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[users@httpd] Nesting the Files section in httpd.conf
I am looking for an example of the correct way to nest a Files section inside a
Directory section in the httpd.conf file. I have searched through the apache
site and google and can't find one. Here are the (I think) relative sections of
my httpd.conf (just in case I am using the Files section properly and have
something else messed up):
<Directory "/var/www/html">
Options FollowSymLinks ExecCGI
AllowOverride AuthConfig
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
</Directory>
...
<Directory /var/www/html/sitename/maint/users/>
AllowOverride AuthConfig
<Files var/www/html/sitename/maint/users/protected.file>
AuthType Basic
AuthName "Protected File"
Require user user_name
</Files>
</Directory>
...
<VirtualHost *>
ServerAdmin webmaster@hostname.edu
DocumentRoot /var/www/html/sitename
ServerName sitename
ErrorLog /path/to/error_log
</VirtualHost>
<VirtualHost *>
ServerAdmin webmaster@hostname.edu
DocumentRoot /var/www/html/sitename
ServerName www.hostname.edu
ErrorLog /path/to/error_log
Options Indexes ExecCGI
</VirtualHost>
but it doesn't work. It works if I protect the whole directory by removing the
File section tags.
Thanks for your time,
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Re: [users@httpd] Nesting the Files section in httpd.conf
Posted by William Wilson <wi...@appliedgenerics.com>.
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On Tuesday 13 May 2003 14:57, Zac Stevens dipped quill in ink and quoth:
>
> ermm...I think you need to take a look at the doco you pointed the OP at:
>
> "Note that <Files> can be nested inside <Directory> sections to
> restrict the portion of the filesystem they apply to."
>
>
> Zac
Oops.
Please don't mail me direct, I get the list. With reference to the docs I
pointed at; they also say :
<Files> directive
Syntax: <Files filename> ... </Files>
Context: server config, virtual host, .htaccess
which I inferred to mean you don't use <Files ...> inside a <Directory ...>,
but then goes on to contradict it, as you quoted above. Perhaps you should be
pointing this out to httpd.apache.org, who can amend the documentation,
rather than me, who can't. I can confirm that my suggested solution works so
I stand by the original mail (if perhaps not the phrasing, which on second
reading sounds aloof).
Will
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Re: [users@httpd] Nesting the Files section in httpd.conf
Posted by Zac Stevens <zt...@cryptocracy.com>.
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 02:37:02PM +0100, William Wilson wrote:
> Don't nest the 'files' directive inside a 'directory' directive, simply
> include it in your server config section. You'll probably need a leading
> slash on your opening <Files (your path here)> directive.
ermm...I think you need to take a look at the doco you pointed the OP at:
"Note that <Files> can be nested inside <Directory> sections to
restrict the portion of the filesystem they apply to."
Zac
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Re: [users@httpd] Nesting the Files section in httpd.conf
Posted by sjm <sj...@porter.acadaff.appstate.edu>.
Apache starts fine. I restart it everytime I change httpd.conf, and then check
the error log. I then type in the URL and the page displays with no
authorization. The error log doesn't mention not being able to find the
.htpasswd file or anything. I do not have it nested within an <IfModule ...>
directive. I don't think you're being patronizing. I have only been using
apache for a year, and am still very much in the learning process.
-Thanks again,
Steve
William Wilson wrote:
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>
>>"...Note that <Files> can be nested inside <Directory> sections to restrict
>>the portion of the filesystem they apply to."
>>
>> -- http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/core.html#files
>
>
> Yep, Zac just pointed this out. You're both quite right. It does appear that
> they're nestable. I've never used them that way, hence my original reply. And
> if it was nested inside the directory you think it would resolve against the
> directory path, as the doc suggest.
>
>
>
>>I am now using this:
>>
>><Directory /var/www/html/sitename/maint/users/>
>> AllowOverride AuthConfig
>></Directory>
>>
>><Files /var/www/html/sitename/maint/users/protected.file>
>> AuthType Basic
>> AuthName "Protected File"
>> AuthUserFile /path/to/.htpasswd
>> Require user user_name
>></Files>
>>
>>and it doesn't work either.
