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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by janI <ja...@apache.org> on 2012/12/24 12:50:12 UTC
[mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours !!!!
Hi.
I have taken wiki.openoffice.org, down for a db maintenance.
Jan I.
Re: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours !!!!
Posted by janI <ja...@apache.org>.
Hi Pedro.
Today infra does backup using the standard mysql procedures.
Thanks for the advice, I will look in the archives to see the argument, but
it is quite a work to change db, so in order to change there need to be a
better reason than just backup.
have a nice day
Jan I.
On 24 December 2012 20:45, Pedro Giffuni <pf...@apache.org> wrote:
> FWIW;
>
> One of the suggestions from Terry E was moving from MySQL to PostgreSQL,
> which offered advantages for doing proper backups. My memory is sketchy so
> you may want to dig up the details in the archives.
>
> Pedro.
>
>
>
>
> >________________________________
> > Da: janI <ja...@apache.org>
> >A: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> >Inviato: Lunedì 24 Dicembre 2012 6:50
> >Oggetto: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours
> !!!!
> >
> >Hi.
> >
> >I have taken wiki.openoffice.org, down for a db maintenance.
> >
> >Jan I.
> >
> >
> >
>
Re: Moving content between CWiki and MWiki (was Re: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours !!!!)
Posted by Pedro Giffuni <pf...@apache.org>.
>________________________________
> Da: janI
>
>On 26 December 2012 16:47, Pedro Giffuni <pf...@apache.org> wrote:
>
...
>
>>We do have licensing issues with the content of both the wiki and the website.
>>If you check the lengthy discussion we had about it you will find that the
>>documentation is mostly licensed under PDL. As I said it's a can of worms,
>>but it doesn't mean we won't have to open it.
>>
>Now I get it, I thought you meant the mediawiki general license.
> There are for sure bigger issues with the general content, also according to
> our ICLA we cannot simply copy it.
>
The issue is the SUN contribution agreement for that content was that was
under "Public Documentation License" by default, or alternatively under PD
or some CC- copyleft.
We can probably get some of that stuff relicensed but this is not usually
covered by a SGA. It's a can of worms :(.
>>
>>It limits my ability to contribute to the MediaWiki content as it seems the wiki
>>is unconnected to the rest of Apache. I think it's something that can be solved:
>>my understanding is that accepting LDAP doesn't exclude volunteers from using
>>the existing authentication accounts.
>>
>well I am right now doing my best to connect it better to apache, LDAP is one
> small step, which I am actually sitting right now and reading about. Other things
> are the monitoring and other infra stuff, where I help out a bit.
>
Let me clarify this: you are doing a GREAT job. Updating the MediaWiki software
was indeed a requirement for infra@ if MWiki is going to stay.
I personally don't want to spend holiday time thinking about documentation or MWikis :).
Keep up the good work!
Pedro.
Re: Moving content between CWiki and MWiki (was Re: [mwiki] IS DOWN
FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours !!!!)
Posted by janI <ja...@apache.org>.
On 26 December 2012 16:47, Pedro Giffuni <pf...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
> > Da: janI
>
> >>
> >> From a licensing perspective the MWiki content is a can of worms.
> >> This may or may not be important as this is not included in releases
> >> but the general consensus was to keep the MWiki content contained
> >> and only accept ALv2 content from now on.
> >>
> >
> > We should have put our ALv2 license in place long time ago, there is a
> > separate policy page for that. That has not happened and therefore all
> > content is totally without any license (except of course those that have
> > explecitly written something). Please do not mix the mediawiki license
> with
> > the contents license.
> >
>
> The MediaWiki software license is not a problem, just like the CWiki
> license
> is not a problem.
>
correct !
>
> We do have licensing issues with the content of both the wiki and the
> website.
> If you check the lengthy discussion we had about it you will find that the
> documentation is mostly licensed under PDL. As I said it's a can of worms,
> but it doesn't mean we won't have to open it.
>
Now I get it, I thought you meant the mediawiki general license. There are
for sure bigger issues with the general content, also according to our ICLA
we cannot simply copy it.
>
>
> > As far as I can judge (but I am no expert) mwiki provides more facilities
> > than cwiki in respect of graphics, and in the discussion (see earlier
> mail
> > thread) everybody seemed convinced that mwiki was the future and cwiki
> was
> > old (I cannot judge those statements).
> >
>
> Absolutely. MediaWiki is superior to CWiki,
>
> >
> >>
> >> There is also a huge -1 in the current MWiki for me: if MWiki is
> >> here to stay ldap access must be enabled so that committers
> >> have access to it without opening a new account.
> >>
> > I cannot agree more about ldap access...but I actually had the same
> problem
> > with cwiki, we are not all committers !!
> >
> > When I consider the user base is about 6.200 (after spam removal) and
> only
> > a small fraction are committers, I would place ldap as important, but a
> > reason for a -1.
> >
>
> It limits my ability to contribute to the MediaWiki content as it seems
> the wiki
> is unconnected to the rest of Apache. I think it's something that can be
> solved:
> my understanding is that accepting LDAP doesn't exclude volunteers from
> using
> the existing authentication accounts.
>
well I am right now doing my best to connect it better to apache, LDAP is
one small step, which I am actually sitting right now and reading about.
Other things are the monitoring and other infra stuff, where I help out a
bit.
If you have other ideas how to connect mwiki and apache, then I am all open
ears (or more correctly eyes).
>
> It's a -1 for me but I am not saying it's binding.
>
In Denmark we once had a prime minister who said "you have a stand until
you make a new one" :-) and as I said I am just listening,
>
> Pedro.
>
Re: Moving content between CWiki and MWiki (was Re: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours !!!!)
Posted by Pedro Giffuni <pf...@apache.org>.
> Da: janI
>>
>> From a licensing perspective the MWiki content is a can of worms.
>> This may or may not be important as this is not included in releases
>> but the general consensus was to keep the MWiki content contained
>> and only accept ALv2 content from now on.
>>
>
> We should have put our ALv2 license in place long time ago, there is a
> separate policy page for that. That has not happened and therefore all
> content is totally without any license (except of course those that have
> explecitly written something). Please do not mix the mediawiki license with
> the contents license.
>
The MediaWiki software license is not a problem, just like the CWiki license
is not a problem.
