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[incubator-ponymail-unit-tests] branch master updated: Get sample mbox from ASF archive; skip full generator

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     new 119a16c  Get sample mbox from ASF archive; skip full generator
119a16c is described below

commit 119a16c8585cc4d10fac508fc07ae059704dccc8
Author: Sebb <se...@apache.org>
AuthorDate: Tue Aug 18 15:16:31 2020 +0100

    Get sample mbox from ASF archive; skip full generator
---
 corpus/users_httpd_apache_org_2020-07.asf.mbox | 19588 +++++++++++++++++++++++
 yaml/generators-httpd-user_asf.yaml            |  1630 ++
 yaml/parsing-users-httpd-2020-07_asf.yaml      |   466 +
 3 files changed, 21684 insertions(+)

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+From: David Mehler <da...@gmail.com>
+Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 01:03:41 -0400
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+To: users@httpd.apache.org
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
+Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache virtual hosts listening on specific IPv6 addresses
+
+Hello,
+
+Thanks, actually turned out to be a firewall issue.
+
+Thanks a lot.
+Dave.
+
+
+On 6/28/20, Antony Stone <An...@apache.open.source.it> wrote:
+> On Sunday 28 June 2020 at 17:44:48, David Mehler wrote:
+>
+>> Hello,
+>>
+>> Yes netstat does show that the sockets are listening on the correct
+>> addresses.
+>>
+>> As for wireshark/tshark can you give me a quick howto to get you the
+>> answer to your question? I've never used it.
+>
+> tshark -i eth0 -f "port 443 and host aaaa:bbb:cc::dddd:eeee"
+>
+> Change "eth0" if that's not your external interface name, and just put in
+> one
+> of your IPv6 addresses as indicated.
+>
+>
+> Antony.
+>
+> --
+> How many Prolog programmers does it take to change a lightbulb?
+> No.
+>
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+Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 10:33:53 -0400
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+Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000006527f05a9622ffd"
+Subject: [users@httpd] Apache rewritemap condition that will CDIR-ipmatch against returned
+ value from the map?
+
+--00000000000006527f05a9622ffd
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
+Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
+
+Hello, I have a ipfileblocklist text file that has over 10,000 ip addresses
+that need to be matched against. We managed to do a RewriteCond expr  "
+(%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch 'X.X.X.X' )=E2=80=9D on the cdir ipmatch=
+ that
+comes back from the F5 but there are too many single rewrite cond
+exprs that are being called and it caused apache to slow down or lock  due
+to each singular condition call within the file.
+
+
+Over 60000 plus single condition calls in our separate ipblocking file.
+This causes a huge load on the apache server and locks the system.
+
+    RewriteCond expr  " (%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch 'X.X.X.X' )=E2=
+=80=9D
+
+     RewriteCond expr  " (%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch 'X.X.X.X' )=E2=
+=80=9D
+
+    RewriteCond expr  " (%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch 'X.X.X.X' )=E2=
+=80=9D
+
+
+
+
+We want to load the ips into a rewritemap text or db and call them but the
+mapping condition on the CDIR seems to be off somewhat and doesn't work.
+
+Also, as the file grows do you have any recommendations on iobuffering or
+slow down loading the data into a map?
+
+
+Our file has a list of ips like to so. The condition will check each
+beginning and end with b$
+
+142.255.85.0/17   b
+
+65.144.129.15/1   b
+
+
+
+RewriteMap ipblocklist =E2=80=9Ctxt:/path/to/ipblocklist.txt=E2=80=9D
+
+  RewriteCond "${ipblocklist:% ({HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch  ^b$)=E2=
+=80=9D
+ [NC]
+
+  RewriteCond ${ipblocklist:%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch}}
+ ^b$            [NC]
+
+RewriteRule ^/[^/]+/Main/ad/ - [F,L]
+
+--00000000000006527f05a9622ffd
+Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
+Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
+
+<div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;font-family:&quot;Sego=
+e UI&quot;,system-ui,&quot;Apple Color Emoji&quot;,&quot;Segoe UI Emoji&quo=
+t;,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><span style=
+=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Hello, I have a ipfileblocklist=C2=A0te=
+xt file that has over 10,000 ip addresses that need to be matched against. =
+We managed to do a=C2=A0</span></span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sa=
+ns-serif;font-size:14.6667px;background-color:rgb(252,209,22)">Rewri</span>=
+<span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px">teCond e=
+xpr =C2=A0&quot; (%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch &#39;X.X.X.X&#39; )=E2=
+=80=9D on the cdir ipmatch that comes back from the F5 but there are too ma=
+ny single rewrite cond exprs=C2=A0that are being called and it caused apach=
+e to slow down or lock=C2=A0 due to each singular condition call within the=
+ file.=C2=A0</span></p><p><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;fon=
+t-size:14.6667px"><br></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans=
+-serif;font-size:14.6667px">Over 60000 plus single condition calls in our s=
+eparate=C2=A0ipblocking file. This causes a huge load on the apache server =
+and locks the system.=C2=A0</span></p><p>=C2=A0=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-si=
+ze:11pt"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0=C2=A0</span>=
+</span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;ba=
+ckground-color:rgb(252,209,22)">Rewri</span><span style=3D"font-family:Cali=
+bri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px">teCond expr =C2=A0&quot; (%{HTTP:x-etsc=
+-client-ip} -ipmatch &#39;X.X.X.X&#39; )=E2=80=9D</span></p><p><span style=
+=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px">=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=
+</span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sa=
+ns-serif">=C2=A0</span></span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif=
+;font-size:14.6667px;background-color:rgb(252,209,22)">Rewri</span><span st=
+yle=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px">teCond expr =C2=
+=A0&quot; (%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch &#39;X.X.X.X&#39; )=E2=80=9D</=
+span></p><p><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667=
+px">=C2=A0=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><span style=3D"font-f=
+amily:Calibri,sans-serif">=C2=A0=C2=A0</span></span><span style=3D"font-fam=
+ily:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;background-color:rgb(252,209,22)=
+">Rewri</span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.66=
+67px">teCond expr =C2=A0&quot; (%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch &#39;X.X.=
+X.X&#39; )=E2=80=9D</span></p><p>=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,s=
+ans-serif;font-size:14.6667px"><br></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-family=
+:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px"><br></span></p><p><span style=3D"f=
+ont-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px">We want to load the ips =
+into a rewritemap text or db and call them but the mapping condition on the=
+ CDIR seems to be off somewhat and doesn&#39;t work.=C2=A0</span></p><p><sp=
+an style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px">Also, as th=
+e file grows do you have any recommendations on iobuffering=C2=A0or slow do=
+wn loading the data into a map?=C2=A0 =C2=A0</span></p><p><span style=3D"fo=
+nt-size:11pt"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br></span></s=
+pan></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibr=
+i,sans-serif">Our file has a list of ips like to so. The condition will che=
+ck each beginning and end with b$ </span></span></p>
+
+
+
+<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-s=
+erif"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Couri=
+er New&quot;"><a href=3D"http://142.255.85.0/17">142.255.85.0/17</a> =C2=A0=
+=C2=A0b</span></span></span></span></p>
+
+
+
+<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-s=
+erif"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Couri=
+er New&quot;"><a href=3D"http://65.144.129.15/1">65.144.129.15/1</a>=C2=A0 =
+=C2=A0b</span></span></span></span></p>
+
+
+
+<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-s=
+erif"></span></span>=C2=A0</p>
+
+
+
+<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline"><=
+span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"border:1pt non=
+e windowtext;padding:0in">RewriteMap ipblocklist =E2=80=9Ctxt:/path/to/ipbl=
+ocklist.txt=E2=80=9D</span></span></span></span></p>
+
+
+
+<p><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(0,255,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
+1pt"><span style=3D"vertical-align:baseline"><span style=3D"font-family:Cal=
+ibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"border:1pt none windowtext;padding:0in"></s=
+pan></span></span></span>=C2=A0=20
+
+RewriteCond &quot;${ipblocklist:% ({HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch=C2=A0 ^=
+b$)=E2=80=9D=C2=A0 =C2=A0[NC]</span></p>
+
+
+
+<p style=3D"margin-bottom:32px"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><span style=
+=3D"vertical-align:baseline"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;=
+background-color:rgb(0,255,0)">=C2=A0 RewriteCond ${ipblocklist:%{HTTP:x-et=
+sc-client-ip} -ipmatch}} =C2=A0^b$=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
+=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 [NC]</span></span></span></p>
+
+
+
+<p style=3D"margin-bottom:32px"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><span style=
+=3D"background-color:rgb(240,242,244)"><span style=3D"vertical-align:baseli=
+ne"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">RewriteRule ^/[^/]+/Main=
+/ad/ - [F,L]</span></span></span></span></p></div></div>
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+Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache rewritemap condition that will CDIR-ipmatch
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+
+Depends on not =E2=80=99smarter thinking=E2=80=99 but 'out of the box' =
+thinking=E2=80=A6 I can block a few hundred thousand IP=E2=80=99s with =
+just THREE characters ! Not boasting but I have half of China and Russia =
+blocked if not 3/4 with less than 30 characters=E2=80=A6 So I suggest =
+(with the aid of the 'GREP' command) to ascertain which countries you =
+won=E2=80=99t deal with and block whole IP blocks or domain suffixes=E2=80=
+=A6. ONE possible solution and a LOT less work :) Anyone blocked can =
+ALWAYS email me if they are a genuine customer and ask WHY they are =
+blocked if they feel it=E2=80=99s a wrong decision, 99.99% don=E2=80=99t =
+because MOST bad IP requests are automated, so no loss there=E2=80=A6.
+
+Angel
+Scotland.
+
+> On 1 Jul 2020, at 15:33, Wendell Hatcher =
+<we...@gmail.com> wrote:
+>=20
+> Hello, I have a ipfileblocklist text file that has over 10,000 ip =
+addresses that need to be matched against. We managed to do a =
+RewriteCond expr  " (%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch 'X.X.X.X' )=E2=80=9D=
+ on the cdir ipmatch that comes back from the F5 but there are too many =
+single rewrite cond exprs that are being called and it caused apache to =
+slow down or lock  due to each singular condition call within the file.
+>=20
+>=20
+>=20
+> Over 60000 plus single condition calls in our separate ipblocking =
+file. This causes a huge load on the apache server and locks the system.
+>=20
+>     RewriteCond expr  " (%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch 'X.X.X.X' =
+)=E2=80=9D
+>=20
+>      RewriteCond expr  " (%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch 'X.X.X.X' =
+)=E2=80=9D
+>=20
+>     RewriteCond expr  " (%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch 'X.X.X.X' =
+)=E2=80=9D
+>=20
+>=20
+>=20
+>=20
+>=20
+> We want to load the ips into a rewritemap text or db and call them but =
+the mapping condition on the CDIR seems to be off somewhat and doesn't =
+work.
+>=20
+> Also, as the file grows do you have any recommendations on iobuffering =
+or slow down loading the data into a map?
+>=20
+>=20
+>=20
+> Our file has a list of ips like to so. The condition will check each =
+beginning and end with b$
+>=20
+> 142.255.85.0/17 <http://142.255.85.0/17>   b
+>=20
+> 65.144.129.15/1 <http://65.144.129.15/1>   b
+>=20
+>=20
+> RewriteMap ipblocklist =E2=80=9Ctxt:/path/to/ipblocklist.txt=E2=80=9D
+>=20
+>   RewriteCond "${ipblocklist:% ({HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch  =
+^b$)=E2=80=9D   [NC]
+>=20
+>   RewriteCond ${ipblocklist:%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch}}  ^b$   =
+         [NC]
+>=20
+> RewriteRule ^/[^/]+/Main/ad/ - [F,L]
+>=20
+
+
+--Apple-Mail=_BD9E4C48-DA16-41A4-B360-505F8645B82E
+Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
+Content-Type: text/html;
+	charset=utf-8
+
+<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
+charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
+-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
+class=3D"">Depends on not =E2=80=99smarter thinking=E2=80=99 but 'out of =
+the box' thinking=E2=80=A6 I can block a few hundred thousand IP=E2=80=99s=
+ with just THREE characters ! Not boasting but I have half of China and =
+Russia blocked if not 3/4 with less than 30 characters=E2=80=A6 So I =
+suggest (with the aid of the 'GREP' command) to ascertain which =
+countries you won=E2=80=99t deal with and block whole IP blocks or =
+domain suffixes=E2=80=A6. ONE possible solution and a LOT less work :) =
+Anyone blocked can ALWAYS email me if they are a genuine customer and =
+ask WHY they are blocked if they feel it=E2=80=99s a wrong decision, =
+99.99% don=E2=80=99t because MOST bad IP requests are automated, so no =
+loss there=E2=80=A6.&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
+class=3D"">Angel</div><div class=3D"">Scotland.<br class=3D""><div><br =
+class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 1 Jul =
+2020, at 15:33, Wendell Hatcher &lt;<a =
+href=3D"mailto:wendellhatcher1074@gmail.com" =
+class=3D"">wendellhatcher1074@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
+class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
+class=3D""><div style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;font-family:&quot;Segoe =
+UI&quot;,system-ui,&quot;Apple Color Emoji&quot;,&quot;Segoe UI =
+Emoji&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:14px" class=3D""><p class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=3D"">Hello, I have a =
+ipfileblocklist&nbsp;text file that has over 10,000 ip addresses that =
+need to be matched against. We managed to do a&nbsp;</span></span><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;background-col=
+or:rgb(252,209,22)" class=3D"">Rewri</span><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" =
+class=3D"">teCond expr &nbsp;" (%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch =
+'X.X.X.X' )=E2=80=9D on the cdir ipmatch that comes back from the F5 but =
+there are too many single rewrite cond exprs&nbsp;that are being called =
+and it caused apache to slow down or lock&nbsp; due to each singular =
+condition call within the file.&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" =
+class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></p><p class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" =
+class=3D"">Over 60000 plus single condition calls in our =
+separate&nbsp;ipblocking file. This causes a huge load on the apache =
+server and locks the system.&nbsp;</span></p><p =
+class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;<span style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" =
+class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></span><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;background-col=
+or:rgb(252,209,22)" class=3D"">Rewri</span><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" =
+class=3D"">teCond expr &nbsp;" (%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch =
+'X.X.X.X' )=E2=80=9D</span></p><p class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" =
+class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt" =
+class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" =
+class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></span><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;background-col=
+or:rgb(252,209,22)" class=3D"">Rewri</span><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" =
+class=3D"">teCond expr &nbsp;" (%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch =
+'X.X.X.X' )=E2=80=9D</span></p><p class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" =
+class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt" =
+class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" =
+class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></span><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;background-col=
+or:rgb(252,209,22)" class=3D"">Rewri</span><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" =
+class=3D"">teCond expr &nbsp;" (%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch =
+'X.X.X.X' )=E2=80=9D</span></p><p class=3D"">&nbsp;<span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" =
+class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></p><p class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" =
+class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></p><p class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" class=3D"">We=
+ want to load the ips into a rewritemap text or db and call them but the =
+mapping condition on the CDIR seems to be off somewhat and doesn't =
+work.&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" =
+class=3D"">Also, as the file grows do you have any recommendations on =
+iobuffering&nbsp;or slow down loading the data into a map?&nbsp; =
+&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:11pt" =
+class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=3D""><br =
+class=3D""></span></span></p><p class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:11pt" =
+class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=3D"">Our =
+file has a list of ips like to so. The condition will check each =
+beginning and end with b$ </span></span></p><p class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-size:10pt" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;" class=3D""><a =
+href=3D"http://142.255.85.0/17" class=3D"">142.255.85.0/17</a> =
+&nbsp;&nbsp;b</span></span></span></span></p><p class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-size:10pt" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;" class=3D""><a =
+href=3D"http://65.144.129.15/1" class=3D"">65.144.129.15/1</a>&nbsp; =
+&nbsp;b</span></span></span></span></p><div class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" =
+class=3D""></span></span>&nbsp;<br =
+class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"vertical-align:baseline" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"border:1pt none windowtext;padding:0in" class=3D"">RewriteMap =
+ipblocklist =
+=E2=80=9Ctxt:/path/to/ipblocklist.txt=E2=80=9D</span></span></span></span>=
+</p><p class=3D""><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(0,255,0)" =
+class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"vertical-align:baseline" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"border:1pt none windowtext;padding:0in" =
+class=3D""></span></span></span></span>&nbsp;=20
+
+RewriteCond "${ipblocklist:% ({HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch&nbsp; =
+^b$)=E2=80=9D&nbsp; &nbsp;[NC]</span></p><p style=3D"margin-bottom:32px" =
+class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"vertical-align:baseline" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(0,255,0)" =
+class=3D"">&nbsp; RewriteCond ${ipblocklist:%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} =
+-ipmatch}} =
+&nbsp;^b$&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
+; [NC]</span></span></span></p><p style=3D"margin-bottom:32px" =
+class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"background-color:rgb(240,242,244)" class=3D""><span =
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+Angel, you are the man what you did in your solution is exactly what we are t=
+rying to do block certain countries. I am leaning towards using Perl to loop=
+ through the bad ips list on a text file and then take the blocked ip match b=
+locking similar to the solution in the link below.  Can you please take a lo=
+ok and provide me with a high-level code set of how you completed this and g=
+ot it working with Apache?