>
>
>
> Forgive me if I'm being patronising; do you have the above enclosed in an
> <IfModule ...> directive? And when you say it doesn't work, does apache start
> OK with no complaints but just not respond in the manner you expect?
>
>
> Will
>
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Nesting the Files section in httpd.conf
Posted by William Wilson <wi...@appliedgenerics.com>.
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On Tuesday 13 May 2003 14:58, sjm wrote:
> "...Note that <Files> can be nested inside <Directory> sections to restrict
> the portion of the filesystem they apply to."
>
> -- http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/core.html#files
Yep, Zac just pointed this out. You're both quite right. It does appear that
they're nestable. I've never used them that way, hence my original reply. And
if it was nested inside the directory you think it would resolve against the
directory path, as the doc suggest.
> I am now using this:
>
> <Directory /var/www/html/sitename/maint/users/>
> AllowOverride AuthConfig
> </Directory>
>
> <Files /var/www/html/sitename/maint/users/protected.file>
> AuthType Basic
> AuthName "Protected File"
> AuthUserFile /path/to/.htpasswd
> Require user user_name
> </Files>
>
> and it doesn't work either.
Forgive me if I'm being patronising; do you have the above enclosed in an
<IfModule ...> directive? And when you say it doesn't work, does apache start
OK with no complaints but just not respond in the manner you expect?
Will
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Re: [users@httpd] Nesting the Files section in httpd.conf
Posted by sjm <sj...@porter.acadaff.appstate.edu>.
Here is where I thought it was possible to nest the Files section inside the
directory section. The missing leading slash was a dumb mistake, thanks for
pointing it out!
"...Note that <Files> can be nested inside <Directory> sections to restrict the
portion of the filesystem they apply to."
-- http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/core.html#files
I am now using this:
<Directory /var/www/html/sitename/maint/users/>
AllowOverride AuthConfig
</Directory>
<Files /var/www/html/sitename/maint/users/protected.file>
AuthType Basic
AuthName "Protected File"
AuthUserFile /path/to/.htpasswd
Require user user_name
</Files>
and it doesn't work either.
Any suggestions?
William Wilson wrote:
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>>I am looking for an example of the correct way to nest a Files section
>>inside a Directory section in the httpd.conf file. I have searched through
>>the apache site and google and can't find one. Here are the (I think)
>>relative sections of my httpd.conf (just in case I am using the Files
>>section properly and have something else messed up):
>
>
>
>
> OK, your mistake appears to be trying to nest incompatible block directives.
> Don't nest the 'files' directive inside a 'directory' directive, simply
> include it in your server config section. You'll probably need a leading
> slash on your opening <Files (your path here)> directive.
>
> To avoid this type of mistake in future you could read the apache 1.3 manual
> (assuming you use 1.3; the 2.0 manual is available on line too) at
> http://httpd.apache.org/docs . The entry
> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/core.html#files is particularly pertinent.
> You'll see it contains a section 'context'. This tells you where you can use
> a particular directive and will help you to avoid the <Files > mistake above.
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
>
> Will
>
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Nesting the Files section in httpd.conf
Posted by William Wilson <wi...@appliedgenerics.com>.
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On Tuesday 13 May 2003 14:16, sjm wrote:
> I am looking for an example of the correct way to nest a Files section
> inside a Directory section in the httpd.conf file. I have searched through
> the apache site and google and can't find one. Here are the (I think)
> relative sections of my httpd.conf (just in case I am using the Files
> section properly and have something else messed up):
OK, your mistake appears to be trying to nest incompatible block directives.
Don't nest the 'files' directive inside a 'directory' directive, simply
include it in your server config section. You'll probably need a leading
slash on your opening <Files (your path here)> directive.
To avoid this type of mistake in future you could read the apache 1.3 manual
(assuming you use 1.3; the 2.0 manual is available on line too) at
http://httpd.apache.org/docs . The entry
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/core.html#files is particularly pertinent.
You'll see it contains a section 'context'. This tells you where you can use
a particular directive and will help you to avoid the <Files > mistake above.
Hope this helps.
Will
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Re: [users@httpd] Nesting the Files section in httpd.conf
Posted by sjm <sj...@porter.acadaff.appstate.edu>.
Thank you once again. The reason it was not working was an error on my part.
Just to confirm: You do not need AllowOverride in this case like Joshua stated.
