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Posted to fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org by Clay Leeds <cl...@medata.com> on 2003/04/28 18:06:37 UTC

Some Resources (was Re: newbie help on error message)

Victor,

While we're on the subject of books and resources for FOP Resources,
here's a couple things to add. One of my previous posts included a list
of good books on XSL-FO (some of which you've listed). Here's a link to
my post.

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-user&m=104463666315238&w=2

Aside from the usual suspects of good XSL-FO books, it also includes a
link to the excellent XPath Visualizer which unfortunately only runs in
Internet Exploiter :-(

XPath Visualizer:
   http://www.vbxml.com/xpathvisualizer/

Extra Credit:
(I "hand wrote" the signature on that message in a spate of frustration
regarding all of the "This msg intended for recipient..." sigs. Looking
back on it, it's pretty funny! ;-]

In addition, there are two new books:

- Definitive XSL-FO, by G. Ken Holman - ISBN: 0131403745
  (Chapter 8 - "Floats & Footnotes" online at Amazon)
- XSL Formatting Objects, by Doug Lovell - ISBN: 0672322811
  (Chapter 3 - "Tools & Implementations" online at Amazon)

(I haven't seen them, anyone have a review)

BTW, it'd be great to add Amazon.com links to the selected books which
include "donation" information for FOP (or Apache or Jeremias--I'm
pluggin' for ya!--or whomever?). That way, links to good books from the
highly trafficked FOP Resources page could actually bring in a bit of $$
to help pay for coffee, Mtn Dew, donuts or paper?

;-)

Victor Mote wrote:
> J.Pietschmann wrote:
> 
> 
>>Buy Mike Kay's book on XSLT (ISBN 1861005067) and perhaps
>>D.Pawsons book about XSLFO (ISBN 0596003552) and work through
>>the examples. It is usually unwise to learn a new technology on
>>the job.
>>
>>Victor: as usual, something for the ressources page?
> 
> 
> Good idea -- I just committed a change that has both of these. I also added
> the O'Reilly book "XSLT Cookbook", for which I have seen some good reviews.
> I hadn't heard about that one until this week. I hope to publish the web
> site this weekend.
> 
> BTW, I think it is good to learn new technology on the job. In fact, having
> a real-world problem is about the only way I can learn anything. However,
> you do want to have your books at hand as you do it, which is probably what
> you meant anyway.


-- 
Clay Leeds - cleeds@medata.com
Web Developer - Medata, Inc. - http://www.medata.com
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RE: Some Resources (was Re: newbie help on error message)

Posted by Victor Mote <vi...@outfitr.com>.
Clay Leeds wrote:

> While we're on the subject of books and resources for FOP Resources,
> here's a couple things to add. One of my previous posts included a list
> of good books on XSL-FO (some of which you've listed). Here's a link to
> my post.
>
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-user&m=104463666315238&w=2

OK, I have added links to "XPath and XPointer" (yes, that is a good one),
the XPath Visualizer tool, "XSL Essentials".

"The XML Bible" was already on the list, but I did rework the whole thing
today to link to both the online version & the hardcopy version.

> - Definitive XSL-FO, by G. Ken Holman - ISBN: 0131403745
>   (Chapter 8 - "Floats & Footnotes" online at Amazon)
> - XSL Formatting Objects, by Doug Lovell - ISBN: 0672322811
>   (Chapter 3 - "Tools & Implementations" online at Amazon)

I have added them.

> BTW, it'd be great to add Amazon.com links to the selected books which
> include "donation" information for FOP (or Apache or Jeremias--I'm
> pluggin' for ya!--or whomever?). That way, links to good books from the
> highly trafficked FOP Resources page could actually bring in a bit of $$
> to help pay for coffee, Mtn Dew, donuts or paper?

I am not sure what Apache's policies are, but my preference is to keep the
links extremely professional. If we add Amazon links, do we need to add B&N?
What about Amazon UK or Amazon Japan? I don't think I want to go there. I
think our users can probably figure out how to find their favorite online
bookstore. (It is a good idea though -- feel free to raise it on the fop-dev
mailing list if you feel strongly about it).

Victor Mote


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