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Posted to users@flex.apache.org by Isaac Hanson <is...@starlig.ht> on 2013/01/26 19:32:51 UTC

linux sdk install help?

Could someone please point me to the instructions/download for
installing the SDK on Linux?  I want to replace the adobe version on
my build server (4.6) with the latest Apache version, but cannot find
anything regarding Linux support.

Thank you.

Isaac Hanson
Senior Software Engineer
Scholastic, Inc.

Re: linux sdk install help?

Posted by Jeffry Houser <je...@dot-com-it.com>.
  Did you look at the release notes and/or the Readme files for the 
latest version?

http://flex.apache.org/download.html

   Since the current version of AIR is no longer supported on Linux; I 
do not believe you'll find the installer available.  But, you should be 
able to compile it yourself.

On 1/26/2013 1:43 PM, Isaac Hanson wrote:
> Could someone please point me to the instructions/download for
> installing the SDK on Linux?  I want to replace the adobe version on
> my build server (4.6) with the latest Apache version, but cannot find
> anything regarding Linux support.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Isaac Hanson
> Senior Software Engineer
> Scholastic, Inc.


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linux sdk install help?

Posted by Isaac Hanson <is...@starlig.ht>.
Could someone please point me to the instructions/download for
installing the SDK on Linux?  I want to replace the adobe version on
my build server (4.6) with the latest Apache version, but cannot find
anything regarding Linux support.

Thank you.

Isaac Hanson
Senior Software Engineer
Scholastic, Inc.

Re: linux sdk install help?

Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,

> What about the AIR SDK 3.4 that is the required minimum for Apache Flex 4.9?
It not really a required minimum just the default. You can install any version.

Justin

Re: linux sdk install help?

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.


On 1/26/13 10:33 PM, "Justin Mclean" <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
>> Justin can probably best advise on how to drop a binary distribution back to
>> an older AIR version.
> I think we just bundle a different version of AIR when/if we create a linux
> distribution. The last version of AIR available for linux is 2.6 so that's
> going back quite a few versions.
AFAICT, that maps to FP 10.2 so it "should" work.

I don't know when/if we'll get around to an official Linux distribution, so
I'm just wondering if you can help theorize on the recipe for working from a
4.9.0 binary distribution.  Is it as easy as editing the air-config.xml for
swf version 11?  Or would it be easier to get one of your recent scripts?

-- 
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui


Re: linux sdk install help?

Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,

> Justin can probably best advise on how to drop a binary distribution back to an older AIR version.
I think we just bundle a different version of AIR when/if we create a linux distribution. The last version of AIR available for linux is 2.6 so that's going back quite a few versions.

Justin

Re: linux sdk install help?

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.


On 1/26/13 9:45 PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What about the AIR SDK 3.4 that is the required minimum for Apache Flex 4.9?
Good point, I guess maybe that would have been a good reason not to force a
new minimum, but even then, the binary distribution should work because
Justin did all of that work to allow older versions of AIR.  AFAIK, we have
no actual dependency on that version of AIR, but I might be forgetting
something.

Justin can probably best advise on how to drop a binary distribution back to
an older AIR version.

-- 
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui


Re: linux sdk install help?

Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
What about the AIR SDK 3.4 that is the required minimum for Apache Flex 4.9?

Om

On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:

>
>
>
> On 1/26/13 2:31 PM, "Michael Montoya" <mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > How is it that Linux, THE open-source OS par excellence is not supported
> by a
> > project under the Apache umbrella?
> There are parts of the SDK that embed pixel bender executables.  According
> to Apache rules, a release must be all source, so the build script requires
> that you compile the pixel bender sources into their executables.  Adobe
> does not have pixel bender compilers for Linux.
>
> > this absolutely makes no sense to me.
> > Supporting OSX can't possibly be all that different than suppoting Linux,
> > which leads me to belive that the reason is more political than
> technical...
> > boo this really turns me off to the project!
> It is a legal technicality.  We should look into making the pixel bender
> stuff optional somehow.
>
> In theory, you should be able to manually install and setup one of the
> binary distributions on Linux.  However, none of the active committers are
> using Linux as far as I can tell.  I would love to have someone who is a
> regular Linux user help us test the release candidates on Linux and help
> with documentation or even contribute to the installer.  Would you like to
> volunteer?
>
>
> --
> Alex Harui
> Flex SDK Team
> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>
>

Re: linux sdk install help?

