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[DISCUSS] EOL 2.8 or another 2.8.x release?

The last 2.8 release (2.8.4) was made in the last May, more than a year
ago. https://hadoop.apache.org/old/releases.html

How do folks feel about the fate of branch-2.8? During the last community
meetup in June, it sounds like most users are still on 2.8 or even 2.7, so
I don't think we want to abandon 2.8 just yet.

I would personally want to urge folks to move up to 3.x, so I can stop
cherrypicking stuff all the way down into 2.8. But it's not up to me along
to decide :)

How do people feel about having another 2.8 release or two? I am not saying
I want to drive it, but I want to raise the awareness that folks are still
on 2.8 and there's not been an update for over a year.

Thoughts?

Re: [DISCUSS] EOL 2.8 or another 2.8.x release?

Posted by Jeff Hubbs <jh...@att.net>.

I've never understood the fixation of staying on 2.x versions of Hadoop. 
The Apache Group folks who attend to Hadoop - there are only so many of 
them and their time and attention have to be spread among both new 
development and bug fixes in both branches. At some point, any effort 
directed toward 2.x at all comes at the detriment of effort directed 
toward 3.x. I started working with Hadoop in spring of 2018 and at that 
point, it seemed that irrespective of where Cloudera and Hortonworks 
were with their products - which I wasn't going to be using anyway - the 
two branches functioned differently enough and 3.x was far enough along 
in its lifetime that I would be far better off if I skipped right past 2.x.

Another factor in this decision was that past experience with Tomcat 
(another Apache Group effort) demonstrated that their developers didn't 
have much patience with folks who were working with old versions of 
Tomcat; they'd even backed out of one minor branch altogether and would 
actually stand down from helping you with your problems with it if 
that's what you were insisting on using.

On 7/25/19 9:07 AM, Wei-Chiu Chuang wrote:
> My bad -- Didn't realize I was looking at the old Hadoop page.
> Here's the correct list of releases. 
> https://hadoop.apache.org/releases.html
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 12:49 AM ??????(Duo Zhang) <palomino219@gmail.com 
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     IIRC we have a 2.8.5 release?
>
>     On the download page:
>
>     2.8.5 2018 Sep 15
>
>     Wei-Chiu Chuang <weichiu@apache.org <ma...@apache.org>>
>     ???2019???7???25????????? ??????9:39?????????
>
>     > The last 2.8 release (2.8.4) was made in the last May, more than
>     a year
>     > ago. https://hadoop.apache.org/old/releases.html
>     >
>     > How do folks feel about the fate of branch-2.8? During the last
>     community
>     > meetup in June, it sounds like most users are still on 2.8 or
>     even 2.7, so
>     > I don't think we want to abandon 2.8 just yet.
>     >
>     > I would personally want to urge folks to move up to 3.x, so I
>     can stop
>     > cherrypicking stuff all the way down into 2.8. But it's not up
>     to me along
>     > to decide :)
>     >
>     > How do people feel about having another 2.8 release or two? I am
>     not saying
>     > I want to drive it, but I want to raise the awareness that folks
>     are still
>     > on 2.8 and there's not been an update for over a year.
>     >
>     > Thoughts?
>     >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] EOL 2.8 or another 2.8.x release?

Posted by 俊平堵 <ju...@apache.org>.

+1 for 1 more release in 2.8.x. However, it sounds too early to declare 2.8
is EoL. I would prefer to discuss this after seeing most people are
migrated to 2.9 or 3.x.

Thanks,

Junping

Akira Ajisaka <aa...@apache.org> 于2019年7月26日周五 下午12:03写道：

> I'm +1 for 1 more release in 2.8.x and declare that 2.8 is EoL.
>
> > would be even happier if we could move people to 2.9.x
> Agreed.
>
> -Akira
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 10:59 PM Steve Loughran
> <st...@cloudera.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > I'm in favour of 1 more release (it fixes the off-by 1 bug in
> > S3AInputStream HADOOP-16109), but would be even happier if we could move
> > people to 2.9.x
> >
> > maybe do a 2.9.x release and declare that 2.8 is EOL?
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 2:08 PM Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > My bad -- Didn't realize I was looking at the old Hadoop page.
> > > Here's the correct list of releases.
> > > https://hadoop.apache.org/releases.html
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 12:49 AM 张铎(Duo Zhang) <pa...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > IIRC we have a 2.8.5 release?
> > > >
> > > > On the download page:
> > > >
> > > > 2.8.5 2018 Sep 15
> > > >
> > > > Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org> 于2019年7月25日周四 上午9:39写道：
> > > >
> > > > > The last 2.8 release (2.8.4) was made in the last May, more than a
> year
> > > > > ago. https://hadoop.apache.org/old/releases.html
> > > > >
> > > > > How do folks feel about the fate of branch-2.8? During the last
> > > community
> > > > > meetup in June, it sounds like most users are still on 2.8 or even
> 2.7,
> > > > so
> > > > > I don't think we want to abandon 2.8 just yet.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would personally want to urge folks to move up to 3.x, so I can
> stop
> > > > > cherrypicking stuff all the way down into 2.8. But it's not up to
> me
> > > > along
> > > > > to decide :)
> > > > >
> > > > > How do people feel about having another 2.8 release or two? I am
> not
> > > > saying
> > > > > I want to drive it, but I want to raise the awareness that folks
> are
> > > > still
> > > > > on 2.8 and there's not been an update for over a year.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] EOL 2.8 or another 2.8.x release?

