> person(s) who are responsible of french translation,
> or simply explain whereby I have to begin the job.
>
> Cheers
>
> Lucien
OK I'll be the bad boy, launch yet another flame war and piss off some
people in this list...
I suggest you have a look far enough in the archives.
Vincent Deffontaines (in 2004), "Alain B" and myself (in 2005) devoted
quite a lot of energy translating Apache doc into French. And it has
never been committed. It all ended up in acid discussions with the
committers and basically all this energy was spent in vain.
So you'd better make sure the context has changed before you devote any
time or energy to the French translation project.
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Re: french translation
Posted by Lucien GENTIS <lu...@lorraine.iufm.fr>.
Rémi Goyard a écrit :
> hi,
> I'm also interested in doing the french translation ...
> regards
> Rémi
>
>
>
> 2007/6/10, Vincent Bray <noodlet@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>:
>
> On 10/06/07, Lucien GENTIS <lucien.gentis@lorraine.iufm.fr
> <ma...@lorraine.iufm.fr>> wrote:
> > PS: some pages were however tranlated in french; could
> > someone tell us who made this job ?
> > Is he/she still contributing ?
>
> See the docs-project page:
>
> http://httpd.apache.org/docs-project/
>
> including the guidelines on translating the docs, here:
>
> http://httpd.apache.org/docs-project/translations.html
> <http://httpd.apache.org/docs-project/translations.html>
>
> Essentially translations must be reviewed by another native speaker,
> so having the two of you should work out well. I don't know if the
> previous French translator(s) are still active. Another regular on
> this list is preparing an xslt stylesheet which I think transforms the
> xml for mat of the docs to a format suitable for the wiki here:
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/Translations
> <http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/Translations>
>
> I believe the idea is to use the wiki for collaborative translation
> before submitting pages to be committed.
>
> --
> noodl
>
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Hi Rémi,
Welcome in french translators staff :-))
We are still organizing this project, and
after two days there's already 1 reviewer and you are the
3rd translator. Nice, isn't it ?
Could we reach 1 translator per section ? ;-)
So I come back soon to you to discuss how to share the work
Lucien
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Re: french translation
Posted by Rémi Goyard <rg...@gmail.com>.
hi,
I'm also interested in doing the french translation ...
regards
Rémi
2007/6/10, Vincent Bray <no...@gmail.com>:
>
> On 10/06/07, Lucien GENTIS <lu...@lorraine.iufm.fr> wrote:
> > PS: some pages were however tranlated in french; could
> > someone tell us who made this job ?
> > Is he/she still contributing ?
>
> See the docs-project page:
>
> http://httpd.apache.org/docs-project/
>
> including the guidelines on translating the docs, here:
>
> http://httpd.apache.org/docs-project/translations.html
>
> Essentially translations must be reviewed by another native speaker,
> so having the two of you should work out well. I don't know if the
> previous French translator(s) are still active. Another regular on
> this list is preparing an xslt stylesheet which I think transforms the
> xml for mat of the docs to a format suitable for the wiki here:
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/Translations
>
> I believe the idea is to use the wiki for collaborative translation
> before submitting pages to be committed.
>
> --
> noodl
>
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Re: french translation
Posted by Vincent Deffontaines <vi...@gryzor.com>.
Vinko Vrsalovic wrote:
>
>
> On 6/10/07, *Vincent Bray* <noodlet@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
> Essentially translations must be reviewed by another native speaker,
> so having the two of you should work out well. I don't know if the
> previous French translator(s) are still active. Another regular on
> this list is preparing an xslt stylesheet which I think transforms
> the
> xml for mat of the docs to a format suitable for the wiki here:
>
>
>
> Yes, I'm building it it currently has some problems but nothing
> unsolvable I should think. I guess after it produces nice looking
> output I'll submit it here for XSL experts to review and improve (my
> work will probably suck big time)
>
> Another thing I've been thinking about is the reverse translation, xsl
> won't cut it... I'm thinking about leaving enough information in the
> wiki output for it to be xml-able again with a perl script or
> something. Ideas?
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/Translations
> <http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/Translations>
>
> I believe the idea is to use the wiki for collaborative translation
> before submitting pages to be committed.
>
>
> Yes, that's the idea.
>
> Also it should lower the barrier of entry for people to contribute to
> translations. Where should I publicize the need for contributors? any
> idea?
>
> (I'm having a lot of problems finding a second native speaker to
> review the, currently, two docs I've done)
>
> V.
Greetings,
I am quite happy to see good wills are emerging again to translate docs
into french.
As far as I can tell, the previous waste of energies we had on this
project were due to lack of organisation/concertation. Hopefully we can
try to get things up and working this time. So that, rather than people
asking and nothing going on, we get a growing community of .fr translators.
Cheers,
Vincent Deffontaines
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Re: french translation
Posted by Vinko Vrsalovic <vi...@gmail.com>.
On 6/10/07, Vincent Bray <no...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Essentially translations must be reviewed by another native speaker,
> so having the two of you should work out well. I don't know if the
> previous French translator(s) are still active. Another regular on
> this list is preparing an xslt stylesheet which I think transforms the
> xml for mat of the docs to a format suitable for the wiki here:
Yes, I'm building it it currently has some problems but nothing unsolvable I
should think. I guess after it produces nice looking output I'll submit it
here for XSL experts to review and improve (my work will probably suck big
time)
Another thing I've been thinking about is the reverse translation, xsl won't
cut it... I'm thinking about leaving enough information in the wiki output
for it to be xml-able again with a perl script or something. Ideas?
http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/Translations
>
> I believe the idea is to use the wiki for collaborative translation
> before submitting pages to be committed.
