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Posted to dev@milagro.apache.org by Tomasz Matecki <to...@miracl.com> on 2017/01/06 12:26:09 UTC

BOARD REPORT - JANUARY 2017

===============

Milagro Project (incubating)



Distributed Cryptography;

M-Pin and other pairing protocols for Identity and Trust

Milagro has been incubating since 2015-12-21.



Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:

1. Develop MILAGRO toolbox

2. Creating full working MILAGRO ecosystem, based on MILAGRO crypto library – further research and development (IoT, blockchain, fractions etc.)

3.  Building the MILAGRO community – engaging developers and cryptographers, raising awareness and helping to secure future of internet.



Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be aware of?

No.



How has the community developed since the last report?

After ApacheCon in Spain – MILAGRO was in the scope of interest, and we can see the increasing community interest in MILAGRO ecosystem.  In December 2016 MILAGRO ecosystem draft was published on MILAGRO mailing list and now we are looking to begin development of new structure.





How has the project developed since the last report?

In last few months the MILAGRO ecosystem proposal was developed and published in order to organize, and prioritize the MILAGRO workflow. In order to develop new structure, we are discussing new architecture of MILAGRO repositories.





Date of last release:

n/a



When were the last committers or PMC members elected?

n/a



Signed-off-by:





 [ ](milagro) Sterling Hughes



 [ ](milagro) Jan Willem Janssen



 [ ](milagro) Nick Kew







Shepherd/Mentor notes:

Re: BOARD REPORT - JANUARY 2017

Posted by Nick Kew <ni...@apache.org>.
On Fri, 6 Jan 2017 12:26:09 +0000
Tomasz Matecki <to...@miracl.com> wrote:

> ===============
> 
> Milagro Project (incubating)

OK, I submitted this last week, in the absence of
anything more recent.

I also added a mentor note expressing concern:

    I find it frustrating that after a year in incubation, dev activity
    and decisions still appear to be happening away from the dev list.
    Consequently there is little community activity beyond sporadic
    questions and answers which, while good, could equally be served by
    github alone.  I have discussed this with some of the team and
    understand there are good intentions for a push, and intend to post
    a critique of this report to try and 'nudge' the project.

So here goes with the critique.  This is not meant as a balanced
overview of what's right and wrong, but rather an explanation
of a single but crucial issue.

Basically, this is still not looking like an Apache project.
There are a very few active committers, and most commits seem to
be rather big pushes.  There's little visibility of the workings
of the project.

Let's consider Tom's report:

> Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
> 
> 1. Develop MILAGRO toolbox

This is fine as a project goal, but it's not an Apache goal or
an issue to consider for graduation.

Whether it really is a project goal seems undefined, in that it
doesn't arise from anything discussed on this list.  Where does
it come from?


> 2. Creating full working MILAGRO ecosystem, based on MILAGRO crypto
> library – further research and development (IoT, blockchain,
> fractions etc.)

Again, a project goal but not an incubation one.  Though in this
case where it comes from seems clearer: kind-of implied in the
original proposal for incubation at Apache!

> 3.  Building the MILAGRO community – engaging developers and
> cryptographers, raising awareness and helping to secure future of
> internet.

This is a proper incubation goal.


Can I suggest folks take a look at
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/milagro.html
which should track progress through incubation
(though to be honest I haven't updated it since
we first entered incubation).


> How has the community developed since the last report?
> 
> After ApacheCon in Spain – MILAGRO was in the scope of interest, and
> we can see the increasing community interest in MILAGRO ecosystem.
> In December 2016 MILAGRO ecosystem draft was published on MILAGRO
> mailing list and now we are looking to begin development of new
> structure.
> 
> How has the project developed since the last report?
> 
> In last few months the MILAGRO ecosystem proposal was developed and
> published in order to organize, and prioritize the MILAGRO workflow.
> In order to develop new structure, we are discussing new architecture
> of MILAGRO repositories.

The ecosystem draft was posted as a more-or-less finished
white paper, with an apology for the lack of preceding
discussion on-list.  I hope we'll see more of the activity
and thought processes leading to such documents in future,
but it still seems very quiet.

> Date of last release:
> 
> n/a

Release early, release often!  This *is* an incubation goal.
Releases don't have to be production-ready, provided they're
marked with the appropriate warnings.

> When were the last committers or PMC members elected?
> 
> n/a

The fundamental issue is that it still feels that lots of
interesting activity is happening elsewhere.  What happens
in public is great as far as it goes, but it doesn't feel
inclusive.


On the plus side, some of the core Milagro folks are
reacting well when third-parties show interest, albeit
more on github than apache!


Re: BOARD REPORT - JANUARY 2017

Posted by Nick Kew <ni...@apache.org>.
On Fri, 2017-02-03 at 04:01 +0000, John D. Ament wrote:
> Milago PPMC
> 
> I'll point out that your January report was never filed, and thus far nothing posted for February.  Will you be able to create a report? If not, what are the blockers?

I've cut&pasted this into the Feb. report.

I also have some comments, which I intend to post here.

-- 
Nick Kew


Re: BOARD REPORT - JANUARY 2017

Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
Milago PPMC

I'll point out that your January report was never filed, and thus far nothing posted for February.  Will you be able to create a report? If not, what are the blockers?

John

On 2017-01-06 07:26 (-0500), Tomasz Matecki <to...@miracl.com> wrote: 
> ===============
> 
> Milagro Project (incubating)
> 
> 
> 
> Distributed Cryptography;
> 
> M-Pin and other pairing protocols for Identity and Trust
> 
> Milagro has been incubating since 2015-12-21.
> 
> 
> 
> Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
> 
> 1. Develop MILAGRO toolbox
> 
> 2. Creating full working MILAGRO ecosystem, based on MILAGRO crypto library \u2013 further research and development (IoT, blockchain, fractions etc.)
> 
> 3.  Building the MILAGRO community \u2013 engaging developers and cryptographers, raising awareness and helping to secure future of internet.
> 
> 
> 
> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be aware of?
> 
> No.
> 
> 
> 
> How has the community developed since the last report?
> 
> After ApacheCon in Spain \u2013 MILAGRO was in the scope of interest, and we can see the increasing community interest in MILAGRO ecosystem.  In December 2016 MILAGRO ecosystem draft was published on MILAGRO mailing list and now we are looking to begin development of new structure.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> How has the project developed since the last report?
> 
> In last few months the MILAGRO ecosystem proposal was developed and published in order to organize, and prioritize the MILAGRO workflow. In order to develop new structure, we are discussing new architecture of MILAGRO repositories.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Date of last release:
> 
> n/a
> 
> 
> 
> When were the last committers or PMC members elected?
> 
> n/a
> 
> 
> 
> Signed-off-by:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  [ ](milagro) Sterling Hughes
> 
> 
> 
>  [ ](milagro) Jan Willem Janssen
> 
> 
> 
>  [ ](milagro) Nick Kew
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Shepherd/Mentor notes:
>