Posted by 俊平堵 <ju...@apache.org>.

+1 for 1 more release in 2.8.x. However, it sounds too early to declare 2.8
is EoL. I would prefer to discuss this after seeing most people are
migrated to 2.9 or 3.x.

Thanks,

Junping

Akira Ajisaka <aa...@apache.org> 于2019年7月26日周五 下午12:03写道：

> I'm +1 for 1 more release in 2.8.x and declare that 2.8 is EoL.
>
> > would be even happier if we could move people to 2.9.x
> Agreed.
>
> -Akira
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 10:59 PM Steve Loughran
> <st...@cloudera.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > I'm in favour of 1 more release (it fixes the off-by 1 bug in
> > S3AInputStream HADOOP-16109), but would be even happier if we could move
> > people to 2.9.x
> >
> > maybe do a 2.9.x release and declare that 2.8 is EOL?
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 2:08 PM Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > My bad -- Didn't realize I was looking at the old Hadoop page.
> > > Here's the correct list of releases.
> > > https://hadoop.apache.org/releases.html
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 12:49 AM 张铎(Duo Zhang) <pa...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > IIRC we have a 2.8.5 release?
> > > >
> > > > On the download page:
> > > >
> > > > 2.8.5 2018 Sep 15
> > > >
> > > > Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org> 于2019年7月25日周四 上午9:39写道：
> > > >
> > > > > The last 2.8 release (2.8.4) was made in the last May, more than a
> year
> > > > > ago. https://hadoop.apache.org/old/releases.html
> > > > >
> > > > > How do folks feel about the fate of branch-2.8? During the last
> > > community
> > > > > meetup in June, it sounds like most users are still on 2.8 or even
> 2.7,
> > > > so
> > > > > I don't think we want to abandon 2.8 just yet.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would personally want to urge folks to move up to 3.x, so I can
> stop
> > > > > cherrypicking stuff all the way down into 2.8. But it's not up to
> me
> > > > along
> > > > > to decide :)
> > > > >
> > > > > How do people feel about having another 2.8 release or two? I am
> not
> > > > saying
> > > > > I want to drive it, but I want to raise the awareness that folks
> are
> > > > still
> > > > > on 2.8 and there's not been an update for over a year.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] EOL 2.8 or another 2.8.x release?

Posted by 俊平堵 <ju...@apache.org>.

+1 for 1 more release in 2.8.x. However, it sounds too early to declare 2.8
is EoL. I would prefer to discuss this after seeing most people are
migrated to 2.9 or 3.x.

Thanks,

Junping

Akira Ajisaka <aa...@apache.org> 于2019年7月26日周五 下午12:03写道：

> I'm +1 for 1 more release in 2.8.x and declare that 2.8 is EoL.
>
> > would be even happier if we could move people to 2.9.x
> Agreed.
>
> -Akira
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 10:59 PM Steve Loughran
> <st...@cloudera.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > I'm in favour of 1 more release (it fixes the off-by 1 bug in
> > S3AInputStream HADOOP-16109), but would be even happier if we could move
> > people to 2.9.x
> >
> > maybe do a 2.9.x release and declare that 2.8 is EOL?
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 2:08 PM Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > My bad -- Didn't realize I was looking at the old Hadoop page.
> > > Here's the correct list of releases.
> > > https://hadoop.apache.org/releases.html
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 12:49 AM 张铎(Duo Zhang) <pa...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > IIRC we have a 2.8.5 release?
> > > >
> > > > On the download page:
> > > >
> > > > 2.8.5 2018 Sep 15
> > > >
> > > > Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org> 于2019年7月25日周四 上午9:39写道：
> > > >
> > > > > The last 2.8 release (2.8.4) was made in the last May, more than a
> year
> > > > > ago. https://hadoop.apache.org/old/releases.html
> > > > >
> > > > > How do folks feel about the fate of branch-2.8? During the last
> > > community
> > > > > meetup in June, it sounds like most users are still on 2.8 or even
> 2.7,
> > > > so
> > > > > I don't think we want to abandon 2.8 just yet.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would personally want to urge folks to move up to 3.x, so I can
> stop
> > > > > cherrypicking stuff all the way down into 2.8. But it's not up to
> me
> > > > along
> > > > > to decide :)
> > > > >
> > > > > How do people feel about having another 2.8 release or two? I am
> not
> > > > saying
> > > > > I want to drive it, but I want to raise the awareness that folks
> are
> > > > still
> > > > > on 2.8 and there's not been an update for over a year.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] EOL 2.8 or another 2.8.x release?

