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Posted to user@openmeetings.apache.org by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> on 2018/02/01 04:33:47 UTC

Re: Chat Panel - once again... sorry

Hello Dan, Peter,

sorry for delay in response, too much personal stuff to do :(
I can totally remove this "open on hover" effect (which might be annoying)
if there will be no objections :)

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 8:39 PM, Daniel Ascher <aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com
> wrote:

> Thanks for the input Peter!
>
> Dan
>
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 3:05 AM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>> if it is splitted somehow this could be done via css.
>>
>> #cPhover{
>>         pointer-events: none !important;
>> }
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>>
>> Am 30.01.2018 um 18:51 schrieb Daniel Ascher:
>>
>> Thanks for letting me know about the chat color change. I would prefer if
>> chat doesn't open automatically when one hovers, if that is possible.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 9:42 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>
>>> chat bar changing its color from blue to sort of yellow on new message
>>> (if chat was closed)
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 12:08 AM, Daniel Ascher <
>>> aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree with Peter that the "hover" on the chat is a problem. The
>>>> reason it's a problem is that it is so easy to accidentally open the chat
>>>> up when you don't want it open.
>>>> Is there a way to indicate that there is a new chat message (maybe just
>>>> change the color of the arrow) or a flashing dot?
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Peter,
>>>>> The only place fontFace is being set is general.css
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe you can set fontface for main wb <div> and it will do the
>>>>> trick
>>>>>
>>>>> If not, wb-text.js need to be changed .....
>>>>>
>>>>> WBR, Maxim
>>>>> (from mobile, sorry for the typos)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018, 23:07 Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't find a way to use custom.css by now, because this part is
>>>>>> within a canvas container. I could change the font be editing fabric.js
>>>>>> wb.js and wb.min.js  in red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-
>>>>>> INF/classes/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb (thanks for the hint
>>>>>> to fabric.js). I think to change one of them would be enough, but I didn't
>>>>>> want to search the right one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If "Times New Roman" is important somehow I could do this changes
>>>>>> within my buildscript.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will check jira tomorrow morning... kids are waiting... ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings and thanks so far Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 29.01.2018 um 16:00 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Peter,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> According to the docs: http://fabricjs.com/docs
>>>>>> /fabric.Text.html#fontFamily
>>>>>> Default font Family is Times New Roman
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It might be inherited from https://github.com/apache
>>>>>> /openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/c
>>>>>> ss/general.css#L22
>>>>>> And can be customized via custom.css
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you check this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1821
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 6:13 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think so... ;-) the first one is the default (12) now... There is
>>>>>>> written "default" btw... ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't think that my screen is that oversized (24'' 1920x1080), but
>>>>>>> 12 is unreadable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 29.01.2018 um 11:52 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> text: 50  ==> font-size == 50pt (can be checked here
>>>>>>> https://www-archive.mozilla.org/newlayout/testcases/css
>>>>>>> /sec526pt2.htm)
>>>>>>> Is it really what you want?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> this should be fine...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> text : 50
>>>>>>>> paint: 5 (as is)
>>>>>>>> draw line: 5 (as is)
>>>>>>>> highlighter: 20 (as is)
>>>>>>>> rectangle: 5 (as is)
>>>>>>>> ellipse: 5 (as is)
>>>>>>>> arrow: 20
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> one more thing: wb uses font with serifs, I would say one without
>>>>>>>> serifs would be better.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 26.01.2018 um 15:26 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sure, can easily be done if you will provide desired values :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 9:23 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> JIRA done... Take your time
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have one more Question: Is it possible to have different default
>>>>>>>>> values for different WB tools? Draw need 5 for line width, Arrow I would
>>>>>>>>> prefer 20 and writing 50.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter and have a nice weekend
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 26.01.2018 um 15:11 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OK, will try to implement this
>>>>>>>>> Please create JIRA, so it will go to CHANGELOG :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm less productive these days, hopefully will be able to
>>>>>>>>> implement in nearest week :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 9:09 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think it will... people here tried to use click on the little
>>>>>>>>>> symbol in the first place, but when you hover the little symbol chat bar
>>>>>>>>>> already start to toggle and the click will not be noticed by the system.
>>>>>>>>>> but the user had clicked and it should be opened, but it will close because
>>>>>>>>>> it is not docked... and sometimes this ended after a few tries in a
>>>>>>>>>> complete blue chat panel...  They asked if it is a kind of game...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I already thought about open chat by default, but maybe in some
>>>>>>>>>> scenarios it shouldn't be like that....
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am 26.01.2018 um 14:34 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Currently we have 1 area
>>>>>>>>>> It is hoverable while closed and clickable while opened :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure having 2 areas will make this feature more clear :(
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> BTW you can set "Chat is opened by default" in room options .....
>>>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 5:59 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I understand your point and I think this could work if people
>>>>>>>>>>> get familiar with it...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think to fit both cases we should divide the closed chat panel
>>>>>>>>>>> in a hover and a click part.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This should address the ones that want to click and the ones
>>>>>>>>>>> that want to use hover. And if people still get confused here and the hover
>>>>>>>>>>> area has an id than it could be turned off via css.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> #cPhover{
>>>>>>>>>>>         pointer-events: none !important;
>>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I got another little feature request, I will create a jira for
>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 26.01.2018 um 10:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Peter,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It was my idea :)))
>>>>>>>>>>> I thought it is useful:
>>>>>>>>>>> 1) you can see the message is arrived
>>>>>>>>>>> 2) you hover to check if this message is important or not
>>>>>>>>>>> 3) you can click to make it open
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The customization is not that simple
>>>>>>>>>>> I believe we should choose proper behavior :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> would appreciate ideas on how this can be improved :))
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 4:33 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I got a few more feedbacks and one criticized point was, that
>>>>>>>>>>>> hover effect of the chat panel. They expect that it works like a&a, Click
>>>>>>>>>>>> -> open and click -> close.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why does it have that hover effect? And if it need to be there
>>>>>>>>>>>> in general, how can I make it act like a&a?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings Peter
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
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Re: Chat Panel - once again... sorry