+
+https://www.ispcolohost.com/2017/02/03/keeping-amazon-ec2-crap-off-your-webs=
+ite/
+
+Wendell
+
+> On Jul 1, 2020, at 1:42 PM, angel Hall-Coulston <rammsteinium@me.com.inval=
+id> wrote:
+>=20
+> =EF=BB=BFDepends on not =E2=80=99smarter thinking=E2=80=99 but 'out of the=
+ box' thinking=E2=80=A6 I can block a few hundred thousand IP=E2=80=99s with=
+ just THREE characters ! Not boasting but I have half of China and Russia bl=
+ocked if not 3/4 with less than 30 characters=E2=80=A6 So I suggest (with th=
+e aid of the 'GREP' command) to ascertain which countries you won=E2=80=99t d=
+eal with and block whole IP blocks or domain suffixes=E2=80=A6. ONE possible=
+ solution and a LOT less work :) Anyone blocked can ALWAYS email me if they a=
+re a genuine customer and ask WHY they are blocked if they feel it=E2=80=99s=
+ a wrong decision, 99.99% don=E2=80=99t because MOST bad IP requests are aut=
+omated, so no loss there=E2=80=A6.=20
+>=20
+> Angel
+> Scotland.
+>=20
+>> On 1 Jul 2020, at 15:33, Wendell Hatcher <we...@gmail.com> w=
+rote:
+>>=20
+>> Hello, I have a ipfileblocklist text file that has over 10,000 ip address=
+es that need to be matched against. We managed to do a RewriteCond expr  " (=
+%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch 'X.X.X.X' )=E2=80=9D on the cdir ipmatch t=
+hat comes back from the F5 but there are too many single rewrite cond exprs t=
+hat are being called and it caused apache to slow down or lock  due to each s=
+ingular condition call within the file.=20
+>>=20
+>>=20
+>>=20
+>> Over 60000 plus single condition calls in our separate ipblocking file. T=
+his causes a huge load on the apache server and locks the system.=20
+>>=20
+>>     RewriteCond expr  " (%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch 'X.X.X.X' )=E2=
+=80=9D
+>>=20
+>>      RewriteCond expr  " (%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch 'X.X.X.X' )=E2=
+=80=9D
+>>=20
+>>     RewriteCond expr  " (%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch 'X.X.X.X' )=E2=
+=80=9D
+>>=20
+>> =20
+>>=20
+>>=20
+>>=20
+>> We want to load the ips into a rewritemap text or db and call them but th=
+e mapping condition on the CDIR seems to be off somewhat and doesn't work.=20=
+
+>>=20
+>> Also, as the file grows do you have any recommendations on iobuffering or=
+ slow down loading the data into a map?  =20
+>>=20
+>>=20
+>>=20
+>> Our file has a list of ips like to so. The condition will check each begi=
+nning and end with b$
+>>=20
+>> 142.255.85.0/17   b
+>>=20
+>> 65.144.129.15/1   b
+>>=20
+>> =20
+>> RewriteMap ipblocklist =E2=80=9Ctxt:/path/to/ipblocklist.txt=E2=80=9D
+>>=20
+>>   RewriteCond "${ipblocklist:% ({HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch  ^b$)=E2=
+=80=9D   [NC]
+>>=20
+>>   RewriteCond ${ipblocklist:%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch}}  ^b$     =
+       [NC]
+>>=20
+>> RewriteRule ^/[^/]+/Main/ad/ - [F,L]
+>>=20
+>=20
+
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+
+<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
+utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Angel, you are the man what you did in your=
+ solution is exactly what we are trying to do block certain countries. I am l=
+eaning towards using Perl to loop through the bad ips list on a text file an=
+d then take the blocked ip match blocking similar to the solution in the lin=
+k below. &nbsp;Can you please take a look and provide me with a high-level c=
+ode set of how you completed this and got it working with Apache?<div><br></=
+div><div><a href=3D"https://www.ispcolohost.com/2017/02/03/keeping-amazon-ec=
+2-crap-off-your-website/">https://www.ispcolohost.com/2017/02/03/keeping-ama=
+zon-ec2-crap-off-your-website/</a><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Wendell</div><div=
+ dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 1, 2020, at 1:42 PM, angel=
+ Hall-Coulston &lt;rammsteinium@me.com.invalid&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquot=
+e></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=
+=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">Depends on not =E2=80=
+=99smarter thinking=E2=80=99 but 'out of the box' thinking=E2=80=A6 I can bl=
+ock a few hundred thousand IP=E2=80=99s with just THREE characters ! Not boa=
+sting but I have half of China and Russia blocked if not 3/4 with less than 3=
+0 characters=E2=80=A6 So I suggest (with the aid of the 'GREP' command) to a=
+scertain which countries you won=E2=80=99t deal with and block whole IP bloc=
+ks or domain suffixes=E2=80=A6. ONE possible solution and a LOT less work :)=
+ Anyone blocked can ALWAYS email me if they are a genuine customer and ask W=
+HY they are blocked if they feel it=E2=80=99s a wrong decision, 99.99% don=E2=
+=80=99t because MOST bad IP requests are automated, so no loss there=E2=80=A6=
+.&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Angel</div><div c=
+lass=3D"">Scotland.<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"ci=
+te" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 1 Jul 2020, at 15:33, Wendell Hatcher &lt;=
+<a href=3D"mailto:wendellhatcher1074@gmail.com" class=3D"">wendellhatcher107=
+4@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div=
+ class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;=
+font-family:&quot;Segoe UI&quot;,system-ui,&quot;Apple Color Emoji&quot;,&qu=
+ot;Segoe UI Emoji&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:14px" class=3D""><p class=3D"">=
+<span style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri=
+,sans-serif" class=3D"">Hello, I have a ipfileblocklist&nbsp;text file that h=
+as over 10,000 ip addresses that need to be matched against. We managed to d=
+o a&nbsp;</span></span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-si=
+ze:14.6667px;background-color:rgb(252,209,22)" class=3D"">Rewri</span><span s=
+tyle=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" class=3D"">teCon=
+d expr &nbsp;" (%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch 'X.X.X.X' )=E2=80=9D on th=
+e cdir ipmatch that comes back from the F5 but there are too many single rew=
+rite cond exprs&nbsp;that are being called and it caused apache to slow down=
+ or lock&nbsp; due to each singular condition call within the file.&nbsp;</s=
+pan></p><p class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-siz=
+e:14.6667px" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></p><p class=3D""><span style=3D=
+"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" class=3D"">Over 60000 p=
+lus single condition calls in our separate&nbsp;ipblocking file. This causes=
+ a huge load on the apache server and locks the system.&nbsp;</span></p><p c=
+lass=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;<span style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span style=3D=
+"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></span><span s=
+tyle=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;background-color:=
+rgb(252,209,22)" class=3D"">Rewri</span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,s=
+ans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" class=3D"">teCond expr &nbsp;" (%{HTTP:x-etsc=
+-client-ip} -ipmatch 'X.X.X.X' )=E2=80=9D</span></p><p class=3D""><span styl=
+e=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" class=3D"">&nbsp; &=
+nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span style=3D"f=
+ont-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></span><span style=3D=
+"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;background-color:rgb(252=
+,209,22)" class=3D"">Rewri</span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-ser=
+if;font-size:14.6667px" class=3D"">teCond expr &nbsp;" (%{HTTP:x-etsc-client=
+-ip} -ipmatch 'X.X.X.X' )=E2=80=9D</span></p><p class=3D""><span style=3D"fo=
+nt-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;</s=
+pan><span style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family:Cal=
+ibri,sans-serif" class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></span><span style=3D"font-fa=
+mily:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;background-color:rgb(252,209,22)=
+" class=3D"">Rewri</span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-=
+size:14.6667px" class=3D"">teCond expr &nbsp;" (%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ip=
+match 'X.X.X.X' )=E2=80=9D</span></p><p class=3D"">&nbsp;<span style=3D"font=
+-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" class=3D""><br class=3D""></=
+span></p><p class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-si=
+ze:14.6667px" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></p><p class=3D""><span style=
+=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" class=3D"">We want t=
+o load the ips into a rewritemap text or db and call them but the mapping co=
+ndition on the CDIR seems to be off somewhat and doesn't work.&nbsp;</span><=
+/p><p class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.=
+6667px" class=3D"">Also, as the file grows do you have any recommendations o=
+n iobuffering&nbsp;or slow down loading the data into a map?&nbsp; &nbsp;</s=
+pan></p><p class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span style=3D=
+"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></span></p=
+><p class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span style=3D"font=
+-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=3D"">Our file has a list of ips like to so=
+. The condition will check each beginning and end with b$ </span></span></p>=
+<p class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-=
+family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:10pt" class=3D=
+""><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;" class=3D""><a href=3D=
+"http://142.255.85.0/17" class=3D"">142.255.85.0/17</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;b</span>=
+</span></span></span></p><p class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D=
+""><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=3D""><span style=3D"=
+font-size:10pt" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot=
+;" class=3D""><a href=3D"http://65.144.129.15/1" class=3D"">65.144.129.15/1<=
+/a>&nbsp; &nbsp;b</span></span></span></span></p><div class=3D""><span style=
+=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif=
+" class=3D""></span></span>&nbsp;<br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></di=
+v><p class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span style=3D"ver=
+tical-align:baseline" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-ser=
+if" class=3D""><span style=3D"border:1pt none windowtext;padding:0in" class=3D=
+"">RewriteMap ipblocklist =E2=80=9Ctxt:/path/to/ipblocklist.txt=E2=80=9D</sp=
+an></span></span></span></p><p class=3D""><span style=3D"background-color:rg=
+b(0,255,0)" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span style=
+=3D"vertical-align:baseline" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,s=
+ans-serif" class=3D""><span style=3D"border:1pt none windowtext;padding:0in"=
+ class=3D""></span></span></span></span>&nbsp;=20
+
+RewriteCond "${ipblocklist:% ({HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch&nbsp; ^b$)=E2=
+=80=9D&nbsp; &nbsp;[NC]</span></p><p style=3D"margin-bottom:32px" class=3D""=
+><span style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span style=3D"vertical-align:bas=
+eline" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-c=
+olor:rgb(0,255,0)" class=3D"">&nbsp; RewriteCond ${ipblocklist:%{HTTP:x-etsc=
+-client-ip} -ipmatch}} &nbsp;^b$&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
+bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [NC]</span></span></span></p><p style=3D"margin-botto=
+m:32px" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span style=3D"=
+background-color:rgb(240,242,244)" class=3D""><span style=3D"vertical-align:=
+baseline" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=3D=
+"">RewriteRule ^/[^/]+/Main/ad/ - [F,L]</span></span></span></span></p></div=
+></div>
+</div></blockquote></div><br class=3D""></div></div></blockquote></div></bod=
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+Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache rewritemap condition that will CDIR-ipmatch
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+Hi Wendell,
+I tend to use Apache configuration for blocking, a mix of hosts and also =
+IP=E2=80=99s. Sometimes it=E2=80=99s as easy as blocking say '*.ru' as =
+it=E2=80=99s highly improbable that some English company has a Russian =
+suffix (I could be wrong of course, but if they DO they prob have a UK =
+based website too..). You have to be careful though if you have say two =
+genuine Russian companies you do business with (for example) to =
+'Require' their domain/IP address. Hostnames is sometimes better=E2=80=A6 =
+sometimes IP ranges. A mix of both seems a good idea. 'GREP' command =
+will come in really useful perhaps 'PIPED' with =E2=80=99SORT' to sift =
+through so many IP=E2=80=99s to at least first group them and so break =
+down into smaller chunks the work. There are many sites that can help =
+too:
+https://www.countryipblocks.net/acl.php =
+<https://www.countryipblocks.net/acl.php>
+
+https://www.abuseipdb.com/check/5.101.0.209 =
+<https://www.abuseipdb.com/check/5.101.0.209>
+
+Not forgetting the great (no, honestly) manual pages of Apache that you =
+can enable through Apache configurations contained in httpd.conf and the =
+'extra' directory so you can access through your site(s), much quicker =
+and easier to navigate. For example I can type 'open http::/manual' from =
+my terminal, and I=E2=80=99m instantly there in the manual home index =
+page. Hope this helps, have a nice day.
+
+Angel
+Scotland
+
+
+> On 1 Jul 2020, at 19:05, Wendell Hatcher =
+<we...@gmail.com> wrote:
+>=20
+> Angel, you are the man what you did in your solution is exactly what =
+we are trying to do block certain countries. I am leaning towards using =
+Perl to loop through the bad ips list on a text file and then take the =
+blocked ip match blocking similar to the solution in the link below.  =
+Can you please take a look and provide me with a high-level code set of =
+how you completed this and got it working with Apache?
+>=20
+> =
+https://www.ispcolohost.com/2017/02/03/keeping-amazon-ec2-crap-off-your-we=
+bsite/ =
+<https://www.ispcolohost.com/2017/02/03/keeping-amazon-ec2-crap-off-your-w=
+ebsite/>
+>=20
+> Wendell
+>=20
+>> On Jul 1, 2020, at 1:42 PM, angel Hall-Coulston =
+<ra...@me.com.invalid> wrote:
+>>=20
+>> =EF=BB=BFDepends on not =E2=80=99smarter thinking=E2=80=99 but 'out =
+of the box' thinking=E2=80=A6 I can block a few hundred thousand IP=E2=80=99=
+s with just THREE characters ! Not boasting but I have half of China and =
+Russia blocked if not 3/4 with less than 30 characters=E2=80=A6 So I =
+suggest (with the aid of the 'GREP' command) to ascertain which =
+countries you won=E2=80=99t deal with and block whole IP blocks or =
+domain suffixes=E2=80=A6. ONE possible solution and a LOT less work :) =
+Anyone blocked can ALWAYS email me if they are a genuine customer and =
+ask WHY they are blocked if they feel it=E2=80=99s a wrong decision, =
+99.99% don=E2=80=99t because MOST bad IP requests are automated, so no =
+loss there=E2=80=A6.
+>>=20
+>> Angel
+>> Scotland.
+>>=20
+>>> On 1 Jul 2020, at 15:33, Wendell Hatcher =
+<wendellhatcher1074@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> =
+wrote:
+>>>=20
+>>> Hello, I have a ipfileblocklist text file that has over 10,000 ip =
+addresses that need to be matched against. We managed to do a =
+RewriteCond expr  " (%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch 'X.X.X.X' )=E2=80=9D=
+ on the cdir ipmatch that comes back from the F5 but there are too many =
+single rewrite cond exprs that are being called and it caused apache to =
+slow down or lock  due to each singular condition call within the file.