Posted by Michael Montoya <mi...@insightvisuals.com>.
Good to hear, I'll have to sign up to that list then...


On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:

> Over on the dev@flex.apache.org list, there is tons of activity on
> removing
> Flash as a dependency.
>
>
> On 1/28/13 12:46 AM, "Michael Montoya" <mm...@stockpile.com> wrote:
>
> > As the feedback to the Linux question grows, it highlights for me a
> glaring
> > flaw in the Apache Flex  project; and this is the inherent conflict of
> > interest between the stated aims of the open-source community and the
> > for-profit model espoused by proprietary technology. While there is
> nothing
> > inherently wrong with either model, I think that when it comes to
> open-source
> > technology, it should be an all-or nothing proposition.
> >
> > Adobe has effectively given the open source community the keys to the
> car but
> > kept control of the engine to itself (i.e. the AIR runtime and the Flash
> > Player). This means that at Adobe's whim, as the political winds have
> already
> > shown it capable of, it can invalidate all the efforts of the open source
> > community in favor of some alternate avenue were the potential returns
> worth
> > the expense of inciting the community's ire. Where profit is concerned,
> never
> > think that the unthinkable won't be done - we have lately seen many such
> > poignant pyrotechnic displays of large companies "nuking" each other for
> > dominance over the mobile space... (insert name of large publicly traded
> > company here).
> >
> > As developers, sure we're concerned about earning our paychecks, but if
> profit
> > were our only motive we'd all be investment bankers - no, we want to
> build new
> > tools to make people wonder and delight, to eliminate the drudgery of
> the old
> > way of doing things, to innovate and dream up new ways of overcoming
> hurdles
> > that have no business in the virtual world...
> >
> > To this end, I hate obstacles, and I see Adobe's control over the
> lynch-pin of
> > this particular project as a particularly troubling one. I would propose
> that
> > Actionscript and, consequently, Flex, target the JVM (or any other
> comparable
> > open source engine capable of providing the 2D and 3D graphics context
> and web
> > services) and therefore completely sever it's ties to proprietary
> technology.
> > So long as the Apache Flex project is a satellite to proprietary
> technology I
> > can't place much stock in its long term success and I have reservations
> about
> > getting completely behind it.
> >
> > If you feel otherwise, I would love to hear your reasoning as to why you
> feel
> > its proprietary ties are not really an obstacle to its success.
> >
> > This is truly not an attempt to flame, I've been a Flash/Actionscript
> user
> > since Flash 2 having made a huge investment in Flash technology and I
> truly
> > hope for its continued success as a free, independent venture. My aim is
> to
> > engender a high-level dialogue to ensure that Apache Flex is truly
> charting
> > the best possible course.
> >
> > Best,
> > Michael Montoya
> > Lead Front End Developer
> > Stockpile.com
> >
> > On Jan 27, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Brad Neufeld <ne...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> When I have completed my current project, I would be happy to test a
> linux
> >> distribution as well.  It is my preferred environment and I had to
> setup a
> >> virtual machine just to run XP and Flex.  It would be great to get rid
> of
> >> that extra step.
> >>
> >> I was never clear what the specific technical hurdles were that Adobe
> was
> >> unable to overcome in order to port to Linux, and I hope we do not find
> out
> >> that the problem is much more intractable than one might think.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Brad
>
> --
> Alex Harui
> Flex SDK Team
> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>
>

Re: linux sdk install help?

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
Over on the dev@flex.apache.org list, there is tons of activity on removing
Flash as a dependency.


On 1/28/13 12:46 AM, "Michael Montoya" <mm...@stockpile.com> wrote:

> As the feedback to the Linux question grows, it highlights for me a glaring
> flaw in the Apache Flex  project; and this is the inherent conflict of
> interest between the stated aims of the open-source community and the
> for-profit model espoused by proprietary technology. While there is nothing
> inherently wrong with either model, I think that when it comes to open-source
> technology, it should be an all-or nothing proposition.
> 
> Adobe has effectively given the open source community the keys to the car but
> kept control of the engine to itself (i.e. the AIR runtime and the Flash
> Player). This means that at Adobe's whim, as the political winds have already
> shown it capable of, it can invalidate all the efforts of the open source
> community in favor of some alternate avenue were the potential returns worth
> the expense of inciting the community's ire. Where profit is concerned, never
> think that the unthinkable won't be done - we have lately seen many such
> poignant pyrotechnic displays of large companies "nuking" each other for
> dominance over the mobile space... (insert name of large publicly traded
> company here).
> 
> As developers, sure we're concerned about earning our paychecks, but if profit
> were our only motive we'd all be investment bankers - no, we want to build new
> tools to make people wonder and delight, to eliminate the drudgery of the old
> way of doing things, to innovate and dream up new ways of overcoming hurdles
> that have no business in the virtual world...
> 
> To this end, I hate obstacles, and I see Adobe's control over the lynch-pin of
> this particular project as a particularly troubling one. I would propose that
> Actionscript and, consequently, Flex, target the JVM (or any other comparable
> open source engine capable of providing the 2D and 3D graphics context and web
> services) and therefore completely sever it's ties to proprietary technology.
> So long as the Apache Flex project is a satellite to proprietary technology I
> can't place much stock in its long term success and I have reservations about
> getting completely behind it.
> 
> If you feel otherwise, I would love to hear your reasoning as to why you feel
> its proprietary ties are not really an obstacle to its success.
> 
> This is truly not an attempt to flame, I've been a Flash/Actionscript user
> since Flash 2 having made a huge investment in Flash technology and I truly
> hope for its continued success as a free, independent venture. My aim is to
> engender a high-level dialogue to ensure that Apache Flex is truly charting
> the best possible course.
> 
> Best,
> Michael Montoya
> Lead Front End Developer
> Stockpile.com
> 
> On Jan 27, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Brad Neufeld <ne...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> When I have completed my current project, I would be happy to test a linux
>> distribution as well.  It is my preferred environment and I had to setup a
>> virtual machine just to run XP and Flex.  It would be great to get rid of
>> that extra step.
>> 
>> I was never clear what the specific technical hurdles were that Adobe was
>> unable to overcome in order to port to Linux, and I hope we do not find out
>> that the problem is much more intractable than one might think.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Brad

-- 
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui


Re: linux sdk install help?

Posted by Michael Montoya <mm...@stockpile.com>.
As the feedback to the Linux question grows, it highlights for me a glaring flaw in the Apache Flex  project; and this is the inherent conflict of interest between the stated aims of the open-source community and the for-profit model espoused by proprietary technology. While there is nothing inherently wrong with either model, I think that when it comes to open-source technology, it should be an all-or nothing proposition.

Adobe has effectively given the open source community the keys to the car but kept control of the engine to itself (i.e. the AIR runtime and the Flash Player). This means that at Adobe's whim, as the political winds have already shown it capable of, it can invalidate all the efforts of the open source community in favor of some alternate avenue were the potential returns worth the expense of inciting the community's ire. Where profit is concerned, never think that the unthinkable won't be done - we have lately seen many such poignant pyrotechnic displays of large companies "nuking" each other for dominance over the mobile space... (insert name of large publicly traded company here).

As developers, sure we're concerned about earning our paychecks, but if profit were our only motive we'd all be investment bankers - no, we want to build new tools to make people wonder and delight, to eliminate the drudgery of the old way of doing things, to innovate and dream up new ways of overcoming hurdles that have no business in the virtual world...

To this end, I hate obstacles, and I see Adobe's control over the lynch-pin of this particular project as a particularly troubling one. I would propose that Actionscript and, consequently, Flex, target the JVM (or any other comparable open source engine capable of providing the 2D and 3D graphics context and web services) and therefore completely sever it's ties to proprietary technology. So long as the Apache Flex project is a satellite to proprietary technology I can't place much stock in its long term success and I have reservations about getting completely behind it.

If you feel otherwise, I would love to hear your reasoning as to why you feel its proprietary ties are not really an obstacle to its success. 

This is truly not an attempt to flame, I've been a Flash/Actionscript user since Flash 2 having made a huge investment in Flash technology and I truly hope for its continued success as a free, independent venture. My aim is to engender a high-level dialogue to ensure that Apache Flex is truly charting the best possible course.

Best,
Michael Montoya
Lead Front End Developer
Stockpile.com

On Jan 27, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Brad Neufeld <ne...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> When I have completed my current project, I would be happy to test a linux distribution as well.  It is my preferred environment and I had to setup a virtual machine just to run XP and Flex.  It would be great to get rid of that extra step.
> 
> I was never clear what the specific technical hurdles were that Adobe was unable to overcome in order to port to Linux, and I hope we do not find out that the problem is much more intractable than one might think.
> 
> Cheers,
> Brad

Re: linux sdk install help?

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.