Posted by Daniel Ascher <ap...@aplustutoring.com>.
Thanks Maxim. :)

Dan

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 6:40 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Should be addressed, please check :)
>
> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 3:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> OK, I'll remove hover support then
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 3:13 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>
>>> removing it would be more straight forward and less work (I think)...
>>> But I thought maybe you want to keep your "invention"... To split it would
>>> preserve all options. Till now nobody complains about that hovering, that's
>>> why I thought it is in use without problems, except my people here...
>>>
>>> So if it is easier to remove it and nobody miss it, than remove it. If
>>> it is used by others without any issue, than split it and let it to the
>>> user what they prefer.
>>>
>>> Greetings Peter
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 01.02.2018 um 06:39 schrieb K, Amit (MIND):
>>>
>>> My vote is “Yes” for this…. I think after removing this, it make feel
>>> more stability.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com
>>> <so...@gmail.com>]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 1, 2018 10:04 AM
>>> *To:* Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>> <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: Chat Panel - once again... sorry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Dan, Peter,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> sorry for delay in response, too much personal stuff to do :(
>>>
>>> I can totally remove this "open on hover" effect (which might be
>>> annoying) if there will be no objections :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 8:39 PM, Daniel Ascher <
>>> aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the input Peter!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 3:05 AM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>
>>> if it is splitted somehow this could be done via css.
>>>
>>> #cPhover{
>>>         pointer-events: none !important;
>>> }
>>>
>>> Greetings Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 30.01.2018 um 18:51 schrieb Daniel Ascher:
>>>
>>> Thanks for letting me know about the chat color change. I would prefer
>>> if chat doesn't open automatically when one hovers, if that is possible.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 9:42 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> chat bar changing its color from blue to sort of yellow on new message
>>> (if chat was closed)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 12:08 AM, Daniel Ascher <
>>> aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree with Peter that the "hover" on the chat is a problem. The reason
>>> it's a problem is that it is so easy to accidentally open the chat up when
>>> you don't want it open.
>>>
>>> Is there a way to indicate that there is a new chat message (maybe just
>>> change the color of the arrow) or a flashing dot?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Peter,
>>>
>>> The only place fontFace is being set is general.css
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I believe you can set fontface for main wb <div> and it will do the trick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If not, wb-text.js need to be changed .....
>>>
>>> WBR, Maxim
>>> (from mobile, sorry for the typos)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018, 23:07 Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>
>>> I didn't find a way to use custom.css by now, because this part is
>>> within a canvas container. I could change the font be editing fabric.js
>>> wb.js and wb.min.js  in red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-
>>> INF/classes/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb (thanks for the hint to
>>> fabric.js). I think to change one of them would be enough, but I didn't
>>> want to search the right one.
>>>
>>> If "Times New Roman" is important somehow I could do this changes within
>>> my buildscript.
>>>
>>> I will check jira tomorrow morning... kids are waiting... ;-)
>>>
>>> Greetings and thanks so far Peter
>>>
>>> Am 29.01.2018 um 16:00 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> Hello Peter,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> According to the docs: http://fabricjs.com/docs
>>> /fabric.Text.html#fontFamily
>>>
>>> Default font Family is Times New Roman
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It might be inherited from https://github.com/apache
>>> /openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/
>>> css/general.css#L22
>>>
>>> And can be customized via custom.css
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Can you check this?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1821
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 6:13 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think so... ;-) the first one is the default (12) now... There is
>>> written "default" btw... ;-)
>>>
>>> I don't think that my screen is that oversized (24'' 1920x1080), but 12
>>> is unreadable.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 29.01.2018 um 11:52 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> text: 50  ==> font-size == 50pt (can be checked here
>>> https://www-archive.mozilla.org/newlayout/testcases/css/sec526pt2.htm)
>>>
>>> Is it really what you want?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>
>>> this should be fine...
>>>
>>> text : 50
>>> paint: 5 (as is)
>>> draw line: 5 (as is)
>>> highlighter: 20 (as is)
>>> rectangle: 5 (as is)
>>> ellipse: 5 (as is)
>>> arrow: 20
>>>
>>> one more thing: wb uses font with serifs, I would say one without serifs
>>> would be better.
>>>
>>> Greetings Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 26.01.2018 um 15:26 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> Sure, can easily be done if you will provide desired values :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 9:23 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> JIRA done... Take your time
>>>
>>> I have one more Question: Is it possible to have different default
>>> values for different WB tools? Draw need 5 for line width, Arrow I would
>>> prefer 20 and writing 50.
>>>
>>> Greetings Peter and have a nice weekend
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 26.01.2018 um 15:11 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> OK, will try to implement this
>>>
>>> Please create JIRA, so it will go to CHANGELOG :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm less productive these days, hopefully will be able to implement in
>>> nearest week :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 9:09 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think it will... people here tried to use click on the little symbol
>>> in the first place, but when you hover the little symbol chat bar already
>>> start to toggle and the click will not be noticed by the system. but the
>>> user had clicked and it should be opened, but it will close because it is
>>> not docked... and sometimes this ended after a few tries in a complete blue
>>> chat panel...  They asked if it is a kind of game...
>>>
>>> I already thought about open chat by default, but maybe in some
>>> scenarios it shouldn't be like that....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 26.01.2018 um 14:34 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> Currently we have 1 area
>>>
>>> It is hoverable while closed and clickable while opened :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not sure having 2 areas will make this feature more clear :(
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> BTW you can set "Chat is opened by default" in room options ..... :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 5:59 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> I understand your point and I think this could work if people get
>>> familiar with it...
>>>
>>> I think to fit both cases we should divide the closed chat panel in a
>>> hover and a click part.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This should address the ones that want to click and the ones that want
>>> to use hover. And if people still get confused here and the hover area has
>>> an id than it could be turned off via css.
>>>
>>> #cPhover{
>>>         pointer-events: none !important;
>>> }
>>>
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> I got another little feature request, I will create a jira for it.
>>>
>>> Greetings Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 26.01.2018 um 10:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> Hello Peter,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It was my idea :)))
>>>
>>> I thought it is useful:
>>>
>>> 1) you can see the message is arrived
>>>
>>> 2) you hover to check if this message is important or not
>>>
>>> 3) you can click to make it open
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The customization is not that simple
>>>
>>> I believe we should choose proper behavior :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> would appreciate ideas on how this can be improved :))
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 4:33 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Maxim,
>>>
>>> I got a few more feedbacks and one criticized point was, that hover
>>> effect of the chat panel. They expect that it works like a&a, Click -> open
>>> and click -> close.
>>>
>>> Why does it have that hover effect? And if it need to be there in
>>> general, how can I make it act like a&a?
>>>
>>> Greetings Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
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Re: Chat Panel - once again... sorry

Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
Should be addressed, please check :)

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 3:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> OK, I'll remove hover support then
>
> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 3:13 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi Maxim,
>>
>> removing it would be more straight forward and less work (I think)... But
>> I thought maybe you want to keep your "invention"... To split it would
>> preserve all options. Till now nobody complains about that hovering, that's
>> why I thought it is in use without problems, except my people here...
>>
>> So if it is easier to remove it and nobody miss it, than remove it. If it
>> is used by others without any issue, than split it and let it to the user
>> what they prefer.
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>>
>> Am 01.02.2018 um 06:39 schrieb K, Amit (MIND):
>>
>> My vote is “Yes” for this…. I think after removing this, it make feel
>> more stability.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com
>> <so...@gmail.com>]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 1, 2018 10:04 AM
>> *To:* Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>> <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: Chat Panel - once again... sorry
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Dan, Peter,
>>
>>
>>
>> sorry for delay in response, too much personal stuff to do :(
>>
>> I can totally remove this "open on hover" effect (which might be
>> annoying) if there will be no objections :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 8:39 PM, Daniel Ascher <
>> aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the input Peter!
>>
>>
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 3:05 AM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>> if it is splitted somehow this could be done via css.
>>
>> #cPhover{
>>         pointer-events: none !important;
>> }
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 30.01.2018 um 18:51 schrieb Daniel Ascher:
>>
>> Thanks for letting me know about the chat color change. I would prefer if
>> chat doesn't open automatically when one hovers, if that is possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 9:42 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Daniel,
>>
>>
>>
>> chat bar changing its color from blue to sort of yellow on new message
>> (if chat was closed)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 12:08 AM, Daniel Ascher <
>> aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com> wrote:
>>
>> I agree with Peter that the "hover" on the chat is a problem. The reason
>> it's a problem is that it is so easy to accidentally open the chat up when
>> you don't want it open.
>>
>> Is there a way to indicate that there is a new chat message (maybe just
>> change the color of the arrow) or a flashing dot?
>>
>>
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>> The only place fontFace is being set is general.css
>>
>>
>>
>> I believe you can set fontface for main wb <div> and it will do the trick
>>
>>
>>
>> If not, wb-text.js need to be changed .....
>>
>> WBR, Maxim
>> (from mobile, sorry for the typos)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018, 23:07 Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Maxim,
>>
>> I didn't find a way to use custom.css by now, because this part is within
>> a canvas container. I could change the font be editing fabric.js wb.js and
>> wb.min.js  in red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-
>> INF/classes/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb (thanks for the hint to
>> fabric.js). I think to change one of them would be enough, but I didn't
>> want to search the right one.
>>
>> If "Times New Roman" is important somehow I could do this changes within
>> my buildscript.
>>
>> I will check jira tomorrow morning... kids are waiting... ;-)
>>
>> Greetings and thanks so far Peter
>>
>> Am 29.01.2018 um 16:00 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>>
>>
>> According to the docs: http://fabricjs.com/docs
>> /fabric.Text.html#fontFamily
>>
>> Default font Family is Times New Roman
>>
>>
>>
>> It might be inherited from https://github.com/apache
>> /openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/
>> webapp/css/general.css#L22
>>
>> And can be customized via custom.css
>>
>>
>>
>> Can you check this?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1821
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 6:13 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>
>> I think so... ;-) the first one is the default (12) now... There is
>> written "default" btw... ;-)
>>
>> I don't think that my screen is that oversized (24'' 1920x1080), but 12
>> is unreadable.
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 29.01.2018 um 11:52 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> text: 50  ==> font-size == 50pt (can be checked here
>> https://www-archive.mozilla.org/newlayout/testcases/css/sec526pt2.htm)
>>
>> Is it really what you want?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Maxim,
>>
>> this should be fine...
>>
>> text : 50
>> paint: 5 (as is)
>> draw line: 5 (as is)
>> highlighter: 20 (as is)
>> rectangle: 5 (as is)
>> ellipse: 5 (as is)
>> arrow: 20
>>
>> one more thing: wb uses font with serifs, I would say one without serifs
>> would be better.
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 26.01.2018 um 15:26 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> Sure, can easily be done if you will provide desired values :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 9:23 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>
>> JIRA done... Take your time
>>
>> I have one more Question: Is it possible to have different default values
>> for different WB tools? Draw need 5 for line width, Arrow I would prefer 20
>> and writing 50.
>>
>> Greetings Peter and have a nice weekend
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 26.01.2018 um 15:11 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> OK, will try to implement this
>>
>> Please create JIRA, so it will go to CHANGELOG :)
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm less productive these days, hopefully will be able to implement in
>> nearest week :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 9:09 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>
>> I think it will... people here tried to use click on the little symbol in
>> the first place, but when you hover the little symbol chat bar already
>> start to toggle and the click will not be noticed by the system. but the
>> user had clicked and it should be opened, but it will close because it is
>> not docked... and sometimes this ended after a few tries in a complete blue
>> chat panel...  They asked if it is a kind of game...
>>
>> I already thought about open chat by default, but maybe in some scenarios
>> it shouldn't be like that....
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 26.01.2018 um 14:34 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> Currently we have 1 area
>>
>> It is hoverable while closed and clickable while opened :)
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure having 2 areas will make this feature more clear :(
>>
>>
>>
>> BTW you can set "Chat is opened by default" in room options ..... :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 5:59 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>
>> I understand your point and I think this could work if people get
>> familiar with it...
>>
>> I think to fit both cases we should divide the closed chat panel in a
>> hover and a click part.
>>
>>
>>
>> This should address the ones that want to click and the ones that want to
>> use hover. And if people still get confused here and the hover area has an
>> id than it could be turned off via css.
>>
>> #cPhover{
>>         pointer-events: none !important;
>> }
>>
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> I got another little feature request, I will create a jira for it.
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 26.01.2018 um 10:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>>
>>
>> It was my idea :)))
>>
>> I thought it is useful:
>>
>> 1) you can see the message is arrived
>>
>> 2) you hover to check if this message is important or not
>>
>> 3) you can click to make it open
>>
>>
>>
>> The customization is not that simple
>>
>> I believe we should choose proper behavior :)
>>
>>
>>
>> would appreciate ideas on how this can be improved :))
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 4:33 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Maxim,
>>
>> I got a few more feedbacks and one criticized point was, that hover
>> effect of the chat panel. They expect that it works like a&a, Click -> open
>> and click -> close.
>>
>> Why does it have that hover effect? And if it need to be there in
>> general, how can I make it act like a&a?
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> WBR
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>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> WBR
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
>> President
>> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
>> "Creating Bright Futures"
>>
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>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=505+York+Road,+Suite+6+Jenkintown,+PA+19046+Office:+215&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Office:
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=505+York+Road,+Suite+6+Jenkintown,+PA+19046+Office:+215&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> 215
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>> .886.9188
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>> President
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>> "Creating Bright Futures"
>>
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>> Jenkintown, PA 19046
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>>
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>>
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>> President
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>> "Creating Bright Futures"
>>
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>> *Jenkintown, PA 19046*
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>>
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>>
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Re: Chat Panel - once again... sorry

Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
OK, I'll remove hover support then

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 3:13 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:

> Hi Maxim,
>
> removing it would be more straight forward and less work (I think)... But
> I thought maybe you want to keep your "invention"... To split it would
> preserve all options. Till now nobody complains about that hovering, that's
> why I thought it is in use without problems, except my people here...
>
> So if it is easier to remove it and nobody miss it, than remove it. If it
> is used by others without any issue, than split it and let it to the user
> what they prefer.
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
> Am 01.02.2018 um 06:39 schrieb K, Amit (MIND):
>
> My vote is “Yes” for this…. I think after removing this, it make feel more
> stability.
>
>
>
> *From:* Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com
> <so...@gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 1, 2018 10:04 AM
> *To:* Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
> <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
> *Subject:* Re: Chat Panel - once again... sorry
>
>
>
> Hello Dan, Peter,
>
>
>
> sorry for delay in response, too much personal stuff to do :(
>
> I can totally remove this "open on hover" effect (which might be annoying)
> if there will be no objections :)
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 8:39 PM, Daniel Ascher <
> aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the input Peter!
>
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 3:05 AM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
> Hi Daniel,
>
> if it is splitted somehow this could be done via css.
>
> #cPhover{
>         pointer-events: none !important;
> }
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
>
> Am 30.01.2018 um 18:51 schrieb Daniel Ascher:
>
> Thanks for letting me know about the chat color change. I would prefer if
> chat doesn't open automatically when one hovers, if that is possible.
>
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 9:42 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hello Daniel,
>
>
>
> chat bar changing its color from blue to sort of yellow on new message (if
> chat was closed)
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 12:08 AM, Daniel Ascher <
> aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com> wrote:
>
> I agree with Peter that the "hover" on the chat is a problem. The reason
> it's a problem is that it is so easy to accidentally open the chat up when
> you don't want it open.
>
> Is there a way to indicate that there is a new chat message (maybe just
> change the color of the arrow) or a flashing dot?
>
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hello Peter,
>
> The only place fontFace is being set is general.css
>
>
>
> I believe you can set fontface for main wb <div> and it will do the trick
>
>
>
> If not, wb-text.js need to be changed .....
>
> WBR, Maxim
> (from mobile, sorry for the typos)
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018, 23:07 Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
> Hi Maxim,
>
> I didn't find a way to use custom.css by now, because this part is within
> a canvas container. I could change the font be editing fabric.js wb.js and
> wb.min.js  in red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb
> (thanks for the hint to fabric.js). I think to change one of them would be
> enough, but I didn't want to search the right one.
>
> If "Times New Roman" is important somehow I could do this changes within
> my buildscript.
>
> I will check jira tomorrow morning... kids are waiting... ;-)
>
> Greetings and thanks so far Peter
>
> Am 29.01.2018 um 16:00 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Hello Peter,
>
>
>
> According to the docs: http://fabricjs.com/docs/fabric.Text.html#
> fontFamily
>
> Default font Family is Times New Roman
>
>
>
> It might be inherited from https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/
> master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/css/general.css#L22
>
> And can be customized via custom.css
>
>
>
> Can you check this?
>
>
>
>
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1821
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 6:13 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
> I think so... ;-) the first one is the default (12) now... There is
> written "default" btw... ;-)
>
> I don't think that my screen is that oversized (24'' 1920x1080), but 12 is
> unreadable.
>
>
>
> Am 29.01.2018 um 11:52 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> text: 50  ==> font-size == 50pt (can be checked here https://www-archive.
> mozilla.org/newlayout/testcases/css/sec526pt2.htm)
>
> Is it really what you want?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
> Hi Maxim,
>
> this should be fine...
>
> text : 50
> paint: 5 (as is)
> draw line: 5 (as is)
> highlighter: 20 (as is)
> rectangle: 5 (as is)
> ellipse: 5 (as is)
> arrow: 20
>
> one more thing: wb uses font with serifs, I would say one without serifs
> would be better.
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
>
> Am 26.01.2018 um 15:26 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Sure, can easily be done if you will provide desired values :)
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 9:23 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
> JIRA done... Take your time
>
> I have one more Question: Is it possible to have different default values
> for different WB tools? Draw need 5 for line width, Arrow I would prefer 20
> and writing 50.
>
> Greetings Peter and have a nice weekend
>
>
>
> Am 26.01.2018 um 15:11 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> OK, will try to implement this
>
> Please create JIRA, so it will go to CHANGELOG :)
>
>
>
> I'm less productive these days, hopefully will be able to implement in
> nearest week :)
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 9:09 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
> I think it will... people here tried to use click on the little symbol in
> the first place, but when you hover the little symbol chat bar already
> start to toggle and the click will not be noticed by the system. but the
> user had clicked and it should be opened, but it will close because it is
> not docked... and sometimes this ended after a few tries in a complete blue
> chat panel...  They asked if it is a kind of game...
>
> I already thought about open chat by default, but maybe in some scenarios
> it shouldn't be like that....
>
>
>
> Am 26.01.2018 um 14:34 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Currently we have 1 area
>
> It is hoverable while closed and clickable while opened :)
>
>
>
> I'm not sure having 2 areas will make this feature more clear :(
>
>
>
> BTW you can set "Chat is opened by default" in room options ..... :)
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 5:59 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
> I understand your point and I think this could work if people get familiar
> with it...
>
> I think to fit both cases we should divide the closed chat panel in a
> hover and a click part.
>
>
>
> This should address the ones that want to click and the ones that want to
> use hover. And if people still get confused here and the hover area has an
> id than it could be turned off via css.
>
> #cPhover{
>         pointer-events: none !important;
> }
>
>
> What do you think?
>
> I got another little feature request, I will create a jira for it.
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
>
> Am 26.01.2018 um 10:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Hello Peter,
>
>
>
> It was my idea :)))
>
> I thought it is useful:
>
> 1) you can see the message is arrived
>
> 2) you hover to check if this message is important or not
>
> 3) you can click to make it open
>
>
>
> The customization is not that simple
>
> I believe we should choose proper behavior :)
>
>
>
> would appreciate ideas on how this can be improved :))
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 4:33 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de> wrote:
>
> Hi Maxim,
>
> I got a few more feedbacks and one criticized point was, that hover effect
> of the chat panel. They expect that it works like a&a, Click -> open and
> click -> close.
>
> Why does it have that hover effect? And if it need to be there in general,
> how can I make it act like a&a?
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
>
>
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Re: Chat Panel - once again... sorry