+>>>=20
+>>>=20
+>>>=20
+>>> Over 60000 plus single condition calls in our separate ipblocking =
+file. This causes a huge load on the apache server and locks the system.
+>>>=20
+>>>     RewriteCond expr  " (%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch 'X.X.X.X' =
+)=E2=80=9D
+>>>=20
+>>>      RewriteCond expr  " (%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch =
+'X.X.X.X' )=E2=80=9D
+>>>=20
+>>>     RewriteCond expr  " (%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch 'X.X.X.X' =
+)=E2=80=9D
+>>>=20
+>>>=20
+>>>=20
+>>>=20
+>>>=20
+>>> We want to load the ips into a rewritemap text or db and call them =
+but the mapping condition on the CDIR seems to be off somewhat and =
+doesn't work.
+>>>=20
+>>> Also, as the file grows do you have any recommendations on =
+iobuffering or slow down loading the data into a map?
+>>>=20
+>>>=20
+>>>=20
+>>> Our file has a list of ips like to so. The condition will check each =
+beginning and end with b$
+>>>=20
+>>> 142.255.85.0/17 <http://142.255.85.0/17>   b
+>>>=20
+>>> 65.144.129.15/1 <http://65.144.129.15/1>   b
+>>>=20
+>>>=20
+>>> RewriteMap ipblocklist =E2=80=9Ctxt:/path/to/ipblocklist.txt=E2=80=9D
+>>>=20
+>>>   RewriteCond "${ipblocklist:% ({HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch  =
+^b$)=E2=80=9D   [NC]
+>>>=20
+>>>   RewriteCond ${ipblocklist:%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch}}  ^b$ =
+           [NC]
+>>>=20
+>>> RewriteRule ^/[^/]+/Main/ad/ - [F,L]
+>>>=20
+>>=20
+
+
+--Apple-Mail=_B12EF420-D2C6-46B9-8127-65E70D10AD97
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+
+<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
+charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
+-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Hi =
+Wendell,<div class=3D"">I tend to use Apache configuration for blocking, =
+a mix of hosts and also IP=E2=80=99s. Sometimes it=E2=80=99s as easy as =
+blocking say '*.ru' as it=E2=80=99s highly improbable that some English =
+company has a Russian suffix (I could be wrong of course, but if they DO =
+they prob have a UK based website too..). You have to be careful though =
+if you have say two genuine Russian companies you do business with (for =
+example) to 'Require' their domain/IP address. Hostnames is sometimes =
+better=E2=80=A6 sometimes IP ranges. A mix of both seems a good idea. =
+'GREP' command will come in really useful perhaps 'PIPED' with =E2=80=99SO=
+RT' to sift through so many IP=E2=80=99s to at least first group them =
+and so break down into smaller chunks the work. There are many sites =
+that can help too:</div><div class=3D""><a =
+href=3D"https://www.countryipblocks.net/acl.php" =
+class=3D"">https://www.countryipblocks.net/acl.php</a></div><div =
+class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><a =
+href=3D"https://www.abuseipdb.com/check/5.101.0.209" =
+class=3D"">https://www.abuseipdb.com/check/5.101.0.209</a></div><div =
+class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Not forgetting the great =
+(no, honestly) manual pages of Apache that you can enable through Apache =
+configurations contained in httpd.conf and the 'extra' directory so you =
+can access through your site(s), much quicker and easier to navigate. =
+For example I can type 'open http::/manual' from my terminal, and I=E2=80=99=
+m instantly there in the manual home index page. Hope this helps, have a =
+nice day.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
+class=3D"">Angel</div><div class=3D"">Scotland</div><div class=3D""><br =
+class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
+class=3D"">On 1 Jul 2020, at 19:05, Wendell Hatcher &lt;<a =
+href=3D"mailto:wendellhatcher1074@gmail.com" =
+class=3D"">wendellhatcher1074@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
+class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
+http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" =
+class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Angel, you are the man what you =
+did in your solution is exactly what we are trying to do block certain =
+countries. I am leaning towards using Perl to loop through the bad ips =
+list on a text file and then take the blocked ip match blocking similar =
+to the solution in the link below. &nbsp;Can you please take a look and =
+provide me with a high-level code set of how you completed this and got =
+it working with Apache?<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
+class=3D""><a =
+href=3D"https://www.ispcolohost.com/2017/02/03/keeping-amazon-ec2-crap-off=
+-your-website/" =
+class=3D"">https://www.ispcolohost.com/2017/02/03/keeping-amazon-ec2-crap-=
+off-your-website/</a><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
+class=3D"">Wendell</div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><br =
+class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Jul 1, 2020, at 1:42 =
+PM, angel Hall-Coulston &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rammsteinium@me.com.invalid"=
+ class=3D"">rammsteinium@me.com.invalid</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br =
+class=3D""></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
+dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" =
+content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" class=3D"">Depends on not =
+=E2=80=99smarter thinking=E2=80=99 but 'out of the box' thinking=E2=80=A6 =
+I can block a few hundred thousand IP=E2=80=99s with just THREE =
+characters ! Not boasting but I have half of China and Russia blocked if =
+not 3/4 with less than 30 characters=E2=80=A6 So I suggest (with the aid =
+of the 'GREP' command) to ascertain which countries you won=E2=80=99t =
+deal with and block whole IP blocks or domain suffixes=E2=80=A6. ONE =
+possible solution and a LOT less work :) Anyone blocked can ALWAYS email =
+me if they are a genuine customer and ask WHY they are blocked if they =
+feel it=E2=80=99s a wrong decision, 99.99% don=E2=80=99t because MOST =
+bad IP requests are automated, so no loss there=E2=80=A6.&nbsp;<div =
+class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Angel</div><div =
+class=3D"">Scotland.<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><br =
+class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 1 Jul =
+2020, at 15:33, Wendell Hatcher &lt;<a =
+href=3D"mailto:wendellhatcher1074@gmail.com" =
+class=3D"">wendellhatcher1074@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
+class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
+class=3D""><div style=3D"box-sizing:border-box;font-family:&quot;Segoe =
+UI&quot;,system-ui,&quot;Apple Color Emoji&quot;,&quot;Segoe UI =
+Emoji&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:14px" class=3D""><p class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=3D"">Hello, I have a =
+ipfileblocklist&nbsp;text file that has over 10,000 ip addresses that =
+need to be matched against. We managed to do a&nbsp;</span></span><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;background-col=
+or:rgb(252,209,22)" class=3D"">Rewri</span><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" =
+class=3D"">teCond expr &nbsp;" (%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch =
+'X.X.X.X' )=E2=80=9D on the cdir ipmatch that comes back from the F5 but =
+there are too many single rewrite cond exprs&nbsp;that are being called =
+and it caused apache to slow down or lock&nbsp; due to each singular =
+condition call within the file.&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" =
+class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></p><p class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" =
+class=3D"">Over 60000 plus single condition calls in our =
+separate&nbsp;ipblocking file. This causes a huge load on the apache =
+server and locks the system.&nbsp;</span></p><p =
+class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;<span style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" =
+class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></span><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;background-col=
+or:rgb(252,209,22)" class=3D"">Rewri</span><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" =
+class=3D"">teCond expr &nbsp;" (%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch =
+'X.X.X.X' )=E2=80=9D</span></p><p class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" =
+class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt" =
+class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" =
+class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></span><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;background-col=
+or:rgb(252,209,22)" class=3D"">Rewri</span><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" =
+class=3D"">teCond expr &nbsp;" (%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch =
+'X.X.X.X' )=E2=80=9D</span></p><p class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" =
+class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt" =
+class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" =
+class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></span><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;background-col=
+or:rgb(252,209,22)" class=3D"">Rewri</span><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" =
+class=3D"">teCond expr &nbsp;" (%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch =
+'X.X.X.X' )=E2=80=9D</span></p><p class=3D"">&nbsp;<span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" =
+class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></p><p class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" =
+class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></p><p class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" class=3D"">We=
+ want to load the ips into a rewritemap text or db and call them but the =
+mapping condition on the CDIR seems to be off somewhat and doesn't =
+work.&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" =
+class=3D"">Also, as the file grows do you have any recommendations on =
+iobuffering&nbsp;or slow down loading the data into a map?&nbsp; =
+&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:11pt" =
+class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=3D""><br =
+class=3D""></span></span></p><p class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:11pt" =
+class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=3D"">Our =
+file has a list of ips like to so. The condition will check each =
+beginning and end with b$ </span></span></p><p class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-size:10pt" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;" class=3D""><a =
+href=3D"http://142.255.85.0/17" class=3D"">142.255.85.0/17</a> =
+&nbsp;&nbsp;b</span></span></span></span></p><p class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-size:10pt" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;" class=3D""><a =
+href=3D"http://65.144.129.15/1" class=3D"">65.144.129.15/1</a>&nbsp; =
+&nbsp;b</span></span></span></span></p><div class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" =
+class=3D""></span></span>&nbsp;<br =
+class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"vertical-align:baseline" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"border:1pt none windowtext;padding:0in" class=3D"">RewriteMap =
+ipblocklist =
+=E2=80=9Ctxt:/path/to/ipblocklist.txt=E2=80=9D</span></span></span></span>=
+</p><p class=3D""><span style=3D"background-color:rgb(0,255,0)" =
+class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"vertical-align:baseline" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"border:1pt none windowtext;padding:0in" =
+class=3D""></span></span></span></span>&nbsp;=20
+
+RewriteCond "${ipblocklist:% ({HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} -ipmatch&nbsp; =
+^b$)=E2=80=9D&nbsp; &nbsp;[NC]</span></p><p style=3D"margin-bottom:32px" =
+class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"vertical-align:baseline" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(0,255,0)" =
+class=3D"">&nbsp; RewriteCond ${ipblocklist:%{HTTP:x-etsc-client-ip} =
+-ipmatch}} =
+&nbsp;^b$&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
+; [NC]</span></span></span></p><p style=3D"margin-bottom:32px" =
+class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"background-color:rgb(240,242,244)" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"vertical-align:baseline" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=3D"">RewriteRule =
+^/[^/]+/Main/ad/ - [F,L]</span></span></span></span></p></div></div>
+</div></blockquote></div><br =
+class=3D""></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><=
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+We are seeing the following out of space errors in our apache servers and
+have the lastest apr and apr-util installed. [slotmem_shm:error] No space
+left on device: AH02611: create:
+apr_shm_create(/home/logs/slotmem-shm-p743569) failed.
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+Subject: [users@httpd] Test an SSL certificate before installation
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+Hello,
+
+I'd like to let my users install their own SSL certificates through a 
+web interface for self-management services. If a user provides a 
+malicious certificate, the entire server will fail to start and the 
+whole system is down. This is a bit hard but that's how it is.
+
+So I'll have to make sure the certificate and key are usable by apache 
+before generating the config that will use it.
+
+I could run basic checks like let openssl parse it. But I've managed to 
+break my test server by providing it a perfectly working certificate and 
+key - from an old domain from 2016. The server complained with this message:
+
+ > SSL Library Error: error:140AB18E:SSL 
+routines:SSL_CTX_use_certificate:ca md too weak
+
+That's from my letsencrypt archives. A newer one of the same domain from 
+2018 works just fine on the same new dev server. So there are obviously 
+circumstances that let apache fail on the certificate that I can't fully 
+analyse.
+
+Is there a method to have apache check that certificate and key in 
+advance, considering its usual configuration, before I expect it to use 
+the certificate? I don't want to let it try out the file on a production 
+system, and learn about an unsupported certificate by a web server 
+that's down. There has to be a smarter way to handle this.
+
+-Yves
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+Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Test an SSL certificate before installation
+
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+
+Just an idea, run a separate stance locally on a random port (to avoid
+collisions) with the certificate, if it fails to start bingo, if it doesn't
+fail you are good to put the cert on the main instance.
+
+On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 5:09 PM Yves Goergen <no...@unclassified.de>
+wrote:
+
+> Hello,
+>
+> I'd like to let my users install their own SSL certificates through a
+> web interface for self-management services. If a user provides a
+> malicious certificate, the entire server will fail to start and the
+> whole system is down. This is a bit hard but that's how it is.
+>
+> So I'll have to make sure the certificate and key are usable by apache
+> before generating the config that will use it.
+>
+> I could run basic checks like let openssl parse it. But I've managed to
+> break my test server by providing it a perfectly working certificate and
+> key - from an old domain from 2016. The server complained with this
+> message:
+>
+>  > SSL Library Error: error:140AB18E:SSL
+> routines:SSL_CTX_use_certificate:ca md too weak
+>
+> That's from my letsencrypt archives. A newer one of the same domain from
+> 2018 works just fine on the same new dev server. So there are obviously
+> circumstances that let apache fail on the certificate that I can't fully
+> analyse.
+>
+> Is there a method to have apache check that certificate and key in
+> advance, considering its usual configuration, before I expect it to use
+> the certificate? I don't want to let it try out the file on a production
+> system, and learn about an unsupported certificate by a web server
+> that's down. There has to be a smarter way to handle this.
+>
+> -Yves
+>
+> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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+> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@httpd.apache.org
+>
+>
+
+-- 
+[ ]'s
+
+Filipe Cifali Stangler
+
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+
+<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Just an idea, run a separate stance locally on a rand=
+om port (to avoid collisions) with the certificate, if it fails to start bi=
+ngo, if it doesn&#39;t fail you are good to put the cert on the main instan=
+ce.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gma=
+il_attr">On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 5:09 PM Yves Goergen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
+nospam.list@unclassified.de">nospam.list@unclassified.de</a>&gt; wrote:<br>=
+</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;b=
+order-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hello,<br>
+<br>
+I&#39;d like to let my users install their own SSL certificates through a <=
+br>
+web interface for self-management services. If a user provides a <br>
+malicious certificate, the entire server will fail to start and the <br>
+whole system is down. This is a bit hard but that&#39;s how it is.<br>
+<br>
+So I&#39;ll have to make sure the certificate and key are usable by apache =
+<br>
+before generating the config that will use it.<br>
+<br>
+I could run basic checks like let openssl parse it. But I&#39;ve managed to=
+ <br>
+break my test server by providing it a perfectly working certificate and <b=
+r>
+key - from an old domain from 2016. The server complained with this message=
+:<br>
+<br>
+=C2=A0&gt; SSL Library Error: error:140AB18E:SSL <br>
+routines:SSL_CTX_use_certificate:ca md too weak<br>
+<br>
+That&#39;s from my letsencrypt archives. A newer one of the same domain fro=
+m <br>
+2018 works just fine on the same new dev server. So there are obviously <br=
+>
+circumstances that let apache fail on the certificate that I can&#39;t full=
+y <br>
+analyse.<br>
+<br>
+Is there a method to have apache check that certificate and key in <br>
+advance, considering its usual configuration, before I expect it to use <br=
+>
+the certificate? I don&#39;t want to let it try out the file on a productio=
+n <br>
+system, and learn about an unsupported certificate by a web server <br>
+that&#39;s down. There has to be a smarter way to handle this.<br>
+<br>
+-Yves<br>
+<br>
+---------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
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+</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
+mail_signature">[ ]&#39;s<br><br>Filipe Cifali Stangler<br></div>
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+I agree=E2=80=A6 certs are all about trust and giving users carte =
+blanche may not be such a great idea. LE certs are free to my current =
+knowledge, and are building trust.
+
+Angel
+Scotland.
+
+> On 3 Jul 2020, at 05:01, @lbutlr <kr...@kreme.com> wrote:
+>=20
+> On 02 Jul 2020, at 14:08, Yves Goergen <no...@unclassified.de> =
+wrote:
+>> I'd like to let my users install their own SSL certificates through a =
+web interface for self-management services.