Posted by 俊平堵 <ju...@apache.org>.

+1 for 1 more release in 2.8.x. However, it sounds too early to declare 2.8
is EoL. I would prefer to discuss this after seeing most people are
migrated to 2.9 or 3.x.

Thanks,

Junping

Akira Ajisaka <aa...@apache.org> 于2019年7月26日周五 下午12:03写道：

> I'm +1 for 1 more release in 2.8.x and declare that 2.8 is EoL.
>
> > would be even happier if we could move people to 2.9.x
> Agreed.
>
> -Akira
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 10:59 PM Steve Loughran
> <st...@cloudera.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > I'm in favour of 1 more release (it fixes the off-by 1 bug in
> > S3AInputStream HADOOP-16109), but would be even happier if we could move
> > people to 2.9.x
> >
> > maybe do a 2.9.x release and declare that 2.8 is EOL?
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 2:08 PM Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > My bad -- Didn't realize I was looking at the old Hadoop page.
> > > Here's the correct list of releases.
> > > https://hadoop.apache.org/releases.html
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 12:49 AM 张铎(Duo Zhang) <pa...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > IIRC we have a 2.8.5 release?
> > > >
> > > > On the download page:
> > > >
> > > > 2.8.5 2018 Sep 15
> > > >
> > > > Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org> 于2019年7月25日周四 上午9:39写道：
> > > >
> > > > > The last 2.8 release (2.8.4) was made in the last May, more than a
> year
> > > > > ago. https://hadoop.apache.org/old/releases.html
> > > > >
> > > > > How do folks feel about the fate of branch-2.8? During the last
> > > community
> > > > > meetup in June, it sounds like most users are still on 2.8 or even
> 2.7,
> > > > so
> > > > > I don't think we want to abandon 2.8 just yet.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would personally want to urge folks to move up to 3.x, so I can
> stop
> > > > > cherrypicking stuff all the way down into 2.8. But it's not up to
> me
> > > > along
> > > > > to decide :)
> > > > >
> > > > > How do people feel about having another 2.8 release or two? I am
> not
> > > > saying
> > > > > I want to drive it, but I want to raise the awareness that folks
> are
> > > > still
> > > > > on 2.8 and there's not been an update for over a year.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] EOL 2.8 or another 2.8.x release?

Posted by 俊平堵 <ju...@apache.org>.

+1 for 1 more release in 2.8.x. However, it sounds too early to declare 2.8
is EoL. I would prefer to discuss this after seeing most people are
migrated to 2.9 or 3.x.

Thanks,

Junping

Akira Ajisaka <aa...@apache.org> 于2019年7月26日周五 下午12:03写道：

> I'm +1 for 1 more release in 2.8.x and declare that 2.8 is EoL.
>
> > would be even happier if we could move people to 2.9.x
> Agreed.
>
> -Akira
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 10:59 PM Steve Loughran
> <st...@cloudera.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > I'm in favour of 1 more release (it fixes the off-by 1 bug in
> > S3AInputStream HADOOP-16109), but would be even happier if we could move
> > people to 2.9.x
> >
> > maybe do a 2.9.x release and declare that 2.8 is EOL?
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 2:08 PM Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > My bad -- Didn't realize I was looking at the old Hadoop page.
> > > Here's the correct list of releases.
> > > https://hadoop.apache.org/releases.html
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 12:49 AM 张铎(Duo Zhang) <pa...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > IIRC we have a 2.8.5 release?
> > > >
> > > > On the download page:
> > > >
> > > > 2.8.5 2018 Sep 15
> > > >
> > > > Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org> 于2019年7月25日周四 上午9:39写道：
> > > >
> > > > > The last 2.8 release (2.8.4) was made in the last May, more than a
> year
> > > > > ago. https://hadoop.apache.org/old/releases.html
> > > > >
> > > > > How do folks feel about the fate of branch-2.8? During the last
> > > community
> > > > > meetup in June, it sounds like most users are still on 2.8 or even
> 2.7,
> > > > so
> > > > > I don't think we want to abandon 2.8 just yet.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would personally want to urge folks to move up to 3.x, so I can
> stop
> > > > > cherrypicking stuff all the way down into 2.8. But it's not up to
> me
> > > > along
> > > > > to decide :)
> > > > >
> > > > > How do people feel about having another 2.8 release or two? I am
> not
> > > > saying
> > > > > I want to drive it, but I want to raise the awareness that folks
> are
> > > > still
> > > > > on 2.8 and there's not been an update for over a year.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] EOL 2.8 or another 2.8.x release?