We do have licensing issues with the content of both the wiki and the website.
If you check the lengthy discussion we had about it you will find that the
documentation is mostly licensed under PDL. As I said it's a can of worms,
but it doesn't mean we won't have to open it.
> As far as I can judge (but I am no expert) mwiki provides more facilities
> than cwiki in respect of graphics, and in the discussion (see earlier mail
> thread) everybody seemed convinced that mwiki was the future and cwiki was
> old (I cannot judge those statements).
>
Absolutely. MediaWiki is superior to CWiki,
>
>>
>> There is also a huge -1 in the current MWiki for me: if MWiki is
>> here to stay ldap access must be enabled so that committers
>> have access to it without opening a new account.
>>
> I cannot agree more about ldap access...but I actually had the same problem
> with cwiki, we are not all committers !!
>
> When I consider the user base is about 6.200 (after spam removal) and only
> a small fraction are committers, I would place ldap as important, but a
> reason for a -1.
>
It limits my ability to contribute to the MediaWiki content as it seems the wiki
is unconnected to the rest of Apache. I think it's something that can be solved:
my understanding is that accepting LDAP doesn't exclude volunteers from using
the existing authentication accounts.
It's a -1 for me but I am not saying it's binding.
Pedro.
Re: Moving content between CWiki and MWiki (was Re: [mwiki] IS DOWN
FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours !!!!)
Posted by janI <ja...@apache.org>.
On 26 December 2012 16:12, Pedro Giffuni <pf...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > Da: janI
> ...
> >Oggetto: Re: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of
> hours !!!!
> >
> >@pedro: thx, that can save quite some time if it works.
> >
> >@dave: nice to know that you are admin, so you can help provide e.g. a
> list
> >of pages.
> >
>
> Two things here:
>
> The conversor is one way only: to CWiki. Conversion is known to be
> imperfect
> and a lot of content would be lost. OTOH, it is also understood that a lot
> of
> MWiki content is obsolete and needs to be cleaned out anyway.
>
ok so we cannot use this if we go the mwiki way.
>
> For conversion of the math stuff the documentation of the plugin states
> that
> CWiki could be helped by the use of a latex plugin.
>
>
> >We had a discussion a while ago about moving the cwiki content, once the
> >mwiki was upgraded, so I guess now is about the right time to take a
> >decision. I will initiate that shortly.
> >
>
> From a licensing perspective the MWiki content is a can of worms.
> This may or may not be important as this is not included in releases
> but the general consensus was to keep the MWiki content contained
> and only accept ALv2 content from now on.
>
We should have put our ALv2 license in place long time ago, there is a
separate policy page for that. That has not happened and therefore all
content is totally without any license (except of course those that have
explecitly written something). Please do not mix the mediawiki license with
the contents license.
As far as I can judge (but I am no expert) mwiki provides more facilities
than cwiki in respect of graphics, and in the discussion (see earlier mail
thread) everybody seemed convinced that mwiki was the future and cwiki was
old (I cannot judge those statements).
>
> There is also a huge -1 in the current MWiki for me: if MWiki is
> here to stay ldap access must be enabled so that committers
> have access to it without opening a new account.
>
I cannot agree more about ldap access...but I actually had the same problem
with cwiki, we are not all committers !!
When I consider the user base is about 6.200 (after spam removal) and only
a small fraction are committers, I would place ldap as important, but a
reason for a -1.
>
> Just thought I'd point those things out :)
>
It is good to hear opinions that is why we have the mailing lists. As for
me I just maintain it and are no huge contributor, so in my opinion let
those who makes lots of content decide.
Jan I.
>
> Pedro.
>
>
Moving content between CWiki and MWiki (was Re: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours !!!!)
Posted by Pedro Giffuni <pf...@apache.org>.
>
> Da: janI
...
>Oggetto: Re: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours !!!!
>
>@pedro: thx, that can save quite some time if it works.
>
>@dave: nice to know that you are admin, so you can help provide e.g. a list
>of pages.
>
Two things here:
The conversor is one way only: to CWiki. Conversion is known to be imperfect
and a lot of content would be lost. OTOH, it is also understood that a lot of
MWiki content is obsolete and needs to be cleaned out anyway.
For conversion of the math stuff the documentation of the plugin states that
CWiki could be helped by the use of a latex plugin.
>We had a discussion a while ago about moving the cwiki content, once the
>mwiki was upgraded, so I guess now is about the right time to take a
>decision. I will initiate that shortly.
>
From a licensing perspective the MWiki content is a can of worms.
This may or may not be important as this is not included in releases
but the general consensus was to keep the MWiki content contained
and only accept ALv2 content from now on.
There is also a huge -1 in the current MWiki for me: if MWiki is
here to stay ldap access must be enabled so that committers
have access to it without opening a new account.
Just thought I'd point those things out :)
Pedro.
Re: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours !!!!
Posted by janI <ja...@apache.org>.
@pedro: thx, that can save quite some time if it works.
@dave: nice to know that you are admin, so you can help provide e.g. a list
of pages.
We had a discussion a while ago about moving the cwiki content, once the
mwiki was upgraded, so I guess now is about the right time to take a
decision. I will initiate that shortly.
Jan I.
On 26 December 2012 05:32, Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 25, 2012, at 7:22 PM, Pedro Giffuni <pf...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > FWIW;
> >
> > It also came to my memory that there was the idea to attempt merging
> > at least some of the documentation from MWiki to CWiki by using this
> > plugin:
> >
> >
> https://studio.plugins.atlassian.com/wiki/display/UWC/Universal+Wiki+Converter
> >
> >
> > Ultimately no one gave it a try due to lack of resources
> > (access to the db, running CWiki, I recall)
>
> The community wanted the mWiki and Terry showed up to migrate it.
>
> I do have admin karma in the cWiki if someone is interested in doing
> further development there I'll help.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > Pedro.
> >
> >
> >
> >> ________________________________
> >> Da: Pedro Giffuni <pf...@apache.org>
> >> A: "dev@openoffice.apache.org" <de...@openoffice.apache.org>
> >> Cc: janI <ja...@apache.org>
> >> Inviato: Lunedì 24 Dicembre 2012 14:45
> >> Oggetto: Re: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of
> hours !!!!
