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Posted to server-user@james.apache.org by Jason Clark <je...@gmail.com> on 2005/02/17 20:55:35 UTC
queue analysis
Are there any good queue analysis tools I can use to view the status
of my mail queues?
in postfix the mailq command give some useful information.
I'm asking because I have a rule setup to:
<mailet match="RecipientIs=moreinfo@hamshow.com" class="Forward">
<forwardto>jeclark@gmail.com</forwardto>
</mailet>
I have this setup immeadiatley after : <processor name="root">
there's no mention in the log that the mail was forwarded to
jeclark@gmail.com, but if I look in the /var/mail/relay-denied, I look
in the file XXXXXXXX.Repository.FileObjectStore and find the
jeclark@gmail.com address.
Any ideas why that would be? If I could at least get a bit more
information out of the system, at the current time, I don't even have
anything in my logs.
Cheers,
jason.
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Re: queue analysis
Posted by Jason Clark <je...@gmail.com>.
only internal processes ( i.e. those residing on the 172.16.*.*
network ) should be sending mail to moreinfo@hamshow.com.
but for whatever reason they always end up in the relay-denied
directory. Which is a little frustrating as I think I shoud have
everything setup correctly to do this.
I'm going to take your suggestion ( it's a cleaner solution than what
I've done anyway ), and hopefully it resolves my problem.
Thanks for you help on this.
cheers,
jason.
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:38:37 -0000, Daniel Perry <d....@netcase.co.uk> wrote:
> Yeah, that should work for allowing people on those ips to relay, and send
> mails that are forwarded to gmail. However, any mail coming from any other
> ip would not get forwarded as it would be not in those ip ranges. ie. if i
> sent an email to moreinfo@hamshow.com via my smtp server it would get
> blocked.
>
> I would that you use authorisation, but set 172.16.*.* as an authorised
> address, and remove that mailet. That way:
> - anyone can send email to local addresses
> - anyone can send email to local addresses that get forwarded
> - anyone on 172.16.* can use it as an smtp relay without any authorisation
> - anyone outside that ip range trying to relay mail will be forced to
> authorise themselves.
>
> Daniel.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jason Clark [mailto:jeclark@gmail.com]
> > Sent: 18 February 2005 14:09
> > To: Daniel Perry
> > Cc: James Users List
> > Subject: Re: queue analysis
> >
> >
> > I don't really want a 'totally open relay', but I would like to
> > authorize a few hosts to use it as an smtp server ( similar to the way
> > you add an entry in the access file in sendmail )
> >
> > I thought that :
> >
> > <mailet match="RemoteAddrNotInNetwork=127.0.0.1,172.16.*.*"
> > class="ToProcessor">
> > <processor> relay-denied </processor>
> > <notice>550 - Requested action not taken: relaying denied</notice>
> > </mailet>
> >
> > would allow this to happen.
> >
> > cheers,
> > jason.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:08:40 -0000, Daniel Perry
> > <d....@netcase.co.uk> wrote:
> > > No idea about mail analysis tools, but i think your problem is
> > as follows:
> > >
> > > Mail comes in to: moreinfo@hamshow.com.
> > > Gets changed to: jeclark@gmail.com by your forwarder.
> > >
> > > Gets caught by: (assuming you have it enables)
> > >
> > > <mailet match="RemoteAddrNotInNetwork=127.0.0.1" class="ToProcessor">
> > > <processor> relay-denied </processor>
> > > <notice>550 - Requested action not taken: relaying denied</notice>
> > > </mailet>
> > >
> > > This mailet is there so that any mail put into the system that
> > is not for
> > > local delivery, and was not put there by localhost will be
> > denied relaying.
> > > (Note, open relay very very bad!)
> > >
> > > If you have smtp authentication enabled, then you can safely
> > comment out the
> > > above, as any mail not for the local machine will have to be
> > authorised when
> > > it enters james.
> > >
> > > Daniel.
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jason Clark [mailto:jeclark@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: 17 February 2005 19:56
> > > > To: server-user@james.apache.org
> > > > Subject: queue analysis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Are there any good queue analysis tools I can use to view the status
> > > > of my mail queues?
> > > >
> > > > in postfix the mailq command give some useful information.
