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Posted to dev@netbeans.apache.org by Jiří Kovalský <ji...@oracle.com> on 2017/05/12 17:45:37 UTC
Products/Components structure for JIRA
Hello NetBeans Apache Incubator community,
in order to be prepared for switching NetBeans bug tracking from
Bugzilla to JIRA we need to have appropriate products and categories
created in JIRA.
At the moment there are almost 600 combinations of products and
components in the NetBeans Bugzilla but plenty of them are no longer
used and are obsolete. That's why we have prepared a reduced list of
these with ~230 combinations which we consider valid. It is based on the
following criteria: the product/component was used in the past 6 months
and has at least 10 opened bugs. We also removed Oracle hosting specific
products like installers, qa, www etc. however any of these can be
re-added in the future if needed of course.
Please review the list and comment if you have a strong opinion.
Since NetCAT 9.0 program is scheduled to start in early June please
don't hesitate long with your feedback.
And finally, who has the knowledge/access to JIRA to create these
products/components there?
Thanks and enjoy your weekends!
-Jirka
Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Javier Ortiz <ja...@gmail.com>.
Components are used to segregate issues in JIRA. Labels can be shared
between projects/components.
Also components can be assigned to a team, labels can't.
Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by John McDonnell <mc...@gmail.com>.
Hi Jirka,
Not know enough about products/components in JIRA, but could we not keep it simple and use labels?
So a defect could have at least 2 labels: 'apisupport' and 'API docs', or 'utilities' and ‘code’, etc?
Regards
John
> On 12 May 2017, at 18:45, Jiří Kovalský <ji...@oracle.com> wrote:
>
> Hello NetBeans Apache Incubator community,
>
> in order to be prepared for switching NetBeans bug tracking from Bugzilla to JIRA we need to have appropriate products and categories created in JIRA.
>
> At the moment there are almost 600 combinations of products and components in the NetBeans Bugzilla but plenty of them are no longer used and are obsolete. That's why we have prepared a reduced list of these with ~230 combinations which we consider valid. It is based on the following criteria: the product/component was used in the past 6 months and has at least 10 opened bugs. We also removed Oracle hosting specific products like installers, qa, www etc. however any of these can be re-added in the future if needed of course.
>
> Please review the list and comment if you have a strong opinion.
>
> Since NetCAT 9.0 program is scheduled to start in early June please don't hesitate long with your feedback.
>
> And finally, who has the knowledge/access to JIRA to create these products/components there?
>
> Thanks and enjoy your weekends!
>
> -Jirka
> <components.txt>
Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
Not yet, will work on this by the end of this week.
Gj
On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 11:30 PM, Jiří Kovalský <ji...@oracle.com>
wrote:
> Any update on this?
>
> Have JIRA been created for NetBeans already and products/components setup?
>
> Thanks,
> -Jirka
>
> Dne 16.5.2017 v 10:28 Jiří Kovalský napsal(a):
>
> Dne 15.5.2017 v 10:42 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):
>>
>>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Christian Lenz wrote:
>>>
>>> When I have a look in my tickets, there are a lot of tickets, where no
>>> one
>>>
>>>> is working on. Sure there is a person who is responsible for it but I
>>>> have
>>>> a lot of tickets where there is no single communication at all. So those
>>>> tickets seems dead but they arn't. Most of the time those tickets are
>>>> feature requests. That should be handled by jira too and not gettings
>>>> lost.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Definitely yes.
>>>
>>
>> I also agree that it would be better if some volunteers take it over and
>> migrate those Bugzilla bugs/enhancements that will have corresponding
>> products/components in JIRA.
>>
>> -Jirka
>>
>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Christian Lenz <Christian.Lenz@gmx.net
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> When I have a look in my tickets, there are a lot of tickets, where no
>>>> one
>>>> is working on. Sure there is a person who is responsible for it but I
>>>> have
>>>> a lot of tickets where there is no single communication at all. So those
>>>> tickets seems dead but they arn't. Most of the time those tickets are
>>>> feature requests. That should be handled by jira too and not gettings
>>>> lost.
>>>>
>>>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Mai 2017 um 11:12 Uhr
>>>>> Von: "Jiří Kovalský" <ji...@oracle.com>
>>>>> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>> Betreff: Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe that those which will be worked on by somebody will be
>>>>> manually duplicated in JIRA a linked back to original Bugzilla issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Jirka
>>>>>
>>>>> Dne 13.5.2017 v 11:47 Cezariusz Marek napsal(a):
>>>>>
>>>>> What about open issues? How are you going to track them if you won't
>>>>>>
>>>>> migrate them?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Cezariusz Marek
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Jiří Kovalský [mailto:jiri.kovalsky@oracle.com]
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 11:39 AM
>>>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>> Cc: Sean Carrick <Pe...@outlook.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think we should have component for every plugin and as for
>>>>> CakePHP there are only 18 CakePHP specific bugs in Bugzilla. The last
>>>>> one #256685 [1] was resolved in November 2015.
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__
>>>>>
>>>> netbeans.org_bugzilla_show-5Fbug.cgi-3Fid-3D256685&d=DwIFaQ&c=
>>>> RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=
>>>> lNbsjsPBIlkvLk3cCo-v9Cl8OCHz_BBqfpuXTKAlzb4&m=
>>>> EUQOw7cbL6aSw6jsTvlkOLwKoHt0qQwyP9cozE3PK7o&s=Bl57Fy4-rph-
>>>> 9F87uSknVK7mQf_i_sp3SlrN5-nEO6E&e=
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And for the record I am against migrating any bugs from Bugzilla to
>>>>> JIRA. We will just switch Bugzilla to read-only mode and start filing
>>>>> bugs to JIRA from issue #0 after donation is complete.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Jirka
>>>>>
>>>>> Dne 13.5.2017 v 01:40 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):
>>>>>
>>>>>> If CakePHP isn't listed specifically in the current Bugzilla then it
>>>>>> won't be in the reduced list either. And Bugzilla has never had a
>>>>>> component for each plugin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The point is to try and maintain a list of products/components as
>>>>>> close to what there currently is, so that we can transfer issues over
>>>>>> from the Oracle NetBeans bugtracker to the Apache NetBeans bugtracker.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I strongly recommend we don't start thinking up new
>>>>>> products/components until we have a stable situation, i.e., until we
>>>>>> have (1) set up the reduced list as categories in Apache NetBeans
>>>>>> bugtracker and (2) moved the issues from the Oracle bugtracker to the
>>>>>>
>>>>> Apache bugtracker.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 1:32 AM, Sean Carrick <Pe...@outlook.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Emi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's what I was wondering...I couldn't remember if CakePHP was in
>>>>>>> the Bugzilla system or not, but could have sworn I'd seen plugins for
>>>>>>> CakePHP in NB...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sean Carrick
>>>>>>> VP Information Systems
>>>>>>> Integrity Solutions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 2017-05-13 at 02:09 +0300, Emilian Bold wrote:
>>>>>>> This is a "reduced list". I don't see CakePHP in the current Bugzilla
>>>>>>> either. I assume it falls under PHP?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --emi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:04 AM, Sean Carrick <PekinSOFT@outlook.com
>>>>>>> <ma...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Jiri,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking through that list, I didn't see the CakePHP framework on the
>>>>>>> list. Isn't CakePHP currently supported within NetBeans and shouldn't
>>>>>>> there be a bug reporting combination on JIRA?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sean Carrick
>>>>>>> VP Information Systems
>>>>>>> Integrity Solutions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 2017-05-12 at 19:45 +0200, Jiří Kovalský wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello NetBeans Apache Incubator community,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> in order to be prepared for switching NetBeans bug tracking from
>>>>>>>> Bugzilla to JIRA we need to have appropriate products and categories
>>>>>>>> created in JIRA.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At the moment there are almost 600 combinations of products and
>>>>>>>> components in the NetBeans Bugzilla but plenty of them are no longer
>>>>>>>> used and are obsolete. That's why we have prepared a reduced list of
>>>>>>>> these with ~230 combinations which we consider valid. It is based on
>>>>>>>> the following criteria: the product/component was used in the past 6
>>>>>>>> months and has at least 10 opened bugs. We also removed Oracle
>>>>>>>> hosting specific products like installers, qa, www etc. however any
>>>>>>>> of these can be re-added in the future if needed of course.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please review the list and comment if you have a strong opinion.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since NetCAT 9.0 program is scheduled to start in early June please
>>>>>>>> don't hesitate long with your feedback.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And finally, who has the knowledge/access to JIRA to create these
>>>>>>>> products/components there?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks and enjoy your weekends!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Jirka
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
AW: AW: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>.
Thx, but why python? I thought that python is a 3rd Party plugin, not supported by NetBeans, like Perl, Ruby, Scala, etc.
Gesendet von Mail für Windows 10
Von: Jiří Kovalský
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. Juni 2017 20:31
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: AW: Products/Components structure for JIRA
And here is the list of components together with their descriptions.
Some are not very much descriptive so you can freely improve these if
you know their meaning well.
Hope this helps,
-Jirka
Dne 8.6.2017 v 18:45 Jiří Kovalský napsal(a):
> I think I can take care of this and send you the list of components
> descriptions. It will be most probably next week though.
>
> Thanks,
> -Jirka
>
> Dne 8.6.2017 v 14:41 Christian Lenz napsal(a):
>> Ok yes, the description could be find on the right too for those
>> second Level components.
>>
>> Gesendet von Mail für Windows 10
>>
>> Von: Hermien Pellissier
>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Juni 2017 14:38
>> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>> Betreff: Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
>>
>>> Do you mean These descriptions?
>>>
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__netbeans.org_bugzilla_enter-5Fbug.cgi&d=DwIFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=lNbsjsPBIlkvLk3cCo-v9Cl8OCHz_BBqfpuXTKAlzb4&m=NhD5rzMSU798IrcdTAD5wHadsEacPRBjxSND_g2z7-Q&s=pWbCdXaXJXyXFINVVJ0XEMyYU0hJEC9fs5s0hSGqJuo&e=
>>> Right behind the component.
>>
>> Thanks! That answers the first question.
>>
>> We need one level deeper actually - like the ones you get if you click
>> on the components on this page:
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__netbeans.org_bugzilla_enter-5Fbug.cgi-3Fproduct-3Dapisupport&d=DwIFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=lNbsjsPBIlkvLk3cCo-v9Cl8OCHz_BBqfpuXTKAlzb4&m=NhD5rzMSU798IrcdTAD5wHadsEacPRBjxSND_g2z7-Q&s=18iGXLnSUYrJ5S-ZxSSOFeZhcyb8EwmEw2LFxEZ-CVs&e=
>>
>>
>> So, do we want to transfer those descriptions too? And if so, is there
>> an easy way to get the full list?
>>
>> ~ Hermien
>>
>>
Re: AW: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Hermien Pellissier <mi...@gmail.com>.
> And here is the list of components together with their descriptions. Some
> are not very much descriptive so you can freely improve these if you know
> their meaning well.
Thank you!
~Hermien
Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Ross Lamont <rl...@componentcorp.com>.
> On 23 Jun 2017, at 8:25 pm, Hermien Pellissier <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Can we please add in xml-api as well? I’ve recently added in an improvement to Netbeans and I used xml-schema and xml-code as they seemed the best fit.
>
> I have created the component. :)
Thanks!
>
>> It’s probably not a priority, but can I suggest we establish a document which allows a developer posting a bug to map from the various apis to the JIRA components? Some of them will be non-obvious. It could even be done in the JIRA component description.
>
> This is a very good idea! Some of the component descriptions do
> already contain package names, but I am sure that more can be added. I
> would suggest creating a wiki page where people can contribute their
> knowledge, and then we can transfer it to the component descriptions
> at some stage.