> >>
> >>
> >> FWIW;
> >>
> >>
> >> One of the suggestions from Terry E was moving from MySQL to PostgreSQL,
> >> which offered advantages for doing proper backups. My memory is sketchy
> so
> >> you may want to dig up the details in the archives.
> >>
> >>
> >> Pedro.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> Da: janI <ja...@apache.org>
> >>> A: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> >>> Inviato: Lunedì 24 Dicembre 2012 6:50
> >>> Oggetto: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of
> hours !!!!
> >>>
> >>> Hi.
> >>>
> >>> I have taken wiki.openoffice.org, down for a db maintenance.
> >>>
> >>> Jan I.
> >>
>
Re: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours !!!!
Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 25, 2012, at 7:22 PM, Pedro Giffuni <pf...@apache.org> wrote:
> FWIW;
>
> It also came to my memory that there was the idea to attempt merging
> at least some of the documentation from MWiki to CWiki by using this
> plugin:
>
> https://studio.plugins.atlassian.com/wiki/display/UWC/Universal+Wiki+Converter
>
>
> Ultimately no one gave it a try due to lack of resources
> (access to the db, running CWiki, I recall)
The community wanted the mWiki and Terry showed up to migrate it.
I do have admin karma in the cWiki if someone is interested in doing further development there I'll help.
Regards,
Dave
>
> cheers,
>
> Pedro.
>
>
>
>> ________________________________
>> Da: Pedro Giffuni <pf...@apache.org>
>> A: "dev@openoffice.apache.org" <de...@openoffice.apache.org>
>> Cc: janI <ja...@apache.org>
>> Inviato: Lunedì 24 Dicembre 2012 14:45
>> Oggetto: Re: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours !!!!
>>
>>
>> FWIW;
>>
>>
>> One of the suggestions from Terry E was moving from MySQL to PostgreSQL,
>> which offered advantages for doing proper backups. My memory is sketchy so
>> you may want to dig up the details in the archives.
>>
>>
>> Pedro.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> Da: janI <ja...@apache.org>
>>> A: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>> Inviato: Lunedì 24 Dicembre 2012 6:50
>>> Oggetto: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours !!!!
>>>
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> I have taken wiki.openoffice.org, down for a db maintenance.
>>>
>>> Jan I.
>>
Re: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours !!!!
Posted by Pedro Giffuni <pf...@apache.org>.
FWIW;
It also came to my memory that there was the idea to attempt merging
at least some of the documentation from MWiki to CWiki by using this
plugin:
https://studio.plugins.atlassian.com/wiki/display/UWC/Universal+Wiki+Converter
Ultimately no one gave it a try due to lack of resources
(access to the db, running CWiki, I recall)
cheers,
Pedro.
>________________________________
> Da: Pedro Giffuni <pf...@apache.org>
>A: "dev@openoffice.apache.org" <de...@openoffice.apache.org>
>Cc: janI <ja...@apache.org>
>Inviato: Lunedì 24 Dicembre 2012 14:45
>Oggetto: Re: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours !!!!
>
>
>FWIW;
>
>
>One of the suggestions from Terry E was moving from MySQL to PostgreSQL,
>which offered advantages for doing proper backups. My memory is sketchy so
>you may want to dig up the details in the archives.
>
>
>Pedro.
>
>
>
>
>
>>________________________________
>> Da: janI <ja...@apache.org>
>>A: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>Inviato: Lunedì 24 Dicembre 2012 6:50
>>Oggetto: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours !!!!
>>
>>Hi.
>>
>>I have taken wiki.openoffice.org, down for a db maintenance.
>>
>>Jan I.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours !!!!
Posted by Pedro Giffuni <pf...@apache.org>.
FWIW;
One of the suggestions from Terry E was moving from MySQL to PostgreSQL,
which offered advantages for doing proper backups. My memory is sketchy so
you may want to dig up the details in the archives.
Pedro.
>________________________________
> Da: janI <ja...@apache.org>
>A: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>Inviato: Lunedì 24 Dicembre 2012 6:50
>Oggetto: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours !!!!
>
>Hi.
>
>I have taken wiki.openoffice.org, down for a db maintenance.
>
>Jan I.
>
>
>
Re: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours
!!!!
Posted by helen <he...@gmail.com>.
Jan, thank you.
It's all right.
--
Regards,
Helen
25.12.2012 20:14, janI пишет:
> @helen:
>
> I have updated page titles to utf8, so that should be ok.
>
> I do have a problem with category names, when I convert them they are
> non-unique, which they have to be.
>
> I have tried to convert as many as possible, but it might be that you have
> to change a couple by hand.
>
> I cannot judge it really, but the pages seem better now, what do you think ?
>
>
> @tj see below
> On 25 December 2012 14:41, TJ Frazier <tj...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> On 12/25/2012 08:05, janI wrote:
>>
>>> On 25 December 2012 13:22, TJ Frazier <tj...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/25/2012 04:03, janI wrote:
>>>> HI Tj and Helen.
>>>>> First please bear over with me, it is x-mas morning, and my head is not
>>>>> fully operational :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me explain:
>>>>> we are actually running on the test system, I have a link for production
>>>>> that I can switch to different directories, and I simply pointed it at
>>>>> test
>>>>> (which makes it easy to switch back).
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course I also updated the DB.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> @Tj:
>>>>> I see your problem, that is a security issue I did not see comming :-(
>>>>>
>>>>> You tested the editor in test, can you confirm that it had no problems ?
>>>>>
>>>>> @Helen:
>>>>>
>>>>> This has to do with the UTF8 conversion, I understood from the previous
>>>>> mails that it worked on wikitest...and I just tested a couple of pages
>>>>> (in
>>>>> russian), which to be honest I did not understand, but the looked like
>>>>> the
>>>>> old wiki :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I can do the UTF8 conversion, pn text and pages in the live system, but
>>>>> I
>>>>> have my children visiting, so it will take a couple of days.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If any of you (on anybody else with a serious reason) request that I
>>>>> roll
>>>>> back I wil do it by restoring the db backup from yesterday and
>>>>> activating
>>>>> the old code...please advice quickly in order not to loose too many
>>>>> changes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a nice day, and thanks for advicing me.