+>=20
+> WOuldn't it be simpler to just get a LE cert for those domains? What =
+is the advantage to having them upload their own certs?
+>=20
+> --
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+Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Received 404 not found error on existing CGI script
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+Try the following link for basic info on using CGI with Apache httpd:
+- http://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/howto/cgi.html
+
+On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 1:03 AM angel Hall-Coulston
+<ra...@me.com.invalid> wrote:
+
+> Hi,
+> Check your config file with the command 'httpd -V' but speaking from a
+> 'Mac users' perspective it=E2=80=99s usually found here:
+> /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
+> About 3/4 down you=E2=80=99ll find log formats etc and several suggested =
+log
+> levels. You can change back after you have solved the issue because 'debu=
+g'
+> can/will fill your log files up pretty quickly with the extra info.
+> Angel Hall-Coulston
+> Scotland.
+>
+> On 25 Jun 2020, at 19:58, barry kimelman <pe...@gmail.com> wrote:
+>
+>
+> Hello,
+>
+> Thanks for your reply. I solved the not being able to run a Perl CGI
+> script issue. I now have several of my old Perl CGI scripts up and runnin=
+g.
+>
+> Now one of my other CGI scripts is failing badly. The mysql error log doe=
+s
+> not show anything useful. All I see on my screen is a '500 internal serve=
+r
+> error'. I checked the syntax of my perl script and it is ok.
+>
+> Your message stated that setting "my log file level to debug" was a good
+> debugging idea. I have been trying to figure out how to accomplish this
+> task with no success. Which config file do I need to change and what
+> specific change do I need to make to the config file ?
+>
+> Thanks/
+>
+> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 11:15 AM angel Hall-Coulston <
+> rammsteinium@me.com.invalid> wrote:
+>
+>> Try setting your log file level to debug, you will get far more
+>> information. Also at the end of the 'log format' code in your configurat=
+ion
+>> file (easy double check by command 'httpd -V' which will double check yo=
+ur
+>> conf file) add '%L' which when added to both access_log file formats AND
+>> error_log formats will give matches between the two easily found with th=
+e
+>> 'grep' command 'grep
+>> "[long-scrambled-unique-characters-for-that-particular-error] '*_log' .
+>> Make sure you first are in the log directory.
+>>
+>> Another helpful tip=E2=80=A6 your apache comes with it=E2=80=99s VERY OW=
+N manual pages
+>> which when enabled in your 'includes' section of your config file, will
+>> allow you to access MUCH quicker than going online, where you will find
+>> everything you need to know.
+>>
+>> Angel Hall-Coulston
+>> Scotland.
+>>
+>> On 24 Jun 2020, at 00:35, barry kimelman <pe...@gmail.com> wrote:
+>>
+>> my system is an ubuntu 20.04 lts laptop.
+>>
+>> I successfully installed apache2. I verified the installation by visitin=
+g
+>>  http://localhost:80 <http://localhost/>
+>>
+>> Now I am having problems trying to run a Perl CGI script which I had
+>> running under Windows 10 on  Apache 2.4
+>>
+>> I modified the sites-enabled/000-default.conf file by removing the '#'
+>> from the start of the "Include conf-available/serve-cgi-bin.conf" line. =
+I
+>> then created the /usr/lib/cgi-bin directory. I next put a small Perl CGI
+>> script named "printenv.cgi" under /usr/lib/cgi-bin. I then restarted the
+>> apache2 server. When I attempted to run my newly created CGI script gy
+>> visiting localhost:80/cgi-bin/printenv.cgi
+>> <http://localhost/cgi-bin/printenv.cgi> all that happened was I received
+>> a "404 Not Found" error. I looked at the apache logfile and it provided =
+no
+>> further info.
+>>
+>> I even tried using the "wget" command. same 404 error.
+>>
+>> What have I done wrong?
+>>
+>> --
+>>
+>> Barrry Kimelman
+>> Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
+>>
+>>
+>>
+>
+>
+>
+
+--000000000000d615dd05a9c8ce1a
+Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
+Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
+
+<div dir=3D"ltr">Try the following link for basic info on using CGI with Ap=
+ache httpd:<div>-=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/howto/=
+cgi.html">http://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/howto/cgi.html</a>=C2=A0</div>=
+</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">=
+On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 1:03 AM angel Hall-Coulston &lt;rammsteinium@me.com=
+.invalid&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
+gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1=
+ex"><div style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;">Hi,<div>Check your config fil=
+e with the command &#39;httpd -V&#39; but speaking from a &#39;Mac users&#3=
+9; perspective it=E2=80=99s usually found here: =C2=A0 =C2=A0<font face=3D"=
+SourceCodePro-Regular"><span style=3D"font-style:normal">/etc/apache2/httpd=
+.conf</span></font><div>About 3/4 down you=E2=80=99ll find log formats etc =
+and several suggested log levels. You can change back after you have solved=
+ the issue because &#39;debug&#39; can/will fill your log files up pretty q=
+uickly with the extra info.</div><div>Angel Hall-Coulston</div><div>Scotlan=
+d.</div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0p=
+x"><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On 25 Jun 2020, at 19:58, barry kime=
+lman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perlmaster56@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">perlma=
+ster56@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div></blockquote></div></blockquote><div><=
+blockquote type=3D"cite"><br><div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Ame=
+ricanTypewriter;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;f=
+ont-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;te=
+xt-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"=
+><div>Hello,</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your reply. I solved the n=
+ot being able to run a Perl CGI script issue. I now have several of my old =
+Perl CGI scripts up and running.</div><div><br></div><div>Now one of my oth=
+er CGI scripts is failing badly. The mysql error log does not show anything=
+ useful. All I see on my screen is a &#39;500 internal server error&#39;. I=
+ checked the syntax of my perl script and it is ok.</div><div><br></div><di=
+v>Your message stated that setting &quot;my log file level to debug&quot; w=
+as a good debugging idea. I have been trying to figure out how to accomplis=
+h this task with no success. Which config file do I need to change and what=
+ specific change do I need to make to the config file ?</div><div><br></div=
+><div>Thanks/<br></div></div><br style=3D"font-family:AmericanTypewriter;fo=
+nt-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;=
+letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;=
+white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div class=3D"gma=
+il_quote" style=3D"font-family:AmericanTypewriter;font-size:18px;font-style=
+:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;t=
+ext-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word=
+-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On=
+ Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 11:15 AM angel Hall-Coulston &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ra=
+mmsteinium@me.com.invalid" target=3D"_blank">rammsteinium@me.com.invalid</a=
+>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px=
+ 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><di=
+v>Try setting your log file level to debug, you will get far more informati=
+on. Also at the end of the &#39;log format&#39; code in your configuration =
+file (easy double check by command &#39;httpd -V&#39; which will double che=
+ck your conf file) add &#39;%L&#39; which when added to both access_log fil=
+e formats AND error_log formats will give matches between the two easily fo=
+und with the &#39;grep&#39; command &#39;grep &quot;[long-scrambled-unique-=
+characters-for-that-particular-error] &#39;*_log&#39; . Make sure you first=
+ are in the log directory.<div><br></div><div>Another helpful tip=E2=80=A6 =
+your apache comes with it=E2=80=99s VERY OWN manual pages which when enable=
+d in your &#39;includes&#39; section of your config file, will allow you to=
+ access MUCH quicker than going online, where you will find everything you =
+need to know.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Angel Hall-Coulston</div><div>=
+Scotland.<br><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On 24 Jun 2020, at 00:=
+35, barry kimelman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:perlmaster56@gmail.com" target=3D"=
+_blank">perlmaster56@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><div><div dir=3D"ltr=
+"><div>my system is an ubuntu 20.04 lts laptop.</div><div><br></div><div>I =
+successfully installed apache2. I verified the installation by visiting<spa=
+n>=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"http://localhost/" target=3D"_blank">http://local=
+host:80</a></div><div><br></div><div>Now I am having problems trying to run=
+ a Perl CGI script which I had running under Windows 10 on=C2=A0 Apache 2.4=
+</div><div><br></div><div><span>I modified the sites-enabled/000-default.co=
+nf file by removing the &#39;#&#39; from the start of the &quot;Include con=
+f-available/serve-cgi-bin.conf&quot; line. I then created the /usr/lib/cgi-=
+bin directory. I next put a small Perl CGI script named &quot;printenv.cgi&=
+quot; under /usr/lib/cgi-bin. I then restarted the apache2 server. When I a=
+ttempted to run my newly created CGI script gy visiting<span>=C2=A0</span><=
+a href=3D"http://localhost/cgi-bin/printenv.cgi" rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer=
+" target=3D"_blank">localhost:80/cgi-bin/printenv.cgi</a><span>=C2=A0</span=
+>all that happened was I received a &quot;404 Not Found&quot; error. I look=
+ed at the apache logfile and it provided no further info.</span></div><div>=
+<span><br></span></div><div><span>I even tried using the &quot;wget&quot; c=
+ommand. same 404 error.<br></span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><s=
+pan>What have I done wrong?</span></div><div><br>--<span>=C2=A0</span><br><=
+div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div>Barrry Kimelman</div><div>Winnipe=
+g, Manitoba, Canada</div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><=
+br></div></div></blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all" style=3D"font-family:Am=
+ericanTypewriter;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;=
+font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;t=
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+"><br style=3D"font-family:AmericanTypewriter;font-size:18px;font-style:nor=
+mal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-=
+align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spa=
+cing:0px;text-decoration:none"></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></b=
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+Message-ID: <5f...@christopherschultz.net>
+Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 19:26:19 -0400
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+Subject: [users@httpd] Using Balancer Manager for fun and profit
+
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+All,
+
+I'm looking at moving from mod_jk to mod_proxy and I need to migrate
+my tooling for things like scripted worker-management. My existing
+tool for mod_jk is on GitHub[1] for those interested in what it can do.
+
+Mostly, I'm interested in fetching and setting the status(es) of a
+worker. With mod_jk, status is one of Active, Disabled, Stopped. The
+difference between Disabled and Stopped is that requests for
+sticky-sessions pointing to a Disabled will still be routed to the
+Disabled worker while a Stopped worker will never receive a request.
+
+By looking at a little of the mod_proxy_balancer code and poking at
+the interface a little bit, I have drawn these conclusions. Can anyone
+confirm that they are accurate?
+
+1. Nonce is required for many operations (but not status-fetch?)
+2. Nonce is only available once an initial GET has completed succesfully
+  ... by sniffing the nonce from an href URL
+3. You can get XML details for the balancers ... but only with a nonce
+and an "xml" parameter
+4. You can change any individual flag, eg. "draining", by making a
+POST request which includes a w_status_[F]=0|1 parameter where [F] is
+one of several flag characters (e.g. N for "draiNing") along with a
+"b" (balancer) and "w" (worker) parameter. Unspecified flags and other
+settings will be unaffected. The nonce is required for these operations.
+5. The "draiN" status of mod_proxy_balancer workers is analagous to
+the "disabled" status of mod_jk, and both "Disabled" and "Stopped" in
+mod_proxy are roughly equivalent to "Disabled" state for mod_jk.
+
+Does all that sound right?
+
+Would it be possible to query the status with XML-output *without* a
+nonce? And could the nonce be added to the XML output?
+
+Thanks,
+- -chris
+
+[1]
+https://github.com/ChristopherSchultz/apache-tomcat-stuff/tree/master/bi
+n/mod_jk
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+Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Mod proxy balancer route length issue?
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+There are far too many characters. There has to be less than (the =
+mathematical '<' less-than character) 64 characters. So some shortening =
+of directory names called for there.
+
+Angel
+Scotland.
+
+"Those that never give, but always take, are common thieves=E2=80=A6 "
+
+> On 7 Jul 2020, at 14:36, Wendell Hatcher =
+<we...@gmail.com> wrote:
+>=20
+> How do I resolve this issue within my conf file?
+>=20
+> ERR>    ! AH00526: Syntax error on line 4 of =
+/home/cqrobotallhanauser/archive/deployments/personal_cqrobotallhanauser/s=
+sws/SSWSRel-RH6-190/config/cluster-ss-testserver.conf:
+>         ! BalancerMember Route length must be < 64 characters
+>=20
+> Wendell
+
+
+--Apple-Mail=_3B60A4D4-21C4-47C1-97E4-6CA737F47209
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+
+<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
+charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
+-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">There=
+ are far too many characters. There has to be less than (the =
+mathematical '&lt;' less-than character) 64 characters. So some =
+shortening of directory names called for there.&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br =
+class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Angel</div><div =
+class=3D"">Scotland.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
+class=3D"">"Those that never give, but always take, are common =
+thieves=E2=80=A6 "<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote =
+type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 7 Jul 2020, at 14:36, =
+Wendell Hatcher &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wendellhatcher1074@gmail.com" =
+class=3D"">wendellhatcher1074@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
+class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
+style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: AmericanTypewriter; =
+font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
+font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
+text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
+word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
+none;" class=3D"">How do I resolve this issue within my conf =
+file?&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: =
+AmericanTypewriter; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; =
+font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
+text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
+normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
+text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
+style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; =
+font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
+text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
+normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
+text-decoration: none; font-size: 16px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; =
+font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
+11pt; background-color: yellow; line-height: 22px;" =
+class=3D"">ERR&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ! AH00526: Syntax error on line 4 =
+of =
+/home/cqrobotallhanauser/archive/deployments/personal_cqrobotallhanauser/s=
+sws/SSWSRel-RH6-190/config/cluster-ss-testserver.conf:</span></div><div =
+style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; =
+font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
+text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
+normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
+text-decoration: none; font-size: 16px; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; =
+font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
+11pt; background-color: yellow; line-height: 22px;" =
+class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ! BalancerMember =
+Route length must be &lt; 64 characters</span></div><br =
+style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: AmericanTypewriter; =
+font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
+font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
+text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
+word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
+none;" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
+font-family: AmericanTypewriter; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; =
+font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
+text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
+normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
+text-decoration: none;" =
+class=3D"">Wendell</div></div></blockquote></div><br =
+class=3D""></div></body></html>=
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+From: Mahmood Naderan <nt...@yahoo.com.INVALID>
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+Hello
+When I count the number of apache2 processes, I get about 151, but when I check the number of connections, I get about 208 connections. I want to know if there is any relation between these two. Also, isn't 151 processes low? We have 32GB of RAM with 10 cores. We want to have a support for about 1000 users online, refreshing web pages at specific times. It is actually online exams on our Moodle web site.
+
+# netstat -ntu | awk '{print $5}' | cut -d: -f1 | sort | uniq -c | sort -n | wc -l
+208
+
+
+# ps -A | grep apache | wc -l
+151
+
+
+
+
+Regards,
+Mahmood
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+<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydp1ddda290yahoo-style-wrap" style=
+=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px=
+;"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Hello</div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
+data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">When=
+ I count the number of apache2 processes, I get about 151, but when I check=
+ the number of connections, I get about 208 connections. I want to know if =
+there is any relation between these two. Also, isn't 151 processes low? We =
+have 32GB of RAM with 10 cores. We want to have a support for about 1000 us=
+ers online, refreshing web pages at specific times. It is actually online e=
+xams on our Moodle web site.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><b=
+r></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" d=
+ata-setdir=3D"false"><div># netstat -ntu | awk '{print $5}' | cut -d: -f1 |=
+ sort | uniq -c | sort -n | wc -l<br>208<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data=
+-setdir=3D"false"><br><div># ps -A | grep apache | wc -l<br>151<br><br></di=
+v></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" d=
+ata-setdir=3D"false"><br></div></div><div><br></div><div class=3D"ydp1ddda2=
+90signature">Regards,<br>Mahmood</div></div></div></body></html>
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+From: Mahmood Naderan <nt...@yahoo.com.INVALID>
+Reply-To: Mahmood Naderan <nt...@yahoo.com>
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+Subject: [users@httpd] About ServerLimit
+
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+Hello
+When I set ServerLimit to 500, does that include all TCP connection states?=
+ I mean=20
+are all these counted by ServerLimit? Or just ESTABLISHED is counted?