I have added some pages under “How to participate” with a list of all the directories in the NB source tree.
Unfortunately I don’t have the knowledge to map these to the correct JIRA components, and I’m conscious that I
may be making work for people who are already busy migrating stuff to Apache. I will not be offended if you delete
or hide this page for a later date. At the moment, without the JIRA components, it could be seen as worse than
useless. On the other hand, if you want me to have a crack at mapping components - let me know and I’ll give it my best
shot.
Can I also suggest (again at the risk of making work for folks) that we establish some guidelines for those wanting
to contribute or maintain the wiki?
>
> ~ Hermien
Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Hermien Pellissier <mi...@gmail.com>.
Hi Ross,
> Can we please add in xml-api as well? I’ve recently added in an improvement to Netbeans and I used xml-schema and xml-code as they seemed the best fit.
I have created the component. :)
> It’s probably not a priority, but can I suggest we establish a document which allows a developer posting a bug to map from the various apis to the JIRA components? Some of them will be non-obvious. It could even be done in the JIRA component description.
This is a very good idea! Some of the component descriptions do
already contain package names, but I am sure that more can be added. I
would suggest creating a wiki page where people can contribute their
knowledge, and then we can transfer it to the component descriptions
at some stage.
~ Hermien
Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Ross Lamont <rl...@componentcorp.com>.
Hi Hermien,
Can we please add in xml-api as well? I’ve recently added in an improvement to Netbeans and I used xml-schema and xml-code as they seemed the best fit.
It’s probably not a priority, but can I suggest we establish a document which allows a developer posting a bug to map from the various apis to the JIRA components? Some of them will be non-obvious. It could even be done in the JIRA component description.
Cheers
Ross
> On 22 Jun 2017, at 10:17 pm, Hermien Pellissier <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> And here is the list of components together with their descriptions. Some
>> are not very much descriptive so you can freely improve these if you know
>> their meaning well.
>>
>
> I have (finally) transferred all the existing descriptions.
>
> ~ Hermien
Re: AW: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
Great!
Gj
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Hermien Pellissier <mi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> > And here is the list of components together with their descriptions. Some
> > are not very much descriptive so you can freely improve these if you know
> > their meaning well.
> >
>
> I have (finally) transferred all the existing descriptions.
>
> ~ Hermien
>
Re: AW: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Hermien Pellissier <mi...@gmail.com>.
>
> And here is the list of components together with their descriptions. Some
> are not very much descriptive so you can freely improve these if you know
> their meaning well.
>
I have (finally) transferred all the existing descriptions.
~ Hermien
Re: AW: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Jiří Kovalský <ji...@oracle.com>.
And here is the list of components together with their descriptions.
Some are not very much descriptive so you can freely improve these if
you know their meaning well.
Hope this helps,
-Jirka
Dne 8.6.2017 v 18:45 Jiřà Kovalský napsal(a):
> I think I can take care of this and send you the list of components
> descriptions. It will be most probably next week though.
>
> Thanks,
> -Jirka
>
> Dne 8.6.2017 v 14:41 Christian Lenz napsal(a):
>> Ok yes, the description could be find on the right too for those
>> second Level components.
>>
>> Gesendet von Mail für Windows 10
>>
>> Von: Hermien Pellissier
>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Juni 2017 14:38
>> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>> Betreff: Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
>>
>>> Do you mean These descriptions?
>>>
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__netbeans.org_bugzilla_enter-5Fbug.cgi&d=DwIFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=lNbsjsPBIlkvLk3cCo-v9Cl8OCHz_BBqfpuXTKAlzb4&m=NhD5rzMSU798IrcdTAD5wHadsEacPRBjxSND_g2z7-Q&s=pWbCdXaXJXyXFINVVJ0XEMyYU0hJEC9fs5s0hSGqJuo&e=
>>> Right behind the component.
>>
>> Thanks! That answers the first question.
>>
>> We need one level deeper actually - like the ones you get if you click
>> on the components on this page:
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__netbeans.org_bugzilla_enter-5Fbug.cgi-3Fproduct-3Dapisupport&d=DwIFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=lNbsjsPBIlkvLk3cCo-v9Cl8OCHz_BBqfpuXTKAlzb4&m=NhD5rzMSU798IrcdTAD5wHadsEacPRBjxSND_g2z7-Q&s=18iGXLnSUYrJ5S-ZxSSOFeZhcyb8EwmEw2LFxEZ-CVs&e=
>>
>>
>> So, do we want to transfer those descriptions too? And if so, is there
>> an easy way to get the full list?
>>
>> ~ Hermien
>>
>>
Re: AW: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Hermien Pellissier <mi...@gmail.com>.
> I think I can take care of this and send you the list of components
> descriptions. It will be most probably next week though.
Thanks! No rush - the components are there and can be used without the
descriptions for the moment.
~ Hermien
Re: AW: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Hermien Pellissier <mi...@gmail.com>.
>> All done. I was distracted a number of times, so I might have missed
>> one or two. But I have worked through the full list.
>
> Just checked and you got all of them Hermien, didn't miss a single one.
Awesome! :D Thanks for checking!
~ Hermien
Re: AW: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Hermien Pellissier <mi...@gmail.com>.
> Yes, really excellent, thanks a lot. I also added "platform - HTML4J", as
> requested by Jaroslav above, and "web - Oracle JET".
You're most welcome. And thanks for adding those additional two components!
~ Hermien
Re: AW: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
Yes, really excellent, thanks a lot. I also added "platform - HTML4J", as
requested by Jaroslav above, and "web - Oracle JET".
Thanks again,
Gj
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 7:00 PM, John McDonnell <mc...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On 8 June 2017 at 13:20, Hermien Pellissier <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > All done. I was distracted a number of times, so I might have missed
> > one or two. But I have worked through the full list.
>
> Just checked and you got all of them Hermien, didn't miss a single one.
>
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
> On 8 June 2017 at 17:45, Jiří Kovalský <ji...@oracle.com> wrote:
> > I think I can take care of this and send you the list of components
> > descriptions. It will be most probably next week though.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Jirka
> >
> > Dne 8.6.2017 v 14:41 Christian Lenz napsal(a):
> >>
> >> Ok yes, the description could be find on the right too for those second
> >> Level components.
> >>
> >> Gesendet von Mail für Windows 10
> >>
> >> Von: Hermien Pellissier
> >> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Juni 2017 14:38
> >> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> >> Betreff: Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
> >>
> >>> Do you mean These descriptions?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__
> netbeans.org_bugzilla_enter-5Fbug.cgi&d=DwIFaQ&c=
> RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=
> lNbsjsPBIlkvLk3cCo-v9Cl8OCHz_BBqfpuXTKAlzb4&m=
> NhD5rzMSU798IrcdTAD5wHadsEacPRBjxSND_g2z7-Q&s=
> pWbCdXaXJXyXFINVVJ0XEMyYU0hJEC9fs5s0hSGqJuo&e=
> >>> Right behind the component.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks! That answers the first question.
> >>
> >> We need one level deeper actually - like the ones you get if you click
> >> on the components on this page:
> >>
> >>
> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__
> netbeans.org_bugzilla_enter-5Fbug.cgi-3Fproduct-3Dapisupport&d=DwIFaQ&c=
> RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=
> lNbsjsPBIlkvLk3cCo-v9Cl8OCHz_BBqfpuXTKAlzb4&m=
> NhD5rzMSU798IrcdTAD5wHadsEacPRBjxSND_g2z7-Q&s=18iGXLnSUYrJ5S-
> ZxSSOFeZhcyb8EwmEw2LFxEZ-CVs&e=
> >>
> >> So, do we want to transfer those descriptions too? And if so, is there
> >> an easy way to get the full list?
> >>
> >> ~ Hermien
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> John
>
Re: AW: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by John McDonnell <mc...@gmail.com>.
On 8 June 2017 at 13:20, Hermien Pellissier <mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> All done. I was distracted a number of times, so I might have missed
> one or two. But I have worked through the full list.
Just checked and you got all of them Hermien, didn't miss a single one.
Regards
John
On 8 June 2017 at 17:45, Jiří Kovalský <ji...@oracle.com> wrote:
> I think I can take care of this and send you the list of components
> descriptions. It will be most probably next week though.
>
> Thanks,
> -Jirka
>
> Dne 8.6.2017 v 14:41 Christian Lenz napsal(a):
>>
>> Ok yes, the description could be find on the right too for those second
>> Level components.
>>
>> Gesendet von Mail für Windows 10
>>
>> Von: Hermien Pellissier
>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Juni 2017 14:38
>> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>> Betreff: Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
>>
>>> Do you mean These descriptions?
>>>
>>>
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__netbeans.org_bugzilla_enter-5Fbug.cgi&d=DwIFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=lNbsjsPBIlkvLk3cCo-v9Cl8OCHz_BBqfpuXTKAlzb4&m=NhD5rzMSU798IrcdTAD5wHadsEacPRBjxSND_g2z7-Q&s=pWbCdXaXJXyXFINVVJ0XEMyYU0hJEC9fs5s0hSGqJuo&e=
>>> Right behind the component.
>>
>>
>> Thanks! That answers the first question.
>>
>> We need one level deeper actually - like the ones you get if you click
>> on the components on this page:
>>
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__netbeans.org_bugzilla_enter-5Fbug.cgi-3Fproduct-3Dapisupport&d=DwIFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=lNbsjsPBIlkvLk3cCo-v9Cl8OCHz_BBqfpuXTKAlzb4&m=NhD5rzMSU798IrcdTAD5wHadsEacPRBjxSND_g2z7-Q&s=18iGXLnSUYrJ5S-ZxSSOFeZhcyb8EwmEw2LFxEZ-CVs&e=
>>
>> So, do we want to transfer those descriptions too? And if so, is there
>> an easy way to get the full list?
>>
>> ~ Hermien
>>
>>
>
--
John
Re: AW: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Jiří Kovalský <ji...@oracle.com>.
I think I can take care of this and send you the list of components
descriptions. It will be most probably next week though.
Thanks,
-Jirka
Dne 8.6.2017 v 14:41 Christian Lenz napsal(a):
> Ok yes, the description could be find on the right too for those second Level components.
>
> Gesendet von Mail für Windows 10
>
> Von: Hermien Pellissier
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Juni 2017 14:38
> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
>
>> Do you mean These descriptions?
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__netbeans.org_bugzilla_enter-5Fbug.cgi&d=DwIFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=lNbsjsPBIlkvLk3cCo-v9Cl8OCHz_BBqfpuXTKAlzb4&m=NhD5rzMSU798IrcdTAD5wHadsEacPRBjxSND_g2z7-Q&s=pWbCdXaXJXyXFINVVJ0XEMyYU0hJEC9fs5s0hSGqJuo&e= Right behind the component.
>
> Thanks! That answers the first question.
>
> We need one level deeper actually - like the ones you get if you click
> on the components on this page:
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__netbeans.org_bugzilla_enter-5Fbug.cgi-3Fproduct-3Dapisupport&d=DwIFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=lNbsjsPBIlkvLk3cCo-v9Cl8OCHz_BBqfpuXTKAlzb4&m=NhD5rzMSU798IrcdTAD5wHadsEacPRBjxSND_g2z7-Q&s=18iGXLnSUYrJ5S-ZxSSOFeZhcyb8EwmEw2LFxEZ-CVs&e=
>
> So, do we want to transfer those descriptions too? And if so, is there
> an easy way to get the full list?
>
> ~ Hermien
>
>
AW: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>.
Ok yes, the description could be find on the right too for those second Level components.
Gesendet von Mail für Windows 10
Von: Hermien Pellissier
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Juni 2017 14:38
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
> Do you mean These descriptions?
>
> https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi Right behind the component.