>>>>> Jan I.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Hi, Jan, Helen,
>>>>
>>>> *UTF8*: It seems we have some scattered conversion problems in this area.
>>>> The big question is, how many? The "Unused files" special page is showing
>>>> strange entries for the first few items, too; the names look like what
>>>> I'd
>>>> expect from double conversion.
>>>>
>>>> @Helen: can you give us a better idea of how big the problem is? Cyrillic
>>>> is "Greek to me" (="unknown"), too. I am assuming that this would be
>>>> important, for going back or going forward.
>>>>
>>>> Helen told me off list, that we should go ahead and fix iit in the live
>>> version, but your comments make me a bit nervous, so yes I also would like
>>> a "damage estimate". I have not run the UTF8 conversion script we got, so
>>> that might solve the whole problem.
>>>
>>> I see in a later note that you are doing this. Good; I think we need it.
>>
>>>> *Editor*: Loading the toolbar has always been a two-step process: the
>>>> first part is initially visible, then the rest of the icons load quickly
>>>> but visibly later. (I'd love to know more about what's going on here,
>>>> because I'd love to add an icon to the list: <tt>TEXT HERE</tt>,
>>>> something
>>>> I use frequently.) I think (but cannot confirm) that it was working on
>>>> testwiki. I did do a little editing on testwiki, so I should have noticed
>>>> the glitch, but maybe I didn't.
>>>>
>>>> Please have a look now, I added "WikiEditor" instead of the default,
>>> because it has some issues with the seconds part icons and are not easy
>>> extendable.
>>>
>>> Look in mediawiki, there are examples on how to extend the icons, you can
>>> do it for your user, and once it works I can include them.
>>>
>>>
>>> "WikiEdditor" looks good to me, and seems to work fine. I will
>> investigate extending the icons.
>>
>>
>>>> *Category for Speedy Deletion*: Jan, you deleted this category. Granted,
>>>> it was empty at the time, but we sysops chase and delete pages that show
>>>> up
>>>> here. This is how non-sysops request page deletion, by adding the
>>>> template,
>>>> {{delete|explanation}} to the page. Then a sysop looks at the page and
>>>> the
>>>> reason, and acts accordingly: deletes the page or removes the template,
>>>> and
>>>> explains why in the summary.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, there was not comment like in the russian pages. Can you please
>>> make
>>> it again, and put a comment in there.
>>>
>>> Done.
>>
>>>> Most of the users who would request such a thing are now sysops, and can
>>>> do their own deletions, but even there, they might want a second
>>>> opinion. I
>>>> suggest that this method is worth keeping. Therefore, I have re-created
>>>> the
>>>> category.
>>>>
>>>> Agree, but please put a note like "to not delete even if empty" for
>>> future
>>> admins :-)
>>>
>>> Done.
>> Concentrating on the glitches, I have failed to mention that most of the
>> new setup looks wonderful. It was a lot of work, and we are most grateful
>> for your attention.
> thx for the nice words, it was really a big job...but hopefully it is
> comming to a pause and in the meantime I can concentrate on the pootle
> server.
>
>
>> /tj/
>>
>>>> /tj/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 25 December 2012 04:54, Helen russian <he...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello all.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Russian characters are damaged in the page names and in the category
>>>>>> names.
>>>>>> Please look at http://wiki.openoffice.org/****wiki/Category:RU<http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Category:RU>
>>>>>> <http://wiki.**openoffice.org/wiki/Category:**RU<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:RU>
>>>>>> Look also at other names: http<http://wiki.openoffice.**
>>>>>> org/wiki/Category:AR <http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Category:AR<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:AR>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/****Category:AR<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/**Category:AR>
>>>>> <http://wiki.**openoffice.org/wiki/Category:**AR<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:AR>
>>>>>> <http://wiki.**openoffice.org/**wiki/Category:**AR<http://openoffice.org/wiki/Category:**AR>
>>>>>> <http://**wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/**Category:AR<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:AR>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Helen
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2012/12/25 janI <ja...@apache.org>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Tj.
>>>>>>> I have no problem with the editor tool bar ? or did I misunderstand
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>> (see attachment)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wikitest is not active at the moment, because I have switches 1.20.2
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> production.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rgds
>>>>>>> Jan I.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 24 December 2012 20:47, TJ Frazier <tj...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/24/2012 06:50, janI wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have taken wiki.openoffice.org, down for a db maintenance.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jan I.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jan,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm seeing a problem with the editor tool bar. Tried to check it out
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> testwiki, but got a 403.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> /tj/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Helen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
Re: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours !!!!
Posted by janI <ja...@apache.org>.
@helen:
I have updated page titles to utf8, so that should be ok.
I do have a problem with category names, when I convert them they are
non-unique, which they have to be.
I have tried to convert as many as possible, but it might be that you have
to change a couple by hand.
I cannot judge it really, but the pages seem better now, what do you think ?
@tj see below
On 25 December 2012 14:41, TJ Frazier <tj...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> On 12/25/2012 08:05, janI wrote:
>
>> On 25 December 2012 13:22, TJ Frazier <tj...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 12/25/2012 04:03, janI wrote:
>>>
>>> HI Tj and Helen.
>>>>
>>>> First please bear over with me, it is x-mas morning, and my head is not
>>>> fully operational :-)
>>>>
>>>> Let me explain:
>>>> we are actually running on the test system, I have a link for production
>>>> that I can switch to different directories, and I simply pointed it at
>>>> test
>>>> (which makes it easy to switch back).
>>>>
>>>> Of course I also updated the DB.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> @Tj:
>>>> I see your problem, that is a security issue I did not see comming :-(
>>>>
>>>> You tested the editor in test, can you confirm that it had no problems ?
>>>>
>>>> @Helen:
>>>>
>>>> This has to do with the UTF8 conversion, I understood from the previous
>>>> mails that it worked on wikitest...and I just tested a couple of pages
>>>> (in
>>>> russian), which to be honest I did not understand, but the looked like
>>>> the
>>>> old wiki :-)
>>>>
>>>> I can do the UTF8 conversion, pn text and pages in the live system, but
>>>> I
>>>> have my children visiting, so it will take a couple of days.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If any of you (on anybody else with a serious reason) request that I
>>>> roll
>>>> back I wil do it by restoring the db backup from yesterday and
>>>> activating
>>>> the old code...please advice quickly in order not to loose too many
>>>> changes.