+
+tcp6=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0 =
+192.168.168.91:443=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 X:18212=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
+=C2=A0 FIN_WAIT2=C2=A0=C2=A0 -
+tcp6=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0 =
+192.168.168.91:443=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 X:14756=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
+=C2=A0 TIME_WAIT=C2=A0=C2=A0 -
+tcp6=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0 =
+192.168.168.91:443=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 X:56033=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
+=C2=A0=C2=A0 FIN_WAIT2=C2=A0=C2=A0 -
+tcp6=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0 =
+192.168.168.91:443=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 X:15956=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
+=C2=A0=C2=A0 TIME_WAIT=C2=A0=C2=A0 -
+tcp6=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0 =
+192.168.168.91:443=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 X:49650=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ESTABLISHED -
+tcp6=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0 =
+192.168.168.91:443=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 X:63982=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 TIME_WAIT=C2=A0=C2=A0 -
+tcp6=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0 =
+192.168.168.91:443=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 X:53249=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
+=C2=A0=C2=A0 TIME_WAIT=C2=A0=C2=A0 -
+
+
+
+Regards,
+Mahmood
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+
+<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydp85c13d32yahoo-style-wrap" style=
+=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px=
+;"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Hello</div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
+data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">When=
+ I set ServerLimit to 500, does that include all TCP connection states? I m=
+ean <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">are all these counted =
+by ServerLimit? Or just ESTABLISHED is counted?</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-=
+setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div=
+><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><div>tcp6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
+bsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0 192.168.168.91:443&nbsp;&nbsp;=
+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; X:18212&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; FIN_WAIT2&nbsp;&nbsp; -<=
+br>tcp6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
+ 0 192.168.168.91:443&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; X:14756&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
+p;&nbsp; TIME_WAIT&nbsp;&nbsp; -<br>tcp6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
+; 0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0 192.168.168.91:443&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
+sp;&nbsp; X:56033&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; FIN_WAIT2&nbsp;&nbsp; -<br>=
+tcp6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0 =
+192.168.168.91:443&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; X:15956&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
+nbsp;&nbsp; TIME_WAIT&nbsp;&nbsp; -<br>tcp6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
+bsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0 192.168.168.91:443&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
+&nbsp;&nbsp; X:49650&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ESTABLISHED -<br>t=
+cp6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0 1=
+92.168.168.91:443&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; X:63982&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
+bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; TIME_WAIT&nbsp;&nbsp; -<br>tcp6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
+sp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0 192.168.168.91:443&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
+nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; X:53249&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; TIME_WAIT&nbsp;&nbs=
+p; -<br><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"ydp85c1=
+3d32signature">Regards,<br>Mahmood</div></div></div></body></html>
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+
+On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 5:44 AM Mahmood Naderan
+<nt...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
+>
+> Hello
+>
+> When I set ServerLimit to 500, does that include all TCP connection states? I mean
+> are all these counted by ServerLimit? Or just ESTABLISHED is counted?
+>
+>
+> tcp6       0      0 192.168.168.91:443      X:18212     FIN_WAIT2   -
+> tcp6       0      0 192.168.168.91:443      X:14756     TIME_WAIT   -
+> tcp6       0      0 192.168.168.91:443      X:56033      FIN_WAIT2   -
+> tcp6       0      0 192.168.168.91:443      X:15956      TIME_WAIT   -
+> tcp6       0      0 192.168.168.91:443      X:49650       ESTABLISHED -
+> tcp6       0      0 192.168.168.91:443      X:63982       TIME_WAIT   -
+> tcp6       0      0 192.168.168.91:443      X:53249      TIME_WAIT   -
+
+It's complicated and depends on the MPM used. When you see states
+FIN_WAIT1 or  FIN_WAIT2 or CLOSE_WAIT there will generally be a thread
+tied up in the server still.  TIME_WAIT does not.
+But it's more straightforward to use /server-status if you care about
+things like ServerLimit then trying to reverse engineer from netstat.
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+On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 7:49 AM Mahmood Naderan
+<nt...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
+>
+>
+> >But it's more straightforward to use /server-status if you care about
+> >things like ServerLimit then trying to reverse engineer from netstat.
+>
+>
+>
+> OK I can see that report.
+>
+> It is saying that 109 requests currently being processed., 18 idle workers.
+>
+>
+> Is that 109 the same as the number of apache2 process like below:
+>
+> ps aux | grep apache | wc -l
+
+If you use prefork, you will see close to 109+18 processes.
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+From: Mahmood Naderan <nt...@yahoo.com.INVALID>
+Reply-To: Mahmood Naderan <nt...@yahoo.com>
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+>But it's more straightforward to use /server-status if you care about
+>things like ServerLimit then trying to reverse engineer from netstat.
+
+
+OK I can see that report.
+It is saying that 109 requests currently being processed., 18 idle workers.
+
+Is that 109 the same as the number of apache2 process like below:
+ps aux | grep apache | wc -l
+?
+
+
+Regards,
+Mahmood 
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+<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydp6d9a85b6yahoo-style-wrap" style=
+=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px=
+;"><div><div><br></div><div><div>&gt;But it's more straightforward to use /=
+server-status if you care about<br clear=3D"none">&gt;things like ServerLim=
+it then trying to reverse engineer from netstat.</div><div><br></div><div><=
+br></div><div><br></div><div>OK I can see that report.</div><div><br></div>=
+<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">It is saying that 109 requests curre=
+ntly being processed., 18 idle workers.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=
+=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div =
+dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Is that 109 the same as the number of apa=
+che2 process like below:</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></=
+div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">ps aux | grep apache | wc -l</di=
+v><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-se=
+tdir=3D"false">?<br></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class=3D=
+"ydp6d9a85b6signature">Regards,<br>Mahmood</div></div>
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+From: Mahmood Naderan <nt...@yahoo.com.INVALID>
+Reply-To: Mahmood Naderan <nt...@yahoo.com>
+To: users@httpd.apache.org
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+One more thing. With this output
+WKWWKWRKKRKWWKWWRWWRRKWWKRWKKR.RWR._W_R.RKRKK.RCWWKW_R.W..KKWWK.
+WCWKKK_KWWWRR.R.WWWW.WWKWWRK.WWWRRW.WWW.WRK_WR.R..KWWKKRW.KCWK.W
+..R........_..WW................................................
+................................................................
+................................................................
+................................................................
+................................................................
+....................................................
+
+Should I worry about W which means sending reply?
+
+
+Regards,
+Mahmood 
+
+
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+Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
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+=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px=
+;"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">One more thing. With this ou=
+tput</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
+ data-setdir=3D"false"><div>WKWWKWRKKRKWWKWWRWWRRKWWKRWKKR.RWR._W_R.RKRKK.R=
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+...<br>................................................................<br>=
+................................................................<br>.......=
+.........................................................<br>..............=
+..................................................<br>.....................=
+...............................</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div dir=
+=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Should I worry about W which means sending r=
+eply?</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
+" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div></div><div><br></div><div class=3D"ydp53a=
+e0253signature">Regards,<br>Mahmood</div></div>
+        <div><br></div></div><div><br></div></body></html>
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+To: users@httpd.apache.org
+Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000d578605a9f0ccf2"
+Subject: [users@httpd] File exists: AH01185: worker slotmem_create failed
+
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+Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
+
+Hi, I am getting the following error within apache
+[Sat Jun 20 07:27:13.280938 2020] [:emerg] [pid 6535:tid 47435645317568]
+AH00020: Configuration Failed, exiting [Sat Jun 20 07:27:13.280932 2020]
+[proxy_balancer:emerg] [pid 6535:tid 47435645317568] (17)File exists:
+AH01185: worker slotmem_create failed [Sat Jun 20 07:27:13.280858 2020]
+[slotmem_shm:error] [pid 6535:tid 47435645317568] (17)File exists: AH02611:
+create: apr_shm_create(/var/log/apache/
+s1.ariba.com/shm/slotmem-shm-p3696be5_s4ui_c138.shm) failed
+is there a bug fix for this>
+
+--0000000000000d578605a9f0ccf2
+Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
+Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
+
+<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-item" style=3D"overfl=
+ow:hidden;color:rgb(34,35,31);font-family:&quot;Source Sans Pro&quot;,Helve=
+tica,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px"><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-mess=
+age gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message--modern gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message--=
+authorfirst gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message-privmsg gmail-kiwi-messagelist-m=
+essage--own" style=3D"padding:15px 10px;border-left:7px solid transparent;o=
+verflow:hidden;line-height:1.5em;margin:0px;display:flex;border-top-width:1=
+px;border-top-style:solid;background-color:rgb(247,247,247)"><div class=3D"=
+gmail-kiwi-messagelist-modern-right" style=3D"margin-left:5px;padding-top:0=
+px;width:1369.86px"><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-body" style=3D"min=
+-height:0px;line-height:1.5em;font-size:1.05em;margin:0px;padding:0px;white=
+-space:pre-wrap">Hi,  I am getting the following error within apache</div><=
+/div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-item" style=3D"overfl=
+ow:hidden;color:rgb(34,35,31);font-family:&quot;Source Sans Pro&quot;,Helve=
+tica,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px"><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-mess=
+age gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message--modern gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message--=
+authorrepeat gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message-privmsg gmail-kiwi-messagelist-=
+message--own" style=3D"padding:0px 10px 15px;border-left:7px solid transpar=
+ent;overflow:hidden;line-height:1.5em;margin:0px;border-top:none;display:fl=
+ex;background-color:rgb(247,247,247)"><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-=
+modern-left" style=3D"display:flex;width:50px"></div><div class=3D"gmail-ki=
+wi-messagelist-modern-right" style=3D"margin-left:5px;padding-top:0px;width=
+:1369.86px"><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-body" style=3D"min-height:=
+0px;line-height:1.5em;font-size:1.05em;margin:0px;padding:0px;white-space:p=
+re-wrap">[Sat Jun 20 07:27:13.280938 2020] [:emerg] [pid 6535:tid 474356453=
+17568] AH00020: Configuration Failed, exiting
+[Sat Jun 20 07:27:13.280932 2020] [proxy_balancer:emerg] [pid 6535:tid 4743=
+5645317568] (17)File exists: AH01185: worker slotmem_create failed
+[Sat Jun 20 07:27:13.280858 2020] [slotmem_shm:error] [pid 6535:tid 4743564=
+5317568] (17)File exists: AH02611: create: apr_shm_create(/var/log/apache/<=
+a href=3D"http://s1.ariba.com/shm/slotmem-shm-p3696be5_s4ui_c138.shm">s1.ar=
+iba.com/shm/slotmem-shm-p3696be5_s4ui_c138.shm</a>) failed</div></div></div=
+></div><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-item" style=3D"overflow:hidden;=
+color:rgb(34,35,31);font-family:&quot;Source Sans Pro&quot;,Helvetica,sans-=
+serif;font-size:14.4px"><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message gmail-=
+kiwi-messagelist-message--modern gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message--authorrepe=
+at gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message-privmsg gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message--o=
+wn" style=3D"padding:0px 10px 15px;border-left:7px solid transparent;overfl=
+ow:hidden;line-height:1.5em;margin:0px;border-top:none;display:flex;backgro=
+und-color:rgb(247,247,247)"><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-modern-lef=
+t" style=3D"display:flex;width:50px"></div><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-message=
+list-modern-right" style=3D"margin-left:5px;padding-top:0px;width:1369.86px=
+"><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-body" style=3D"min-height:0px;line-h=
+eight:1.5em;font-size:1.05em;margin:0px;padding:0px;white-space:pre-wrap">i=
+s there a bug fix for this&gt; </div></div></div></div></div>
+
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+Message-ID: <b8...@christopherschultz.net>
+Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 10:52:32 -0400
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+Subject: [users@httpd] Which proxy modules are required for proxying Websocket connections?
+
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+Hash: SHA256
+
+All,
+
+If I want to allow HTTP connections to upgrade to WebSocket, which
+mod_proxy modules do I need to enable and configure?
+
+More specifically, do I need to enable+configure both mod_proxy_http
+AND mod_proxy_wstunnel, or only mod_proxy_wstunnel?
+
+<Proxy balancer://my-app>
+  # Do I need these?
+  BalancerMember http://node1/
+  BalancerMember http://node2/
+
+  # Or only these?
+  BalancerMember ws://node1/
+  BalancerMember ws://node2/
+
+  # Or both?
+</Proxy>
+
+ProxyPass /my-app/ balancer://my/app/
+
+Is the answer any different if I don't expect all connections to be
+upgraded from HTTP -> Websocket?
+
+Thanks!
+- -chris
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+From: Wendell Hatcher <we...@gmail.com>
+Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 16:00:11 -0400
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+Hi I am getting the following error we were not getting it in apache 2.4.17
+but we are getting in our upgraded version 2.4.39.
+AH02429: Response header name 'application/x-www-form-urlencoded' contains
+invalid characters, aborting request, referer:
+https://s1-integration.ariba.com/Buyer/Main/ad/contentPunchin/OCIPunchinDirectAction?sap-client=100&...
+<https://s1-integration.ariba.com/Buyer/Main/ad/contentPunchin/OCIPunchinDirectAction?sap-client=100&sap->
+my question are the items the upgraded version of apache will reject is
+there a list such as spaces etc... that it no longer accepts
+
+--000000000000bc40de05aa07ac24
+Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
+Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
+
+<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-item" style=3D"overfl=
+ow:hidden;color:rgb(34,35,31);font-family:&quot;Source Sans Pro&quot;,Helve=
+tica,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px"><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-mess=
+age gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message--modern gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message--=
+authorfirst gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message-privmsg gmail-kiwi-messagelist-m=
+essage--own" style=3D"padding:15px 10px;border-left:7px solid transparent;o=
+verflow:hidden;line-height:1.5em;margin:0px;display:flex;border-top-width:1=
+px;border-top-style:solid;background-color:rgb(247,247,247)"><div class=3D"=
+gmail-kiwi-messagelist-modern-right" style=3D"margin-left:5px;padding-top:0=
+px;width:1369.86px"><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-body" style=3D"min=
+-height:0px;line-height:1.5em;font-size:1.05em;margin:0px;padding:0px;white=
+-space:pre-wrap">Hi I am getting the following error we were not getting it=
+ in apache 2.4.17 but we are getting in our upgraded version 2.4.39.</div><=
+/div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-item" style=3D"overfl=
+ow:hidden;color:rgb(34,35,31);font-family:&quot;Source Sans Pro&quot;,Helve=
+tica,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px"><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-mess=
+age gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message--modern gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message--=
+authorrepeat gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message-privmsg gmail-kiwi-messagelist-=
+message--own" style=3D"padding:0px 10px 15px;border-left:7px solid transpar=
+ent;overflow:hidden;line-height:1.5em;margin:0px;border-top:none;display:fl=
+ex;background-color:rgb(247,247,247)"><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-=
+modern-left" style=3D"display:flex;width:50px"></div><div class=3D"gmail-ki=
+wi-messagelist-modern-right" style=3D"margin-left:5px;padding-top:0px;width=
+:1369.86px"><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-body" style=3D"min-height:=
+0px;line-height:1.5em;font-size:1.05em;margin:0px;padding:0px;white-space:p=
+re-wrap">AH02429: Response header name &#39;application/x-www-form-urlencod=
+ed&#39; contains invalid characters, aborting request, referer: <a target=
+=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://s1-integration.ariba.com/Buyer/Main/ad/contentP=
+unchin/OCIPunchinDirectAction?sap-client=3D100&amp;sap-" rel=3D"noopener no=
+referrer" style=3D"word-break:break-all">https://s1-integration.ariba.com/B=
+uyer/Main/ad/contentPunchin/OCIPunchinDirectAction?sap-client=3D100&amp;...=
+</a><a class=3D"gmail-fa gmail-fa-chevron-right gmail-kiwi-messagelist-mess=
+age-linkhandle" style=3D"margin-left:4px;font-size:inherit;display:inline-b=
+lock;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretc=
+h:normal;line-height:1;font-family:FontAwesome;word-break:break-all"></a></=
+div></div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-item" style=3D"o=
+verflow:hidden;margin-bottom:5px;color:rgb(34,35,31);font-family:&quot;Sour=
+ce Sans Pro&quot;,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px"><div class=3D"gmai=
+l-kiwi-messagelist-message gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message--modern gmail-kiw=
+i-messagelist-message--authorrepeat gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message-privmsg =
+gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message--own" style=3D"padding:0px 10px 15px;border-=
+left:7px solid transparent;overflow:hidden;line-height:1.5em;margin:0px;bor=
+der-top:none;display:flex;background-color:rgb(247,247,247)"><div class=3D"=
+gmail-kiwi-messagelist-modern-left" style=3D"display:flex;width:50px"></div=
+><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-modern-right" style=3D"margin-left:5p=
+x;padding-top:0px;width:1369.86px"><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-bod=
+y" style=3D"min-height:0px;line-height:1.5em;font-size:1.05em;margin:0px;pa=
+dding:0px;white-space:pre-wrap">my question are the items the upgraded vers=
+ion of apache will reject is there a list such as spaces etc... that it no =
+longer accepts </div></div></div></div></div>
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+
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+Hello
+With the following MPM settings
+<IfModule mpm_prefork_module>
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ServerLimit=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
+=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 500
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 StartServers=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 5
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 MinSpareServers=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
+=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 5
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 MaxSpareServers=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
+=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 10
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 MaxRequestWorkers=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
+=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 500
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 MaxConnectionsPerChild=C2=A0=C2=
+=A0 0
+</IfModule>
+
+
+
+I would like to know how can I reduce the occurrence of 503 (service unavai=
+lable) error? Should I increase ServerLimit only? Or MaxRequestWorkers? Or =
+increasing one and decreasing the other?