Thanks! That answers the first question.
We need one level deeper actually - like the ones you get if you click
on the components on this page:
https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi?product=apisupport
So, do we want to transfer those descriptions too? And if so, is there
an easy way to get the full list?
~ Hermien
Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Hermien Pellissier <mi...@gmail.com>.
> Do you mean These descriptions?
>
> https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi Right behind the component.
Thanks! That answers the first question.
We need one level deeper actually - like the ones you get if you click
on the components on this page:
https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi?product=apisupport
So, do we want to transfer those descriptions too? And if so, is there
an easy way to get the full list?
~ Hermien
AW: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>.
Do you mean These descriptions?
https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi Right behind the component.
Gesendet von Mail für Windows 10
Von: Hermien Pellissier
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Juni 2017 14:20
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
All done. I was distracted a number of times, so I might have missed
one or two. But I have worked through the full list.
None of the components have descriptions. Were there descriptions in
Bugzilla? Do we want to keep those? And can they be exported?
~ Hermien
Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Hermien Pellissier <mi...@gmail.com>.
All done. I was distracted a number of times, so I might have missed
one or two. But I have worked through the full list.
None of the components have descriptions. Were there descriptions in
Bugzilla? Do we want to keep those? And can they be exported?
~ Hermien
Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
Brilliant. :-)
Gj
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 1:20 PM, Hermien Pellissier <mi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > Let's do it -- you'll notice it's very easy. Hermien is available for
> this
> > as indicated and I'll take a look tomorrow or so to see whether any are
> > missing or need to be added. Yes, everything is easy to edit.
>
> Reporting for duty. :) I will start at the bottom of the list.
>
> ~ Hermien
>
Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Hermien Pellissier <mi...@gmail.com>.
> Let's do it -- you'll notice it's very easy. Hermien is available for this
> as indicated and I'll take a look tomorrow or so to see whether any are
> missing or need to be added. Yes, everything is easy to edit.
Reporting for duty. :) I will start at the bottom of the list.
~ Hermien
Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
Great, so we have the go ahead for this.
Let's do it -- you'll notice it's very easy. Hermien is available for this
as indicated and I'll take a look tomorrow or so to see whether any are
missing or need to be added. Yes, everything is easy to edit.
By sometime during the weekend, at latest, we'll have all the components in
there -- again, I'll take a look in a day or so and see what's been done by
the other admins and then add anything I see missing.
Let's keep each other in the loop here on progress and status.
Gj
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Jiří Kovalský <ji...@oracle.com>
wrote:
> Hi team,
>
> I agree with the structure although this way the list will be very
> long. I would maybe suggest to reduce "-- Other --" only to "Other" but I
> see this can be edited later too.
>
> Thanks,
> -Jirka
>
> Dne 8.6.2017 v 10:45 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):
>
>
> That's excellent, many thanks.
>>
>> I have made you, John McDonnell and Jirka Kovalsky administrators of
>> Apache
>> NetBeans JIRA, together with the two who were already administrators --
>> Bertrand Delacretaz and myself.
>>
>> I'd like to wait for Jirka's agreement with the component structure before
>> we go ahead and add all the other components.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Hermien Pellissier <mi...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Jiri and John, I have taken John's suggestion and, as a start, have
>>>>
>>> created
>>>
>>>> four components:
>>>> apisupport - API docs
>>>> apisupport - Harness
>>>> apisupport - Maven
>>>> apisupport - Project
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think this is a good component structure.
>>>
>>> I'll also give permissions to Jirka, Hermien, John, and anyone else who,
>>>> after discussion, wants to be involved in the admin side of NetBeans
>>>>
>>> JIRA.
>>>
>>> Thanks! I will have time this afternoon and tomorrow to help create
>>> components.
>>>
>>> ~ Hermien
>>>
>>>
>>
Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Jiří Kovalský <ji...@oracle.com>.
Hi team,
I agree with the structure although this way the list will be very
long. I would maybe suggest to reduce "-- Other --" only to "Other" but
I see this can be edited later too.
Thanks,
-Jirka
Dne 8.6.2017 v 10:45 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):
> That's excellent, many thanks.
>
> I have made you, John McDonnell and Jirka Kovalsky administrators of Apache
> NetBeans JIRA, together with the two who were already administrators --
> Bertrand Delacretaz and myself.
>
> I'd like to wait for Jirka's agreement with the component structure before
> we go ahead and add all the other components.
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Hermien Pellissier <mi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> Jiri and John, I have taken John's suggestion and, as a start, have
>> created
>>> four components:
>>> apisupport - API docs
>>> apisupport - Harness
>>> apisupport - Maven
>>> apisupport - Project
>>
>> I think this is a good component structure.
>>
>>> I'll also give permissions to Jirka, Hermien, John, and anyone else who,
>>> after discussion, wants to be involved in the admin side of NetBeans
>> JIRA.
>>
>> Thanks! I will have time this afternoon and tomorrow to help create
>> components.
>>
>> ~ Hermien
>>
>
Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
That's excellent, many thanks.
I have made you, John McDonnell and Jirka Kovalsky administrators of Apache
NetBeans JIRA, together with the two who were already administrators --
Bertrand Delacretaz and myself.
I'd like to wait for Jirka's agreement with the component structure before
we go ahead and add all the other components.
Gj
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Hermien Pellissier <mi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > Jiri and John, I have taken John's suggestion and, as a start, have
> created
> > four components:
> > apisupport - API docs
> > apisupport - Harness
> > apisupport - Maven
> > apisupport - Project
>
> I think this is a good component structure.
>
> > I'll also give permissions to Jirka, Hermien, John, and anyone else who,
> > after discussion, wants to be involved in the admin side of NetBeans
> JIRA.
>
> Thanks! I will have time this afternoon and tomorrow to help create
> components.
>
> ~ Hermien
>
Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Hermien Pellissier <mi...@gmail.com>.
> Jiri and John, I have taken John's suggestion and, as a start, have created
> four components:
> apisupport - API docs
> apisupport - Harness
> apisupport - Maven
> apisupport - Project
I think this is a good component structure.
> I'll also give permissions to Jirka, Hermien, John, and anyone else who,
> after discussion, wants to be involved in the admin side of NetBeans JIRA.
Thanks! I will have time this afternoon and tomorrow to help create components.
~ Hermien
Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
Bertrand, many thanks.
Jiri and John, I have taken John's suggestion and, as a start, have created
four components:
apisupport - API docs
apisupport - Harness
apisupport - Maven
apisupport - Project
Please confirm that the above is what we want to do, then I'll add all the
other components in the same structure. Will wait to hear from Jiri before
continuing. (When you click "Create" on
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS, you'll see the above 4 in
the Components drop-down list.)
I'll also give permissions to Jirka, Hermien, John, and anyone else who,
after discussion, wants to be involved in the admin side of NetBeans JIRA.
Thanks,
Geertjan
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 9:47 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>
wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 12:17 AM, Geertjan Wielenga
> <ge...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > ...I don't believe I have access to create components either...
>
> I changed your user role, you should be able to do stuff now at
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/plugins/servlet/project-config/NETBEANS
>
> -Bertrand
>
Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 12:17 AM, Geertjan Wielenga
<ge...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> ...I don't believe I have access to create components either...
I changed your user role, you should be able to do stuff now at
https://issues.apache.org/jira/plugins/servlet/project-config/NETBEANS
-Bertrand
Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
I don't believe I have access to create components either, can someone
advise or a mentor assist with this, also how to get permissions for doing
this?
Thanks,
Geertjan
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 12:11 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Thanks a lot for this info.
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 12:10 AM, John McDonnell <mc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jiri,
>>
>> A JIRA project exists for Netbeans: https://issues.apache.org/jira
>> /browse/NETBEANS <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS>
>>
>> But I don’t believe the products/components have been migrated over, as
>> theres no components to select when I attempt to create a ticket.
>>
>>
>> Also looking at [1], it seems when migrating over from Bugzilla to JIRA,
>> the concept of Bugzilla products is the same as JIRA’s project, and then
>> component = component. What might be a limiting factor is the JIRA project
>> is NETBEANS, so we can’t seemingly just create new projects in JIRA as they
>> map to Apache projects as well.
>>
>> I assume you’d want to map each pairing as a component in JIRA, i.e. from
>> your original attachment:
>> 'apisupport - API Docs'
>> 'apisupport - Harness'
>> 'apisupport - Maven'
>> 'apisupport - Project'
>> 'cnd - Accessibility'
>> etc…
>>
>> Does this make sense?
>>
>> Also I don’t have access to create components, but if needed I could find
>> the time to help someone out how can...
>>
>>
>> [1]: https://confluence.atlassian.com/adminjiraserver073/importin
>> g-data-from-bugzilla-861253706.html#ImportingdatafromBugzill
>> a-jirafieldtipsTipsforimportingBugzilladataintoJIRAfields <
>> https://confluence.atlassian.com/adminjiraserver073/importi
>> ng-data-from-bugzilla-861253706.html#ImportingdatafromBugzil
>> la-jirafieldtipsTipsforimportingBugzilladataintoJIRAfields>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 7 Jun 2017, at 22:30, Jiří Kovalský <ji...@oracle.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Any update on this?
>> >
>> > Have JIRA been created for NetBeans already and products/components
>> setup?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > -Jirka
>> >
>> > Dne 16.5.2017 v 10:28 Jiří Kovalský napsal(a):
>> >> Dne 15.5.2017 v 10:42 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):
>> >>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Christian Lenz wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> When I have a look in my tickets, there are a lot of tickets, where
>> no one
>> >>>> is working on. Sure there is a person who is responsible for it but
>> I have
>> >>>> a lot of tickets where there is no single communication at all. So
>> those
>> >>>> tickets seems dead but they arn't. Most of the time those tickets are
>> >>>> feature requests. That should be handled by jira too and not
>> gettings lost.
>> >>>
>> >>> Definitely yes.
>> >> I also agree that it would be better if some volunteers take it over
>> and migrate those Bugzilla bugs/enhancements that will have corresponding
>> products/components in JIRA.
>> >> -Jirka
>> >>> Gj
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Christian Lenz <
>> Christian.Lenz@gmx.net>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> When I have a look in my tickets, there are a lot of tickets, where
>> no one
>> >>>> is working on. Sure there is a person who is responsible for it but
>> I have
>> >>>> a lot of tickets where there is no single communication at all. So
>> those
>> >>>> tickets seems dead but they arn't. Most of the time those tickets are
>> >>>> feature requests. That should be handled by jira too and not
>> gettings lost.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Mai 2017 um 11:12 Uhr
>> >>>>> Von: "Jiří Kovalský" <ji...@oracle.com>
>> >>>>> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>> >>>>> Betreff: Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I believe that those which will be worked on by somebody will be
>> >>>>> manually duplicated in JIRA a linked back to original Bugzilla
>> issue.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> -Jirka
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Dne 13.5.2017 v 11:47 Cezariusz Marek napsal(a):
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> What about open issues? How are you going to track them if you
>> won't
>> >>>> migrate them?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> Cezariusz Marek
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>> From: Jiří Kovalský [mailto:jiri.kovalsky@oracle.com]
>> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 11:39 AM
>> >>>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>> >>>>> Cc: Sean Carrick <Pe...@outlook.com>
>> >>>>> Subject: Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I don't think we should have component for every plugin and as for
>> >>>>> CakePHP there are only 18 CakePHP specific bugs in Bugzilla. The
>> last
>> >>>>> one #256685 [1] was resolved in November 2015.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> [1]
>> >>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__
>> >>>> netbeans.org_bugzilla_show-5Fbug.cgi-3Fid-3D256685&d=DwIFaQ&c=
>> >>>> RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=
>> >>>> lNbsjsPBIlkvLk3cCo-v9Cl8OCHz_BBqfpuXTKAlzb4&m=
>> >>>> EUQOw7cbL6aSw6jsTvlkOLwKoHt0qQwyP9cozE3PK7o&s=Bl57Fy4-rph-
>> >>>> 9F87uSknVK7mQf_i_sp3SlrN5-nEO6E&e=
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> And for the record I am against migrating any bugs from Bugzilla to
>> >>>>> JIRA. We will just switch Bugzilla to read-only mode and start
>> filing
>> >>>>> bugs to JIRA from issue #0 after donation is complete.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> -Jirka
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Dne 13.5.2017 v 01:40 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):
>> >>>>>> If CakePHP isn't listed specifically in the current Bugzilla then
>> it
>> >>>>>> won't be in the reduced list either. And Bugzilla has never had a
>> >>>>>> component for each plugin.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> The point is to try and maintain a list of products/components as
>> >>>>>> close to what there currently is, so that we can transfer issues
>> over
>> >>>>>> from the Oracle NetBeans bugtracker to the Apache NetBeans
>> bugtracker.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I strongly recommend we don't start thinking up new
>> >>>>>> products/components until we have a stable situation, i.e., until
>> we
>> >>>>>> have (1) set up the reduced list as categories in Apache NetBeans
>> >>>>>> bugtracker and (2) moved the issues from the Oracle bugtracker to
>> the
>> >>>> Apache bugtracker.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Gj
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 1:32 AM, Sean Carrick <
>> PekinSOFT@outlook.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Emi,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> That's what I was wondering...I couldn't remember if CakePHP was
>> in
>> >>>>>>> the Bugzilla system or not, but could have sworn I'd seen plugins
>> for
>> >>>>>>> CakePHP in NB...