>>>>
>>>> Have a nice day, and thanks for advicing me.
>>>> Jan I.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hi, Jan, Helen,
>>>
>>> *UTF8*: It seems we have some scattered conversion problems in this area.
>>> The big question is, how many? The "Unused files" special page is showing
>>> strange entries for the first few items, too; the names look like what
>>> I'd
>>> expect from double conversion.
>>>
>>> @Helen: can you give us a better idea of how big the problem is? Cyrillic
>>> is "Greek to me" (="unknown"), too. I am assuming that this would be
>>> important, for going back or going forward.
>>>
>>> Helen told me off list, that we should go ahead and fix iit in the live
>> version, but your comments make me a bit nervous, so yes I also would like
>> a "damage estimate". I have not run the UTF8 conversion script we got, so
>> that might solve the whole problem.
>>
>> I see in a later note that you are doing this. Good; I think we need it.
>
>
>>> *Editor*: Loading the toolbar has always been a two-step process: the
>>> first part is initially visible, then the rest of the icons load quickly
>>> but visibly later. (I'd love to know more about what's going on here,
>>> because I'd love to add an icon to the list: <tt>TEXT HERE</tt>,
>>> something
>>> I use frequently.) I think (but cannot confirm) that it was working on
>>> testwiki. I did do a little editing on testwiki, so I should have noticed
>>> the glitch, but maybe I didn't.
>>>
>>> Please have a look now, I added "WikiEditor" instead of the default,
>> because it has some issues with the seconds part icons and are not easy
>> extendable.
>>
>> Look in mediawiki, there are examples on how to extend the icons, you can
>> do it for your user, and once it works I can include them.
>>
>>
>> "WikiEdditor" looks good to me, and seems to work fine. I will
> investigate extending the icons.
>
>
>>> *Category for Speedy Deletion*: Jan, you deleted this category. Granted,
>>> it was empty at the time, but we sysops chase and delete pages that show
>>> up
>>> here. This is how non-sysops request page deletion, by adding the
>>> template,
>>> {{delete|explanation}} to the page. Then a sysop looks at the page and
>>> the
>>> reason, and acts accordingly: deletes the page or removes the template,
>>> and
>>> explains why in the summary.
>>>
>>> Sorry, there was not comment like in the russian pages. Can you please
>> make
>> it again, and put a comment in there.
>>
>> Done.
>
>
>>
>>> Most of the users who would request such a thing are now sysops, and can
>>> do their own deletions, but even there, they might want a second
>>> opinion. I
>>> suggest that this method is worth keeping. Therefore, I have re-created
>>> the
>>> category.
>>>
>>> Agree, but please put a note like "to not delete even if empty" for
>> future
>> admins :-)
>>
>> Done.
>
> Concentrating on the glitches, I have failed to mention that most of the
> new setup looks wonderful. It was a lot of work, and we are most grateful
> for your attention.
thx for the nice words, it was really a big job...but hopefully it is
comming to a pause and in the meantime I can concentrate on the pootle
server.
>
> /tj/
>
>>
>>> /tj/
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25 December 2012 04:54, Helen russian <he...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello all.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jan,
>>>>>
>>>>> Russian characters are damaged in the page names and in the category
>>>>> names.
>>>>> Please look at http://wiki.openoffice.org/****wiki/Category:RU<http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Category:RU>
>>>>> <http://wiki.**openoffice.org/wiki/Category:**RU<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:RU>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> Look also at other names: http<http://wiki.openoffice.**
>>>>> org/wiki/Category:AR <http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Category:AR<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:AR>
>>>>> >>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/****Category:AR<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/**Category:AR>
>>>> <http://wiki.**openoffice.org/wiki/Category:**AR<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:AR>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>> <http://wiki.**openoffice.org/**wiki/Category:**AR<http://openoffice.org/wiki/Category:**AR>
>>>>> <http://**wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/**Category:AR<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:AR>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Helen
>>>>>
>>>>> 2012/12/25 janI <ja...@apache.org>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Tj.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have no problem with the editor tool bar ? or did I misunderstand
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> ?
>>>>>> (see attachment)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wikitest is not active at the moment, because I have switches 1.20.2
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> production.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rgds
>>>>>> Jan I.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24 December 2012 20:47, TJ Frazier <tj...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/24/2012 06:50, janI wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have taken wiki.openoffice.org, down for a db maintenance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jan I.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jan,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm seeing a problem with the editor tool bar. Tried to check it out
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> testwiki, but got a 403.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /tj/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Helen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours
!!!!
Posted by TJ Frazier <tj...@cfl.rr.com>.
On 12/25/2012 08:05, janI wrote:
> On 25 December 2012 13:22, TJ Frazier <tj...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> On 12/25/2012 04:03, janI wrote:
>>
>>> HI Tj and Helen.
>>>
>>> First please bear over with me, it is x-mas morning, and my head is not
>>> fully operational :-)
>>>
>>> Let me explain:
>>> we are actually running on the test system, I have a link for production
>>> that I can switch to different directories, and I simply pointed it at
>>> test
>>> (which makes it easy to switch back).
>>>
>>> Of course I also updated the DB.
>>>
>>>
>>> @Tj:
>>> I see your problem, that is a security issue I did not see comming :-(
>>>
>>> You tested the editor in test, can you confirm that it had no problems ?
>>>
>>> @Helen:
>>>
>>> This has to do with the UTF8 conversion, I understood from the previous
>>> mails that it worked on wikitest...and I just tested a couple of pages (in
>>> russian), which to be honest I did not understand, but the looked like the
>>> old wiki :-)
>>>
>>> I can do the UTF8 conversion, pn text and pages in the live system, but I
>>> have my children visiting, so it will take a couple of days.
>>>
>>>
>>> If any of you (on anybody else with a serious reason) request that I roll
>>> back I wil do it by restoring the db backup from yesterday and activating
>>> the old code...please advice quickly in order not to loose too many
>>> changes.
>>>
>>> Have a nice day, and thanks for advicing me.
>>> Jan I.
>>>
>>
>> Hi, Jan, Helen,
>>
>> *UTF8*: It seems we have some scattered conversion problems in this area.