+
+
+Regards,
+Mahmood
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+<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydp82638eaeyahoo-style-wrap" style=
+=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px=
+;"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Hello</div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
+data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">With=
+ the following MPM settings</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br=
+></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><div>&lt;IfModule mpm_prefork=
+_module&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ServerLimit&nbsp;=
+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 500<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
+nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; StartServers&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
+sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; MinSpareServers&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
+;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; M=
+axSpareServers&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 10<br>=
+&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; MaxRequestWorkers&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
+sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 500<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
+p;&nbsp; MaxConnectionsPerChild&nbsp;&nbsp; 0<br>&lt;/IfModule&gt;<br><br><=
+/div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I=
+ would like to know how can I reduce the occurrence of 503 (service unavail=
+able) error? Should I increase ServerLimit only? Or MaxRequestWorkers? Or i=
+ncreasing one and decreasing the other?</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=
+=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div></div=
+><div><br></div><div class=3D"ydp82638eaesignature">Regards,<br>Mahmood</di=
+v></div></div></body></html>
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+From: Mahmood Naderan <nt...@yahoo.com.INVALID>
+Reply-To: Mahmood Naderan <nt...@yahoo.com>
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+Subject: [users@httpd] Checking if MPM is working
+
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+Hi
+The output of "apache2 -V" and "apache2 -l" commands show that MPM prefork =
+is not available in my apache web server.
+
+
+# apache2 -V
+[Fri Jul 10 15:13:36.293467 2020] [core:warn] [pid 25107] AH00111: Config v=
+ariable ${APACHE_RUN_DIR} is not defined
+apache2: Syntax error on line 80 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: DefaultRunti=
+meDir must be a valid directory, absolute or relative to ServerRoot
+Server version: Apache/2.4.29 (Ubuntu)
+Server built:=C2=A0=C2=A0 2020-03-13T12:26:16
+Server's Module Magic Number: 20120211:68
+Server loaded:=C2=A0 APR 1.6.3, APR-UTIL 1.6.1
+Compiled using: APR 1.6.3, APR-UTIL 1.6.1
+Architecture:=C2=A0=C2=A0 64-bit
+Server MPM:
+Server compiled with....
+=C2=A0-D APR_HAS_SENDFILE
+=C2=A0-D APR_HAS_MMAP
+=C2=A0-D APR_HAVE_IPV6 (IPv4-mapped addresses enabled)
+=C2=A0-D APR_USE_SYSVSEM_SERIALIZE
+=C2=A0-D APR_USE_PTHREAD_SERIALIZE
+=C2=A0-D SINGLE_LISTEN_UNSERIALIZED_ACCEPT
+=C2=A0-D APR_HAS_OTHER_CHILD
+=C2=A0-D AP_HAVE_RELIABLE_PIPED_LOGS
+=C2=A0-D DYNAMIC_MODULE_LIMIT=3D256
+=C2=A0-D HTTPD_ROOT=3D"/etc/apache2"
+=C2=A0-D SUEXEC_BIN=3D"/usr/lib/apache2/suexec"
+=C2=A0-D DEFAULT_PIDLOG=3D"/var/run/apache2.pid"
+=C2=A0-D DEFAULT_SCOREBOARD=3D"logs/apache_runtime_status"
+=C2=A0-D DEFAULT_ERRORLOG=3D"logs/error_log"
+=C2=A0-D AP_TYPES_CONFIG_FILE=3D"mime.types"
+=C2=A0-D SERVER_CONFIG_FILE=3D"apache2.conf"
+# apache2 -l
+Compiled in modules:
+=C2=A0 core.c
+=C2=A0 mod_so.c
+=C2=A0 mod_watchdog.c
+=C2=A0 http_core.c
+=C2=A0 mod_log_config.c
+=C2=A0 mod_logio.c
+=C2=A0 mod_version.c
+=C2=A0 mod_unixd.c
+
+
+
+However, if I change the value of MaxRequestWorkers in mod-enabled/mpm_pref=
+ork.conf and restart the web server, I can verify that the number of dots i=
+n /server-status changes.
+
+So, am I using prefork or not? Any idea?
+
+
+Regards,
+Mahmood
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+<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydpfc3ea9f0yahoo-style-wrap" style=
+=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px=
+;"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Hi</div><div dir=3D"ltr" dat=
+a-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">The out=
+put of "apache2 -V" and "apache2 -l" commands show that MPM prefork is not =
+available in my apache web server.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fal=
+se"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div><br></d=
+iv><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><div># apache2 -V<br>[Fri Jul 10 =
+15:13:36.293467 2020] [core:warn] [pid 25107] AH00111: Config variable ${AP=
+ACHE_RUN_DIR} is not defined<br>apache2: Syntax error on line 80 of /etc/ap=
+ache2/apache2.conf: DefaultRuntimeDir must be a valid directory, absolute o=
+r relative to ServerRoot<br>Server version: Apache/2.4.29 (Ubuntu)<br>Serve=
+r built:&nbsp;&nbsp; 2020-03-13T12:26:16<br>Server's Module Magic Number: 2=
+0120211:68<br>Server loaded:&nbsp; APR 1.6.3, APR-UTIL 1.6.1<br>Compiled us=
+ing: APR 1.6.3, APR-UTIL 1.6.1<br>Architecture:&nbsp;&nbsp; 64-bit<br>Serve=
+r MPM:<br>Server compiled with....<br>&nbsp;-D APR_HAS_SENDFILE<br>&nbsp;-D=
+ APR_HAS_MMAP<br>&nbsp;-D APR_HAVE_IPV6 (IPv4-mapped addresses enabled)<br>=
+&nbsp;-D APR_USE_SYSVSEM_SERIALIZE<br>&nbsp;-D APR_USE_PTHREAD_SERIALIZE<br=
+>&nbsp;-D SINGLE_LISTEN_UNSERIALIZED_ACCEPT<br>&nbsp;-D APR_HAS_OTHER_CHILD=
+<br>&nbsp;-D AP_HAVE_RELIABLE_PIPED_LOGS<br>&nbsp;-D DYNAMIC_MODULE_LIMIT=
+=3D256<br>&nbsp;-D HTTPD_ROOT=3D"/etc/apache2"<br>&nbsp;-D SUEXEC_BIN=3D"/u=
+sr/lib/apache2/suexec"<br>&nbsp;-D DEFAULT_PIDLOG=3D"/var/run/apache2.pid"<=
+br>&nbsp;-D DEFAULT_SCOREBOARD=3D"logs/apache_runtime_status"<br>&nbsp;-D D=
+EFAULT_ERRORLOG=3D"logs/error_log"<br>&nbsp;-D AP_TYPES_CONFIG_FILE=3D"mime=
+.types"<br>&nbsp;-D SERVER_CONFIG_FILE=3D"apache2.conf"<br># apache2 -l<br>=
+Compiled in modules:<br>&nbsp; core.c<br>&nbsp; mod_so.c<br>&nbsp; mod_watc=
+hdog.c<br>&nbsp; http_core.c<br>&nbsp; mod_log_config.c<br>&nbsp; mod_logio=
+.c<br>&nbsp; mod_version.c<br>&nbsp; mod_unixd.c<br><br></div><div><br></di=
+v><div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">However, if I chang=
+e the value of <span>MaxRequestWorkers in mod-enabled/<span>mpm_prefork.con=
+f and restart the web server, I can verify that the number of dots in /serv=
+er-status changes.</span></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false=
+"><span><span><br></span></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false=
+"><span><span><br></span></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false=
+"><span><span>So, am I using prefork or not? Any idea?</span></span><br></d=
+iv><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"ydpfc3ea9f0signature">=
+Regards,<br>Mahmood</div></div></div></body></html>
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+
+Your best option to do that might be to add a separate file with that
+config and call it with IncludeOptional
+
+For example:
+
+<Macro VHost $name $domain><VirtualHost *:80>
+    ServerName $domain
+    ServerAlias www.$domain
+
+    DocumentRoot "/var/www/vhosts/$name"
+    ErrorLog "/var/log/httpd/$name.error_log"
+    CustomLog "/var/log/httpd/$name.access_log" combined
+
+    IncludeOptional "/var/www/config/$name.conf"</VirtualHost></Macro>
+
+
+You can then add the different config to those files.
+
+- Y
+
+On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 4:25 PM Darryl Philip Baker <
+darryl.baker@northwestern.edu> wrote:
+
+> I am getting a set of over 50 sites moved over to my server from elsewher=
+e
+> and the content manager want to duplicate each of these in a dev subdomai=
+n.
+> An example eatatjoes.example.com and eatatjoes.dev.example.com. I am
+> thinking that I can include the same configuration file twice if I replac=
+e
+> the =E2=80=9Cdev.=E2=80=9D with a macro. The first time in include the fi=
+le the macro has
+> the value of =E2=80=9C.=E2=80=9D And the second time the value of the mac=
+ro is =E2=80=9Cdev.=E2=80=9D I
+> would do something similar for the document directory.
+>
+>
+>
+> Is there a way of keeping some directives from being in the live
+> configuration for just the second time I include the file?
+>
+>
+>
+> In my case there are likely to be redirects as they test a site prior to =
+a
+> relaunch. They like to keep bookmarks working even after restructuring a
+> site.
+>
+>
+>
+> *Darryl Baker, *GSEC  (he/him/his)
+>
+> Sr. System Administrator
+>
+> Distributed Application Platform Services
+>
+> *Northwestern University*
+>
+> 1800 Sherman Ave.
+>
+> Suite 6-600 =E2=80=93 Box #39
+>
+> Evanston, IL  60201-3715
+>
+> *darryl.baker@northwestern.edu <da...@northwestern.edu>*
+>
+> (847) 467-6674
+>
+>
+>
+
+--000000000000ee51a905aa15afbc
+Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
+Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
+
+<div dir=3D"ltr">Your best option to do that might be to add a separate fil=
+e with that config and call it with IncludeOptional<div><br></div><div>For =
+example:</div><div><pre class=3D"gmail-prettyprint gmail-lang-config gmail-=
+prettyprinted" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;,Courier,monospa=
+ce;padding:0.5em;border:none;overflow:auto hidden;background-color:rgb(229,=
+236,243);color:rgb(0,0,0);margin:1em 2em 1em 1em;font-size:14px"><span clas=
+s=3D"gmail-pun" style=3D"color:rgb(102,102,0)">&lt;</span><span class=3D"gm=
+ail-tag" style=3D"color:rgb(136,34,17);font-weight:bold">Macro</span><span =
+class=3D"gmail-pln"> </span><span class=3D"gmail-typ" style=3D"color:rgb(68=
+,0,68)">VHost</span><span class=3D"gmail-pln"> $name $domain</span><span cl=
+ass=3D"gmail-pun" style=3D"color:rgb(102,102,0)">&gt;</span><span class=3D"=
+gmail-pln">
+</span><span class=3D"gmail-pun" style=3D"color:rgb(102,102,0)">&lt;</span>=
+<span class=3D"gmail-tag" style=3D"color:rgb(136,34,17);font-weight:bold">V=
+irtualHost</span><span class=3D"gmail-pln"> </span><span class=3D"gmail-pun=
+" style=3D"color:rgb(102,102,0)">*:</span><span class=3D"gmail-lit" style=
+=3D"color:rgb(0,119,119)">80</span><span class=3D"gmail-pun" style=3D"color=
+:rgb(102,102,0)">&gt;</span><span class=3D"gmail-pln">
+    </span><span class=3D"gmail-kwd" style=3D"color:rgb(17,34,136);font-wei=
+ght:bold">ServerName</span><span class=3D"gmail-pln"> $domain
+    </span><span class=3D"gmail-kwd" style=3D"color:rgb(17,34,136);font-wei=
+ght:bold">ServerAlias</span><span class=3D"gmail-pln"> www</span><span clas=
+s=3D"gmail-pun" style=3D"color:rgb(102,102,0)">.</span><span class=3D"gmail=
+-pln">$domain
+
+    </span><span class=3D"gmail-kwd" style=3D"color:rgb(17,34,136);font-wei=
+ght:bold">DocumentRoot</span><span class=3D"gmail-pln"> </span><span class=
+=3D"gmail-str" style=3D"color:rgb(0,102,0)">&quot;/var/www/vhosts/$name&quo=
+t;</span><span class=3D"gmail-pln">
+    </span><span class=3D"gmail-kwd" style=3D"color:rgb(17,34,136);font-wei=
+ght:bold">ErrorLog</span><span class=3D"gmail-pln"> </span><span class=3D"g=
+mail-str" style=3D"color:rgb(0,102,0)">&quot;/var/log/httpd/$name.error_log=
+&quot;</span><span class=3D"gmail-pln">
+    </span><span class=3D"gmail-kwd" style=3D"color:rgb(17,34,136);font-wei=
+ght:bold">CustomLog</span><span class=3D"gmail-pln"> </span><span class=3D"=
+gmail-str" style=3D"color:rgb(0,102,0)">&quot;/var/log/httpd/$name.access_l=
+og&quot;</span><span class=3D"gmail-pln"> combined
+   =20
+    </span><span class=3D"gmail-kwd" style=3D"color:rgb(17,34,136);font-wei=
+ght:bold">IncludeOptional</span><span class=3D"gmail-pln"> </span><span cla=
+ss=3D"gmail-str" style=3D"color:rgb(0,102,0)">&quot;/var/www/config/$name.c=
+onf&quot;</span><span class=3D"gmail-pln">
+</span><span class=3D"gmail-pun" style=3D"color:rgb(102,102,0)">&lt;/</span=
+><span class=3D"gmail-tag" style=3D"color:rgb(136,34,17);font-weight:bold">=
+VirtualHost</span><span class=3D"gmail-pun" style=3D"color:rgb(102,102,0)">=
+&gt;</span><span class=3D"gmail-pln">
+</span><span class=3D"gmail-pun" style=3D"color:rgb(102,102,0)">&lt;/</span=
+><span class=3D"gmail-tag" style=3D"color:rgb(136,34,17);font-weight:bold">=
+Macro</span><span class=3D"gmail-pun" style=3D"color:rgb(102,102,0)">&gt;</=
+span></pre></div><div><br></div><div>You can then add the different config =
+to those files.</div><div><br></div><div>- Y</div></div><br><div class=3D"g=
+mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 4:=
+25 PM Darryl Philip Baker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:darryl.baker@northwestern.e=
+du">darryl.baker@northwestern.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
+=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
+b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+
+
+
+
+<div lang=3D"EN-US">
+<div class=3D"gmail-m_5480286994228534320WordSection1">
+<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">I am getting a set of=
+ over 50 sites moved over to my server from elsewhere and the content manag=
+er want to duplicate each of these in a dev subdomain. An example <a href=
+=3D"http://eatatjoes.example.com" target=3D"_blank">eatatjoes.example.com</=
+a> and <a href=3D"http://eatatjoes.dev.example.com" target=3D"_blank">eatat=
+joes.dev.example.com</a>.