-Steve
Joshua Slive wrote:
> On Tue, 13 May 2003, sjm wrote:
>
>
>>hmmm... I just found a slight problem with it... It tries to protect every file
>>in the directory, not just protected.file!
>>
>>I commented out the directory section tags along with the AllowOverride
>>AuthConfig line. What happened really blew my mind... It protected every file
>>in the directory except protected.file!
>>
>>Any suggestions for this problem?
>
>
> AllowOverride should not be there in the first place, since that controls
> only .htaccess files.
>
> You almost certainly have either an .htaccess file or another section in
> your config file that is overriding your configuration directives. Try
> simplifying your config.
>
> Joshua.
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Re: [users@httpd] Nesting the Files section in httpd.conf
Posted by Joshua Slive <jo...@slive.ca>.
On Tue, 13 May 2003, sjm wrote:
> hmmm... I just found a slight problem with it... It tries to protect every file
> in the directory, not just protected.file!
>
> I commented out the directory section tags along with the AllowOverride
> AuthConfig line. What happened really blew my mind... It protected every file
> in the directory except protected.file!
>
> Any suggestions for this problem?
AllowOverride should not be there in the first place, since that controls
only .htaccess files.
You almost certainly have either an .htaccess file or another section in
your config file that is overriding your configuration directives. Try
simplifying your config.
Joshua.
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Re: [users@httpd] Nesting the Files section in httpd.conf
Posted by sjm <sj...@porter.acadaff.appstate.edu>.
hmmm... I just found a slight problem with it... It tries to protect every file
in the directory, not just protected.file!
I commented out the directory section tags along with the AllowOverride
AuthConfig line. What happened really blew my mind... It protected every file
in the directory except protected.file!
Any suggestions for this problem?
-steve
sjm wrote:
> Awesome! Thanks Joshua!
>
> Here's the final answer I am using for anyone that may find it useful:
>
> <Directory /var/www/html/sitename/maint/users/>
> AllowOverride AuthConfig
>
> <Files protected.file>
> AuthType Basic
> AuthName "Protected File"
> AuthUserFile /path/to/.htpasswd
> Require user user_name
> </Files>
> </Directory>
>
> Thanks again,
> Steve
>
> Joshua Slive wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 13 May 2003, sjm wrote:
>>
>>> <Files var/www/html/sitename/maint/users/protected.file>
>>
>>
>>
>> <Files> takes a filename as an argument, not a full path. You want
>> <Files
>> protected.file>
>>
>> Joshua.
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Re: [users@httpd] Nesting the Files section in httpd.conf
Posted by sjm <sj...@porter.acadaff.appstate.edu>.
Awesome! Thanks Joshua!
Here's the final answer I am using for anyone that may find it useful:
<Directory /var/www/html/sitename/maint/users/>
AllowOverride AuthConfig
<Files protected.file>
AuthType Basic
AuthName "Protected File"
AuthUserFile /path/to/.htpasswd
Require user user_name
</Files>
</Directory>
Thanks again,
Steve
Joshua Slive wrote:
> On Tue, 13 May 2003, sjm wrote:
>
>> <Files var/www/html/sitename/maint/users/protected.file>
>
>
> <Files> takes a filename as an argument, not a full path. You want <Files
> protected.file>
>
> Joshua.
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Re: [users@httpd] Nesting the Files section in httpd.conf
Posted by William Wilson <wi...@appliedgenerics.com>.
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On Tuesday 13 May 2003 16:09, Joshua Slive wrote:
> On Tue, 13 May 2003, sjm wrote:
> > <Files var/www/html/sitename/maint/users/protected.file>
>
> <Files> takes a filename as an argument, not a full path. You want <Files
> protected.file>
>
> Joshua.
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Thanks for the clear and concise answer. With reference to my previous posts
I'll now have to figure out how the heck my apache setup works, as it's
obviously not doing what I think it is.
Will
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Re: [users@httpd] Nesting the Files section in httpd.conf
Posted by Joshua Slive <jo...@slive.ca>.
On Tue, 13 May 2003, sjm wrote:
> <Files var/www/html/sitename/maint/users/protected.file>
<Files> takes a filename as an argument, not a full path. You want <Files
protected.file>
Joshua.
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