Posted by Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>.
Hi Maxim,

removing it would be more straight forward and less work (I think)... 
But I thought maybe you want to keep your "invention"... To split it 
would preserve all options. Till now nobody complains about that 
hovering, that's why I thought it is in use without problems, except my 
people here...

So if it is easier to remove it and nobody miss it, than remove it. If 
it is used by others without any issue, than split it and let it to the 
user what they prefer.

Greetings Peter

Am 01.02.2018 um 06:39 schrieb K, Amit (MIND):
>
> My vote is “Yes” for this…. I think after removing this, it make feel 
> more stability.
>
> *From:*Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 1, 2018 10:04 AM
> *To:* Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
> *Subject:* Re: Chat Panel - once again... sorry
>
> Hello Dan, Peter,
>
> sorry for delay in response, too much personal stuff to do :(
>
> I can totally remove this "open on hover" effect (which might be 
> annoying) if there will be no objections :)
>
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 8:39 PM, Daniel Ascher 
> <aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com <ma...@aplustutoring.com>> 
> wrote:
>
>     Thanks for the input Peter!
>
>     Dan
>
>     On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 3:05 AM, Peter Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
>     <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>
>         Hi Daniel,
>
>         if it is splitted somehow this could be done via css.
>
>         #cPhover{
>                 pointer-events: none !important;
>         }
>
>         Greetings Peter
>
>         Am 30.01.2018 um 18:51 schrieb Daniel Ascher:
>
>             Thanks for letting me know about the chat color change. I
>             would prefer if chat doesn't open automatically when one
>             hovers, if that is possible.
>
>             Dan
>
>             On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 9:42 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
>             <solomax666@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                 Hello Daniel,
>
>                 chat bar changing its color from blue to sort of
>                 yellow on new message (if chat was closed)
>
>                 On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 12:08 AM, Daniel Ascher
>                 <aplusadmin@aplustutoring.com
>                 <ma...@aplustutoring.com>> wrote:
>
>                     I agree with Peter that the "hover" on the chat is
>                     a problem. The reason it's a problem is that it is
>                     so easy to accidentally open the chat up when you
>                     don't want it open.
>
>                     Is there a way to indicate that there is a new
>                     chat message (maybe just change the color of the
>                     arrow) or a flashing dot?
>
>                     Dan
>
>                     On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Maxim Solodovnik
>                     <solomax666@gmail.com
>                     <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                         Hello Peter,
>
>                         The only place fontFace is being set is
>                         general.css
>
>                         I believe you can set fontface for main wb
>                         <div> and it will do the trick
>
>                         If not, wb-text.js need to be changed .....
>
>                         WBR, Maxim
>                         (from mobile, sorry for the typos)
>
>                         On Mon, Jan 29, 2018, 23:07 Peter Dähn
>                         <daehn@vcrp.de <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>
>                             Hi Maxim,
>
>                             I didn't find a way to use custom.css by
>                             now, because this part is within a canvas
>                             container. I could change the font be
>                             editing fabric.js wb.js and wb.min.js  in
>                             red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb
>                             (thanks for the hint to fabric.js). I
>                             think to change one of them would be
>                             enough, but I didn't want to search the
>                             right one.
>
>                             If "Times New Roman" is important somehow
>                             I could do this changes within my buildscript.
>
>                             I will check jira tomorrow morning... kids
>                             are waiting... ;-)
>
>                             Greetings and thanks so far Peter
>
>                             Am 29.01.2018 um 16:00 schrieb Maxim
>                             Solodovnik:
>
>                                 Hello Peter,
>
>                                 According to the docs:
>                                 http://fabricjs.com/docs/fabric.Text.html#fontFamily
>
>                                 Default font Family is Times New Roman
>
>                                 It might be inherited from
>                                 https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/css/general.css#L22
>
>                                 And can be customized via custom.css
>
>                                 Can you check this?
>
>                                 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1821
>
>                                 On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 6:13 PM, Peter
>                                 Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
>                                 <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>
>                                     I think so... ;-) the first one is
>                                     the default (12) now... There is
>                                     written "default" btw... ;-)
>
>                                     I don't think that my screen is
>                                     that oversized (24'' 1920x1080),
>                                     but 12 is unreadable.
>
>                                     Am 29.01.2018 um 11:52 schrieb
>                                     Maxim Solodovnik:
>
>                                         text: 50  ==> font-size ==
>                                         50pt (can be checked here
>                                         https://www-archive.mozilla.org/newlayout/testcases/css/sec526pt2.htm)
>
>
>                                         Is it really what you want?
>
>                                         On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 5:32
>                                         PM, Peter Dähn <daehn@vcrp.de
>                                         <ma...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
>
>                                             Hi Maxim,
>
>                                             this should be fine...
>
>                                             text : 50
>                                             paint: 5 (as is)
>                                             draw line: 5 (as is)
>                                             highlighter: 20 (as is)
>                                             rectangle: 5 (as is)
>                                             ellipse: 5 (as is)
>                                             arrow: 20
>
>                                             one more thing: wb uses
>                                             font with serifs, I would
>                                             say one without serifs
>                                             would be better.
>
>                                             Greetings Peter
>
>                                             Am 26.01.2018 um 15:26
>                                             schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
>                                                 Sure, can easily be
>                                                 done if you will
>                                                 provide desired values :)
>
>                                                 On Fri, Jan 26, 2018
>                                                 at 9:23 PM, Peter Dähn
>                                                 <daehn@vcrp.de
>                                                 <ma...@vcrp.de>>
>                                                 wrote:
>
>                                                     JIRA done... Take
>                                                     your time
>
>                                                     I have one more
>                                                     Question: Is it
>                                                     possible to have
>                                                     different default
>                                                     values for
>                                                     different WB
>                                                     tools? Draw need 5
>                                                     for line width,
>                                                     Arrow I would
>                                                     prefer 20 and
>                                                     writing 50.
>
>                                                     Greetings Peter
>                                                     and have a nice
>                                                     weekend
>
>                                                     Am 26.01.2018 um
>                                                     15:11 schrieb
>                                                     Maxim Solodovnik:
>
>                                                         OK, will try
>                                                         to implement this
>
>                                                         Please create
>                                                         JIRA, so it
>                                                         will go to
>                                                         CHANGELOG :)
>
>                                                         I'm less
>                                                         productive
>                                                         these days,
>                                                         hopefully will
>                                                         be able to
>                                                         implement in
>                                                         nearest week :)
>
>                                                         On Fri, Jan
>                                                         26, 2018 at
>                                                         9:09 PM, Peter
>                                                         Dähn
>                                                         <daehn@vcrp.de
>                                                         <ma...@vcrp.de>>
>                                                         wrote:
>
>                                                             I think it
>                                                             will...
>                                                             people
>                                                             here tried
>                                                             to use
>                                                             click on
>                                                             the little
>                                                             symbol in
>                                                             the first
>                                                             place, but
>                                                             when you
>                                                             hover the
>                                                             little
>                                                             symbol
>                                                             chat bar
>                                                             already
>                                                             start to
>                                                             toggle and
>                                                             the click
>                                                             will not
>                                                             be noticed
>                                                             by the
>                                                             system.