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Sean Carrick
>> >>>>>>> VP Information Systems
>> >>>>>>> Integrity Solutions
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Sat, 2017-05-13 at 02:09 +0300, Emilian Bold wrote:
>> >>>>>>> This is a "reduced list". I don't see CakePHP in the current
>> Bugzilla
>> >>>>>>> either. I assume it falls under PHP?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> --emi
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:04 AM, Sean Carrick <
>> PekinSOFT@outlook.com
>> >>>>>>> <ma...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Jiri,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Looking through that list, I didn't see the CakePHP framework on
>> the
>> >>>>>>> list. Isn't CakePHP currently supported within NetBeans and
>> shouldn't
>> >>>>>>> there be a bug reporting combination on JIRA?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Sean Carrick
>> >>>>>>> VP Information Systems
>> >>>>>>> Integrity Solutions
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 2017-05-12 at 19:45 +0200, Jiří Kovalský wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> Hello NetBeans Apache Incubator community,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> in order to be prepared for switching NetBeans bug tracking
>> from
>> >>>>>>>> Bugzilla to JIRA we need to have appropriate products and
>> categories
>> >>>>>>>> created in JIRA.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> At the moment there are almost 600 combinations of products
>> and
>> >>>>>>>> components in the NetBeans Bugzilla but plenty of them are no
>> longer
>> >>>>>>>> used and are obsolete. That's why we have prepared a reduced
>> list of
>> >>>>>>>> these with ~230 combinations which we consider valid. It is
>> based on
>> >>>>>>>> the following criteria: the product/component was used in the
>> past 6
>> >>>>>>>> months and has at least 10 opened bugs. We also removed Oracle
>> >>>>>>>> hosting specific products like installers, qa, www etc. however
>> any
>> >>>>>>>> of these can be re-added in the future if needed of course.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Please review the list and comment if you have a strong opinion.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Since NetCAT 9.0 program is scheduled to start in early June
>> please
>> >>>>>>>> don't hesitate long with your feedback.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> And finally, who has the knowledge/access to JIRA to create these
>> >>>>>>>> products/components there?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Thanks and enjoy your weekends!
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> -Jirka
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
Thanks a lot for this info.
Gj
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 12:10 AM, John McDonnell <mc...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Jiri,
>
> A JIRA project exists for Netbeans: https://issues.apache.org/
> jira/browse/NETBEANS <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS>
>
> But I don’t believe the products/components have been migrated over, as
> theres no components to select when I attempt to create a ticket.
>
>
> Also looking at [1], it seems when migrating over from Bugzilla to JIRA,
> the concept of Bugzilla products is the same as JIRA’s project, and then
> component = component. What might be a limiting factor is the JIRA project
> is NETBEANS, so we can’t seemingly just create new projects in JIRA as they
> map to Apache projects as well.
>
> I assume you’d want to map each pairing as a component in JIRA, i.e. from
> your original attachment:
> 'apisupport - API Docs'
> 'apisupport - Harness'
> 'apisupport - Maven'
> 'apisupport - Project'
> 'cnd - Accessibility'
> etc…
>
> Does this make sense?
>
> Also I don’t have access to create components, but if needed I could find
> the time to help someone out how can...
>
>
> [1]: https://confluence.atlassian.com/adminjiraserver073/
> importing-data-from-bugzilla-861253706.html#ImportingdatafromBugzilla-
> jirafieldtipsTipsforimportingBugzilladataintoJIRAfields <
> https://confluence.atlassian.com/adminjiraserver073/
> importing-data-from-bugzilla-861253706.html#ImportingdatafromBugzilla-
> jirafieldtipsTipsforimportingBugzilladataintoJIRAfields>
>
> Regards
>
> John
>
>
>
> > On 7 Jun 2017, at 22:30, Jiří Kovalský <ji...@oracle.com> wrote:
> >
> > Any update on this?
> >
> > Have JIRA been created for NetBeans already and products/components
> setup?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Jirka
> >
> > Dne 16.5.2017 v 10:28 Jiří Kovalský napsal(a):
> >> Dne 15.5.2017 v 10:42 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):
> >>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Christian Lenz wrote:
> >>>
> >>> When I have a look in my tickets, there are a lot of tickets, where no
> one
> >>>> is working on. Sure there is a person who is responsible for it but I
> have
> >>>> a lot of tickets where there is no single communication at all. So
> those
> >>>> tickets seems dead but they arn't. Most of the time those tickets are
> >>>> feature requests. That should be handled by jira too and not gettings
> lost.
> >>>
> >>> Definitely yes.
> >> I also agree that it would be better if some volunteers take it over
> and migrate those Bugzilla bugs/enhancements that will have corresponding
> products/components in JIRA.
> >> -Jirka
> >>> Gj
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Christian Lenz <
> Christian.Lenz@gmx.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> When I have a look in my tickets, there are a lot of tickets, where
> no one
> >>>> is working on. Sure there is a person who is responsible for it but I
> have
> >>>> a lot of tickets where there is no single communication at all. So
> those
> >>>> tickets seems dead but they arn't. Most of the time those tickets are
> >>>> feature requests. That should be handled by jira too and not gettings
> lost.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Mai 2017 um 11:12 Uhr
> >>>>> Von: "Jiří Kovalský" <ji...@oracle.com>
> >>>>> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> >>>>> Betreff: Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I believe that those which will be worked on by somebody will be
> >>>>> manually duplicated in JIRA a linked back to original Bugzilla issue.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Jirka
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dne 13.5.2017 v 11:47 Cezariusz Marek napsal(a):
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> What about open issues? How are you going to track them if you won't
> >>>> migrate them?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Cezariusz Marek
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: Jiří Kovalský [mailto:jiri.kovalsky@oracle.com]
> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 11:39 AM
> >>>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> >>>>> Cc: Sean Carrick <Pe...@outlook.com>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I don't think we should have component for every plugin and as for
> >>>>> CakePHP there are only 18 CakePHP specific bugs in Bugzilla. The last
> >>>>> one #256685 [1] was resolved in November 2015.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1]
> >>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__
> >>>> netbeans.org_bugzilla_show-5Fbug.cgi-3Fid-3D256685&d=DwIFaQ&c=
> >>>> RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=
> >>>> lNbsjsPBIlkvLk3cCo-v9Cl8OCHz_BBqfpuXTKAlzb4&m=
> >>>> EUQOw7cbL6aSw6jsTvlkOLwKoHt0qQwyP9cozE3PK7o&s=Bl57Fy4-rph-
> >>>> 9F87uSknVK7mQf_i_sp3SlrN5-nEO6E&e=
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And for the record I am against migrating any bugs from Bugzilla to
> >>>>> JIRA. We will just switch Bugzilla to read-only mode and start filing
> >>>>> bugs to JIRA from issue #0 after donation is complete.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Jirka
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dne 13.5.2017 v 01:40 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):
> >>>>>> If CakePHP isn't listed specifically in the current Bugzilla then it
> >>>>>> won't be in the reduced list either. And Bugzilla has never had a
> >>>>>> component for each plugin.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The point is to try and maintain a list of products/components as
> >>>>>> close to what there currently is, so that we can transfer issues
> over
> >>>>>> from the Oracle NetBeans bugtracker to the Apache NetBeans
> bugtracker.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I strongly recommend we don't start thinking up new
> >>>>>> products/components until we have a stable situation, i.e., until we
> >>>>>> have (1) set up the reduced list as categories in Apache NetBeans
> >>>>>> bugtracker and (2) moved the issues from the Oracle bugtracker to
> the
> >>>> Apache bugtracker.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Gj
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 1:32 AM, Sean Carrick <
> PekinSOFT@outlook.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Emi,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> That's what I was wondering...I couldn't remember if CakePHP was in
> >>>>>>> the Bugzilla system or not, but could have sworn I'd seen plugins
> for
> >>>>>>> CakePHP in NB...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sean Carrick
> >>>>>>> VP Information Systems
> >>>>>>> Integrity Solutions
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sat, 2017-05-13 at 02:09 +0300, Emilian Bold wrote:
> >>>>>>> This is a "reduced list". I don't see CakePHP in the current
> Bugzilla
> >>>>>>> either. I assume it falls under PHP?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --emi
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:04 AM, Sean Carrick <
> PekinSOFT@outlook.com
> >>>>>>> <ma...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Jiri,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Looking through that list, I didn't see the CakePHP framework on
> the
> >>>>>>> list. Isn't CakePHP currently supported within NetBeans and
> shouldn't
> >>>>>>> there be a bug reporting combination on JIRA?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sean Carrick
> >>>>>>> VP Information Systems
> >>>>>>> Integrity Solutions
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Fri, 2017-05-12 at 19:45 +0200, Jiří Kovalský wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hello NetBeans Apache Incubator community,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> in order to be prepared for switching NetBeans bug tracking
> from
> >>>>>>>> Bugzilla to JIRA we need to have appropriate products and
> categories
> >>>>>>>> created in JIRA.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> At the moment there are almost 600 combinations of products and
> >>>>>>>> components in the NetBeans Bugzilla but plenty of them are no
> longer
> >>>>>>>> used and are obsolete. That's why we have prepared a reduced list
> of
> >>>>>>>> these with ~230 combinations which we consider valid. It is based
> on
> >>>>>>>> the following criteria: the product/component was used in the
> past 6
> >>>>>>>> months and has at least 10 opened bugs. We also removed Oracle
> >>>>>>>> hosting specific products like installers, qa, www etc. however
> any
> >>>>>>>> of these can be re-added in the future if needed of course.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Please review the list and comment if you have a strong opinion.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Since NetCAT 9.0 program is scheduled to start in early June
> please
> >>>>>>>> don't hesitate long with your feedback.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> And finally, who has the knowledge/access to JIRA to create these
> >>>>>>>> products/components there?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks and enjoy your weekends!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -Jirka
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
>
>
Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by John McDonnell <mc...@gmail.com>.
Hi Jiri,
A JIRA project exists for Netbeans: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS>
But I don’t believe the products/components have been migrated over, as theres no components to select when I attempt to create a ticket.