Yes, that's the idea.
Also it should lower the barrier of entry for people to contribute to
translations. Where should I publicize the need for contributors? any idea?
(I'm having a lot of problems finding a second native speaker to review the,
currently, two docs I've done)
V.
Re: french translation
Posted by Lucien GENTIS <lu...@lorraine.iufm.fr>.
Vincent Bray a écrit :
> On 10/06/07, Lucien GENTIS <lu...@lorraine.iufm.fr> wrote:
>> PS: some pages were however tranlated in french; could
>> someone tell us who made this job ?
>> Is he/she still contributing ?
>
> See the docs-project page:
>
> http://httpd.apache.org/docs-project/
not found any info about french translation in this page,
except error messages
>
> including the guidelines on translating the docs, here:
>
> http://httpd.apache.org/docs-project/translations.html
>
> Essentially translations must be reviewed by another native speaker,
> so having the two of you should work out well. I don't know if the
> previous French translator(s) are still active. Another regular on
> this list is preparing an xslt stylesheet which I think transforms the
> xml for mat of the docs to a format suitable for the wiki here:
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/Translations
>
> I believe the idea is to use the wiki for collaborative translation
> before submitting pages to be committed.
>
Thanks for info
Lucien
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Re: french translation
Posted by Vincent Bray <no...@gmail.com>.
On 10/06/07, Lucien GENTIS <lu...@lorraine.iufm.fr> wrote:
> PS: some pages were however tranlated in french; could
> someone tell us who made this job ?
> Is he/she still contributing ?
See the docs-project page:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs-project/
including the guidelines on translating the docs, here:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs-project/translations.html
Essentially translations must be reviewed by another native speaker,
so having the two of you should work out well. I don't know if the
previous French translator(s) are still active. Another regular on
this list is preparing an xslt stylesheet which I think transforms the
xml for mat of the docs to a format suitable for the wiki here:
http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/Translations
I believe the idea is to use the wiki for collaborative translation
before submitting pages to be committed.
--
noodl
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Re: french translation
Posted by Lucien GENTIS <lu...@lorraine.iufm.fr>.
Cidrolin a écrit :
> Hello,
>
> my name is Philippe Lambert, I work as system manager in a Federal Public Scientific institution in Belgium.
>
> I have been monitoring this list for some time, with the same purpose as you. So far I haven't spotted any post related to the French translation.
>
> I, too, would like to get in touch with whoever might coordinate that project task, as I might be able to contribute.
>
> Otherwise, may I suggest that we coordinate ourselves ?
>
> Regards,
> Philippe
>
>
>
> ----- Message d'origine -----
> De: Lucien GENTIS <lu...@lorraine.iufm.fr>
> Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 18:26:36 +0200
> Sujet: french translationry
> À: docs@httpd.apache.org
>
>
>> Hi to all,
>>
>> New to the list, I present myself:
>> my name is Lucien GENTIS and I work in
>> the "IUFM de Lorraine" in Nancy (France)
>> as Informatic Assistant Engineer
>>
>> I noticed that some pages of Apache doc were notry
>> translated in french, so I would like to contribute to
>> this translation.
>> In that purpose, could someone introduce me to the
>> person(s) who are responsible of french translation,
>> or simply explain whereby I have to begin the job.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Lucien
>>
>>
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Hi, Philippe,
Maybe we could coordinate "en français" :-))
I just began yesterday to prepare my translate environment,
with subversion installation, download english doc, and shall
go one next days, testing translation process.
As I saw yet, work consists of XML files translation, though
I didn't understand where was separation between different
versions (1.3, 2.0 and 2.2) of the doc.
So I begin this work next days, and I then return to you.
PS: some pages were however tranlated in french; could
someone tell us who made this job ?
Is he/she still contributing ?
Lucien
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Re: french translation
Posted by Cidrolin <ci...@cidrolin.net>.
Hello,
my name is Philippe Lambert, I work as system manager in a Federal Public Scientific institution in Belgium.
I have been monitoring this list for some time, with the same purpose as you. So far I haven't spotted any post related to the French translation.
I, too, would like to get in touch with whoever might coordinate that project task, as I might be able to contribute.
Otherwise, may I suggest that we coordinate ourselves ?
Regards,
Philippe
----- Message d'origine -----
De: Lucien GENTIS <lu...@lorraine.iufm.fr>
Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 18:26:36 +0200
Sujet: french translation
À: docs@httpd.apache.org
>Hi to all,
>
>New to the list, I present myself:
>my name is Lucien GENTIS and I work in
>the "IUFM de Lorraine" in Nancy (France)
>as Informatic Assistant Engineer
>
>I noticed that some pages of Apache doc were not
>translated in french, so I would like to contribute to
>this translation.
>In that purpose, could someone introduce me to the
>person(s) who are responsible of french translation,
>or simply explain whereby I have to begin the job.
>
>Cheers
>
>Lucien
>
>
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