> > > >
> > > > I'm asking because I have a rule setup to:
> > > >
> > > > <mailet match="RecipientIs=moreinfo@hamshow.com" class="Forward">
> > > > <forwardto>jeclark@gmail.com</forwardto>
> > > > </mailet>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have this setup immeadiatley after : <processor name="root">
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > there's no mention in the log that the mail was forwarded to
> > > > jeclark@gmail.com, but if I look in the /var/mail/relay-denied, I look
> > > > in the file XXXXXXXX.Repository.FileObjectStore and find the
> > > > jeclark@gmail.com address.
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas why that would be? If I could at least get a bit more
> > > > information out of the system, at the current time, I don't even have
> > > > anything in my logs.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > jason.
> > > >
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
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RE: queue analysis
Posted by Daniel Perry <d....@netcase.co.uk>.
Yeah, that should work for allowing people on those ips to relay, and send
mails that are forwarded to gmail. However, any mail coming from any other
ip would not get forwarded as it would be not in those ip ranges. ie. if i
sent an email to moreinfo@hamshow.com via my smtp server it would get
blocked.
I would that you use authorisation, but set 172.16.*.* as an authorised
address, and remove that mailet. That way:
- anyone can send email to local addresses
- anyone can send email to local addresses that get forwarded
- anyone on 172.16.* can use it as an smtp relay without any authorisation
- anyone outside that ip range trying to relay mail will be forced to
authorise themselves.
Daniel.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Clark [mailto:jeclark@gmail.com]
> Sent: 18 February 2005 14:09
> To: Daniel Perry
> Cc: James Users List
> Subject: Re: queue analysis
>
>
> I don't really want a 'totally open relay', but I would like to
> authorize a few hosts to use it as an smtp server ( similar to the way
> you add an entry in the access file in sendmail )
>
> I thought that :
>
> <mailet match="RemoteAddrNotInNetwork=127.0.0.1,172.16.*.*"
> class="ToProcessor">
> <processor> relay-denied </processor>
> <notice>550 - Requested action not taken: relaying denied</notice>
> </mailet>
>
> would allow this to happen.
>
> cheers,
> jason.
>
>
> On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:08:40 -0000, Daniel Perry
> <d....@netcase.co.uk> wrote:
> > No idea about mail analysis tools, but i think your problem is
> as follows:
> >
> > Mail comes in to: moreinfo@hamshow.com.
> > Gets changed to: jeclark@gmail.com by your forwarder.
> >
> > Gets caught by: (assuming you have it enables)
> >
> > <mailet match="RemoteAddrNotInNetwork=127.0.0.1" class="ToProcessor">
> > <processor> relay-denied </processor>
> > <notice>550 - Requested action not taken: relaying denied</notice>
> > </mailet>
> >
> > This mailet is there so that any mail put into the system that
> is not for
> > local delivery, and was not put there by localhost will be
> denied relaying.
> > (Note, open relay very very bad!)
> >
> > If you have smtp authentication enabled, then you can safely
> comment out the
> > above, as any mail not for the local machine will have to be
> authorised when
> > it enters james.
> >
> > Daniel.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jason Clark [mailto:jeclark@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: 17 February 2005 19:56
> > > To: server-user@james.apache.org
> > > Subject: queue analysis
> > >
> > >
> > > Are there any good queue analysis tools I can use to view the status
> > > of my mail queues?
> > >
> > > in postfix the mailq command give some useful information.
> > >
> > > I'm asking because I have a rule setup to:
> > >
> > > <mailet match="RecipientIs=moreinfo@hamshow.com" class="Forward">
> > > <forwardto>jeclark@gmail.com</forwardto>
> > > </mailet>
> > >
> > >
> > > I have this setup immeadiatley after : <processor name="root">
> > >
> > >
> > > there's no mention in the log that the mail was forwarded to
> > > jeclark@gmail.com, but if I look in the /var/mail/relay-denied, I look
> > > in the file XXXXXXXX.Repository.FileObjectStore and find the
> > > jeclark@gmail.com address.
> > >
> > > Any ideas why that would be? If I could at least get a bit more
> > > information out of the system, at the current time, I don't even have
> > > anything in my logs.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > jason.
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > For additional commands, e-mail: server-user-help@james.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Re: queue analysis
Posted by Jason Clark <je...@gmail.com>.