Also looking at [1], it seems when migrating over from Bugzilla to JIRA, the concept of Bugzilla products is the same as JIRA’s project, and then component = component. What might be a limiting factor is the JIRA project is NETBEANS, so we can’t seemingly just create new projects in JIRA as they map to Apache projects as well.
I assume you’d want to map each pairing as a component in JIRA, i.e. from your original attachment:
'apisupport - API Docs'
'apisupport - Harness'
'apisupport - Maven'
'apisupport - Project'
'cnd - Accessibility'
etc…
Does this make sense?
Also I don’t have access to create components, but if needed I could find the time to help someone out how can...
[1]: https://confluence.atlassian.com/adminjiraserver073/importing-data-from-bugzilla-861253706.html#ImportingdatafromBugzilla-jirafieldtipsTipsforimportingBugzilladataintoJIRAfields <https://confluence.atlassian.com/adminjiraserver073/importing-data-from-bugzilla-861253706.html#ImportingdatafromBugzilla-jirafieldtipsTipsforimportingBugzilladataintoJIRAfields>
Regards
John
> On 7 Jun 2017, at 22:30, Jiří Kovalský <ji...@oracle.com> wrote:
>
> Any update on this?
>
> Have JIRA been created for NetBeans already and products/components setup?
>
> Thanks,
> -Jirka
>
> Dne 16.5.2017 v 10:28 Jiří Kovalský napsal(a):
>> Dne 15.5.2017 v 10:42 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):
>>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Christian Lenz wrote:
>>>
>>> When I have a look in my tickets, there are a lot of tickets, where no one
>>>> is working on. Sure there is a person who is responsible for it but I have
>>>> a lot of tickets where there is no single communication at all. So those
>>>> tickets seems dead but they arn't. Most of the time those tickets are
>>>> feature requests. That should be handled by jira too and not gettings lost.
>>>
>>> Definitely yes.
>> I also agree that it would be better if some volunteers take it over and migrate those Bugzilla bugs/enhancements that will have corresponding products/components in JIRA.
>> -Jirka
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Christian Lenz <Ch...@gmx.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> When I have a look in my tickets, there are a lot of tickets, where no one
>>>> is working on. Sure there is a person who is responsible for it but I have
>>>> a lot of tickets where there is no single communication at all. So those
>>>> tickets seems dead but they arn't. Most of the time those tickets are
>>>> feature requests. That should be handled by jira too and not gettings lost.
>>>>
>>>>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Mai 2017 um 11:12 Uhr
>>>>> Von: "Jiří Kovalský" <ji...@oracle.com>
>>>>> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>> Betreff: Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe that those which will be worked on by somebody will be
>>>>> manually duplicated in JIRA a linked back to original Bugzilla issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Jirka
>>>>>
>>>>> Dne 13.5.2017 v 11:47 Cezariusz Marek napsal(a):
>>>>>
>>>>>> What about open issues? How are you going to track them if you won't
>>>> migrate them?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Cezariusz Marek
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Jiří Kovalský [mailto:jiri.kovalsky@oracle.com]
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 11:39 AM
>>>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>>> Cc: Sean Carrick <Pe...@outlook.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think we should have component for every plugin and as for
>>>>> CakePHP there are only 18 CakePHP specific bugs in Bugzilla. The last
>>>>> one #256685 [1] was resolved in November 2015.
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__
>>>> netbeans.org_bugzilla_show-5Fbug.cgi-3Fid-3D256685&d=DwIFaQ&c=
>>>> RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=
>>>> lNbsjsPBIlkvLk3cCo-v9Cl8OCHz_BBqfpuXTKAlzb4&m=
>>>> EUQOw7cbL6aSw6jsTvlkOLwKoHt0qQwyP9cozE3PK7o&s=Bl57Fy4-rph-
>>>> 9F87uSknVK7mQf_i_sp3SlrN5-nEO6E&e=
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And for the record I am against migrating any bugs from Bugzilla to
>>>>> JIRA. We will just switch Bugzilla to read-only mode and start filing
>>>>> bugs to JIRA from issue #0 after donation is complete.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Jirka
>>>>>
>>>>> Dne 13.5.2017 v 01:40 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):
>>>>>> If CakePHP isn't listed specifically in the current Bugzilla then it
>>>>>> won't be in the reduced list either. And Bugzilla has never had a
>>>>>> component for each plugin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The point is to try and maintain a list of products/components as
>>>>>> close to what there currently is, so that we can transfer issues over
>>>>>> from the Oracle NetBeans bugtracker to the Apache NetBeans bugtracker.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I strongly recommend we don't start thinking up new
>>>>>> products/components until we have a stable situation, i.e., until we
>>>>>> have (1) set up the reduced list as categories in Apache NetBeans
>>>>>> bugtracker and (2) moved the issues from the Oracle bugtracker to the
>>>> Apache bugtracker.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gj
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 1:32 AM, Sean Carrick <Pe...@outlook.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Emi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's what I was wondering...I couldn't remember if CakePHP was in
>>>>>>> the Bugzilla system or not, but could have sworn I'd seen plugins for
>>>>>>> CakePHP in NB...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sean Carrick
>>>>>>> VP Information Systems
>>>>>>> Integrity Solutions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 2017-05-13 at 02:09 +0300, Emilian Bold wrote:
>>>>>>> This is a "reduced list". I don't see CakePHP in the current Bugzilla
>>>>>>> either. I assume it falls under PHP?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --emi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:04 AM, Sean Carrick <PekinSOFT@outlook.com
>>>>>>> <ma...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Jiri,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking through that list, I didn't see the CakePHP framework on the
>>>>>>> list. Isn't CakePHP currently supported within NetBeans and shouldn't
>>>>>>> there be a bug reporting combination on JIRA?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sean Carrick
>>>>>>> VP Information Systems
>>>>>>> Integrity Solutions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 2017-05-12 at 19:45 +0200, Jiří Kovalský wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello NetBeans Apache Incubator community,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> in order to be prepared for switching NetBeans bug tracking from
>>>>>>>> Bugzilla to JIRA we need to have appropriate products and categories
>>>>>>>> created in JIRA.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At the moment there are almost 600 combinations of products and
>>>>>>>> components in the NetBeans Bugzilla but plenty of them are no longer
>>>>>>>> used and are obsolete. That's why we have prepared a reduced list of
>>>>>>>> these with ~230 combinations which we consider valid. It is based on
>>>>>>>> the following criteria: the product/component was used in the past 6
>>>>>>>> months and has at least 10 opened bugs. We also removed Oracle
>>>>>>>> hosting specific products like installers, qa, www etc. however any
>>>>>>>> of these can be re-added in the future if needed of course.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please review the list and comment if you have a strong opinion.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since NetCAT 9.0 program is scheduled to start in early June please
>>>>>>>> don't hesitate long with your feedback.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And finally, who has the knowledge/access to JIRA to create these
>>>>>>>> products/components there?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks and enjoy your weekends!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Jirka
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Jiří Kovalský <ji...@oracle.com>.
Any update on this?
Have JIRA been created for NetBeans already and products/components setup?
Thanks,
-Jirka
Dne 16.5.2017 v 10:28 Jiří Kovalský napsal(a):
> Dne 15.5.2017 v 10:42 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):
>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Christian Lenz wrote:
>>
>> When I have a look in my tickets, there are a lot of tickets, where no
>> one
>>> is working on. Sure there is a person who is responsible for it but I
>>> have
>>> a lot of tickets where there is no single communication at all. So those
>>> tickets seems dead but they arn't. Most of the time those tickets are
>>> feature requests. That should be handled by jira too and not gettings
>>> lost.
>>
>> Definitely yes.
>
> I also agree that it would be better if some volunteers take it over and
> migrate those Bugzilla bugs/enhancements that will have corresponding
> products/components in JIRA.
>
> -Jirka
>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Christian Lenz <Ch...@gmx.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> When I have a look in my tickets, there are a lot of tickets, where
>>> no one
>>> is working on. Sure there is a person who is responsible for it but I
>>> have
>>> a lot of tickets where there is no single communication at all. So those
>>> tickets seems dead but they arn't. Most of the time those tickets are
>>> feature requests. That should be handled by jira too and not gettings
>>> lost.
>>>
>>>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Mai 2017 um 11:12 Uhr
>>>> Von: "Jiří Kovalský" <ji...@oracle.com>
>>>> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>> Betreff: Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
>>>>
>>>> I believe that those which will be worked on by somebody will be
>>>> manually duplicated in JIRA a linked back to original Bugzilla issue.
>>>>
>>>> -Jirka
>>>>
>>>> Dne 13.5.2017 v 11:47 Cezariusz Marek napsal(a):
>>>>
>>>>> What about open issues? How are you going to track them if you won't
>>> migrate them?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cezariusz Marek
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Jiří Kovalský [mailto:jiri.kovalsky@oracle.com]
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 11:39 AM
>>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>>> Cc: Sean Carrick <Pe...@outlook.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
>>>>
>>>> I don't think we should have component for every plugin and as for
>>>> CakePHP there are only 18 CakePHP specific bugs in Bugzilla. The last
>>>> one #256685 [1] was resolved in November 2015.
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__
>>> netbeans.org_bugzilla_show-5Fbug.cgi-3Fid-3D256685&d=DwIFaQ&c=
>>> RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=
>>> lNbsjsPBIlkvLk3cCo-v9Cl8OCHz_BBqfpuXTKAlzb4&m=
>>> EUQOw7cbL6aSw6jsTvlkOLwKoHt0qQwyP9cozE3PK7o&s=Bl57Fy4-rph-
>>> 9F87uSknVK7mQf_i_sp3SlrN5-nEO6E&e=
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And for the record I am against migrating any bugs from Bugzilla to
>>>> JIRA. We will just switch Bugzilla to read-only mode and start filing
>>>> bugs to JIRA from issue #0 after donation is complete.
>>>>
>>>> -Jirka
>>>>
>>>> Dne 13.5.2017 v 01:40 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):
>>>>> If CakePHP isn't listed specifically in the current Bugzilla then it
>>>>> won't be in the reduced list either. And Bugzilla has never had a
>>>>> component for each plugin.
>>>>>
>>>>> The point is to try and maintain a list of products/components as
>>>>> close to what there currently is, so that we can transfer issues over
>>>>> from the Oracle NetBeans bugtracker to the Apache NetBeans bugtracker.
>>>>>
>>>>> I strongly recommend we don't start thinking up new
>>>>> products/components until we have a stable situation, i.e., until we
>>>>> have (1) set up the reduced list as categories in Apache NetBeans
>>>>> bugtracker and (2) moved the issues from the Oracle bugtracker to the
>>> Apache bugtracker.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gj
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 1:32 AM, Sean Carrick <Pe...@outlook.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Emi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's what I was wondering...I couldn't remember if CakePHP was in
>>>>>> the Bugzilla system or not, but could have sworn I'd seen plugins for
>>>>>> CakePHP in NB...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sean Carrick
>>>>>> VP Information Systems
>>>>>> Integrity Solutions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 2017-05-13 at 02:09 +0300, Emilian Bold wrote:
>>>>>> This is a "reduced list". I don't see CakePHP in the current Bugzilla
>>>>>> either. I assume it falls under PHP?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --emi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:04 AM, Sean Carrick <PekinSOFT@outlook.com
>>>>>> <ma...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> Jiri,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking through that list, I didn't see the CakePHP framework on the
>>>>>> list. Isn't CakePHP currently supported within NetBeans and shouldn't
>>>>>> there be a bug reporting combination on JIRA?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sean Carrick
>>>>>> VP Information Systems
>>>>>> Integrity Solutions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 2017-05-12 at 19:45 +0200, Jiří Kovalský wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello NetBeans Apache Incubator community,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> in order to be prepared for switching NetBeans bug tracking from
>>>>>>> Bugzilla to JIRA we need to have appropriate products and categories
>>>>>>> created in JIRA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At the moment there are almost 600 combinations of products and
>>>>>>> components in the NetBeans Bugzilla but plenty of them are no longer
>>>>>>> used and are obsolete. That's why we have prepared a reduced list of
>>>>>>> these with ~230 combinations which we consider valid. It is based on
>>>>>>> the following criteria: the product/component was used in the past 6
>>>>>>> months and has at least 10 opened bugs. We also removed Oracle
>>>>>>> hosting specific products like installers, qa, www etc. however any
>>>>>>> of these can be re-added in the future if needed of course.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please review the list and comment if you have a strong opinion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since NetCAT 9.0 program is scheduled to start in early June please
>>>>>>> don't hesitate long with your feedback.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And finally, who has the knowledge/access to JIRA to create these
>>>>>>> products/components there?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks and enjoy your weekends!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Jirka
>>>>
>>>
>>
Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Jiří Kovalský <ji...@oracle.com>.