On 1/27/13 2:43 PM, "Russell Warren" <ru...@perspexis.com> wrote:

> I'll pipe in here with some simple points since I routinely/exclusively
> work with Flex on Linux.  I don't do flash/flex dev on Windows at all.
> 
> I'm still using Flex 4.6 at the moment.  I plan on switching to Apache Flex
> in the coming weeks and can provide an update to the mailing list then, if
> people are interested how it goes.
Yes, please let us know how it goes and feel free to ask question.

> I don't expect too many difficulties
> switching over (famous last words?), but know I won't be able to use the
> auto-install that has been created.   However, for 4.6 I basically just
> needed to unpack the tar file and that was pretty much it, (I think... been
> a while) so this gives me some measure of confidence.  Dependencies may be
> fun, but I hope I can just copy some of these across (fingers crossed!),
> assuming they haven't changed radically.
One key difference is that the Apache Flex binary distribution is not
"ready-to-go" like Adobe Flex because the Apache Flex binary distribution
cannot contain some of the Adobe-proprietary files that are in the Adobe
Flex tar.  So you will have to follow the readme and download/copy stuff
manually.

-- 
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui


Re: linux sdk install help?

Posted by Russell Warren <ru...@perspexis.com>.
I'll pipe in here with some simple points since I routinely/exclusively
work with Flex on Linux.  I don't do flash/flex dev on Windows at all.

I'm still using Flex 4.6 at the moment.  I plan on switching to Apache Flex
in the coming weeks and can provide an update to the mailing list then, if
people are interested how it goes.  I don't expect too many difficulties
switching over (famous last words?), but know I won't be able to use the
auto-install that has been created.   However, for 4.6 I basically just
needed to unpack the tar file and that was pretty much it, (I think... been
a while) so this gives me some measure of confidence.  Dependencies may be
fun, but I hope I can just copy some of these across (fingers crossed!),
assuming they haven't changed radically.

I use IntelliJ IDEA as my IDE for flash/flex and it works extremely well on
linux, including debugging (see below).

Flash player 11.2 plugin and standalone still work very well on Linux.

Chrome for linux is running the latest flash player and also works quite
well.  I'm currently at v11.5.31.137 via the pepper plugin.   ie: Flash for
Linux is not actually dead as people often say... you just need to use
Chrome (or stick with the v11.2 plugin).

For debugging I use the standalone flashplayerdebugger for Linux.  This is
stuck even further back (v11.1), but this has not caused me any dev
problems at all (as of yet).

AIR is another story.  The "proper"/supported Linux version for AIR (2.6)
is now pretty ancient, but the new one works through Wine... or at least I
got it working several months back, anyway.  Getting it to work on a 64-bit
system is/was a bit of a nightmare, though.  Definitely not for the faint
of heart.  I don't use AIR and it was really painful , so I don't have a
currently functioning version to speak more to than that.

Hopefully some of that helps someone, even if it's just letting fellow
Flex-on-Linux devs know they aren't completely alone. :)

Russ

Re: linux sdk install help?

Posted by Jeffry Houser <je...@dot-com-it.com>.
On 1/27/2013 11:21 AM, Alex Harui wrote:
>
>
> On 1/27/13 2:52 AM, "Michael Montoya" <mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I was always under the impression that the lack of support stemmed from the
>> flash plugin for the respective browsers on Linux...
> Yes, it is true that Adobe has stopped development of AIR and browser
> plug-ins on Linux
  I thought that Flash Player still worked on Linux?  It had something 
to do w/ a new plugin API--Pepper--I believe?
  Does the new 'Pepper Flash' not count as a plugin?  Or has that been 
abandoned too?

Linux is still covered in the Flash Platform Roadmap: 
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html


Re: linux sdk install help?

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.


On 1/27/13 2:52 AM, "Michael Montoya" <mo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I was always under the impression that the lack of support stemmed from the
> flash plugin for the respective browsers on Linux...
Yes, it is true that Adobe has stopped development of AIR and browser
plug-ins on Linux and Adobe kept upping the minimum player version for Flex.
However, Justin seems to have done the work to allow you to use the Apache
Flex 4.9.0 release on older versions all the way back to 10.2/AIR2.6, so it
would be great to see someone actually try it out.

-- 
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui


Re: linux sdk install help?

Posted by Michael Montoya <mo...@gmail.com>.
I was always under the impression that the lack of support stemmed from the flash plugin for the respective browsers on Linux...