>                                                             but the
>                                                             user had
>                                                             clicked
>                                                             and it
>                                                             should be
>                                                             opened,
>                                                             but it
>                                                             will close
>                                                             because it
>                                                             is not
>                                                             docked...
>                                                             and
>                                                             sometimes
>                                                             this ended
>                                                             after a
>                                                             few tries
>                                                             in a
>                                                             complete
>                                                             blue chat
>                                                             panel...
>                                                             They asked
>                                                             if it is a
>                                                             kind of
>                                                             game...
>
>                                                             I already
>                                                             thought
>                                                             about open
>                                                             chat by
>                                                             default,
>                                                             but maybe
>                                                             in some
>                                                             scenarios
>                                                             it
>                                                             shouldn't
>                                                             be like
>                                                             that....
>
>                                                             Am
>                                                             26.01.2018
>                                                             um 14:34
>                                                             schrieb
>                                                             Maxim
>                                                             Solodovnik:
>
>                                                                 Currently
>                                                                 we
>                                                                 have 1
>                                                                 area
>
>                                                                 It is
>                                                                 hoverable
>                                                                 while
>                                                                 closed
>                                                                 and
>                                                                 clickable
>                                                                 while
>                                                                 opened :)
>
>                                                                 I'm
>                                                                 not
>                                                                 sure
>                                                                 having
>                                                                 2
>                                                                 areas
>                                                                 will
>                                                                 make
>                                                                 this
>                                                                 feature
>                                                                 more
>                                                                 clear :(
>
>                                                                 BTW
>                                                                 you
>                                                                 can
>                                                                 set
>                                                                 "Chat
>                                                                 is
>                                                                 opened
>                                                                 by
>                                                                 default"
>                                                                 in
>                                                                 room
>                                                                 options
>                                                                 ..... :)
>
>                                                                 On
>                                                                 Fri,
>                                                                 Jan
>                                                                 26,
>                                                                 2018
>                                                                 at
>                                                                 5:59
>                                                                 PM,
>                                                                 Peter
>                                                                 Dähn
>                                                                 <daehn@vcrp.de
>                                                                 <ma...@vcrp.de>>
>                                                                 wrote:
>
>                                                                     I
>                                                                     understand
>                                                                     your
>                                                                     point
>                                                                     and
>                                                                     I
>                                                                     think
>                                                                     this
>                                                                     could
>                                                                     work
>                                                                     if
>                                                                     people
>                                                                     get
>                                                                     familiar
>                                                                     with
>                                                                     it...
>
>                                                                     I
>                                                                     think
>                                                                     to
>                                                                     fit
>                                                                     both
>                                                                     cases
>                                                                     we
>                                                                     should
>                                                                     divide
>                                                                     the
>                                                                     closed
>                                                                     chat
>                                                                     panel
>                                                                     in
>                                                                     a
>                                                                     hover
>                                                                     and
>                                                                     a
>                                                                     click
>                                                                     part.
>
>
>
>                                                                     This
>                                                                     should
>                                                                     address
>                                                                     the
>                                                                     ones
>                                                                     that
>                                                                     want
>                                                                     to
>                                                                     click
>                                                                     and
>                                                                     the
>                                                                     ones
>                                                                     that
>                                                                     want
>                                                                     to
>                                                                     use
>                                                                     hover.
>                                                                     And
>                                                                     if
>                                                                     people
>                                                                     still
>                                                                     get
>                                                                     confused
>                                                                     here
>                                                                     and
>                                                                     the
>                                                                     hover
>                                                                     area
>                                                                     has
>                                                                     an
>                                                                     id
>                                                                     than
>                                                                     it
>                                                                     could
>                                                                     be
>                                                                     turned
>                                                                     off
>                                                                     via
>                                                                     css.
>
>                                                                     #cPhover{
>                                                                     pointer-events:
>                                                                     none
>                                                                     !important;
>                                                                     }
>
>
>                                                                     What
>                                                                     do
>                                                                     you
>                                                                     think?
>
>                                                                     I
>                                                                     got
>                                                                     another
