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Posted to modperl@perl.apache.org by Tyler Bird <bi...@epromo.com> on 2007/10/24 18:26:24 UTC
mod_perl MVC framework.
Hi List,
Hey I was wondering if there was any MVC framework that anybody on this
list could point
me to that work work well with mod_perl.
We are having difficulty finding a good MVC framework for perl.
I have looked at HTML::Mason and the template toolkit today.
I am not quite sure mason is a MVC framework. The template toolkit
looks promising.
Tyler
Re: mod_perl MVC framework.
Posted by gautam chekuri <ga...@gmail.com>.
Catalyst is a MVC framework we can use with mod_perl
http://www.catalystframework.org/
On 10/24/07, Tyler Bird <bi...@epromo.com> wrote:
> Hi List,
>
> Hey I was wondering if there was any MVC framework that anybody on this
> list could point
> me to that work work well with mod_perl.
>
> We are having difficulty finding a good MVC framework for perl.
>
> I have looked at HTML::Mason and the template toolkit today.
> I am not quite sure mason is a MVC framework. The template toolkit
> looks promising.
>
> Tyler
>
Re: mod_perl MVC framework.
Posted by ad...@utoronto.ca.
there's a list here:
http://perl.apache.org/products/app-server.html
Adam
Quoting Tyler Bird <bi...@epromo.com>:
> Hi List,
>
> Hey I was wondering if there was any MVC framework that anybody on this
> list could point
> me to that work work well with mod_perl.
>
> We are having difficulty finding a good MVC framework for perl.
>
> I have looked at HTML::Mason and the template toolkit today. I am not
> quite sure mason is a MVC framework. The template toolkit looks
> promising.
>
> Tyler
Re: mod_perl MVC framework.
Posted by Juan Jose Natera <na...@gmail.com>.
Hi Tyler
> We are having difficulty finding a good MVC framework for perl.
>
> I have looked at HTML::Mason and the template toolkit today.
> I am not quite sure mason is a MVC framework. The template toolkit
> looks promising.
Neither TT or Mason are MVC frameworks, but they can be used to
provide the V(iew) in MVC.
What you're looking for is one of the following, in no particular order:
Catalyst
Jifty
CGI::Application
CGI::Prototype
And even then, you will most likely end up using TT or Mason for the view.
regards,
Juan Natera
Re: mod_perl MVC framework.
Posted by Aaron Trevena <aa...@gmail.com>.
On 24/10/2007, Tyler Bird <bi...@epromo.com> wrote:
> We are having difficulty finding a good MVC framework for perl.
Um...? There are an abundance, listed in CPAN, articles about them are
on perl.com, and the mod_perl page has a list.
> I have looked at HTML::Mason and the template toolkit today.
> I am not quite sure mason is a MVC framework. The template toolkit
> looks promising.
I would definately recomend TT as part of an Application / MVC
framework, it is especially well suited to working with an MVC
Framework - using Mason could be confusing as it provides it's own way
of doing things done by the MVC application.
Given everybody else voting for their favourite I'll mention Maypole,
but then I'm biased :)
A.
--
http://www.aarontrevena.co.uk
LAMP System Integration, Development and Hosting
RE: mod_perl MVC framework.
Posted by James Harvey <jh...@yahoo-inc.com>.
The way the cool kids do it is to use
CGI::Application in conjunction with HTML::Template.
http://cgiapp.erlbaum.net/
Haven't done it myself, used HTML::Mason last time, which isn't true
MVC.
James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Foo JH [mailto:jhfoo-ml@extracktor.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 7:37 PM
> To: Tyler Bird
> Cc: modperl@perl.apache.org
> Subject: Re: mod_perl MVC framework.
>
> What is fast to cook, good to eat is HTML::Template. No XML, easy
> abstraction between your web designer and developer.
>
> Tyler Bird wrote:
> > Hi List,
> >
> > Hey I was wondering if there was any MVC framework that anybody on
> > this list could point
> > me to that work work well with mod_perl.
> >
> > We are having difficulty finding a good MVC framework for perl.
> >
> > I have looked at HTML::Mason and the template toolkit today. I am
not
> > quite sure mason is a MVC framework. The template toolkit looks
> > promising.
> >
> > Tyler
Re: mod_perl MVC framework.
Posted by Carl Johnstone <mo...@fadetoblack.me.uk>.
> TAL does have a downside- as do all the other templating languages -
> they've all alllowed feature creep to turn them into micro-languages or
> processing languages.
I wouldn't necessarily say that's a bad thing - sometimes the view does have
to be more complicated, and if your templating language isn't up to it then
you end up inter-mingling code and HTML.
Another vote here for Catalyst, we're running web sites for around 18
regional UK newspapers using it. Amongst the models we use DBIx::Class for
DB access, and for view TT.
Carl
Re: mod_perl MVC framework.
Posted by Jonathan Vanasco <jv...@2xlp.com>.
On Oct 24, 2007, at 10:37 PM, Foo JH wrote:
> What is fast to cook, good to eat is HTML::Template. No XML, easy
> abstraction between your web designer and developer.
I GREATLY prefer using TAL ( in perl using Petal ) for the V
someone finally made an integration for Petal and Catalyst.
unfortunately I've build my own MVC since then
I like TAL because its cross platform - its easy to offload urls into
php or python and reuse all of your templates
TAL does have a downside- as do all the other templating languages -
they've all alllowed feature creep to turn them into micro-languages
or processing languages.