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 27, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Brad Neufeld <ne...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> When I have completed my current project, I would be happy to test a linux distribution as well.  It is my preferred environment and I had to setup a virtual machine just to run XP and Flex.  It would be great to get rid of that extra step.
> 
> I was never clear what the specific technical hurdles were that Adobe was unable to overcome in order to port to Linux, and I hope we do not find out that the problem is much more intractable than one might think.
> 
> Cheers,
> Brad

Re: linux sdk install help?

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.


On 1/27/13 1:36 AM, "Brad Neufeld" <ne...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> When I have completed my current project, I would be happy to test a linux
> distribution as well.  It is my preferred environment and I had to setup a
> virtual machine just to run XP and Flex.  It would be great to get rid of that
> extra step.
Remember that Apache Flex is not in charge of the Flash Builder IDE.  What
SDK dependencies caused you to have to use XP in the past?
> 
> I was never clear what the specific technical hurdles were that Adobe was
> unable to overcome in order to port to Linux, and I hope we do not find out
> that the problem is much more intractable than one might think.
I'm pretty sure folks used Adobe Flex on Linux without Flash Builder and
without XP VMs.  For now, I'm looking for help seeing if we can make the Mac
OSX binary distribution work on Linux.  Hope you can help.

-- 
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui


Re: linux sdk install help?

Posted by Brad Neufeld <ne...@yahoo.com>.
When I have completed my current project, I would be happy to test a linux distribution as well.  It is my preferred environment and I had to setup a virtual machine just to run XP and Flex.  It would be great to get rid of that extra step.

I was never clear what the specific technical hurdles were that Adobe was unable to overcome in order to port to Linux, and I hope we do not find out that the problem is much more intractable than one might think.

Cheers,
Brad

RE: linux sdk install help?

Posted by Timothy Jones <Ti...@syniverse.com>.
I'm very glad to hear this... I'll try extracting from the MacOSX tar file on Linux soon and report back my findings.


Timothy Jones

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Harui [mailto:aharui@adobe.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 12:15 AM
To: users@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: linux sdk install help?




On 1/26/13 2:31 PM, "Michael Montoya" <mo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> How is it that Linux, THE open-source OS par excellence is not 
> supported by a project under the Apache umbrella?
There are parts of the SDK that embed pixel bender executables.  According to Apache rules, a release must be all source, so the build script requires that you compile the pixel bender sources into their executables.  Adobe does not have pixel bender compilers for Linux.

> this absolutely makes no sense to me.
> Supporting OSX can't possibly be all that different than suppoting 
> Linux, which leads me to belive that the reason is more political than technical...
> boo this really turns me off to the project!
It is a legal technicality.  We should look into making the pixel bender stuff optional somehow.

In theory, you should be able to manually install and setup one of the binary distributions on Linux.  However, none of the active committers are using Linux as far as I can tell.  I would love to have someone who is a regular Linux user help us test the release candidates on Linux and help with documentation or even contribute to the installer.  Would you like to volunteer?


--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui


Re: linux sdk install help?

Posted by Jeffry Houser <je...@dot-com-it.com>.

On 1/26/2013 5:31 PM, Michael Montoya wrote:
> How is it that Linux, THE open-source OS par excellence is not supported by a project under the Apache umbrella? this absolutely makes no sense to me. Supporting OSX can't possibly be all that different than suppoting Linux, which leads me to belive that the reason is more political than technical...

  Or it could be limited resources and differing priorities of folks 
working on Apache Flex.

> boo this really turns me off to the project!

  The great thing about open source and the way the Apache Foundation 
works is that you can make it a priority; and put in the work to make 
sure the SDK compiles on Linux; and then helping get documentation 
and/or code changes into the next release of Apache Flex.  If you're not 
a committer you can donate said documentation and/or code via the JIRA 
bug base.

  I believe that would be productive use of your frustration for the 
lack of support.




-- 
Jeffry Houser
Technical Entrepreneur
203-379-0773
--
http://www.flextras.com?c=104
UI Flex Components: Tested! Supported! Ready!
--
http://www.theflexshow.com
http://www.jeffryhouser.com
http://www.asktheflexpert.com
--
Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust


Re: linux sdk install help?

Posted by Łukasz Zaroda <lu...@luken-tech.pl>.
I'm using linux. I'm not really linux "nerd" and didn't work on any open
source project yet, but if someone would show me what to do I can help
in testing and bug tracking so if anyone will start to work on something
like this, please let me know. I'm also looking forward for linux
support :) .

