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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Philipp Ewald <ph...@digionline.de> on 2024/09/18 09:37:23 UTC
non-free Services
Hello,,
im searching for all non-free comercial services in Spamassasin.
ATM i found:
dns_query_restriction deny sorbs.net
dns_query_restriction deny bl.mailspike.net
dns_query_restriction deny wl.mailspike.net
Spamcop (ZEN)
Does i need to disable other services as well?
cant find any official information.
We have high mail volume so "free" use is not possilbe.
Kind regards
Philipp
Re: non-free Services
Posted by Philipp Ewald <ph...@digionline.de>.
OK, thank for that input.
Am 18.09.24 um 11:46 schrieb Marc:
>> im searching for all non-free comercial services in Spamassasin.
>>
>>
>> ATM i found:
>> dns_query_restriction deny sorbs.net
>> dns_query_restriction deny bl.mailspike.net
>> dns_query_restriction deny wl.mailspike.net
>> Spamcop (ZEN)
>>
>> Does i need to disable other services as well?
>> cant find any official information.
>>
>>
>> We have high mail volume so "free" use is not possilbe.
>>
>>
> I am also thinking of scaling the email business for quite some time, but did not do shit in practice. However I was wondering what the limits are you are reaching?
>
> Eg. if you are borderline, maybe you could think about how to arrange your processing flow. I don't think it is efficient to use dnsbl in spamassassin. With rearranging your processing I mean before you even start doing dns lookups start rejecting emails.
> The other thing I can think of is rearranging your dns servers and caching so you bring back the amount of queries you send there.
>
>
RE: non-free Services
Posted by Marc <Ma...@f1-outsourcing.eu>.
>
> im searching for all non-free comercial services in Spamassasin.
>
>
> ATM i found:
> dns_query_restriction deny sorbs.net
> dns_query_restriction deny bl.mailspike.net
> dns_query_restriction deny wl.mailspike.net
> Spamcop (ZEN)
>
> Does i need to disable other services as well?
> cant find any official information.
>
>
> We have high mail volume so "free" use is not possilbe.
>
>
I am also thinking of scaling the email business for quite some time, but did not do shit in practice. However I was wondering what the limits are you are reaching?
Eg. if you are borderline, maybe you could think about how to arrange your processing flow. I don't think it is efficient to use dnsbl in spamassassin. With rearranging your processing I mean before you even start doing dns lookups start rejecting emails.
The other thing I can think of is rearranging your dns servers and caching so you bring back the amount of queries you send there.
RE: non-free Services
Posted by Simon Standley <si...@yacc.co.uk>.
We use invalument.com ... good for the stuff that often slips by. Your mileage may vary, etc.
-----Original Message-----
From: Philipp Ewald <ph...@digionline.de>
Sent: 18 September 2024 11:27
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: non-free Services
Hello,
>The idea is that you can use those services for free if you are a small
>user (spam filter for me and my dog) but if you start to look like a
>commercial service yourself, you need to pay your part.
Yes we use commercial. We allready paying SURBL because we got a information about limits.
Thanks i will check them and if we will hit limits.
> Some RBL are cheaper. Some are open to deals when you share data. Some
> are worth every penny of their expensive plans. Some good RBL are not in
> standard spamassassin
Some recommendations?
many thnaks
Am 18.09.24 um 12:18 schrieb Laurent S.:
> On 18.09.24 11:37, Philipp Ewald wrote:
>> Hello,,
>>
>> im searching for all non-free comercial services in Spamassasin.
>>
>>
>> ATM i found:
>> dns_query_restriction deny sorbs.net
>> dns_query_restriction deny bl.mailspike.net
>> dns_query_restriction deny wl.mailspike.net
>> Spamcop (ZEN)
>>
>> Does i need to disable other services as well?
>> cant find any official information.
>>
>>
>> We have high mail volume so "free" use is not possilbe.
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Philipp
> Depending on the amount to traffic you have, dnswl.org, uribl.com,
> surbl.org will also start blocking your requests. If you monitor
> spamassassin hits for RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED, URIBL_BLOCKED or
> SURBL_BLOCKED, you'll know you are above limits.