Posted by Akira Ajisaka <aa...@apache.org>.

I'm +1 for 1 more release in 2.8.x and declare that 2.8 is EoL.

> would be even happier if we could move people to 2.9.x
Agreed.

-Akira

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 10:59 PM Steve Loughran
<st...@cloudera.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> I'm in favour of 1 more release (it fixes the off-by 1 bug in
> S3AInputStream HADOOP-16109), but would be even happier if we could move
> people to 2.9.x
>
> maybe do a 2.9.x release and declare that 2.8 is EOL?
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 2:08 PM Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > My bad -- Didn't realize I was looking at the old Hadoop page.
> > Here's the correct list of releases.
> > https://hadoop.apache.org/releases.html
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 12:49 AM 张铎(Duo Zhang) <pa...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > IIRC we have a 2.8.5 release?
> > >
> > > On the download page:
> > >
> > > 2.8.5 2018 Sep 15
> > >
> > > Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org> 于2019年7月25日周四 上午9:39写道：
> > >
> > > > The last 2.8 release (2.8.4) was made in the last May, more than a year
> > > > ago. https://hadoop.apache.org/old/releases.html
> > > >
> > > > How do folks feel about the fate of branch-2.8? During the last
> > community
> > > > meetup in June, it sounds like most users are still on 2.8 or even 2.7,
> > > so
> > > > I don't think we want to abandon 2.8 just yet.
> > > >
> > > > I would personally want to urge folks to move up to 3.x, so I can stop
> > > > cherrypicking stuff all the way down into 2.8. But it's not up to me
> > > along
> > > > to decide :)
> > > >
> > > > How do people feel about having another 2.8 release or two? I am not
> > > saying
> > > > I want to drive it, but I want to raise the awareness that folks are
> > > still
> > > > on 2.8 and there's not been an update for over a year.
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts?
> > > >
> > >
> >

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Re: [DISCUSS] EOL 2.8 or another 2.8.x release?

Posted by Akira Ajisaka <aa...@apache.org>.

I'm +1 for 1 more release in 2.8.x and declare that 2.8 is EoL.

> would be even happier if we could move people to 2.9.x
Agreed.

-Akira

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 10:59 PM Steve Loughran
<st...@cloudera.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> I'm in favour of 1 more release (it fixes the off-by 1 bug in
> S3AInputStream HADOOP-16109), but would be even happier if we could move
> people to 2.9.x
>
> maybe do a 2.9.x release and declare that 2.8 is EOL?
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 2:08 PM Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > My bad -- Didn't realize I was looking at the old Hadoop page.
> > Here's the correct list of releases.
> > https://hadoop.apache.org/releases.html
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 12:49 AM 张铎(Duo Zhang) <pa...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > IIRC we have a 2.8.5 release?
> > >
> > > On the download page:
> > >
> > > 2.8.5 2018 Sep 15
> > >
> > > Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org> 于2019年7月25日周四 上午9:39写道：
> > >
> > > > The last 2.8 release (2.8.4) was made in the last May, more than a year
> > > > ago. https://hadoop.apache.org/old/releases.html
> > > >
> > > > How do folks feel about the fate of branch-2.8? During the last
> > community
> > > > meetup in June, it sounds like most users are still on 2.8 or even 2.7,
> > > so
> > > > I don't think we want to abandon 2.8 just yet.
> > > >
> > > > I would personally want to urge folks to move up to 3.x, so I can stop
> > > > cherrypicking stuff all the way down into 2.8. But it's not up to me
> > > along
> > > > to decide :)
> > > >
> > > > How do people feel about having another 2.8 release or two? I am not
> > > saying
> > > > I want to drive it, but I want to raise the awareness that folks are
> > > still
> > > > on 2.8 and there's not been an update for over a year.
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts?
> > > >
> > >
> >

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Re: [DISCUSS] EOL 2.8 or another 2.8.x release?