Dne 15.5.2017 v 10:42 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Christian Lenz wrote:
>
> When I have a look in my tickets, there are a lot of tickets, where no one
>> is working on. Sure there is a person who is responsible for it but I have
>> a lot of tickets where there is no single communication at all. So those
>> tickets seems dead but they arn't. Most of the time those tickets are
>> feature requests. That should be handled by jira too and not gettings lost.
>
> Definitely yes.
I also agree that it would be better if some volunteers take it over and
migrate those Bugzilla bugs/enhancements that will have corresponding
products/components in JIRA.
-Jirka
> Gj
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Christian Lenz <Ch...@gmx.net>
> wrote:
>
>> When I have a look in my tickets, there are a lot of tickets, where no one
>> is working on. Sure there is a person who is responsible for it but I have
>> a lot of tickets where there is no single communication at all. So those
>> tickets seems dead but they arn't. Most of the time those tickets are
>> feature requests. That should be handled by jira too and not gettings lost.
>>
>>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Mai 2017 um 11:12 Uhr
>>> Von: "Jiří Kovalský" <ji...@oracle.com>
>>> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>> Betreff: Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
>>>
>>> I believe that those which will be worked on by somebody will be
>>> manually duplicated in JIRA a linked back to original Bugzilla issue.
>>>
>>> -Jirka
>>>
>>> Dne 13.5.2017 v 11:47 Cezariusz Marek napsal(a):
>>>
>>>> What about open issues? How are you going to track them if you won't
>> migrate them?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cezariusz Marek
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jiří Kovalský [mailto:jiri.kovalsky@oracle.com]
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 11:39 AM
>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>> Cc: Sean Carrick <Pe...@outlook.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
>>>
>>> I don't think we should have component for every plugin and as for
>>> CakePHP there are only 18 CakePHP specific bugs in Bugzilla. The last
>>> one #256685 [1] was resolved in November 2015.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__
>> netbeans.org_bugzilla_show-5Fbug.cgi-3Fid-3D256685&d=DwIFaQ&c=
>> RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=
>> lNbsjsPBIlkvLk3cCo-v9Cl8OCHz_BBqfpuXTKAlzb4&m=
>> EUQOw7cbL6aSw6jsTvlkOLwKoHt0qQwyP9cozE3PK7o&s=Bl57Fy4-rph-
>> 9F87uSknVK7mQf_i_sp3SlrN5-nEO6E&e=
>>>
>>>
>>> And for the record I am against migrating any bugs from Bugzilla to
>>> JIRA. We will just switch Bugzilla to read-only mode and start filing
>>> bugs to JIRA from issue #0 after donation is complete.
>>>
>>> -Jirka
>>>
>>> Dne 13.5.2017 v 01:40 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):
>>>> If CakePHP isn't listed specifically in the current Bugzilla then it
>>>> won't be in the reduced list either. And Bugzilla has never had a
>>>> component for each plugin.
>>>>
>>>> The point is to try and maintain a list of products/components as
>>>> close to what there currently is, so that we can transfer issues over
>>>> from the Oracle NetBeans bugtracker to the Apache NetBeans bugtracker.
>>>>
>>>> I strongly recommend we don't start thinking up new
>>>> products/components until we have a stable situation, i.e., until we
>>>> have (1) set up the reduced list as categories in Apache NetBeans
>>>> bugtracker and (2) moved the issues from the Oracle bugtracker to the
>> Apache bugtracker.
>>>>
>>>> Gj
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 1:32 AM, Sean Carrick <Pe...@outlook.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Emi,
>>>>>
>>>>> That's what I was wondering...I couldn't remember if CakePHP was in
>>>>> the Bugzilla system or not, but could have sworn I'd seen plugins for
>>>>> CakePHP in NB...
>>>>>
>>>>> Sean Carrick
>>>>> VP Information Systems
>>>>> Integrity Solutions
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 2017-05-13 at 02:09 +0300, Emilian Bold wrote:
>>>>> This is a "reduced list". I don't see CakePHP in the current Bugzilla
>>>>> either. I assume it falls under PHP?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --emi
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:04 AM, Sean Carrick <PekinSOFT@outlook.com
>>>>> <ma...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>>>> Jiri,
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking through that list, I didn't see the CakePHP framework on the
>>>>> list. Isn't CakePHP currently supported within NetBeans and shouldn't
>>>>> there be a bug reporting combination on JIRA?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sean Carrick
>>>>> VP Information Systems
>>>>> Integrity Solutions
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 2017-05-12 at 19:45 +0200, Jiří Kovalský wrote:
>>>>>> Hello NetBeans Apache Incubator community,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> in order to be prepared for switching NetBeans bug tracking from
>>>>>> Bugzilla to JIRA we need to have appropriate products and categories
>>>>>> created in JIRA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the moment there are almost 600 combinations of products and
>>>>>> components in the NetBeans Bugzilla but plenty of them are no longer
>>>>>> used and are obsolete. That's why we have prepared a reduced list of
>>>>>> these with ~230 combinations which we consider valid. It is based on
>>>>>> the following criteria: the product/component was used in the past 6
>>>>>> months and has at least 10 opened bugs. We also removed Oracle
>>>>>> hosting specific products like installers, qa, www etc. however any
>>>>>> of these can be re-added in the future if needed of course.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please review the list and comment if you have a strong opinion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since NetCAT 9.0 program is scheduled to start in early June please
>>>>>> don't hesitate long with your feedback.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And finally, who has the knowledge/access to JIRA to create these
>>>>>> products/components there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks and enjoy your weekends!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Jirka
>>>
>>
>
Re: Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Christian Lenz wrote:
When I have a look in my tickets, there are a lot of tickets, where no one
> is working on. Sure there is a person who is responsible for it but I have
> a lot of tickets where there is no single communication at all. So those
> tickets seems dead but they arn't. Most of the time those tickets are
> feature requests. That should be handled by jira too and not gettings lost.
Definitely yes.
Gj
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Christian Lenz <Ch...@gmx.net>
wrote:
> When I have a look in my tickets, there are a lot of tickets, where no one
> is working on. Sure there is a person who is responsible for it but I have
> a lot of tickets where there is no single communication at all. So those
> tickets seems dead but they arn't. Most of the time those tickets are
> feature requests. That should be handled by jira too and not gettings lost.
>
> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Mai 2017 um 11:12 Uhr
> > Von: "Jiří Kovalský" <ji...@oracle.com>
> > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Betreff: Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
> >
> > I believe that those which will be worked on by somebody will be
> > manually duplicated in JIRA a linked back to original Bugzilla issue.
> >
> > -Jirka
> >
> > Dne 13.5.2017 v 11:47 Cezariusz Marek napsal(a):
> >
> > > What about open issues? How are you going to track them if you won't
> migrate them?
> >
> > --
> > Cezariusz Marek
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jiří Kovalský [mailto:jiri.kovalsky@oracle.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 11:39 AM
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Cc: Sean Carrick <Pe...@outlook.com>
> > Subject: Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
> >
> > I don't think we should have component for every plugin and as for
> > CakePHP there are only 18 CakePHP specific bugs in Bugzilla. The last
> > one #256685 [1] was resolved in November 2015.
> >
> > [1]
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__
> netbeans.org_bugzilla_show-5Fbug.cgi-3Fid-3D256685&d=DwIFaQ&c=
> RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=
> lNbsjsPBIlkvLk3cCo-v9Cl8OCHz_BBqfpuXTKAlzb4&m=
> EUQOw7cbL6aSw6jsTvlkOLwKoHt0qQwyP9cozE3PK7o&s=Bl57Fy4-rph-
> 9F87uSknVK7mQf_i_sp3SlrN5-nEO6E&e=
> >
> >
> > And for the record I am against migrating any bugs from Bugzilla to
> > JIRA. We will just switch Bugzilla to read-only mode and start filing
> > bugs to JIRA from issue #0 after donation is complete.
> >
> > -Jirka
> >
> > Dne 13.5.2017 v 01:40 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):
> > > If CakePHP isn't listed specifically in the current Bugzilla then it
> > > won't be in the reduced list either. And Bugzilla has never had a
> > > component for each plugin.
> > >
> > > The point is to try and maintain a list of products/components as
> > > close to what there currently is, so that we can transfer issues over
> > > from the Oracle NetBeans bugtracker to the Apache NetBeans bugtracker.
> > >
> > > I strongly recommend we don't start thinking up new
> > > products/components until we have a stable situation, i.e., until we
> > > have (1) set up the reduced list as categories in Apache NetBeans
> > > bugtracker and (2) moved the issues from the Oracle bugtracker to the
> Apache bugtracker.
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > > On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 1:32 AM, Sean Carrick <Pe...@outlook.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Emi,
> > >>
> > >> That's what I was wondering...I couldn't remember if CakePHP was in
> > >> the Bugzilla system or not, but could have sworn I'd seen plugins for
> > >> CakePHP in NB...
> > >>
> > >> Sean Carrick
> > >> VP Information Systems
> > >> Integrity Solutions
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, 2017-05-13 at 02:09 +0300, Emilian Bold wrote:
> > >> This is a "reduced list". I don't see CakePHP in the current Bugzilla
> > >> either. I assume it falls under PHP?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --emi
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:04 AM, Sean Carrick <PekinSOFT@outlook.com
> > >> <ma...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> > >> Jiri,
> > >>
> > >> Looking through that list, I didn't see the CakePHP framework on the
> > >> list. Isn't CakePHP currently supported within NetBeans and shouldn't
> > >> there be a bug reporting combination on JIRA?
> > >>
> > >> Sean Carrick
> > >> VP Information Systems
> > >> Integrity Solutions
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, 2017-05-12 at 19:45 +0200, Jiří Kovalský wrote:
> > >>> Hello NetBeans Apache Incubator community,
> > >>>
> > >>> in order to be prepared for switching NetBeans bug tracking from
> > >>> Bugzilla to JIRA we need to have appropriate products and categories
> > >>> created in JIRA.
> > >>>
> > >>> At the moment there are almost 600 combinations of products and
> > >>> components in the NetBeans Bugzilla but plenty of them are no longer
> > >>> used and are obsolete. That's why we have prepared a reduced list of
> > >>> these with ~230 combinations which we consider valid. It is based on
> > >>> the following criteria: the product/component was used in the past 6
> > >>> months and has at least 10 opened bugs. We also removed Oracle
> > >>> hosting specific products like installers, qa, www etc. however any
> > >>> of these can be re-added in the future if needed of course.
> > >>>
> > >>> Please review the list and comment if you have a strong opinion.
> > >>>
> > >>> Since NetCAT 9.0 program is scheduled to start in early June please
> > >>> don't hesitate long with your feedback.