>                                                                     little
>                                                                     feature
>                                                                     request,
>                                                                     I
>                                                                     will
>                                                                     create
>                                                                     a
>                                                                     jira
>                                                                     for
>                                                                     it.
>
>                                                                     Greetings
>                                                                     Peter
>
>
>
>                                                                     Am
>                                                                     26.01.2018
>                                                                     um
>                                                                     10:36
>                                                                     schrieb
>                                                                     Maxim
>                                                                     Solodovnik:
>
>                                                                         Hello
>                                                                         Peter,
>
>
>                                                                         It
>                                                                         was
>                                                                         my
>                                                                         idea
>                                                                         :)))
>
>                                                                         I
>                                                                         thought
>                                                                         it
>                                                                         is
>                                                                         useful:
>
>
>                                                                         1)
>                                                                         you
>                                                                         can
>                                                                         see
>                                                                         the
>                                                                         message
>                                                                         is
>                                                                         arrived
>
>                                                                         2)
>                                                                         you
>                                                                         hover
>                                                                         to
>                                                                         check
>                                                                         if
>                                                                         this
>                                                                         message
>                                                                         is
>                                                                         important
>                                                                         or
>                                                                         not
>
>                                                                         3)
>                                                                         you
>                                                                         can
>                                                                         click
>                                                                         to
>                                                                         make
>                                                                         it
>                                                                         open
>
>
>                                                                         The
>                                                                         customization
>                                                                         is
>                                                                         not
>                                                                         that
>                                                                         simple
>
>                                                                         I
>                                                                         believe
>                                                                         we
>                                                                         should
>                                                                         choose
>                                                                         proper
>                                                                         behavior
>                                                                         :)
>
>                                                                         would
>                                                                         appreciate
>                                                                         ideas
>                                                                         on
>                                                                         how
>                                                                         this
>                                                                         can
>                                                                         be
>                                                                         improved
>                                                                         :))
>
>                                                                         On
>                                                                         Fri,
>                                                                         Jan
>                                                                         26,
>                                                                         2018
>                                                                         at
>                                                                         4:33
>                                                                         PM,
>                                                                         Peter
>                                                                         Dähn
>                                                                         <daehn@vcrp.de
>                                                                         <ma...@vcrp.de>>
>                                                                         wrote:
>
>                                                                             Hi
>                                                                             Maxim,
>
>                                                                             I
>                                                                             got
>                                                                             a
>                                                                             few
>                                                                             more
>                                                                             feedbacks
>                                                                             and
>                                                                             one
>                                                                             criticized
>                                                                             point
>                                                                             was,
>                                                                             that
>                                                                             hover
>                                                                             effect
>                                                                             of
>                                                                             the
>                                                                             chat
>                                                                             panel.
>                                                                             They
>                                                                             expect
>                                                                             that
>                                                                             it
>                                                                             works
>                                                                             like
>                                                                             a&a,
>                                                                             Click
>                                                                             ->
>                                                                             open
>                                                                             and
>                                                                             click
>                                                                             ->
>                                                                             close.
>
>                                                                             Why
>                                                                             does
>                                                                             it
>                                                                             have
>                                                                             that
>                                                                             hover
>                                                                             effect?
>                                                                             And
>                                                                             if
>                                                                             it
>                                                                             need
>                                                                             to
>                                                                             be
>                                                                             there
>                                                                             in
>                                                                             general,
>                                                                             how
>                                                                             can
>                                                                             I
>                                                                             make
>                                                                             it
>                                                                             act
>                                                                             like
>                                                                             a&a?
>
>                                                                             Greetings
>                                                                             Peter
>
>                                                                         --
>
>
>                                                                         WBR
>                                                                         Maxim
>                                                                         aka
>                                                                         solomax
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RE: Chat Panel - once again... sorry