Posted by Akira Ajisaka <aa...@apache.org>.

I'm +1 for 1 more release in 2.8.x and declare that 2.8 is EoL.

> would be even happier if we could move people to 2.9.x
Agreed.

-Akira

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 10:59 PM Steve Loughran
<st...@cloudera.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> I'm in favour of 1 more release (it fixes the off-by 1 bug in
> S3AInputStream HADOOP-16109), but would be even happier if we could move
> people to 2.9.x
>
> maybe do a 2.9.x release and declare that 2.8 is EOL?
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 2:08 PM Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > My bad -- Didn't realize I was looking at the old Hadoop page.
> > Here's the correct list of releases.
> > https://hadoop.apache.org/releases.html
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 12:49 AM 张铎(Duo Zhang) <pa...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > IIRC we have a 2.8.5 release?
> > >
> > > On the download page:
> > >
> > > 2.8.5 2018 Sep 15
> > >
> > > Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org> 于2019年7月25日周四 上午9:39写道：
> > >
> > > > The last 2.8 release (2.8.4) was made in the last May, more than a year
> > > > ago. https://hadoop.apache.org/old/releases.html
> > > >
> > > > How do folks feel about the fate of branch-2.8? During the last
> > community
> > > > meetup in June, it sounds like most users are still on 2.8 or even 2.7,
> > > so
> > > > I don't think we want to abandon 2.8 just yet.
> > > >
> > > > I would personally want to urge folks to move up to 3.x, so I can stop
> > > > cherrypicking stuff all the way down into 2.8. But it's not up to me
> > > along
> > > > to decide :)
> > > >
> > > > How do people feel about having another 2.8 release or two? I am not
> > > saying
> > > > I want to drive it, but I want to raise the awareness that folks are
> > > still
> > > > on 2.8 and there's not been an update for over a year.
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts?
> > > >
> > >
> >

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Re: [DISCUSS] EOL 2.8 or another 2.8.x release?

Posted by Akira Ajisaka <aa...@apache.org>.

I'm +1 for 1 more release in 2.8.x and declare that 2.8 is EoL.

> would be even happier if we could move people to 2.9.x
Agreed.

-Akira

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 10:59 PM Steve Loughran
<st...@cloudera.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> I'm in favour of 1 more release (it fixes the off-by 1 bug in
> S3AInputStream HADOOP-16109), but would be even happier if we could move
> people to 2.9.x
>
> maybe do a 2.9.x release and declare that 2.8 is EOL?
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 2:08 PM Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > My bad -- Didn't realize I was looking at the old Hadoop page.
> > Here's the correct list of releases.
> > https://hadoop.apache.org/releases.html
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 12:49 AM 张铎(Duo Zhang) <pa...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > IIRC we have a 2.8.5 release?
> > >
> > > On the download page:
> > >
> > > 2.8.5 2018 Sep 15
> > >
> > > Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org> 于2019年7月25日周四 上午9:39写道：
> > >
> > > > The last 2.8 release (2.8.4) was made in the last May, more than a year
> > > > ago. https://hadoop.apache.org/old/releases.html
> > > >
> > > > How do folks feel about the fate of branch-2.8? During the last
> > community
> > > > meetup in June, it sounds like most users are still on 2.8 or even 2.7,
> > > so
> > > > I don't think we want to abandon 2.8 just yet.
> > > >
> > > > I would personally want to urge folks to move up to 3.x, so I can stop
> > > > cherrypicking stuff all the way down into 2.8. But it's not up to me
> > > along
> > > > to decide :)
> > > >
> > > > How do people feel about having another 2.8 release or two? I am not
> > > saying
> > > > I want to drive it, but I want to raise the awareness that folks are
> > > still
> > > > on 2.8 and there's not been an update for over a year.
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts?
> > > >
> > >
> >

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Re: [DISCUSS] EOL 2.8 or another 2.8.x release?

Posted by Akira Ajisaka <aa...@apache.org>.

I'm +1 for 1 more release in 2.8.x and declare that 2.8 is EoL.

> would be even happier if we could move people to 2.9.x
Agreed.