>> The big question is, how many? The "Unused files" special page is showing
>> strange entries for the first few items, too; the names look like what I'd
>> expect from double conversion.
>>
>> @Helen: can you give us a better idea of how big the problem is? Cyrillic
>> is "Greek to me" (="unknown"), too. I am assuming that this would be
>> important, for going back or going forward.
>>
> Helen told me off list, that we should go ahead and fix iit in the live
> version, but your comments make me a bit nervous, so yes I also would like
> a "damage estimate". I have not run the UTF8 conversion script we got, so
> that might solve the whole problem.
>
I see in a later note that you are doing this. Good; I think we need it.
>>
>> *Editor*: Loading the toolbar has always been a two-step process: the
>> first part is initially visible, then the rest of the icons load quickly
>> but visibly later. (I'd love to know more about what's going on here,
>> because I'd love to add an icon to the list: <tt>TEXT HERE</tt>, something
>> I use frequently.) I think (but cannot confirm) that it was working on
>> testwiki. I did do a little editing on testwiki, so I should have noticed
>> the glitch, but maybe I didn't.
>>
> Please have a look now, I added "WikiEditor" instead of the default,
> because it has some issues with the seconds part icons and are not easy
> extendable.
>
> Look in mediawiki, there are examples on how to extend the icons, you can
> do it for your user, and once it works I can include them.
>
>
"WikiEdditor" looks good to me, and seems to work fine. I will
investigate extending the icons.
>>
>> *Category for Speedy Deletion*: Jan, you deleted this category. Granted,
>> it was empty at the time, but we sysops chase and delete pages that show up
>> here. This is how non-sysops request page deletion, by adding the template,
>> {{delete|explanation}} to the page. Then a sysop looks at the page and the
>> reason, and acts accordingly: deletes the page or removes the template, and
>> explains why in the summary.
>>
> Sorry, there was not comment like in the russian pages. Can you please make
> it again, and put a comment in there.
>
Done.
>
>>
>> Most of the users who would request such a thing are now sysops, and can
>> do their own deletions, but even there, they might want a second opinion. I
>> suggest that this method is worth keeping. Therefore, I have re-created the
>> category.
>>
> Agree, but please put a note like "to not delete even if empty" for future
> admins :-)
>
Done.
Concentrating on the glitches, I have failed to mention that most of the
new setup looks wonderful. It was a lot of work, and we are most
grateful for your attention.
/tj/
>>
>> /tj/
>>
>>
>>> On 25 December 2012 04:54, Helen russian <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all.
>>>>
>>>> Jan,
>>>>
>>>> Russian characters are damaged in the page names and in the category
>>>> names.
>>>> Please look at http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Category:RU<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:RU>
>>>>
>>>> Look also at other names: http<http://wiki.openoffice.**
>>>> org/wiki/Category:AR <http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:AR>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/**Category:AR<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:AR>
>>>> <http://wiki.**openoffice.org/wiki/Category:**AR<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:AR>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Helen
>>>>
>>>> 2012/12/25 janI <ja...@apache.org>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Tj.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have no problem with the editor tool bar ? or did I misunderstand you
>>>>> ?
>>>>> (see attachment)
>>>>>
>>>>> Wikitest is not active at the moment, because I have switches 1.20.2 to
>>>>> production.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rgds
>>>>> Jan I.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 24 December 2012 20:47, TJ Frazier <tj...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/24/2012 06:50, janI wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have taken wiki.openoffice.org, down for a db maintenance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jan I.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm seeing a problem with the editor tool bar. Tried to check it out on
>>>>>> testwiki, but got a 403.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /tj/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Helen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours !!!!
Posted by janI <ja...@apache.org>.
On 25 December 2012 13:22, TJ Frazier <tj...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> On 12/25/2012 04:03, janI wrote:
>
>> HI Tj and Helen.
>>
>> First please bear over with me, it is x-mas morning, and my head is not
>> fully operational :-)
>>
>> Let me explain:
>> we are actually running on the test system, I have a link for production
>> that I can switch to different directories, and I simply pointed it at
>> test
>> (which makes it easy to switch back).
>>
>> Of course I also updated the DB.
>>
>>
>> @Tj:
>> I see your problem, that is a security issue I did not see comming :-(
>>
>> You tested the editor in test, can you confirm that it had no problems ?
>>
>> @Helen:
>>
>> This has to do with the UTF8 conversion, I understood from the previous
>> mails that it worked on wikitest...and I just tested a couple of pages (in
>> russian), which to be honest I did not understand, but the looked like the
>> old wiki :-)
>>
>> I can do the UTF8 conversion, pn text and pages in the live system, but I
>> have my children visiting, so it will take a couple of days.
>>
>>
>> If any of you (on anybody else with a serious reason) request that I roll
>> back I wil do it by restoring the db backup from yesterday and activating
>> the old code...please advice quickly in order not to loose too many
>> changes.
>>
>> Have a nice day, and thanks for advicing me.
>> Jan I.
>>
>
> Hi, Jan, Helen,
>
> *UTF8*: It seems we have some scattered conversion problems in this area.
> The big question is, how many? The "Unused files" special page is showing
> strange entries for the first few items, too; the names look like what I'd
> expect from double conversion.
>
> @Helen: can you give us a better idea of how big the problem is? Cyrillic
> is "Greek to me" (="unknown"), too. I am assuming that this would be
> important, for going back or going forward.
>
Helen told me off list, that we should go ahead and fix iit in the live
version, but your comments make me a bit nervous, so yes I also would like
a "damage estimate". I have not run the UTF8 conversion script we got, so
that might solve the whole problem.
>
> *Editor*: Loading the toolbar has always been a two-step process: the
> first part is initially visible, then the rest of the icons load quickly
> but visibly later. (I'd love to know more about what's going on here,
> because I'd love to add an icon to the list: <tt>TEXT HERE</tt>, something
> I use frequently.) I think (but cannot confirm) that it was working on
> testwiki. I did do a little editing on testwiki, so I should have noticed
> the glitch, but maybe I didn't.
>
Please have a look now, I added "WikiEditor" instead of the default,
because it has some issues with the seconds part icons and are not easy
extendable.
Look in mediawiki, there are examples on how to extend the icons, you can
do it for your user, and once it works I can include them.