+ I am thinking that I can include the same configuration file twice if I re=
+place the =E2=80=9Cdev.=E2=80=9D with a macro. The first time in include th=
+e file the macro has the value of =E2=80=9C.=E2=80=9D And the second time t=
+he value of the macro is =E2=80=9Cdev.=E2=80=9D I would do something simila=
+r for
+ the document directory.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
+<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
+/span></p>
+<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">Is there a way of kee=
+ping some directives from being in the live configuration for just the seco=
+nd time I include the file?
+<u></u><u></u></span></p>
+<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
+/span></p>
+<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">In my case there are =
+likely to be redirects as they test a site prior to a relaunch. They like t=
+o keep bookmarks working even after restructuring a site.<u></u><u></u></sp=
+an></p>
+<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
+/span></p>
+<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color=
+:black">Darryl Baker,
+</span></b><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">GSEC<b>=
+ </b></span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;color:black">=C2=A0(he/him/his)</=
+span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
+<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:bl=
+ack">Sr. System Administrator</span><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u><=
+/u></span></p>
+<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:bl=
+ack">Distributed Application Platform Services</span><span style=3D"color:b=
+lack"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
+<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color=
+:rgb(78,42,132)">Northwestern University</span></b><span style=3D"color:bla=
+ck"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
+<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:bl=
+ack">1800 Sherman Ave.</span><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></sp=
+an></p>
+<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:bl=
+ack">Suite 6-600 =E2=80=93 Box #39</span><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u=
+><u></u></span></p>
+<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:bl=
+ack">Evanston, IL=C2=A0 60201-3715</span><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u=
+><u></u></span></p>
+<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color=
+:black"><a href=3D"mailto:darryl.baker@northwestern.edu" target=3D"_blank">=
+<span style=3D"color:rgb(5,99,193)">darryl.baker@northwestern.edu</span></a=
+></span></u><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
+<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:bl=
+ack">(847) 467-6674</span><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span>=
+</p>
+<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
+</div>
+</div>
+
+</blockquote></div>
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+Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Checking if MPM is working
+
+Am 10.07.20 um 12:47 schrieb Mahmood Naderan:
+> Hi
+> 
+> The output of "apache2 -V" and "apache2 -l" commands show that MPM 
+> prefork is not available in my apache web server.
+
+which os? i see ubuntu. but which one?
+
+> # apache2 -V
+> [Fri Jul 10 15:13:36.293467 2020] [core:warn] [pid 25107] AH00111: 
+> Config variable ${APACHE_RUN_DIR} is not defined
+> apache2: Syntax error on line 80 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: 
+> DefaultRuntimeDir must be a valid directory, absolute or relative to 
+> ServerRoot
+
+Did you see this syntax error?
+
+> Server version: Apache/2.4.29 (Ubuntu)
+> Server built:   2020-03-13T12:26:16
+> Server's Module Magic Number: 20120211:68
+> Server loaded:  APR 1.6.3, APR-UTIL 1.6.1
+> Compiled using: APR 1.6.3, APR-UTIL 1.6.1
+> Architecture:   64-bit
+> Server MPM:
+> Server compiled with....
+>   -D APR_HAS_SENDFILE
+>   -D APR_HAS_MMAP
+>   -D APR_HAVE_IPV6 (IPv4-mapped addresses enabled)
+>   -D APR_USE_SYSVSEM_SERIALIZE
+>   -D APR_USE_PTHREAD_SERIALIZE
+>   -D SINGLE_LISTEN_UNSERIALIZED_ACCEPT
+>   -D APR_HAS_OTHER_CHILD
+>   -D AP_HAVE_RELIABLE_PIPED_LOGS
+>   -D DYNAMIC_MODULE_LIMIT=256
+>   -D HTTPD_ROOT="/etc/apache2"
+>   -D SUEXEC_BIN="/usr/lib/apache2/suexec"
+>   -D DEFAULT_PIDLOG="/var/run/apache2.pid"
+>   -D DEFAULT_SCOREBOARD="logs/apache_runtime_status"
+>   -D DEFAULT_ERRORLOG="logs/error_log"
+>   -D AP_TYPES_CONFIG_FILE="mime.types"
+>   -D SERVER_CONFIG_FILE="apache2.conf"
+> # apache2 -l
+> Compiled in modules:
+>    core.c
+>    mod_so.c
+>    mod_watchdog.c
+>    http_core.c
+>    mod_log_config.c
+>    mod_logio.c
+>    mod_version.c
+>    mod_unixd.c
+> 
+> 
+> 
+> However, if I change the value of MaxRequestWorkers in 
+> mod-enabled/mpm_prefork.conf and restart the web server, I can verify 
+> that the number of dots in /server-status changes.
+> 
+> 
+> So, am I using prefork or not? Any idea?
+
+look in the mods-enabled directory. there should a file containing mpm 
+in the name.
+
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+Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 10:42:55 -0400
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+Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Checking if MPM is working
+
+> # apache2 -V
+> [Fri Jul 10 15:13:36.293467 2020] [core:warn] [pid 25107] AH00111: Config variable ${APACHE_RUN_DIR} is not defined
+
+use apachectl
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+From: Mahmood Naderan <nt...@yahoo.com.INVALID>
+Reply-To: Mahmood Naderan <nt...@yahoo.com>
+To: users@httpd.apache.org
+Message-ID: <17...@mail.yahoo.com>
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+Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Checking if MPM is working
+
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+
+The server is Ubuntu 18.04 and I installed that via apt. The apachectl comm=
+and says it is using MPM.
+
+
+# apachectl status
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
+=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Apache Server Status for localhost (via ::1)
+
+=C2=A0=C2=A0 Server Version: Apache/2.4.29 (Ubuntu) OpenSSL/1.1.1
+
+=C2=A0=C2=A0 Server MPM: prefork
+
+=C2=A0=C2=A0 Server Built: 2020-03-13T12:26:16
+
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 --------------------------------------------------=
+--------------------
+
+=C2=A0=C2=A0 Current Time: Friday, 10-Jul-2020 21:00:16 +0430
+
+=C2=A0=C2=A0 Restart Time: Friday, 10-Jul-2020 15:10:54 +0430
+
+=C2=A0=C2=A0 Parent Server Config. Generation: 1
+
+=C2=A0=C2=A0 Parent Server MPM Generation: 0
+
+=C2=A0=C2=A0 Server uptime: 5 hours 49 minutes 22 seconds
+
+=C2=A0=C2=A0 Server load: 1.81 2.09 2.14
+
+=C2=A0=C2=A0 Total accesses: 287766 - Total Traffic: 63.6 GB
+
+=C2=A0=C2=A0 CPU Usage: u376.8 s74.98 cu0 cs0 - 2.16% CPU load
+
+=C2=A0=C2=A0 13.7 requests/sec - 3.1 MB/second - 231.7 kB/request
+
+=C2=A0=C2=A0 62 requests currently being processed, 28 idle workers
+
+=C2=A0WRK._WKKKRWRKR_W_WR_RRWWC.K___WKW____K__W__WR_K_WRR_WRWKKRR_WKKR
+=C2=A0W..RK_K_R__RR.WW.KW._.R.R...K._W.._W.K.._..W........C.._........
+=C2=A0................................................................
+=C2=A0................................................................
+=C2=A0................................................................
+=C2=A0................................................................
+=C2=A0................................................................
+=C2=A0................................................................
+=C2=A0................................................................
+=C2=A0........................
+
+=C2=A0=C2=A0 Scoreboard Key:
+=C2=A0=C2=A0 "_" Waiting for Connection, "S" Starting up, "R" Reading Reque=
+st,
+=C2=A0=C2=A0 "W" Sending Reply, "K" Keepalive (read), "D" DNS Lookup,
+=C2=A0=C2=A0 "C" Closing connection, "L" Logging, "G" Gracefully finishing,
+=C2=A0=C2=A0 "I" Idle cleanup of worker, "." Open slot with no current proc=
+ess
+
+
+
+
+
+>Did you see this syntax error?
+
+Regarding that error, the following line in not commented=20
+
+DefaultRuntimeDir ${APACHE_RUN_DIR}
+
+I don't remember that I have intentionally uncommentted that. What is the d=
+efault setting then?
+
+Regards,
+Mahmood=20
+
+
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+Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
+
+<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydpc11859ayahoo-style-wrap" style=3D=
+"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">=
+<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fals=
+e">The server is Ubuntu 18.04 and I installed that via apt. The apachectl c=
+ommand says it is using MPM.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><b=
+r></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" d=
+ata-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><div>=
+# apachectl status<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
+;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Apache Server Status for =
+localhost (via ::1)<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp; Server Version: Apache/2.4.29 (Ubun=
+tu) OpenSSL/1.1.1<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp; Server MPM: prefork<br><br>&nbsp;&nbs=
+p; Server Built: 2020-03-13T12:26:16<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ------=
+----------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>&nb=
+sp;&nbsp; Current Time: Friday, 10-Jul-2020 21:00:16 +0430<br><br>&nbsp;&nb=
+sp; Restart Time: Friday, 10-Jul-2020 15:10:54 +0430<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp; Pa=
+rent Server Config. Generation: 1<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp; Parent Server MPM Gen=
+eration: 0<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp; Server uptime: 5 hours 49 minutes 22 seconds=
+<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp; Server load: 1.81 2.09 2.14<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp; Total =
+accesses: 287766 - Total Traffic: 63.6 GB<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp; CPU Usage: u3=
+76.8 s74.98 cu0 cs0 - 2.16% CPU load<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp; 13.7 requests/sec =
+- 3.1 MB/second - 231.7 kB/request<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp; 62 requests currentl=
+y being processed, 28 idle workers<br><br>&nbsp;WRK._WKKKRWRKR_W_WR_RRWWC.K=
+___WKW____K__W__WR_K_WRR_WRWKKRR_WKKR<br>&nbsp;W..RK_K_R__RR.WW.KW._.R.R...=
+K._W.._W.K.._..W........C.._........<br>&nbsp;.............................=
+...................................<br>&nbsp;..............................=
+..................................<br>&nbsp;...............................=
+.................................<br>&nbsp;................................=
+................................<br>&nbsp;.................................=
+...............................<br>&nbsp;..................................=
+..............................<br>&nbsp;...................................=
+.............................<br>&nbsp;........................<br><br>&nbs=
+p;&nbsp; Scoreboard Key:<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; "_" Waiting for Connection, "S" St=
+arting up, "R" Reading Request,<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; "W" Sending Reply, "K" Keep=
+alive (read), "D" DNS Lookup,<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; "C" Closing connection, "L" L=
+ogging, "G" Gracefully finishing,<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; "I" Idle cleanup of worke=
+r, "." Open slot with no current process<br><br></div><div><br></div><div><=
+br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fals=
+e"><span>&gt;Did you see this syntax error?</span><br></div><div><br></div>=
+<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Regarding that error, the following =
+line in not commented <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br>=
+</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><span>DefaultRuntimeDir ${APAC=
+HE_RUN_DIR}</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><span><br></=
+span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><span><br></span></div><d=
+iv dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><span>I don't remember that I have int=
+entionally uncommentted that. What is the default setting then?</span></div=
+><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><span></span><br></div></div><div><=
+br></div><div class=3D"ydpc11859asignature">Regards,<br>Mahmood</div></div>
+        <div><br></div></div><div><br></div></body></html>
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+From: Mahmood Naderan <nt...@yahoo.com.INVALID>
+Reply-To: Mahmood Naderan <nt...@yahoo.com>
+To: users@httpd.apache.org
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+Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Checking if MPM is working
+
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+
+>Did you see this syntax error?
+
+OK I commented that line and left that to the apache's default.
+Now I can see MPM status
+
+# apache2 -V
+[Fri Jul 10 21:15:32.121146 2020] [core:warn] [pid 49516] AH00111: Config v=
+ariable ${APACHE_PID_FILE} is not defined
+[Fri Jul 10 21:15:32.121269 2020] [core:warn] [pid 49516] AH00111: Config v=
+ariable ${APACHE_RUN_USER} is not defined
+[Fri Jul 10 21:15:32.121285 2020] [core:warn] [pid 49516] AH00111: Config v=
+ariable ${APACHE_RUN_GROUP} is not defined
+[Fri Jul 10 21:15:32.121306 2020] [core:warn] [pid 49516] AH00111: Config v=
+ariable ${APACHE_LOG_DIR} is not defined
+[Fri Jul 10 21:15:32.165899 2020] [core:warn] [pid 49516] AH00111: Config v=
+ariable ${APACHE_RUN_DIR} is not defined
+[Fri Jul 10 21:15:32.166652 2020] [core:warn] [pid 49516] AH00111: Config v=
+ariable ${APACHE_LOG_DIR} is not defined
+[Fri Jul 10 21:15:32.167426 2020] [core:warn] [pid 49516] AH00111: Config v=
+ariable ${APACHE_LOG_DIR} is not defined
+[Fri Jul 10 21:15:32.167460 2020] [core:warn] [pid 49516] AH00111: Config v=
+ariable ${APACHE_LOG_DIR} is not defined
+[Fri Jul 10 21:15:32.167680 2020] [core:warn] [pid 49516] AH00111: Config v=
+ariable ${APACHE_LOG_DIR} is not defined
+[Fri Jul 10 21:15:32.167712 2020] [core:warn] [pid 49516] AH00111: Config v=
+ariable ${APACHE_LOG_DIR} is not defined
+Server version: Apache/2.4.29 (Ubuntu)
+Server built:=C2=A0=C2=A0 2020-03-13T12:26:16
+Server's Module Magic Number: 20120211:68
+Server loaded:=C2=A0 APR 1.6.3, APR-UTIL 1.6.1
+Compiled using: APR 1.6.3, APR-UTIL 1.6.1
+Architecture:=C2=A0=C2=A0 64-bit
+Server MPM:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 prefork
+=C2=A0 threaded:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 no
+=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 forked:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 yes (variable process co=
+unt)
+
+
+
+Regards,
+Mahmood=20
+
+
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+
+<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydp4d35dca8yahoo-style-wrap" style=
+=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px=
+;"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><span>&gt;Did you see this s=
+yntax error?</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><span><br><=
+/span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><span><br></span></div><=
+div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><span></span>OK I commented that line=
+ and left that to the apache's default.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=
+=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Now I can see M=
+PM status</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D=
+"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div># apache2 -V<br><div dir=3D"ltr" data=
+-setdir=3D"false"><div>[Fri Jul 10 21:15:32.121146 2020] [core:warn] [pid 4=
+9516] AH00111: Config variable ${APACHE_PID_FILE} is not defined<br>[Fri Ju=
+l 10 21:15:32.121269 2020] [core:warn] [pid 49516] AH00111: Config variable=
+ ${APACHE_RUN_USER} is not defined<br>[Fri Jul 10 21:15:32.121285 2020] [co=
+re:warn] [pid 49516] AH00111: Config variable ${APACHE_RUN_GROUP} is not de=
+fined<br>[Fri Jul 10 21:15:32.121306 2020] [core:warn] [pid 49516] AH00111:=
+ Config variable ${APACHE_LOG_DIR} is not defined<br>[Fri Jul 10 21:15:32.1=
+65899 2020] [core:warn] [pid 49516] AH00111: Config variable ${APACHE_RUN_D=
+IR} is not defined<br>[Fri Jul 10 21:15:32.166652 2020] [core:warn] [pid 49=
+516] AH00111: Config variable ${APACHE_LOG_DIR} is not defined<br>[Fri Jul =
+10 21:15:32.167426 2020] [core:warn] [pid 49516] AH00111: Config variable $=
+{APACHE_LOG_DIR} is not defined<br>[Fri Jul 10 21:15:32.167460 2020] [core:=
+warn] [pid 49516] AH00111: Config variable ${APACHE_LOG_DIR} is not defined=
+<br>[Fri Jul 10 21:15:32.167680 2020] [core:warn] [pid 49516] AH00111: Conf=
+ig variable ${APACHE_LOG_DIR} is not defined<br>[Fri Jul 10 21:15:32.167712=
+ 2020] [core:warn] [pid 49516] AH00111: Config variable ${APACHE_LOG_DIR} i=
+s not defined<br>Server version: Apache/2.4.29 (Ubuntu)<br>Server built:&nb=
+sp;&nbsp; 2020-03-13T12:26:16<br>Server's Module Magic Number: 20120211:68<=
+br>Server loaded:&nbsp; APR 1.6.3, APR-UTIL 1.6.1<br>Compiled using: APR 1.=
+6.3, APR-UTIL 1.6.1<br>Architecture:&nbsp;&nbsp; 64-bit<br>Server MPM:&nbsp=
+;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; prefork<br>&nbsp; threaded:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; no<=
+br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; forked:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; yes (variable process=
+ count)<br><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div class=3D"ydp4=
+d35dca8signature">Regards,<br>Mahmood</div></div>
+        <div><br></div></div><div><br></div></body></html>
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+
+On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 12:47 PM Mahmood Naderan
+<nt...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
+>
+> >Did you see this syntax error?