-Akira

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 10:59 PM Steve Loughran
<st...@cloudera.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> I'm in favour of 1 more release (it fixes the off-by 1 bug in
> S3AInputStream HADOOP-16109), but would be even happier if we could move
> people to 2.9.x
>
> maybe do a 2.9.x release and declare that 2.8 is EOL?
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 2:08 PM Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > My bad -- Didn't realize I was looking at the old Hadoop page.
> > Here's the correct list of releases.
> > https://hadoop.apache.org/releases.html
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 12:49 AM 张铎(Duo Zhang) <pa...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > IIRC we have a 2.8.5 release?
> > >
> > > On the download page:
> > >
> > > 2.8.5 2018 Sep 15
> > >
> > > Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org> 于2019年7月25日周四 上午9:39写道：
> > >
> > > > The last 2.8 release (2.8.4) was made in the last May, more than a year
> > > > ago. https://hadoop.apache.org/old/releases.html
> > > >
> > > > How do folks feel about the fate of branch-2.8? During the last
> > community
> > > > meetup in June, it sounds like most users are still on 2.8 or even 2.7,
> > > so
> > > > I don't think we want to abandon 2.8 just yet.
> > > >
> > > > I would personally want to urge folks to move up to 3.x, so I can stop
> > > > cherrypicking stuff all the way down into 2.8. But it's not up to me
> > > along
> > > > to decide :)
> > > >
> > > > How do people feel about having another 2.8 release or two? I am not
> > > saying
> > > > I want to drive it, but I want to raise the awareness that folks are
> > > still
> > > > on 2.8 and there's not been an update for over a year.
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts?
> > > >
> > >
> >

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Re: [DISCUSS] EOL 2.8 or another 2.8.x release?

Posted by Steve Loughran <st...@cloudera.com.INVALID>.

I'm in favour of 1 more release (it fixes the off-by 1 bug in
S3AInputStream HADOOP-16109), but would be even happier if we could move
people to 2.9.x

maybe do a 2.9.x release and declare that 2.8 is EOL?


On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 2:08 PM Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org> wrote:

> My bad -- Didn't realize I was looking at the old Hadoop page.
> Here's the correct list of releases.
> https://hadoop.apache.org/releases.html
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 12:49 AM 张铎(Duo Zhang) <pa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > IIRC we have a 2.8.5 release?
> >
> > On the download page:
> >
> > 2.8.5 2018 Sep 15
> >
> > Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org> 于2019年7月25日周四 上午9:39写道：
> >
> > > The last 2.8 release (2.8.4) was made in the last May, more than a year
> > > ago. https://hadoop.apache.org/old/releases.html
> > >
> > > How do folks feel about the fate of branch-2.8? During the last
> community
> > > meetup in June, it sounds like most users are still on 2.8 or even 2.7,
> > so
> > > I don't think we want to abandon 2.8 just yet.
> > >
> > > I would personally want to urge folks to move up to 3.x, so I can stop
> > > cherrypicking stuff all the way down into 2.8. But it's not up to me
> > along
> > > to decide :)
> > >
> > > How do people feel about having another 2.8 release or two? I am not
> > saying
> > > I want to drive it, but I want to raise the awareness that folks are
> > still
> > > on 2.8 and there's not been an update for over a year.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] EOL 2.8 or another 2.8.x release?

Posted by Steve Loughran <st...@cloudera.com.INVALID>.

I'm in favour of 1 more release (it fixes the off-by 1 bug in
S3AInputStream HADOOP-16109), but would be even happier if we could move
people to 2.9.x

maybe do a 2.9.x release and declare that 2.8 is EOL?


On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 2:08 PM Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org> wrote:

> My bad -- Didn't realize I was looking at the old Hadoop page.
> Here's the correct list of releases.
> https://hadoop.apache.org/releases.html
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 12:49 AM 张铎(Duo Zhang) <pa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > IIRC we have a 2.8.5 release?
> >
> > On the download page:
> >
> > 2.8.5 2018 Sep 15
> >
> > Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org> 于2019年7月25日周四 上午9:39写道：
> >
> > > The last 2.8 release (2.8.4) was made in the last May, more than a year
> > > ago. https://hadoop.apache.org/old/releases.html
> > >
> > > How do folks feel about the fate of branch-2.8? During the last
> community
> > > meetup in June, it sounds like most users are still on 2.8 or even 2.7,
> > so
> > > I don't think we want to abandon 2.8 just yet.
> > >
> > > I would personally want to urge folks to move up to 3.x, so I can stop
> > > cherrypicking stuff all the way down into 2.8. But it's not up to me
> > along
> > > to decide :)
> > >
> > > How do people feel about having another 2.8 release or two? I am not
> > saying
> > > I want to drive it, but I want to raise the awareness that folks are
> > still
> > > on 2.8 and there's not been an update for over a year.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] EOL 2.8 or another 2.8.x release?

Posted by Steve Loughran <st...@cloudera.com.INVALID>.

I'm in favour of 1 more release (it fixes the off-by 1 bug in
S3AInputStream HADOOP-16109), but would be even happier if we could move
people to 2.9.x

maybe do a 2.9.x release and declare that 2.8 is EOL?


