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[jira] Created: (INFRA-1335) Need a not-public mailing list for JSR
314
Need a not-public mailing list for JSR 314
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Key: INFRA-1335
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1335
Project: Infrastructure
Issue Type: Task
Security Level: public (Regular issues)
Components: Mailing Lists
Reporter: Matthias Weßendorf
As discussed here:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-jcp-open/200708.mbox/%3c71235db40708240145i710dbbc0nb331064c3f98bf53@mail.gmail.com%3e
we need a not-public mailing-list for the JSR-314.
(similar like the tck@ mailings)
preferred address is "jsr-314@closed-dev.apache.org"
Only committer that have signed the NDA can have access to this list.
Not sure how could be the moderator... In case, I am willing to jump in.
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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-1335) Need a not-public mailing list for
JSR 314
Posted by "Gary VanMatre (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Gary VanMatre commented on INFRA-1335:
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Yes, Sun is leading this JSR and will provide the RI.
I started a thread on the jcp-open mailing list two months ago asking for advice representing this JSR. Unfortunately, I was not given a response - only a comment about a few profit corporations.
I don't understand how a readonly list equates to software licensing considering that many apache mailing lists are moderated and there are private lists for each community?
> Need a not-public mailing list for JSR 314
> ------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INFRA-1335
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1335
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Task
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mailing Lists
> Reporter: Matthias Weßendorf
> Assignee: Geir Magnusson Jr
>
> As discussed here:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-jcp-open/200708.mbox/%3c71235db40708240145i710dbbc0nb331064c3f98bf53@mail.gmail.com%3e
> we need a not-public mailing-list for the JSR-314.
> (similar like the tck@ mailings)
> preferred address is "jsr-314@closed-dev.apache.org"
> Only committer that have signed the NDA can have access to this list.
> Not sure how could be the moderator... In case, I am willing to jump in.
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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-1335) Need a not-public mailing list for
JSR 314
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Noel J. Bergman commented on INFRA-1335:
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> The ASF does not do any development on closed lists.
As I understand it, that would be true here, too:
> this is a list that gets emails from the original JSR discussion list.
> But, those that are subscribed to this list, aren't able to respond.
So a read-only archive of the EG traffic.
My complaint is that this JSR is closed again. I thought that we had determined after the JSR-168 fiasco, that we would not participate on JSRs that did not do their development in the open.
> Need a not-public mailing list for JSR 314
> ------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INFRA-1335
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1335
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Task
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mailing Lists
> Reporter: Matthias Weßendorf
> Assignee: Geir Magnusson Jr
>
> As discussed here:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-jcp-open/200708.mbox/%3c71235db40708240145i710dbbc0nb331064c3f98bf53@mail.gmail.com%3e
> we need a not-public mailing-list for the JSR-314.
> (similar like the tck@ mailings)
> preferred address is "jsr-314@closed-dev.apache.org"
> Only committer that have signed the NDA can have access to this list.
> Not sure how could be the moderator... In case, I am willing to jump in.
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[jira] Closed: (INFRA-1335) Need a not-public mailing list for JSR
314
Posted by "Roy T. Fielding (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Roy T. Fielding closed INFRA-1335.
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Resolution: Won't Fix
The ASF does not do any development on closed lists. Why the request was made is irrelevant.
If individuals want to participate on a closed EG, they can do so on their own behalf.
> Need a not-public mailing list for JSR 314
> ------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INFRA-1335
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1335
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Task
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mailing Lists
> Reporter: Matthias Weßendorf
> Assignee: Geir Magnusson Jr
>
> As discussed here:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-jcp-open/200708.mbox/%3c71235db40708240145i710dbbc0nb331064c3f98bf53@mail.gmail.com%3e
> we need a not-public mailing-list for the JSR-314.
> (similar like the tck@ mailings)
> preferred address is "jsr-314@closed-dev.apache.org"
> Only committer that have signed the NDA can have access to this list.
> Not sure how could be the moderator... In case, I am willing to jump in.
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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-1335) Need a not-public mailing list for
JSR 314
Posted by "Henri Yandell (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Henri Yandell commented on INFRA-1335:
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This is quite a new request - we've not got any private lists for discussing JSRs besides the TCK ones.
Have you discussed this with Geir?
> Need a not-public mailing list for JSR 314
> ------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INFRA-1335
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1335
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Task
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mailing Lists
> Reporter: Matthias Weßendorf
>
> As discussed here:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-jcp-open/200708.mbox/%3c71235db40708240145i710dbbc0nb331064c3f98bf53@mail.gmail.com%3e
> we need a not-public mailing-list for the JSR-314.