Łukasz



W dniu 27.01.2013 06:14, Alex Harui pisze:
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/26/13 2:31 PM, "Michael Montoya" <mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> How is it that Linux, THE open-source OS par excellence is not supported by a
>> project under the Apache umbrella?
> There are parts of the SDK that embed pixel bender executables.  According
> to Apache rules, a release must be all source, so the build script requires
> that you compile the pixel bender sources into their executables.  Adobe
> does not have pixel bender compilers for Linux.
> 
>> this absolutely makes no sense to me.
>> Supporting OSX can't possibly be all that different than suppoting Linux,
>> which leads me to belive that the reason is more political than technical...
>> boo this really turns me off to the project!
> It is a legal technicality.  We should look into making the pixel bender
> stuff optional somehow.
> 
> In theory, you should be able to manually install and setup one of the
> binary distributions on Linux.  However, none of the active committers are
> using Linux as far as I can tell.  I would love to have someone who is a
> regular Linux user help us test the release candidates on Linux and help
> with documentation or even contribute to the installer.  Would you like to
> volunteer?
> 
> 



Re: linux sdk install help?

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.


On 1/26/13 2:31 PM, "Michael Montoya" <mo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> How is it that Linux, THE open-source OS par excellence is not supported by a
> project under the Apache umbrella?
There are parts of the SDK that embed pixel bender executables.  According
to Apache rules, a release must be all source, so the build script requires
that you compile the pixel bender sources into their executables.  Adobe
does not have pixel bender compilers for Linux.

> this absolutely makes no sense to me.
> Supporting OSX can't possibly be all that different than suppoting Linux,
> which leads me to belive that the reason is more political than technical...
> boo this really turns me off to the project!
It is a legal technicality.  We should look into making the pixel bender
stuff optional somehow.

In theory, you should be able to manually install and setup one of the
binary distributions on Linux.  However, none of the active committers are
using Linux as far as I can tell.  I would love to have someone who is a
regular Linux user help us test the release candidates on Linux and help
with documentation or even contribute to the installer.  Would you like to
volunteer?


-- 
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui


Re: linux sdk install help?

Posted by Michael Montoya <mo...@gmail.com>.
How is it that Linux, THE open-source OS par excellence is not supported by a project under the Apache umbrella? this absolutely makes no sense to me. Supporting OSX can't possibly be all that different than suppoting Linux, which leads me to belive that the reason is more political than technical... boo this really turns me off to the project! 

Long live the Penguin! 

On Jan 26, 2013, at 11:15 PM, Carol Frampton <cf...@adobe.com> wrote:

> Apache Flex is not supported on Linux.
> 
> Carol
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:33 PM, "Isaac Hanson" <is...@starlig.ht> wrote:
> 
>> Could someone please point me to the instructions/download for
>> installing the SDK on Linux?  I want to replace the adobe version on
>> my build server (4.6) with the latest Apache version, but cannot find
>> anything regarding Linux support.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> Isaac Hanson
>> Senior Software Engineer
>> Scholastic, Inc.

Re: linux sdk install help?

Posted by Carol Frampton <cf...@adobe.com>.
Apache Flex is not supported on Linux.

Carol

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:33 PM, "Isaac Hanson" <is...@starlig.ht> wrote:

> Could someone please point me to the instructions/download for
> installing the SDK on Linux?  I want to replace the adobe version on
> my build server (4.6) with the latest Apache version, but cannot find
> anything regarding Linux support.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Isaac Hanson
> Senior Software Engineer
> Scholastic, Inc.

Re: linux sdk install help?

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.


On 1/26/13 4:35 PM, "Justin Mclean" <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Does anyone know what the issues are for not being able to support Linux?
> It's probably not a long list especially if Adobe 4.6 was supported.
> 
Well, technically, only the official release is not supported on linux
because there are no Adobe build tools for PixelBender and the
ExtensionManager.  IOW, you cannot run the build on Linux.

However, the convenience binary distribution might work, but I don't think
it has been tested by anyone.  Also note that the installers do not install
linux versions of AIR for you so the recipe for linux (in theory) is to:

1) download and expand the binary distribution (I think I would use the mac
distribution's tar.gz
2) read the readme and download all of the necessary parts yourself and set
up the appropriate environment variables.

But I don't know anything about linux so I could certainly be missing
something.

-- 
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui


Re: linux sdk install help?

Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,

Does anyone know what the issues are for not being able to support Linux?  It's probably not a long list especially if Adobe 4.6 was supported.

Justin