On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 2:08 PM Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org> wrote:

> My bad -- Didn't realize I was looking at the old Hadoop page.
> Here's the correct list of releases.
> https://hadoop.apache.org/releases.html
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 12:49 AM 张铎(Duo Zhang) <pa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > IIRC we have a 2.8.5 release?
> >
> > On the download page:
> >
> > 2.8.5 2018 Sep 15
> >
> > Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org> 于2019年7月25日周四 上午9:39写道：
> >
> > > The last 2.8 release (2.8.4) was made in the last May, more than a year
> > > ago. https://hadoop.apache.org/old/releases.html
> > >
> > > How do folks feel about the fate of branch-2.8? During the last
> community
> > > meetup in June, it sounds like most users are still on 2.8 or even 2.7,
> > so
> > > I don't think we want to abandon 2.8 just yet.
> > >
> > > I would personally want to urge folks to move up to 3.x, so I can stop
> > > cherrypicking stuff all the way down into 2.8. But it's not up to me
> > along
> > > to decide :)
> > >
> > > How do people feel about having another 2.8 release or two? I am not
> > saying
> > > I want to drive it, but I want to raise the awareness that folks are
> > still
> > > on 2.8 and there's not been an update for over a year.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] EOL 2.8 or another 2.8.x release?

Posted by Steve Loughran <st...@cloudera.com.INVALID>.

I'm in favour of 1 more release (it fixes the off-by 1 bug in
S3AInputStream HADOOP-16109), but would be even happier if we could move
people to 2.9.x

maybe do a 2.9.x release and declare that 2.8 is EOL?


On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 2:08 PM Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org> wrote:

> My bad -- Didn't realize I was looking at the old Hadoop page.
> Here's the correct list of releases.
> https://hadoop.apache.org/releases.html
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 12:49 AM 张铎(Duo Zhang) <pa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > IIRC we have a 2.8.5 release?
> >
> > On the download page:
> >
> > 2.8.5 2018 Sep 15
> >
> > Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org> 于2019年7月25日周四 上午9:39写道：
> >
> > > The last 2.8 release (2.8.4) was made in the last May, more than a year
> > > ago. https://hadoop.apache.org/old/releases.html
> > >
> > > How do folks feel about the fate of branch-2.8? During the last
> community
> > > meetup in June, it sounds like most users are still on 2.8 or even 2.7,
> > so
> > > I don't think we want to abandon 2.8 just yet.
> > >
> > > I would personally want to urge folks to move up to 3.x, so I can stop
> > > cherrypicking stuff all the way down into 2.8. But it's not up to me
> > along
> > > to decide :)
> > >
> > > How do people feel about having another 2.8 release or two? I am not
> > saying
> > > I want to drive it, but I want to raise the awareness that folks are
> > still
> > > on 2.8 and there's not been an update for over a year.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] EOL 2.8 or another 2.8.x release?

Posted by Steve Loughran <st...@cloudera.com.INVALID>.

I'm in favour of 1 more release (it fixes the off-by 1 bug in
S3AInputStream HADOOP-16109), but would be even happier if we could move
people to 2.9.x

maybe do a 2.9.x release and declare that 2.8 is EOL?


On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 2:08 PM Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org> wrote:

> My bad -- Didn't realize I was looking at the old Hadoop page.
> Here's the correct list of releases.
> https://hadoop.apache.org/releases.html
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 12:49 AM 张铎(Duo Zhang) <pa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > IIRC we have a 2.8.5 release?
> >
> > On the download page:
> >
> > 2.8.5 2018 Sep 15
> >
> > Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org> 于2019年7月25日周四 上午9:39写道：
> >
> > > The last 2.8 release (2.8.4) was made in the last May, more than a year
> > > ago. https://hadoop.apache.org/old/releases.html
> > >
> > > How do folks feel about the fate of branch-2.8? During the last
> community
> > > meetup in June, it sounds like most users are still on 2.8 or even 2.7,
> > so
> > > I don't think we want to abandon 2.8 just yet.
> > >
> > > I would personally want to urge folks to move up to 3.x, so I can stop
> > > cherrypicking stuff all the way down into 2.8. But it's not up to me
> > along
> > > to decide :)
> > >
> > > How do people feel about having another 2.8 release or two? I am not
> > saying
> > > I want to drive it, but I want to raise the awareness that folks are
> > still
> > > on 2.8 and there's not been an update for over a year.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] EOL 2.8 or another 2.8.x release?

Posted by Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org>.