>
> The idea is that you can use those services for free if you are a small
> user (spam filter for me and my dog) but if you start to look like a
> commercial service yourself, you need to pay your part.
>
> Some RBL are cheaper. Some are open to deals when you share data. Some
> are worth every penny of their expensive plans. Some good RBL are not in
> standard spamassassin. I'd advise you to make sure you still have a
> decent amount of RBL still active.
>
> Best,
> Laurent
>
Re: non-free Services
Posted by Philipp Ewald <ph...@digionline.de>.
Hello,
>The idea is that you can use those services for free if you are a small
>user (spam filter for me and my dog) but if you start to look like a
>commercial service yourself, you need to pay your part.
Yes we use commercial. We allready paying SURBL because we got a
information about limits.
Thanks i will check them and if we will hit limits.
> Some RBL are cheaper. Some are open to deals when you share data. Some
> are worth every penny of their expensive plans. Some good RBL are not in
> standard spamassassin
Some recommendations?
many thnaks
Am 18.09.24 um 12:18 schrieb Laurent S.:
> On 18.09.24 11:37, Philipp Ewald wrote:
>> Hello,,
>>
>> im searching for all non-free comercial services in Spamassasin.
>>
>>
>> ATM i found:
>> dns_query_restriction deny sorbs.net
>> dns_query_restriction deny bl.mailspike.net
>> dns_query_restriction deny wl.mailspike.net
>> Spamcop (ZEN)
>>
>> Does i need to disable other services as well?
>> cant find any official information.
>>
>>
>> We have high mail volume so "free" use is not possilbe.
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Philipp
> Depending on the amount to traffic you have, dnswl.org, uribl.com,
> surbl.org will also start blocking your requests. If you monitor
> spamassassin hits for RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED, URIBL_BLOCKED or
> SURBL_BLOCKED, you'll know you are above limits.
>
> The idea is that you can use those services for free if you are a small
> user (spam filter for me and my dog) but if you start to look like a
> commercial service yourself, you need to pay your part.
>
> Some RBL are cheaper. Some are open to deals when you share data. Some
> are worth every penny of their expensive plans. Some good RBL are not in
> standard spamassassin. I'd advise you to make sure you still have a
> decent amount of RBL still active.
>
> Best,
> Laurent
>
Good DNSBLs not in standard spamassassin (Was Re: non-free Services)
Posted by Andy Smith <an...@strugglers.net>.
Hi,
On Wed, Sep 18, 2024 at 10:18:18AM +0000, Laurent S. wrote:
> Some good RBL are not in standard spamassassin.
Out of interest, which DNSBLs do you use/recommend that are not in
standard spamassassin?
Thanks,
Andy
Re: non-free Services
Posted by "Laurent S." <11...@protonmail.ch>.
On 18.09.24 11:37, Philipp Ewald wrote:
> Hello,,
>
> im searching for all non-free comercial services in Spamassasin.
>
>
> ATM i found:
> dns_query_restriction deny sorbs.net
> dns_query_restriction deny bl.mailspike.net
> dns_query_restriction deny wl.mailspike.net
> Spamcop (ZEN)
>
> Does i need to disable other services as well?
> cant find any official information.
>
>
> We have high mail volume so "free" use is not possilbe.
>
>
> Kind regards
> Philipp
Depending on the amount to traffic you have, dnswl.org, uribl.com,
surbl.org will also start blocking your requests. If you monitor
spamassassin hits for RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED, URIBL_BLOCKED or
SURBL_BLOCKED, you'll know you are above limits.
The idea is that you can use those services for free if you are a small
user (spam filter for me and my dog) but if you start to look like a
commercial service yourself, you need to pay your part.
Some RBL are cheaper. Some are open to deals when you share data. Some
are worth every penny of their expensive plans. Some good RBL are not in
standard spamassassin. I'd advise you to make sure you still have a
decent amount of RBL still active.
Best,
Laurent