> (similar like the tck@ mailings)
> preferred address is "jsr-314@closed-dev.apache.org"
> Only committer that have signed the NDA can have access to this list.
> Not sure how could be the moderator... In case, I am willing to jump in.
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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-1335) Need a not-public mailing list for
JSR 314
Posted by "Gary VanMatre (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Gary VanMatre commented on INFRA-1335:
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>Haven't we determined that we will not participate in closed JSRs? This is not something that the JCP should be doing.
Please elaborate... I had not realized there was an official ruling on this. I've been trying to follow the debates on ASF's position. There has been talk of lawsuit, withdrawing from the JCP and just mandating that all ASF JSR representation vote -1 on all issues (but not based on technical or legal credibility). Is ASF only interested in participating in JSR's that they can dictate the "correct" process? Or, are we just against any specification that imposes field of use restrictions and we really don't care how the spec leads run the JSR?
> Need a not-public mailing list for JSR 314
> ------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INFRA-1335
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1335
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Task
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mailing Lists
> Reporter: Matthias Weßendorf
> Assignee: Geir Magnusson Jr
>
> As discussed here:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-jcp-open/200708.mbox/%3c71235db40708240145i710dbbc0nb331064c3f98bf53@mail.gmail.com%3e
> we need a not-public mailing-list for the JSR-314.
> (similar like the tck@ mailings)
> preferred address is "jsr-314@closed-dev.apache.org"
> Only committer that have signed the NDA can have access to this list.
> Not sure how could be the moderator... In case, I am willing to jump in.
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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-1335) Need a not-public mailing list for
JSR 314
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Noel J. Bergman commented on INFRA-1335:
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Haven't we determined that we will not participate in closed JSRs? This is not something that the JCP should be doing.
> Need a not-public mailing list for JSR 314
> ------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INFRA-1335
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1335
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Task
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mailing Lists
> Reporter: Matthias Weßendorf
> Assignee: Geir Magnusson Jr
>
> As discussed here:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-jcp-open/200708.mbox/%3c71235db40708240145i710dbbc0nb331064c3f98bf53@mail.gmail.com%3e
> we need a not-public mailing-list for the JSR-314.
> (similar like the tck@ mailings)
> preferred address is "jsr-314@closed-dev.apache.org"
> Only committer that have signed the NDA can have access to this list.
> Not sure how could be the moderator... In case, I am willing to jump in.
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[jira] Assigned: (INFRA-1335) Need a not-public mailing list for
JSR 314
Posted by "Henri Yandell (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Henri Yandell reassigned INFRA-1335:
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Assignee: Geir Magnusson Jr
Thoughts Geir? Is this the kind of the thing the ASF should be doing?
> Need a not-public mailing list for JSR 314
> ------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INFRA-1335
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1335
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Task
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mailing Lists
> Reporter: Matthias Weßendorf
> Assignee: Geir Magnusson Jr
>
> As discussed here:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-jcp-open/200708.mbox/%3c71235db40708240145i710dbbc0nb331064c3f98bf53@mail.gmail.com%3e
> we need a not-public mailing-list for the JSR-314.
> (similar like the tck@ mailings)
> preferred address is "jsr-314@closed-dev.apache.org"
> Only committer that have signed the NDA can have access to this list.
> Not sure how could be the moderator... In case, I am willing to jump in.
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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-1335) Need a not-public mailing list for
JSR 314
Posted by "Matthias Weßendorf (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Matthias Weßendorf commented on INFRA-1335:
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Oh, I think you missunderstood.
this isn't a list to *discuss* a JSR, this is a list, that get's emails from the original JSR discussion list.
But, those that are subscribed to this list, aren't able to respond.
> Need a not-public mailing list for JSR 314
> ------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INFRA-1335
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1335
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Task
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mailing Lists
> Reporter: Matthias Weßendorf
>
> As discussed here:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-jcp-open/200708.mbox/%3c71235db40708240145i710dbbc0nb331064c3f98bf53@mail.gmail.com%3e
> we need a not-public mailing-list for the JSR-314.
> (similar like the tck@ mailings)
> preferred address is "jsr-314@closed-dev.apache.org"
> Only committer that have signed the NDA can have access to this list.
> Not sure how could be the moderator... In case, I am willing to jump in.
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