>
> *Category for Speedy Deletion*: Jan, you deleted this category. Granted,
> it was empty at the time, but we sysops chase and delete pages that show up
> here. This is how non-sysops request page deletion, by adding the template,
> {{delete|explanation}} to the page. Then a sysop looks at the page and the
> reason, and acts accordingly: deletes the page or removes the template, and
> explains why in the summary.
>
Sorry, there was not comment like in the russian pages. Can you please make
it again, and put a comment in there.
>
> Most of the users who would request such a thing are now sysops, and can
> do their own deletions, but even there, they might want a second opinion. I
> suggest that this method is worth keeping. Therefore, I have re-created the
> category.
>
Agree, but please put a note like "to not delete even if empty" for future
admins :-)
>
> /tj/
>
>
>> On 25 December 2012 04:54, Helen russian <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all.
>>>
>>> Jan,
>>>
>>> Russian characters are damaged in the page names and in the category
>>> names.
>>> Please look at http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Category:RU<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:RU>
>>>
>>> Look also at other names: http<http://wiki.openoffice.**
>>> org/wiki/Category:AR <http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:AR>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/**Category:AR<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:AR>
>>> <http://wiki.**openoffice.org/wiki/Category:**AR<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:AR>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Helen
>>>
>>> 2012/12/25 janI <ja...@apache.org>:
>>>
>>>> Hi Tj.
>>>>
>>>> I have no problem with the editor tool bar ? or did I misunderstand you
>>>> ?
>>>> (see attachment)
>>>>
>>>> Wikitest is not active at the moment, because I have switches 1.20.2 to
>>>> production.
>>>>
>>>> Rgds
>>>> Jan I.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 24 December 2012 20:47, TJ Frazier <tj...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/24/2012 06:50, janI wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have taken wiki.openoffice.org, down for a db maintenance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jan I.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jan,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm seeing a problem with the editor tool bar. Tried to check it out on
>>>>> testwiki, but got a 403.
>>>>>
>>>>> /tj/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Helen
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours !!!!
Posted by janI <ja...@apache.org>.
Give me an hour, I will try to run the UTF8 conversion.
jan I.
On 25 December 2012 14:15, helen <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> 25.12.2012 18:22, TJ Frazier пишет:
>
>
>> Hi, Jan, Helen,
>>
>> *UTF8*: It seems we have some scattered conversion problems in this area.
>> The big question is, how many? The "Unused files" special page is showing
>> strange entries for the first few items, too; the names look like what I'd
>> expect from double conversion.
>>
>> @Helen: can you give us a better idea of how big the problem is? Cyrillic
>> is "Greek to me" (="unknown"), too. I am assuming that this would be
>> important, for going back or going forward.
>>
>
> Look at http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Special:AncientPages<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Special:AncientPages>
> I found wrong characters in these items (for first 5000 items, languages
> RU, MN, JA, KO, DE, FR, SV):
>
> 59
> 60
> 61
> 109
> 476
> 477
> 510-516
> 629
> 676
> 707
> 833
> 834
> 940-953
> 959
> 1013
> 1041
> 1062
> 1063
> 1067-1069
> 1080-1117
> 1139-1159
> 1162
> 1187-1202
> 1205-1250
> 1253-1272
> 1279
> 1280
> 1427
> 1492
> 1520
> 1603
> 1750
> 1769
> 1770
> 1791
> 1793
> 1950
> 2183
> 2210
> 2310
> 2336
> 2348
> 2349
> 2379
> 2548
> 3434
> 4039
> 4040
> 4045
> 4448
> 4505
> 4513
> 4672
> 4733
> 4798
> 4785-4927
>
> --
> WBR,
> Helen
>
Re: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours
!!!!
Posted by helen <he...@gmail.com>.
Hi all
25.12.2012 18:22, TJ Frazier пишет:
>
> Hi, Jan, Helen,
>
> *UTF8*: It seems we have some scattered conversion problems in this
> area. The big question is, how many? The "Unused files" special page
> is showing strange entries for the first few items, too; the names
> look like what I'd expect from double conversion.
>
> @Helen: can you give us a better idea of how big the problem is?
> Cyrillic is "Greek to me" (="unknown"), too. I am assuming that this
> would be important, for going back or going forward.
Look at http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Special:AncientPages
I found wrong characters in these items (for first 5000 items, languages
RU, MN, JA, KO, DE, FR, SV):
59
60
61
109
476
477
510-516
629
676
707
833
834
940-953
959
1013
1041
1062
1063
1067-1069
1080-1117
1139-1159
1162
1187-1202
1205-1250
1253-1272
1279
1280
1427
1492
1520
1603
1750
1769
1770
1791
1793
1950
2183
2210
2310
2336
2348
2349
2379
2548
3434
4039
4040
4045
4448
4505
4513
4672
4733
4798
4785-4927
--
WBR,
Helen
Re: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours
!!!!
Posted by TJ Frazier <tj...@cfl.rr.com>.
On 12/25/2012 04:03, janI wrote:
> HI Tj and Helen.
>
> First please bear over with me, it is x-mas morning, and my head is not
> fully operational :-)
>
> Let me explain:
> we are actually running on the test system, I have a link for production
> that I can switch to different directories, and I simply pointed it at test
> (which makes it easy to switch back).
>
> Of course I also updated the DB.
>
>
> @Tj:
> I see your problem, that is a security issue I did not see comming :-(
>
> You tested the editor in test, can you confirm that it had no problems ?
>
> @Helen:
>
> This has to do with the UTF8 conversion, I understood from the previous
> mails that it worked on wikitest...and I just tested a couple of pages (in
> russian), which to be honest I did not understand, but the looked like the
> old wiki :-)
>
> I can do the UTF8 conversion, pn text and pages in the live system, but I
> have my children visiting, so it will take a couple of days.
>
>
> If any of you (on anybody else with a serious reason) request that I roll
> back I wil do it by restoring the db backup from yesterday and activating
> the old code...please advice quickly in order not to loose too many changes.
>
> Have a nice day, and thanks for advicing me.
> Jan I.
Hi, Jan, Helen,
*UTF8*: It seems we have some scattered conversion problems in this
area. The big question is, how many? The "Unused files" special page is
showing strange entries for the first few items, too; the names look
like what I'd expect from double conversion.
@Helen: can you give us a better idea of how big the problem is?