I don't really want a 'totally open relay', but I would like to
authorize a few hosts to use it as an smtp server ( similar to the way
you add an entry in the access file in sendmail )
I thought that :
<mailet match="RemoteAddrNotInNetwork=127.0.0.1,172.16.*.*" class="ToProcessor">
<processor> relay-denied </processor>
<notice>550 - Requested action not taken: relaying denied</notice>
</mailet>
would allow this to happen.
cheers,
jason.
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:08:40 -0000, Daniel Perry <d....@netcase.co.uk> wrote:
> No idea about mail analysis tools, but i think your problem is as follows:
>
> Mail comes in to: moreinfo@hamshow.com.
> Gets changed to: jeclark@gmail.com by your forwarder.
>
> Gets caught by: (assuming you have it enables)
>
> <mailet match="RemoteAddrNotInNetwork=127.0.0.1" class="ToProcessor">
> <processor> relay-denied </processor>
> <notice>550 - Requested action not taken: relaying denied</notice>
> </mailet>
>
> This mailet is there so that any mail put into the system that is not for
> local delivery, and was not put there by localhost will be denied relaying.
> (Note, open relay very very bad!)
>
> If you have smtp authentication enabled, then you can safely comment out the
> above, as any mail not for the local machine will have to be authorised when
> it enters james.
>
> Daniel.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jason Clark [mailto:jeclark@gmail.com]
> > Sent: 17 February 2005 19:56
> > To: server-user@james.apache.org
> > Subject: queue analysis
> >
> >
> > Are there any good queue analysis tools I can use to view the status
> > of my mail queues?
> >
> > in postfix the mailq command give some useful information.
> >
> > I'm asking because I have a rule setup to:
> >
> > <mailet match="RecipientIs=moreinfo@hamshow.com" class="Forward">
> > <forwardto>jeclark@gmail.com</forwardto>
> > </mailet>
> >
> >
> > I have this setup immeadiatley after : <processor name="root">
> >
> >
> > there's no mention in the log that the mail was forwarded to
> > jeclark@gmail.com, but if I look in the /var/mail/relay-denied, I look
> > in the file XXXXXXXX.Repository.FileObjectStore and find the
> > jeclark@gmail.com address.
> >
> > Any ideas why that would be? If I could at least get a bit more
> > information out of the system, at the current time, I don't even have
> > anything in my logs.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > jason.
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
> >
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RE: queue analysis
Posted by Daniel Perry <d....@netcase.co.uk>.
No idea about mail analysis tools, but i think your problem is as follows:
Mail comes in to: moreinfo@hamshow.com.
Gets changed to: jeclark@gmail.com by your forwarder.
Gets caught by: (assuming you have it enables)
<mailet match="RemoteAddrNotInNetwork=127.0.0.1" class="ToProcessor">
<processor> relay-denied </processor>
<notice>550 - Requested action not taken: relaying denied</notice>
</mailet>
This mailet is there so that any mail put into the system that is not for
local delivery, and was not put there by localhost will be denied relaying.
(Note, open relay very very bad!)
If you have smtp authentication enabled, then you can safely comment out the
above, as any mail not for the local machine will have to be authorised when
it enters james.
Daniel.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Clark [mailto:jeclark@gmail.com]
> Sent: 17 February 2005 19:56
> To: server-user@james.apache.org
> Subject: queue analysis
>
>
> Are there any good queue analysis tools I can use to view the status
> of my mail queues?
>
> in postfix the mailq command give some useful information.
>
> I'm asking because I have a rule setup to:
>
> <mailet match="RecipientIs=moreinfo@hamshow.com" class="Forward">
> <forwardto>jeclark@gmail.com</forwardto>
> </mailet>
>
>
> I have this setup immeadiatley after : <processor name="root">
>
>
> there's no mention in the log that the mail was forwarded to
> jeclark@gmail.com, but if I look in the /var/mail/relay-denied, I look
> in the file XXXXXXXX.Repository.FileObjectStore and find the
> jeclark@gmail.com address.
>
> Any ideas why that would be? If I could at least get a bit more
> information out of the system, at the current time, I don't even have
> anything in my logs.
>
> Cheers,
> jason.
>
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RE: queue analysis
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
I have not read the rest of this thread, but the easy way to watch queue
processing is realize that the queue is called the spool, and to turn on
DEBUG for the spool manager in environment.xml.
--- Noel
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