> > >>>
> > >>> And finally, who has the knowledge/access to JIRA to create these
> > >>> products/components there?
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks and enjoy your weekends!
> > >>>
> > >>> -Jirka
> >
>
Aw: Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Christian Lenz <Ch...@gmx.net>.
When I have a look in my tickets, there are a lot of tickets, where no one is working on. Sure there is a person who is responsible for it but I have a lot of tickets where there is no single communication at all. So those tickets seems dead but they arn't. Most of the time those tickets are feature requests. That should be handled by jira too and not gettings lost.
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Mai 2017 um 11:12 Uhr
> Von: "Jiří Kovalský" <ji...@oracle.com>
> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
>
> I believe that those which will be worked on by somebody will be
> manually duplicated in JIRA a linked back to original Bugzilla issue.
>
> -Jirka
>
> Dne 13.5.2017 v 11:47 Cezariusz Marek napsal(a):
>
> > What about open issues? How are you going to track them if you won't migrate them?
>
> --
> Cezariusz Marek
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jiří Kovalský [mailto:jiri.kovalsky@oracle.com]
> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 11:39 AM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Cc: Sean Carrick <Pe...@outlook.com>
> Subject: Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
>
> I don't think we should have component for every plugin and as for
> CakePHP there are only 18 CakePHP specific bugs in Bugzilla. The last
> one #256685 [1] was resolved in November 2015.
>
> [1]
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__netbeans.org_bugzilla_show-5Fbug.cgi-3Fid-3D256685&d=DwIFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=lNbsjsPBIlkvLk3cCo-v9Cl8OCHz_BBqfpuXTKAlzb4&m=EUQOw7cbL6aSw6jsTvlkOLwKoHt0qQwyP9cozE3PK7o&s=Bl57Fy4-rph-9F87uSknVK7mQf_i_sp3SlrN5-nEO6E&e=
>
>
> And for the record I am against migrating any bugs from Bugzilla to
> JIRA. We will just switch Bugzilla to read-only mode and start filing
> bugs to JIRA from issue #0 after donation is complete.
>
> -Jirka
>
> Dne 13.5.2017 v 01:40 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):
> > If CakePHP isn't listed specifically in the current Bugzilla then it
> > won't be in the reduced list either. And Bugzilla has never had a
> > component for each plugin.
> >
> > The point is to try and maintain a list of products/components as
> > close to what there currently is, so that we can transfer issues over
> > from the Oracle NetBeans bugtracker to the Apache NetBeans bugtracker.
> >
> > I strongly recommend we don't start thinking up new
> > products/components until we have a stable situation, i.e., until we
> > have (1) set up the reduced list as categories in Apache NetBeans
> > bugtracker and (2) moved the issues from the Oracle bugtracker to the Apache bugtracker.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 1:32 AM, Sean Carrick <Pe...@outlook.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Emi,
> >>
> >> That's what I was wondering...I couldn't remember if CakePHP was in
> >> the Bugzilla system or not, but could have sworn I'd seen plugins for
> >> CakePHP in NB...
> >>
> >> Sean Carrick
> >> VP Information Systems
> >> Integrity Solutions
> >>
> >> On Sat, 2017-05-13 at 02:09 +0300, Emilian Bold wrote:
> >> This is a "reduced list". I don't see CakePHP in the current Bugzilla
> >> either. I assume it falls under PHP?
> >>
> >>
> >> --emi
> >>
> >> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:04 AM, Sean Carrick <PekinSOFT@outlook.com
> >> <ma...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> >> Jiri,
> >>
> >> Looking through that list, I didn't see the CakePHP framework on the
> >> list. Isn't CakePHP currently supported within NetBeans and shouldn't
> >> there be a bug reporting combination on JIRA?
> >>
> >> Sean Carrick
> >> VP Information Systems
> >> Integrity Solutions
> >>
> >> On Fri, 2017-05-12 at 19:45 +0200, Jiří Kovalský wrote:
> >>> Hello NetBeans Apache Incubator community,
> >>>
> >>> in order to be prepared for switching NetBeans bug tracking from
> >>> Bugzilla to JIRA we need to have appropriate products and categories
> >>> created in JIRA.
> >>>
> >>> At the moment there are almost 600 combinations of products and
> >>> components in the NetBeans Bugzilla but plenty of them are no longer
> >>> used and are obsolete. That's why we have prepared a reduced list of
> >>> these with ~230 combinations which we consider valid. It is based on
> >>> the following criteria: the product/component was used in the past 6
> >>> months and has at least 10 opened bugs. We also removed Oracle
> >>> hosting specific products like installers, qa, www etc. however any
> >>> of these can be re-added in the future if needed of course.
> >>>
> >>> Please review the list and comment if you have a strong opinion.
> >>>
> >>> Since NetCAT 9.0 program is scheduled to start in early June please
> >>> don't hesitate long with your feedback.
> >>>
> >>> And finally, who has the knowledge/access to JIRA to create these
> >>> products/components there?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks and enjoy your weekends!
> >>>
> >>> -Jirka
>
Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Jiří Kovalský <ji...@oracle.com>.
I believe that those which will be worked on by somebody will be
manually duplicated in JIRA a linked back to original Bugzilla issue.
-Jirka
Dne 13.5.2017 v 11:47 Cezariusz Marek napsal(a):
> What about open issues? How are you going to track them if you won't migrate them?
--
Cezariusz Marek
-----Original Message-----
From: Jiří Kovalský [mailto:jiri.kovalsky@oracle.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 11:39 AM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Cc: Sean Carrick <Pe...@outlook.com>
Subject: Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
I don't think we should have component for every plugin and as for
CakePHP there are only 18 CakePHP specific bugs in Bugzilla. The last
one #256685 [1] was resolved in November 2015.
[1]
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__netbeans.org_bugzilla_show-5Fbug.cgi-3Fid-3D256685&d=DwIFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PQcxBKCX5YTpkKY057SbK10&r=lNbsjsPBIlkvLk3cCo-v9Cl8OCHz_BBqfpuXTKAlzb4&m=EUQOw7cbL6aSw6jsTvlkOLwKoHt0qQwyP9cozE3PK7o&s=Bl57Fy4-rph-9F87uSknVK7mQf_i_sp3SlrN5-nEO6E&e=
And for the record I am against migrating any bugs from Bugzilla to
JIRA. We will just switch Bugzilla to read-only mode and start filing
bugs to JIRA from issue #0 after donation is complete.
-Jirka
Dne 13.5.2017 v 01:40 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):
> If CakePHP isn't listed specifically in the current Bugzilla then it
> won't be in the reduced list either. And Bugzilla has never had a
> component for each plugin.
>
> The point is to try and maintain a list of products/components as
> close to what there currently is, so that we can transfer issues over
> from the Oracle NetBeans bugtracker to the Apache NetBeans bugtracker.
>
> I strongly recommend we don't start thinking up new
> products/components until we have a stable situation, i.e., until we
> have (1) set up the reduced list as categories in Apache NetBeans
> bugtracker and (2) moved the issues from the Oracle bugtracker to the Apache bugtracker.
>
> Gj
>
> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 1:32 AM, Sean Carrick <Pe...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
>> Emi,
>>
>> That's what I was wondering...I couldn't remember if CakePHP was in
>> the Bugzilla system or not, but could have sworn I'd seen plugins for
>> CakePHP in NB...
>>
>> Sean Carrick
>> VP Information Systems
>> Integrity Solutions
>>
>> On Sat, 2017-05-13 at 02:09 +0300, Emilian Bold wrote:
>> This is a "reduced list". I don't see CakePHP in the current Bugzilla
>> either. I assume it falls under PHP?
>>
>>
>> --emi
>>
>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:04 AM, Sean Carrick <PekinSOFT@outlook.com
>> <ma...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>> Jiri,
>>
>> Looking through that list, I didn't see the CakePHP framework on the
>> list. Isn't CakePHP currently supported within NetBeans and shouldn't
>> there be a bug reporting combination on JIRA?
>>
>> Sean Carrick
>> VP Information Systems
>> Integrity Solutions
>>
>> On Fri, 2017-05-12 at 19:45 +0200, Jiří Kovalský wrote:
>>> Hello NetBeans Apache Incubator community,
>>>
>>> in order to be prepared for switching NetBeans bug tracking from
>>> Bugzilla to JIRA we need to have appropriate products and categories
>>> created in JIRA.
>>>
>>> At the moment there are almost 600 combinations of products and
>>> components in the NetBeans Bugzilla but plenty of them are no longer
>>> used and are obsolete. That's why we have prepared a reduced list of
>>> these with ~230 combinations which we consider valid. It is based on
>>> the following criteria: the product/component was used in the past 6
>>> months and has at least 10 opened bugs. We also removed Oracle
>>> hosting specific products like installers, qa, www etc. however any
>>> of these can be re-added in the future if needed of course.
>>>
>>> Please review the list and comment if you have a strong opinion.
>>>
>>> Since NetCAT 9.0 program is scheduled to start in early June please
>>> don't hesitate long with your feedback.
>>>
>>> And finally, who has the knowledge/access to JIRA to create these
>>> products/components there?
>>>
>>> Thanks and enjoy your weekends!
>>>
>>> -Jirka
RE: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Cezariusz Marek <ce...@comarch.pl>.
What about open issues? How are you going to track them if you won't migrate them?
--
Cezariusz Marek
-----Original Message-----
From: Jiří Kovalský [mailto:jiri.kovalsky@oracle.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 11:39 AM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Cc: Sean Carrick <Pe...@outlook.com>
Subject: Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
I don't think we should have component for every plugin and as for CakePHP there are only 18 CakePHP specific bugs in Bugzilla. The last one #256685 [1] was resolved in November 2015.
[1] https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=256685
And for the record I am against migrating any bugs from Bugzilla to JIRA. We will just switch Bugzilla to read-only mode and start filing bugs to JIRA from issue #0 after donation is complete.
-Jirka
Dne 13.5.2017 v 01:40 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):
> If CakePHP isn't listed specifically in the current Bugzilla then it
> won't be in the reduced list either. And Bugzilla has never had a
> component for each plugin.
>
> The point is to try and maintain a list of products/components as
> close to what there currently is, so that we can transfer issues over
> from the Oracle NetBeans bugtracker to the Apache NetBeans bugtracker.
>
> I strongly recommend we don't start thinking up new
> products/components until we have a stable situation, i.e., until we
> have (1) set up the reduced list as categories in Apache NetBeans
> bugtracker and (2) moved the issues from the Oracle bugtracker to the Apache bugtracker.
>
> Gj
>
> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 1:32 AM, Sean Carrick <Pe...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
>> Emi,
>>
>> That's what I was wondering...I couldn't remember if CakePHP was in
>> the Bugzilla system or not, but could have sworn I'd seen plugins for
>> CakePHP in NB...
>>
>> Sean Carrick
>> VP Information Systems
>> Integrity Solutions
>>
>> On Sat, 2017-05-13 at 02:09 +0300, Emilian Bold wrote:
>> This is a "reduced list". I don't see CakePHP in the current Bugzilla
>> either. I assume it falls under PHP?
>>
>>
>> --emi
>>
>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:04 AM, Sean Carrick <PekinSOFT@outlook.com
>> <ma...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>> Jiri,
>>
>> Looking through that list, I didn't see the CakePHP framework on the
>> list. Isn't CakePHP currently supported within NetBeans and shouldn't
>> there be a bug reporting combination on JIRA?
>>
>> Sean Carrick
>> VP Information Systems
>> Integrity Solutions
>>
>> On Fri, 2017-05-12 at 19:45 +0200, Jiří Kovalský wrote:
>>> Hello NetBeans Apache Incubator community,
>>>
>>> in order to be prepared for switching NetBeans bug tracking from
>>> Bugzilla to JIRA we need to have appropriate products and categories
>>> created in JIRA.