Posted by "K, Amit (MIND)" <Am...@mind-infotech.com>.
My vote is “Yes” for this…. I think after removing this, it make feel more stability.

From: Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax666@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 10:04 AM
To: Openmeetings user-list <us...@openmeetings.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Chat Panel - once again... sorry

Hello Dan, Peter,

sorry for delay in response, too much personal stuff to do :(
I can totally remove this "open on hover" effect (which might be annoying) if there will be no objections :)

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 8:39 PM, Daniel Ascher <ap...@aplustutoring.com>> wrote:
Thanks for the input Peter!

Dan


On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 3:05 AM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
Hi Daniel,

if it is splitted somehow this could be done via css.

#cPhover{
        pointer-events: none !important;
}

Greetings Peter

Am 30.01.2018 um 18:51 schrieb Daniel Ascher:
Thanks for letting me know about the chat color change. I would prefer if chat doesn't open automatically when one hovers, if that is possible.

Dan

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 9:42 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello Daniel,

chat bar changing its color from blue to sort of yellow on new message (if chat was closed)

On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 12:08 AM, Daniel Ascher <ap...@aplustutoring.com>> wrote:
I agree with Peter that the "hover" on the chat is a problem. The reason it's a problem is that it is so easy to accidentally open the chat up when you don't want it open.
Is there a way to indicate that there is a new chat message (maybe just change the color of the arrow) or a flashing dot?

Dan

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello Peter,
The only place fontFace is being set is general.css

I believe you can set fontface for main wb <div> and it will do the trick

If not, wb-text.js need to be changed .....
WBR, Maxim
(from mobile, sorry for the typos)

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018, 23:07 Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
Hi Maxim,

I didn't find a way to use custom.css by now, because this part is within a canvas container. I could change the font be editing fabric.js wb.js and wb.min.js  in red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/org/apache/openmeetings/web/room/wb (thanks for the hint to fabric.js). I think to change one of them would be enough, but I didn't want to search the right one.

If "Times New Roman" is important somehow I could do this changes within my buildscript.

I will check jira tomorrow morning... kids are waiting... ;-)

Greetings and thanks so far Peter
Am 29.01.2018 um 16:00 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
Hello Peter,

According to the docs: http://fabricjs.com/docs/fabric.Text.html#fontFamily
Default font Family is Times New Roman

It might be inherited from https://github.com/apache/openmeetings/blob/master/openmeetings-web/src/main/webapp/css/general.css#L22
And can be customized via custom.css

Can you check this?


https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1821


On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 6:13 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
I think so... ;-) the first one is the default (12) now... There is written "default" btw... ;-)

I don't think that my screen is that oversized (24'' 1920x1080), but 12 is unreadable.


Am 29.01.2018 um 11:52 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
text: 50  ==> font-size == 50pt (can be checked here https://www-archive.mozilla.org/newlayout/testcases/css/sec526pt2.htm)
Is it really what you want?

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
Hi Maxim,

this should be fine...

text : 50
paint: 5 (as is)
draw line: 5 (as is)
highlighter: 20 (as is)
rectangle: 5 (as is)
ellipse: 5 (as is)
arrow: 20

one more thing: wb uses font with serifs, I would say one without serifs would be better.

Greetings Peter

Am 26.01.2018 um 15:26 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
Sure, can easily be done if you will provide desired values :)

On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 9:23 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
JIRA done... Take your time

I have one more Question: Is it possible to have different default values for different WB tools? Draw need 5 for line width, Arrow I would prefer 20 and writing 50.

Greetings Peter and have a nice weekend

Am 26.01.2018 um 15:11 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
OK, will try to implement this
Please create JIRA, so it will go to CHANGELOG :)

I'm less productive these days, hopefully will be able to implement in nearest week :)

On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 9:09 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
I think it will... people here tried to use click on the little symbol in the first place, but when you hover the little symbol chat bar already start to toggle and the click will not be noticed by the system. but the user had clicked and it should be opened, but it will close because it is not docked... and sometimes this ended after a few tries in a complete blue chat panel...  They asked if it is a kind of game...

I already thought about open chat by default, but maybe in some scenarios it shouldn't be like that....

Am 26.01.2018 um 14:34 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
Currently we have 1 area
It is hoverable while closed and clickable while opened :)

I'm not sure having 2 areas will make this feature more clear :(

BTW you can set "Chat is opened by default" in room options ..... :)

On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 5:59 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
I understand your point and I think this could work if people get familiar with it...

I think to fit both cases we should divide the closed chat panel in a hover and a click part.



This should address the ones that want to click and the ones that want to use hover. And if people still get confused here and the hover area has an id than it could be turned off via css.

#cPhover{
        pointer-events: none !important;
}


What do you think?

I got another little feature request, I will create a jira for it.

Greetings Peter


Am 26.01.2018 um 10:36 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
Hello Peter,

It was my idea :)))
I thought it is useful:
1) you can see the message is arrived
2) you hover to check if this message is important or not
3) you can click to make it open

The customization is not that simple
I believe we should choose proper behavior :)

would appreciate ideas on how this can be improved :))

On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 4:33 PM, Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:
Hi Maxim,

I got a few more feedbacks and one criticized point was, that hover effect of the chat panel. They expect that it works like a&a, Click -> open and click -> close.

Why does it have that hover effect? And if it need to be there in general, how can I make it act like a&a?

Greetings Peter


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