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Posted to users@cocoon.apache.org by Geoff Howard <co...@leverageweb.com> on 2003/06/18 20:30:46 UTC

Re: retaining data from a partial pipeline for subsequent requests

I've only read about 3 sentences but look into the caching point pipeline
in 2.1

Geoff

At 12:52 PM 6/18/2003, you wrote:
>hi,
>i'm evaluating cocoon to see if it suits our needs. i've used fop
>extensively before. and i know just enough of cocoon to be dangerous.
>this is kinda long but i put a lot of time in drawing in ascii to make
>it clearer; hopefully ;)
>
>the problem:
>-------------
>
>in keeping with the SOC, i have the following setup:
>
>Generators:        A          B          C          --|
>                    |          |          |            |- the data layer
>                    -----------------------            |
>                               |                       |
>Aggregation:                  D                     --|
>                               |
>Transformation:               E                     ---- the
>                               |                          business logic
>                    --------------------------       --|
>                    |        |        |      |         |- the prettfying
>Formatting:       rtf      xsl      pdf    html     --|  layer
>
>
>in the html, i refer to images (charts, which i'm generating using Fins)
>that are generated according to the data generated at E. But as they are
>subsequent requests from the browser don't have access to the data since
>the pipeline that generated the data was done and over with after
>generating the html. So, i'm left with two options:
>
>i) regenerate the data up to E:
>
>Generators:        A          B          C          --|
>                    |          |          |            |- the data layer
>                    -----------------------            |
>                               |                       |
>Aggregation:                  D                     --|
>                               |
>Transformation:               E                     ---- the
>                               |                          business logic
>                             jpg/png                 ---- the prettfying
>                                                          layer
>
>or,
>ii) save the data from the pipeline into the session (from A, B, C) when
>generating the html and use that as such:
>Generator: F (reads data from the session previously set by A,B,C) and
>generates xml to feed into the fins transformer.
>
>Current solution:
>-----------------
>as option (i) would require me to regenerate the dataset, i opted to use
>option (ii). but then, since i can only shove the data into sessions
>from an xsp (?) i only have the raw form of data from (A, B, C) in the
>session. F would then have to do what D and E does. complete breakdown
>of SOC.
>
>Wishful/hopeful thinking:
>-------------------------
>something like this would be optimal:
>
>Generators:        A          B          C
>                    |          |          |
>                    -----------------------
>                               |
>Aggregation:                  D
>                               |
>Transformation:               E ----------------- tee* --
>                               |                          |
>                    --------------------------            |
>                    |        |        |      |            |
>Formatting:       rtf      xsl      pdf    html**        |
>                                                          |
>                                                          |
>                                      formatted as a png/jpg/svg and
>                                      stored in cocoon cache using a
>                                      unique key** for the subsiquent
>                                      request
>
>*) tee as in make a copy and pass one copy to the html formatting step.
>and another to the image formatting step.
>**) the key would be predetermined so that the src element in the html
>would know which image url to put in. and another pipeline would deal
>with requests for images keyed off this way.
>
>(That does sound out of wack. told you, i know enough to be dangerous)
>
>
>
>So, the question is, how do you generate images that are referenced by
>some html when the images are another view of the data that the html is
>displaying without regenerating the data for the image generation?
>ideas?
>
>thanks in advance,
>anoop
>aaryal@foresightint.com
>
>
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