Cyrillic is "Greek to me" (="unknown"), too. I am assuming that this
would be important, for going back or going forward.
*Editor*: Loading the toolbar has always been a two-step process: the
first part is initially visible, then the rest of the icons load quickly
but visibly later. (I'd love to know more about what's going on here,
because I'd love to add an icon to the list: <tt>TEXT HERE</tt>,
something I use frequently.) I think (but cannot confirm) that it was
working on testwiki. I did do a little editing on testwiki, so I should
have noticed the glitch, but maybe I didn't.
*Category for Speedy Deletion*: Jan, you deleted this category. Granted,
it was empty at the time, but we sysops chase and delete pages that show
up here. This is how non-sysops request page deletion, by adding the
template, {{delete|explanation}} to the page. Then a sysop looks at the
page and the reason, and acts accordingly: deletes the page or removes
the template, and explains why in the summary.
Most of the users who would request such a thing are now sysops, and can
do their own deletions, but even there, they might want a second
opinion. I suggest that this method is worth keeping. Therefore, I have
re-created the category.
/tj/
>
> On 25 December 2012 04:54, Helen russian <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello all.
>>
>> Jan,
>>
>> Russian characters are damaged in the page names and in the category names.
>> Please look at http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:RU
>>
>> Look also at other names: http<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:AR>
>
>
>
>
>
>> ://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:AR<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:AR>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Helen
>>
>> 2012/12/25 janI <ja...@apache.org>:
>>> Hi Tj.
>>>
>>> I have no problem with the editor tool bar ? or did I misunderstand you ?
>>> (see attachment)
>>>
>>> Wikitest is not active at the moment, because I have switches 1.20.2 to
>>> production.
>>>
>>> Rgds
>>> Jan I.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 24 December 2012 20:47, TJ Frazier <tj...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 12/24/2012 06:50, janI wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have taken wiki.openoffice.org, down for a db maintenance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jan I.
>>>>>
>>>> Jan,
>>>>
>>>> I'm seeing a problem with the editor tool bar. Tried to check it out on
>>>> testwiki, but got a 403.
>>>>
>>>> /tj/
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Helen
>>
>
Re: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours !!!!
Posted by janI <ja...@apache.org>.
HI Tj and Helen.
First please bear over with me, it is x-mas morning, and my head is not
fully operational :-)
Let me explain:
we are actually running on the test system, I have a link for production
that I can switch to different directories, and I simply pointed it at test
(which makes it easy to switch back).
Of course I also updated the DB.
@Tj:
I see your problem, that is a security issue I did not see comming :-(
You tested the editor in test, can you confirm that it had no problems ?
@Helen:
This has to do with the UTF8 conversion, I understood from the previous
mails that it worked on wikitest...and I just tested a couple of pages (in
russian), which to be honest I did not understand, but the looked like the
old wiki :-)
I can do the UTF8 conversion, pn text and pages in the live system, but I
have my children visiting, so it will take a couple of days.
If any of you (on anybody else with a serious reason) request that I roll
back I wil do it by restoring the db backup from yesterday and activating
the old code...please advice quickly in order not to loose too many changes.
Have a nice day, and thanks for advicing me.
Jan I.
On 25 December 2012 04:54, Helen russian <he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all.
>
> Jan,
>
> Russian characters are damaged in the page names and in the category names.
> Please look at http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:RU
>
> Look also at other names: http<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:AR>
> ://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:AR<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:AR>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Helen
>
> 2012/12/25 janI <ja...@apache.org>:
> > Hi Tj.
> >
> > I have no problem with the editor tool bar ? or did I misunderstand you ?
> > (see attachment)
> >
> > Wikitest is not active at the moment, because I have switches 1.20.2 to
> > production.
> >
> > Rgds
> > Jan I.
> >
> >
> > On 24 December 2012 20:47, TJ Frazier <tj...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 12/24/2012 06:50, janI wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi.
> >>>
> >>> I have taken wiki.openoffice.org, down for a db maintenance.
> >>>
> >>> Jan I.
> >>>
> >> Jan,
> >>
> >> I'm seeing a problem with the editor tool bar. Tried to check it out on
> >> testwiki, but got a 403.
> >>
> >> /tj/
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Helen
>
Re: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours !!!!
Posted by Helen russian <he...@gmail.com>.
Hello all.
Jan,
Russian characters are damaged in the page names and in the category names.
Please look at http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:RU
Look also at other names: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:AR
--
Regards,
Helen
2012/12/25 janI <ja...@apache.org>:
> Hi Tj.
>
> I have no problem with the editor tool bar ? or did I misunderstand you ?
> (see attachment)
>
> Wikitest is not active at the moment, because I have switches 1.20.2 to
> production.
>
> Rgds
> Jan I.
>
>
> On 24 December 2012 20:47, TJ Frazier <tj...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 12/24/2012 06:50, janI wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> I have taken wiki.openoffice.org, down for a db maintenance.
>>>
>>> Jan I.
>>>
>> Jan,
>>
>> I'm seeing a problem with the editor tool bar. Tried to check it out on
>> testwiki, but got a 403.
>>
>> /tj/
>>
>
--
Helen
Re: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours !!!!
Posted by janI <ja...@apache.org>.
Hi Tj.
I have no problem with the editor tool bar ? or did I misunderstand you ?
(see attachment)
Wikitest is not active at the moment, because I have switches 1.20.2 to
production.
Rgds
Jan I.
On 24 December 2012 20:47, TJ Frazier <tj...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> On 12/24/2012 06:50, janI wrote:
>
>> Hi.
>>
>> I have taken wiki.openoffice.org, down for a db maintenance.
>>
>> Jan I.
>>
>> Jan,
>
> I'm seeing a problem with the editor tool bar. Tried to check it out on
> testwiki, but got a 403.
>
> /tj/
>
>
Re: [mwiki] IS DOWN FOR DB MAINTENANCE for the next couple of hours
!!!!
Posted by TJ Frazier <tj...@cfl.rr.com>.
On 12/24/2012 06:50, janI wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I have taken wiki.openoffice.org, down for a db maintenance.
>
> Jan I.
>
Jan,
I'm seeing a problem with the editor tool bar. Tried to check it out on
testwiki, but got a 403.
/tj/