>>>
>>> At the moment there are almost 600 combinations of products and
>>> components in the NetBeans Bugzilla but plenty of them are no longer
>>> used and are obsolete. That's why we have prepared a reduced list of
>>> these with ~230 combinations which we consider valid. It is based on
>>> the following criteria: the product/component was used in the past 6
>>> months and has at least 10 opened bugs. We also removed Oracle
>>> hosting specific products like installers, qa, www etc. however any
>>> of these can be re-added in the future if needed of course.
>>>
>>> Please review the list and comment if you have a strong opinion.
>>>
>>> Since NetCAT 9.0 program is scheduled to start in early June please
>>> don't hesitate long with your feedback.
>>>
>>> And finally, who has the knowledge/access to JIRA to create these
>>> products/components there?
>>>
>>> Thanks and enjoy your weekends!
>>>
>>> -Jirka
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Jiří Kovalský <ji...@oracle.com>.
I don't think we should have component for every plugin and as for
CakePHP there are only 18 CakePHP specific bugs in Bugzilla. The last
one #256685 [1] was resolved in November 2015.
[1] https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=256685
And for the record I am against migrating any bugs from Bugzilla to
JIRA. We will just switch Bugzilla to read-only mode and start filing
bugs to JIRA from issue #0 after donation is complete.
-Jirka
Dne 13.5.2017 v 01:40 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):
> If CakePHP isn't listed specifically in the current Bugzilla then it won't
> be in the reduced list either. And Bugzilla has never had a component for
> each plugin.
>
> The point is to try and maintain a list of products/components as close to
> what there currently is, so that we can transfer issues over from the
> Oracle NetBeans bugtracker to the Apache NetBeans bugtracker.
>
> I strongly recommend we don't start thinking up new products/components
> until we have a stable situation, i.e., until we have (1) set up the
> reduced list as categories in Apache NetBeans bugtracker and (2) moved the
> issues from the Oracle bugtracker to the Apache bugtracker.
>
> Gj
>
> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 1:32 AM, Sean Carrick <Pe...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
>> Emi,
>>
>> That's what I was wondering...I couldn't remember if CakePHP was in the
>> Bugzilla system or not, but could have sworn I'd seen plugins for CakePHP
>> in NB...
>>
>> Sean Carrick
>> VP Information Systems
>> Integrity Solutions
>>
>> On Sat, 2017-05-13 at 02:09 +0300, Emilian Bold wrote:
>> This is a "reduced list". I don't see CakePHP in the current Bugzilla
>> either. I assume it falls under PHP?
>>
>>
>> --emi
>>
>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:04 AM, Sean Carrick <PekinSOFT@outlook.com
>> <ma...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>> Jiri,
>>
>> Looking through that list, I didn't see the CakePHP framework on the
>> list. Isn't CakePHP currently supported within NetBeans and shouldn't
>> there be a bug reporting combination on JIRA?
>>
>> Sean Carrick
>> VP Information Systems
>> Integrity Solutions
>>
>> On Fri, 2017-05-12 at 19:45 +0200, Jiří Kovalský wrote:
>>> Hello NetBeans Apache Incubator community,
>>>
>>> in order to be prepared for switching NetBeans bug tracking from
>>> Bugzilla to JIRA we need to have appropriate products and categories
>>> created in JIRA.
>>>
>>> At the moment there are almost 600 combinations of products and
>>> components in the NetBeans Bugzilla but plenty of them are no longer
>>> used and are obsolete. That's why we have prepared a reduced list of
>>> these with ~230 combinations which we consider valid. It is based on
>>> the
>>> following criteria: the product/component was used in the past 6
>>> months
>>> and has at least 10 opened bugs. We also removed Oracle hosting
>>> specific
>>> products like installers, qa, www etc. however any of these can be
>>> re-added in the future if needed of course.
>>>
>>> Please review the list and comment if you have a strong opinion.
>>>
>>> Since NetCAT 9.0 program is scheduled to start in early June please
>>> don't hesitate long with your feedback.
>>>
>>> And finally, who has the knowledge/access to JIRA to create these
>>> products/components there?
>>>
>>> Thanks and enjoy your weekends!
>>>
>>> -Jirka
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
If CakePHP isn't listed specifically in the current Bugzilla then it won't
be in the reduced list either. And Bugzilla has never had a component for
each plugin.
The point is to try and maintain a list of products/components as close to
what there currently is, so that we can transfer issues over from the
Oracle NetBeans bugtracker to the Apache NetBeans bugtracker.
I strongly recommend we don't start thinking up new products/components
until we have a stable situation, i.e., until we have (1) set up the
reduced list as categories in Apache NetBeans bugtracker and (2) moved the
issues from the Oracle bugtracker to the Apache bugtracker.
Gj
On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 1:32 AM, Sean Carrick <Pe...@outlook.com> wrote:
> Emi,
>
> That's what I was wondering...I couldn't remember if CakePHP was in the
> Bugzilla system or not, but could have sworn I'd seen plugins for CakePHP
> in NB...
>
> Sean Carrick
> VP Information Systems
> Integrity Solutions
>
> On Sat, 2017-05-13 at 02:09 +0300, Emilian Bold wrote:
> This is a "reduced list". I don't see CakePHP in the current Bugzilla
> either. I assume it falls under PHP?
>
>
> --emi
>
> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:04 AM, Sean Carrick <PekinSOFT@outlook.com
> <ma...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> Jiri,
>
> Looking through that list, I didn't see the CakePHP framework on the
> list. Isn't CakePHP currently supported within NetBeans and shouldn't
> there be a bug reporting combination on JIRA?
>
> Sean Carrick
> VP Information Systems
> Integrity Solutions
>
> On Fri, 2017-05-12 at 19:45 +0200, Jiří Kovalský wrote:
> > Hello NetBeans Apache Incubator community,
> >
> > in order to be prepared for switching NetBeans bug tracking from
> > Bugzilla to JIRA we need to have appropriate products and categories
> > created in JIRA.
> >
> > At the moment there are almost 600 combinations of products and
> > components in the NetBeans Bugzilla but plenty of them are no longer
> > used and are obsolete. That's why we have prepared a reduced list of
> > these with ~230 combinations which we consider valid. It is based on
> > the
> > following criteria: the product/component was used in the past 6
> > months
> > and has at least 10 opened bugs. We also removed Oracle hosting
> > specific
> > products like installers, qa, www etc. however any of these can be
> > re-added in the future if needed of course.
> >
> > Please review the list and comment if you have a strong opinion.
> >
> > Since NetCAT 9.0 program is scheduled to start in early June please
> > don't hesitate long with your feedback.
> >
> > And finally, who has the knowledge/access to JIRA to create these
> > products/components there?
> >
> > Thanks and enjoy your weekends!
> >
> > -Jirka
>
>
>
Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Sean Carrick <Pe...@outlook.com>.
Emi,
That's what I was wondering...I couldn't remember if CakePHP was in the Bugzilla system or not, but could have sworn I'd seen plugins for CakePHP in NB...
Sean Carrick
VP Information Systems
Integrity Solutions
On Sat, 2017-05-13 at 02:09 +0300, Emilian Bold wrote:
This is a "reduced list". I don't see CakePHP in the current Bugzilla either. I assume it falls under PHP?
--emi
On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:04 AM, Sean Carrick <Pe...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Jiri,
Looking through that list, I didn't see the CakePHP framework on the
list. Isn't CakePHP currently supported within NetBeans and shouldn't
there be a bug reporting combination on JIRA?
Sean Carrick
VP Information Systems
Integrity Solutions
On Fri, 2017-05-12 at 19:45 +0200, Jiří Kovalský wrote:
> Hello NetBeans Apache Incubator community,
>
> in order to be prepared for switching NetBeans bug tracking from
> Bugzilla to JIRA we need to have appropriate products and categories
> created in JIRA.
>
> At the moment there are almost 600 combinations of products and
> components in the NetBeans Bugzilla but plenty of them are no longer
> used and are obsolete. That's why we have prepared a reduced list of
> these with ~230 combinations which we consider valid. It is based on
> the
> following criteria: the product/component was used in the past 6
> months
> and has at least 10 opened bugs. We also removed Oracle hosting
> specific
> products like installers, qa, www etc. however any of these can be
> re-added in the future if needed of course.
>
> Please review the list and comment if you have a strong opinion.
>
> Since NetCAT 9.0 program is scheduled to start in early June please
> don't hesitate long with your feedback.
>
> And finally, who has the knowledge/access to JIRA to create these
> products/components there?
>
> Thanks and enjoy your weekends!
>
> -Jirka
Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Emilian Bold <em...@gmail.com>.
This is a "reduced list". I don't see CakePHP in the current Bugzilla
either. I assume it falls under PHP?
--emi
On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:04 AM, Sean Carrick <Pe...@outlook.com> wrote:
> Jiri,
>
> Looking through that list, I didn't see the CakePHP framework on the
> list. Isn't CakePHP currently supported within NetBeans and shouldn't
> there be a bug reporting combination on JIRA?
>
> Sean Carrick
> VP Information Systems
> Integrity Solutions
>
> On Fri, 2017-05-12 at 19:45 +0200, Jiří Kovalský wrote:
> > Hello NetBeans Apache Incubator community,
> >
> > in order to be prepared for switching NetBeans bug tracking from
> > Bugzilla to JIRA we need to have appropriate products and categories
> > created in JIRA.
> >
> > At the moment there are almost 600 combinations of products and
> > components in the NetBeans Bugzilla but plenty of them are no longer
> > used and are obsolete. That's why we have prepared a reduced list of
> > these with ~230 combinations which we consider valid. It is based on
> > the
> > following criteria: the product/component was used in the past 6
> > months
> > and has at least 10 opened bugs. We also removed Oracle hosting
> > specific
> > products like installers, qa, www etc. however any of these can be
> > re-added in the future if needed of course.
> >
> > Please review the list and comment if you have a strong opinion.
> >
> > Since NetCAT 9.0 program is scheduled to start in early June please
> > don't hesitate long with your feedback.
> >
> > And finally, who has the knowledge/access to JIRA to create these
> > products/components there?
> >
> > Thanks and enjoy your weekends!
> >
> > -Jirka
>
Re: Products/Components structure for JIRA
Posted by Sean Carrick <Pe...@outlook.com>.
Jiri,
Looking through that list, I didn't see the CakePHP framework on the
list. Isn't CakePHP currently supported within NetBeans and shouldn't
there be a bug reporting combination on JIRA?
Sean Carrick
VP Information Systems
Integrity Solutions
On Fri, 2017-05-12 at 19:45 +0200, Jiří Kovalský wrote:
> Hello NetBeans Apache Incubator community,
>
> in order to be prepared for switching NetBeans bug tracking from
> Bugzilla to JIRA we need to have appropriate products and categories
> created in JIRA.
>
> At the moment there are almost 600 combinations of products and
> components in the NetBeans Bugzilla but plenty of them are no longer
> used and are obsolete. That's why we have prepared a reduced list of
> these with ~230 combinations which we consider valid. It is based on
> the
> following criteria: the product/component was used in the past 6
> months
> and has at least 10 opened bugs. We also removed Oracle hosting
> specific
> products like installers, qa, www etc. however any of these can be
> re-added in the future if needed of course.
>
> Please review the list and comment if you have a strong opinion.
>
> Since NetCAT 9.0 program is scheduled to start in early June please
> don't hesitate long with your feedback.
>
> And finally, who has the knowledge/access to JIRA to create these
> products/components there?
>
> Thanks and enjoy your weekends!
>
> -Jirka