[Responsiveness report] 2013w30 (was: we like dev better then users :( )

[Daan Hoogland <da...@gmail.com>]

sure, this one allright?

On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Alex Huang <Al...@citrix.com> wrote:
> Hi Daan,
>
> Sorry I meant to subject tag your email so people who's interested in helping can easily get to them.
>
> --Alex
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 2:11 PM
>> To: dev
>> Subject: Re: we like dev better then users :(
>>
>> Alex, what do you mean by tag? Most of what I did is my personal judgement,
>> hardly any automation involved.
>>
>> I hope we can give some folow up to this. I think the dev report is useful. The
>> users report is less useful however. I am lagging a week behind. In most
>> cases people would have answered if they had the time/knowledge earlier.
>>
>> What worries me most is the tone I see in messages on the users list.
>> I report only on messages that are not answered at all. Some others I
>> happened to stumble upon are polemic rants. Of course these are not the
>> 'average' users that will go to a dev list first, before tone down their mails.
>>
>> I do not know if we are equipped to handle this properly. One thing I can do
>> is find an earlier moment next week to make my report.
>>
>> regards,
>> Daan
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Kelcey Jamison Damage <ke...@bbits.ca>
>> wrote:
>> > You can always send them over to IRC where I am. Usually it's easier to
>> handle support in real-time.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Alex Huang" <Al...@citrix.com>
>> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>> > Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 10:15:08 AM
>> > Subject: RE: we like dev better then users :(
>> >
>> > Daan,
>> >
>> > This is a great service you're providing to the community!  I will go to my
>> management and see if we can lend some support in terms of following up
>> on your list.  Do you want to tag it so if I do get some resources, we have an
>> easy way to filter in your report?
>> >
>> > --Alex
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogland@gmail.com]
>> >> Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 6:41 AM
>> >> To: dev
>> >> Subject: Re: we like dev better then users :(
>> >>
>> >> Wido, I am not urging you or anybody to keep better track of this. It
>> >> is a marketing issue. That is the only point I am trying to make. I
>> >> am notorious at not reading user lists ever, myself.
>> >>
>> >> DaanOps
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Wido den Hollander <wi...@widodh.nl>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > On 08/01/2013 03:31 PM, Daan Hoogland wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I think the following list speaks for itself
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Although it's really good that you point this out I took the
>> >> > following decision for myself: I contribute to the project by
>> >> > resolving bugs and writing new features.
>> >> >
>> >> > In my case my colleague (Lennert) is subscribed to the users list
>> >> > and he watches that and sometimes asks me to look to something.
>> >> >
>> >> > For me it's not doable to keep track of both the users and dev list
>> >> > and work on $dayjob
>> >> >
>> >> > It's about shifting priorities and for me the dev list (which is
>> >> > hard
>> >> > enough) is my main priority.
>> >> >
>> >> > Wido
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> http://markmail.org/message/ap42zplnpenniqtd can't create VM after
>> >> >> upgrade from 3.0.2 to 4,1. Error Code: 533 Error text: Unable to
>> >> >> create a deploymentfor VM by William Jiang
>> >> >> http://markmail.org/message/wxe6oktgtxtvg6uk Setting up
>> networking
>> >> on
>> >> >> single machine by Philip Andrews
>> >> >> http://markmail.org/message/lrenopzjshkzfxbe MuleSoft by Len
>> >> >> Bellemore http://markmail.org/message/vicznsksl5k33uby VPC Issue
>> >> >> with CS 4.1/KVM/Openvswitch by Dinu Arateanu
>> >> >> http://markmail.org/message/nqw3abaplbzgutwz AMI Import
>> questions
>> >> by
>> >> >> Carlos Reategui http://markmail.org/message/ny7wi4hpufe6j7wb
>> >> windows
>> >> >> vm lost static ip config after xe-tools upgrade from 6.0.2 to 6.1
>> >> >> by William Jiang http://markmail.org/message/camfk7jrekuzy2ge
>> >> >> Cloud capacity by Jerry Jiang
>> >> >> http://markmail.org/message/apnzuex65qcijegl
>> >> >> vms hang in expunged state by Valery Ciareszka
>> >> >> http://markmail.org/message/apkldlvxvq2u2yvm few orphan disk on
>> >> >> primary storage (CS v3) by Pierre Benard
>> >> >> http://markmail.org/message/to5zyb3k6z6hd3sg ESXI support by
>> >> >> Chitra Manjunath http://markmail.org/message/23ga4bseph6ruh4x
>> >> >> ClassCastException for Virtual Routers in Zones using Adv
>> >> >> Networking by Boyer, Marc
>> >> >>
>> >> >> regards,
>> >> >> Daan
>> >> >>
>> >> >