My bad -- Didn't realize I was looking at the old Hadoop page.
Here's the correct list of releases. https://hadoop.apache.org/releases.html

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 12:49 AM 张铎(Duo Zhang) <pa...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> IIRC we have a 2.8.5 release?
>
> On the download page:
>
> 2.8.5 2018 Sep 15
>
> Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org> 于2019年7月25日周四 上午9:39写道：
>
> > The last 2.8 release (2.8.4) was made in the last May, more than a year
> > ago. https://hadoop.apache.org/old/releases.html
> >
> > How do folks feel about the fate of branch-2.8? During the last community
> > meetup in June, it sounds like most users are still on 2.8 or even 2.7,
> so
> > I don't think we want to abandon 2.8 just yet.
> >
> > I would personally want to urge folks to move up to 3.x, so I can stop
> > cherrypicking stuff all the way down into 2.8. But it's not up to me
> along
> > to decide :)
> >
> > How do people feel about having another 2.8 release or two? I am not
> saying
> > I want to drive it, but I want to raise the awareness that folks are
> still
> > on 2.8 and there's not been an update for over a year.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] EOL 2.8 or another 2.8.x release?

Posted by Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org>.

My bad -- Didn't realize I was looking at the old Hadoop page.
Here's the correct list of releases. https://hadoop.apache.org/releases.html

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 12:49 AM 张铎(Duo Zhang) <pa...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> IIRC we have a 2.8.5 release?
>
> On the download page:
>
> 2.8.5 2018 Sep 15
>
> Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org> 于2019年7月25日周四 上午9:39写道：
>
> > The last 2.8 release (2.8.4) was made in the last May, more than a year
> > ago. https://hadoop.apache.org/old/releases.html
> >
> > How do folks feel about the fate of branch-2.8? During the last community
> > meetup in June, it sounds like most users are still on 2.8 or even 2.7,
> so
> > I don't think we want to abandon 2.8 just yet.
> >
> > I would personally want to urge folks to move up to 3.x, so I can stop
> > cherrypicking stuff all the way down into 2.8. But it's not up to me
> along
> > to decide :)
> >
> > How do people feel about having another 2.8 release or two? I am not
> saying
> > I want to drive it, but I want to raise the awareness that folks are
> still
> > on 2.8 and there's not been an update for over a year.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] EOL 2.8 or another 2.8.x release?

Posted by Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org>.

My bad -- Didn't realize I was looking at the old Hadoop page.
Here's the correct list of releases. https://hadoop.apache.org/releases.html

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 12:49 AM 张铎(Duo Zhang) <pa...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> IIRC we have a 2.8.5 release?
>
> On the download page:
>
> 2.8.5 2018 Sep 15
>
> Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org> 于2019年7月25日周四 上午9:39写道：
>
> > The last 2.8 release (2.8.4) was made in the last May, more than a year
> > ago. https://hadoop.apache.org/old/releases.html
> >
> > How do folks feel about the fate of branch-2.8? During the last community
> > meetup in June, it sounds like most users are still on 2.8 or even 2.7,
> so
> > I don't think we want to abandon 2.8 just yet.
> >
> > I would personally want to urge folks to move up to 3.x, so I can stop
> > cherrypicking stuff all the way down into 2.8. But it's not up to me
> along
> > to decide :)
> >
> > How do people feel about having another 2.8 release or two? I am not
> saying
> > I want to drive it, but I want to raise the awareness that folks are
> still
> > on 2.8 and there's not been an update for over a year.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] EOL 2.8 or another 2.8.x release?

Posted by Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org>.

My bad -- Didn't realize I was looking at the old Hadoop page.
Here's the correct list of releases. https://hadoop.apache.org/releases.html

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 12:49 AM 张铎(Duo Zhang) <pa...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> IIRC we have a 2.8.5 release?
>
> On the download page:
>
> 2.8.5 2018 Sep 15
>
> Wei-Chiu Chuang <we...@apache.org> 于2019年7月25日周四 上午9:39写道：
>
> > The last 2.8 release (2.8.4) was made in the last May, more than a year
> > ago. https://hadoop.apache.org/old/releases.html
> >
> > How do folks feel about the fate of branch-2.8? During the last community
> > meetup in June, it sounds like most users are still on 2.8 or even 2.7,
> so
> > I don't think we want to abandon 2.8 just yet.
> >
> > I would personally want to urge folks to move up to 3.x, so I can stop
> > cherrypicking stuff all the way down into 2.8. But it's not up to me
> along
> > to decide :)
> >
> > How do people feel about having another 2.8 release or two? I am not
> saying
> > I want to drive it, but I want to raise the awareness that folks are
> still
> > on 2.8 and there's not been an update for over a year.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
>