Whatever you use, MAKE SURE you keep as much of the convenience
code / templater speciific text out of your templates. That stuff is
neat and useful, but it blends designer and programmer way too much.
It will drive you insane.
Re: mod_perl MVC framework.
Posted by Adrian Howard <ad...@quietstars.com>.
On 25 Oct 2007, at 03:37, Foo JH wrote:
> What is fast to cook, good to eat is HTML::Template. No XML, easy
> abstraction between your web designer and developer.
[snip]
And like TT2 is just the V bit of MVC
Adrian
Re: mod_perl MVC framework.
Posted by Foo JH <jh...@extracktor.com>.
What is fast to cook, good to eat is HTML::Template. No XML, easy
abstraction between your web designer and developer.
Tyler Bird wrote:
> Hi List,
>
> Hey I was wondering if there was any MVC framework that anybody on
> this list could point
> me to that work work well with mod_perl.
>
> We are having difficulty finding a good MVC framework for perl.
>
> I have looked at HTML::Mason and the template toolkit today. I am not
> quite sure mason is a MVC framework. The template toolkit looks
> promising.
>
> Tyler
Re: mod_perl MVC framework.
Posted by Mark Blackman <ma...@blackmans.org>.
On 24 Oct 2007, at 17:26, Tyler Bird wrote:
> Hi List,
>
> Hey I was wondering if there was any MVC framework that anybody on
> this list could point
> me to that work work well with mod_perl.
>
> We are having difficulty finding a good MVC framework for perl.
>
> I have looked at HTML::Mason and the template toolkit today. I am
> not quite sure mason is a MVC framework. The template toolkit
> looks promising.
TT is only the view part really, you want Catalyst. trust me. :)
http://www.catalystframework.org/
-Mark
>
> Tyler
Re: mod_perl MVC framework.
Posted by Frank Wiles <fr...@wiles.org>.
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:26:24 -0600
Tyler Bird <bi...@epromo.com> wrote:
> Hi List,
>
> Hey I was wondering if there was any MVC framework that anybody on
> this list could point
> me to that work work well with mod_perl.
>
> We are having difficulty finding a good MVC framework for perl.
>
> I have looked at HTML::Mason and the template toolkit today.
> I am not quite sure mason is a MVC framework. The template toolkit
> looks promising.
While everyone has already mentioned Catalyst, I thought I'd
suggest Gantry as well ( www.usegantry.org ) as another MVC
framework. But I'm a bit biased as I had a hand in creating
it! :)
Gantry is very similar to Catalyst, but the biggest differences
is in the sister projects of Bigtop and Tentmaker that drastically
reduce the amount of time needed to create simple CRUD style apps.
-------------------------------------------------------
Frank Wiles, Revolution Systems, LLC.
Personal : frank@wiles.org http://www.wiles.org
Work : frank@revsys.com http://www.revsys.com
Re: mod_perl MVC framework.
Posted by Mystere Magoo <gi...@free.fr>.
Le Wednesday 24 October 2007 18:26:24 Tyler Bird, vous avez écrit :
> Hi List,
>
> Hey I was wondering if there was any MVC framework that anybody on this
> list could point
> me to that work work well with mod_perl.
>
> We are having difficulty finding a good MVC framework for perl.
>
> I have looked at HTML::Mason and the template toolkit today.
> I am not quite sure mason is a MVC framework. The template toolkit
> looks promising.
>
> Tyler
Nobody using OpenInteract2...
With it you can use the template system you like TT2 or HTML::Template.
or others if you implement a new generator.
I18N is included,
You can easly separate your application in package, with external code
checker, and installer.
It comes with user, user group , statics html pages, observers, news,
themes/user managment, simple CRUD based on sql table, and fulltext search.
The native database class managment is SPOPS, including class with
relationships generation and security generation based on permission of
user/group/world owner , for the access to your database tables.
OpenInteract2 offers CommunAction to manipulate your datas, within callback
mecanism for customization in your new builtin package.
The CPAN version works under mod_perl1, it would be easy to port it to mp2.
But it still a dev release.
Gilles
Re: mod_perl MVC framework.
Posted by David Kaufman <da...@gigawatt.com>.
"Tyler Bird" <bi...@epromo.com> wrote...
> Hi List,
Hi Tyler,
> Hey I was wondering if there was any MVC framework that anybody on this
> list could point me to that work work well with mod_perl.
>
> We are having difficulty finding a good MVC framework for perl.
/me points you to -> CGI::Application
http://search.cpan.org/search?query=CGI::Application
hth,
-dav
RE: mod_perl MVC framework.
Posted by Peter Lytle <pe...@bluecampaigns.com>.
I'll throw in another vote for Catalyst as well - switched some apps to it a
few months ago, and I have been extremely happy with it since. It is an
outstanding piece of work.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: Tyler Bird [mailto:birdty@epromo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 12:26 PM
To: modperl@perl.apache.org
Subject: mod_perl MVC framework.
Hi List,
Hey I was wondering if there was any MVC framework that anybody on this list
could point me to that work work well with mod_perl.
We are having difficulty finding a good MVC framework for perl.
I have looked at HTML::Mason and the template toolkit today.
I am not quite sure mason is a MVC framework. The template toolkit looks
promising.
Tyler