+>
+>
+> OK I commented that line and left that to the apache's default.
+
+Put it back and continue to invoke apachectl instead of "apache2".
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+Subject: [users@httpd] Failure to start apache2 after SSL cert update.
+
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+I recently updated two virtual servers with new SSL certificates, =
+restarted apache and got a failure to load.
+
+Here is a diagnostic:
+
+ systemctl  status apache2.service
+=E2=97=8F apache2.service - The Apache Webserver
+   Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/apache2.service; enabled; =
+vendor preset: disabled)
+   Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2020-07-10 14:51:00 PDT; =
+19s ago
+  Process: 11801 ExecStart=3D/usr/sbin/start_apache2 -DSYSTEMD =
+-DFOREGROUND -k start (code=3Dexited, status=3D1/FAILURE)
+ Main PID: 11801 (code=3Dexited, status=3D1/FAILURE)
+
+Jul 10 14:51:00 server systemd[1]: Starting The Apache Webserver...
+Jul 10 14:51:00 server systemd[1]: apache2.service: Main process exited, =
+code=3Dexited, status=3D1/FAILURE
+Jul 10 14:51:00 server systemd[1]: Failed to start The Apache Webserver.
+Jul 10 14:51:00 server systemd[1]: apache2.service: Unit entered failed =
+state.
+Jul 10 14:51:00 server systemd[1]: apache2.service: Failed with result =
+'exit-code'.
+
+Any suggestions?
+
+Jack=
+
+--Apple-Mail=_1C0E7FA9-2CDE-4F59-BC18-EB327F973EFF
+Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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+
+<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
+charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
+-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">I =
+recently updated two virtual servers with new SSL certificates, =
+restarted apache and got a failure to load.<div class=3D""><br =
+class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Here is a diagnostic:</div><div =
+class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
+0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; =
+font-family: Courier; color: rgb(255, 238, 149); background-color: =
+rgb(21, 102, 47);" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: =
+no-common-ligatures" class=3D"">&nbsp;systemctl&nbsp; status =
+apache2.service</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: =
+normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: Courier; =
+color: rgb(255, 238, 149); background-color: rgb(21, 102, 47);" =
+class=3D""><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; =
+color: #610001" class=3D""><b class=3D"">=E2=97=8F</b></span><span =
+style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D""> =
+apache2.service - The Apache Webserver</span></div><div style=3D"margin: =
+0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; =
+font-family: Courier; color: rgb(255, 238, 149); background-color: =
+rgb(21, 102, 47);" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: =
+no-common-ligatures" class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp; Loaded: loaded =
+(/usr/lib/systemd/system/apache2.service; enabled; vendor preset: =
+disabled)</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; =
+font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: Courier; color: =
+rgb(255, 238, 149); background-color: rgb(21, 102, 47);" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" =
+class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp; Active: </span><span =
+style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #610001" =
+class=3D""><b class=3D"">failed</b></span><span =
+style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D""> =
+(Result: exit-code) since Fri 2020-07-10 14:51:00 PDT; 19s =
+ago</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; =
+font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: Courier; color: =
+rgb(255, 238, 149); background-color: rgb(21, 102, 47);" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D"">&nbsp; =
+Process: 11801 ExecStart=3D/usr/sbin/start_apache2 -DSYSTEMD =
+-DFOREGROUND -k start </span><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: =
+no-common-ligatures; color: #610001" class=3D""><b =
+class=3D"">(code=3Dexited, status=3D1/FAILURE)</b></span></div><div =
+style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12px; =
+line-height: normal; font-family: Courier; color: rgb(255, 238, 149); =
+background-color: rgb(21, 102, 47);" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" =
+class=3D"">&nbsp;Main PID: 11801 (code=3Dexited, =
+status=3D1/FAILURE)</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: =
+normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: Courier; =
+color: rgb(255, 238, 149); background-color: rgb(21, 102, 47); =
+min-height: 14px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: =
+no-common-ligatures" class=3D""></span><br class=3D""></div><div =
+style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12px; =
+line-height: normal; font-family: Courier; color: rgb(255, 238, 149); =
+background-color: rgb(21, 102, 47);" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D"">Jul 10 =
+14:51:00 server systemd[1]: Starting The Apache =
+Webserver...</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: =
+normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: Courier; =
+color: rgb(253, 161, 46); background-color: rgb(21, 102, 47);" =
+class=3D""><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; =
+color: #ffee95" class=3D"">Jul 10 14:51:00 server systemd[1]: =
+</span><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" =
+class=3D""><b class=3D"">apache2.service: Main process exited, =
+code=3Dexited, status=3D1/FAILURE</b></span></div><div style=3D"margin: =
+0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; =
+font-family: Courier; color: rgb(97, 0, 1); background-color: rgb(21, =
+102, 47);" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: =
+no-common-ligatures; color: #ffee95" class=3D"">Jul 10 14:51:00 server =
+systemd[1]: </span><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: =
+no-common-ligatures" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Failed to start The Apache =
+Webserver.</b></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: =
+normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: Courier; =
+color: rgb(253, 161, 46); background-color: rgb(21, 102, 47);" =
+class=3D""><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; =
+color: #ffee95" class=3D"">Jul 10 14:51:00 server systemd[1]: =
+</span><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" =
+class=3D""><b class=3D"">apache2.service: Unit entered failed =
+state.</b></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; =
+font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: Courier; color: =
+rgb(253, 161, 46); background-color: rgb(21, 102, 47);" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #ffee95" =
+class=3D"">Jul 10 14:51:00 server systemd[1]: </span><span =
+style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D""><b =
+class=3D"">apache2.service: Failed with result =
+'exit-code'.</b></span></div>
+<br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Any suggestions?</div><div =
+class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Jack</div></body></html>=
+
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+Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Failure to start apache2 after SSL cert update.
+
+On Friday 10 July 2020 at 23:54:05, Jack M. Nilles wrote:
+
+> I recently updated two virtual servers with new SSL certificates, restarted
+> apache and got a failure to load.
+> 
+> Here is a diagnostic:
+
+Never mind what systemd tells you - what's in your apache log files?
+
+Also, have you checked the ownership & permissions of the new certificates and 
+keys are the same as the old ones?
+
+
+Antony.
+
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+Have you checked the apache error logs?
+
+En 10 jul=2E 2020 23:54, en 23:54,=
+ "Jack M=2E Nilles" <jnilles@jala=2Ecom> escribi=C3=B3:
+>I recently updated=
+ two virtual servers with new SSL certificates,
+>restarted apache and got a=
+ failure to load=2E
+>
+>Here is a diagnostic:
+>
+> systemctl  status apache2=
+=2Eservice
+>=E2=97=8F apache2=2Eservice - The Apache Webserver
+>Loaded: loa=
+ded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/apache2=2Eservice; enabled;
+>vendor preset: di=
+sabled)
+>Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2020-07-10 14:51:00 P=
+DT;
+>19s ago
+>Process: 11801 ExecStart=3D/usr/sbin/start_apache2 -DSYSTEMD =
+-DFOREGROUND
+>-k start (code=3Dexited, status=3D1/FAILURE)
+> Main PID: 1180=
+1 (code=3Dexited, status=3D1/FAILURE)
+>
+>Jul 10 14:51:00 server systemd[1]:=
+ Starting The Apache Webserver=2E=2E=2E
+>Jul 10 14:51:00 server systemd[1]:=
+ apache2=2Eservice: Main process
+>exited, code=3Dexited, status=3D1/FAILURE=
+
+>Jul 10 14:51:00 server systemd[1]: Failed to start The Apache
+>Webserver=
+=2E
+>Jul 10 14:51:00 server systemd[1]: apache2=2Eservice: Unit entered fai=
+led
+>state=2E
+>Jul 10 14:51:00 server systemd[1]: apache2=2Eservice: Failed=
+ with result
+>'exit-code'=2E
+>
+>Any suggestions?
+>
+>Jack
+
+------YTXGAYTYB8QA1WYCFG8KZERNC4JND4
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+ charset=utf-8
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+
+<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=
+=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; zoom: 0%;" class=
+=3D""><div dir=3D"auto">Have you checked the apache error logs?</div>
+<div =
+class=3D"gmail_quote" >En 10 jul=2E 2020, en 23:54, "Jack M=2E Nilles" &lt;=
+<a href=3D"mailto:jnilles@jala=2Ecom" target=3D"_blank">jnilles@jala=2Ecom<=
+/a>&gt; escribi=C3=B3:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0p=
+t 0pt 0pt 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left:=
+ 1ex;">
+I recently updated two virtual servers with new SSL certificates, r=
+estarted apache and got a failure to load=2E<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">=
+</div><div class=3D"">Here is a diagnostic:</div><div class=3D""><br class=
+=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal=
+; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: Courier; color: rgb(25=
+5, 238, 149); background-color: rgb(21, 102, 47);" class=3D""><span style=
+=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D"">&nbsp;systemctl=
+&nbsp; status apache2=2Eservice</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font=
+-stretch: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: Courie=
+r; color: rgb(255, 238, 149); background-color: rgb(21, 102, 47);" class=3D=
+""><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #6100=
+01" class=3D""><b class=3D"">=E2=97=8F</b></span><span style=3D"font-varian=
+t-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D""> apache2=2Eservice - The Apach=
+e Webserver</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; fo=
+nt-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: Courier; color: rgb(255, 2=
+38, 149); background-color: rgb(21, 102, 47);" class=3D""><span style=3D"fo=
+nt-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp; Loaded: =
+loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/apache2=2Eservice; enabled; vendor preset: =
+disabled)</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font=
+-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: Courier; color: rgb(255, 238=
+, 149); background-color: rgb(21, 102, 47);" class=3D""><span style=3D"font=
+-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp; Active: </=
+span><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #61=
+0001" class=3D""><b class=3D"">failed</b></span><span style=3D"font-variant=
+-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D""> (Result: exit-code) since Fri =
+2020-07-10 14:51:00 PDT; 19s ago</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; fon=
+t-stretch: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: Couri=
+er; color: rgb(255, 238, 149); background-color: rgb(21, 102, 47);" class=
+=3D""><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D"=
+">&nbsp; Process: 11801 ExecStart=3D/usr/sbin/start_apache2 -DSYSTEMD -DFOR=
+EGROUND -k start </span><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-li=
+gatures; color: #610001" class=3D""><b class=3D"">(code=3Dexited, status=3D=
+1/FAILURE)</b></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal;=
+ font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: Courier; color: rgb(255=
+, 238, 149); background-color: rgb(21, 102, 47);" class=3D""><span style=3D=
+"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D"">&nbsp;Main PID: 11=
+801 (code=3Dexited, status=3D1/FAILURE)</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0=
+px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family=
+: Courier; color: rgb(255, 238, 149); background-color: rgb(21, 102, 47); m=
+in-height: 14px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-comm=
+on-ligatures" class=3D""></span><br class=3D""></div><div style=3D"margin: =
+0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-famil=
+y: Courier; color: rgb(255, 238, 149); background-color: rgb(21, 102, 47);"=
+ class=3D""><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" cla=
+ss=3D"">Jul 10 14:51:00 server systemd[1]: Starting The Apache Webserver=2E=
+=2E=2E</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-si=
+ze: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: Courier; color: rgb(253, 161, 4=
+6); background-color: rgb(21, 102, 47);" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-var=
+iant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #ffee95" class=3D"">Jul 10 14:5=
+1:00 server systemd[1]: </span><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-co=
+mmon-ligatures" class=3D""><b class=3D"">apache2=2Eservice: Main process ex=
+ited, code=3Dexited, status=3D1/FAILURE</b></span></div><div style=3D"margi=
+n: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-fa=
+mily: Courier; color: rgb(97, 0, 1); background-color: rgb(21, 102, 47);" c=
+lass=3D""><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color=
+: #ffee95" class=3D"">Jul 10 14:51:00 server systemd[1]: </span><span style=
+=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D""><b class=3D"">F=
+ailed to start The Apache Webserver=2E</b></span></div><div style=3D"margin=
+: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-fam=
+ily: Courier; color: rgb(253, 161, 46); background-color: rgb(21, 102, 47);=
+" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; co=
+lor: #ffee95" class=3D"">Jul 10 14:51:00 server systemd[1]: </span><span st=
+yle=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D""><b class=3D"=
+">apache2=2Eservice: Unit entered failed state=2E</b></span></div><div styl=
+e=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: norma=
+l; font-family: Courier; color: rgb(253, 161, 46); background-color: rgb(21=
+, 102, 47);" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-li=
+gatures; color: #ffee95" class=3D"">Jul 10 14:51:00 server systemd[1]: </sp=
+an><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D""><=
+b class=3D"">apache2=2Eservice: Failed with result 'exit-code'=2E</b></span=
+></div>
+<br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Any suggestions?</div><div cla=
+ss=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Jack</div></blockquote></div><=
+/body></html>
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+Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Failure to start apache2 after SSL cert update.
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+The apache error logs all quit at the point just before I restarted it. =
+User and group permissions for the SSL files are all root, as before.
+
+Jack
+
+> On 10 Jul 2020, at 15:00, Antony Stone =
+<An...@apache.open.source.it> wrote:
+>=20
+> On Friday 10 July 2020 at 23:54:05, Jack M. Nilles wrote:
+>=20
+>> I recently updated two virtual servers with new SSL certificates, =
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+>> apache and got a failure to load.
+>>=20
+>> Here is a diagnostic:
+>=20
+> Never mind what systemd tells you - what's in your apache log files?
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+> Also, have you checked the ownership & permissions of the new =
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+From: Holger Schramm <li...@schramm.by>
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+Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Checking if MPM is working
+
+Am 10.07.20 um 18:41 schrieb Mahmood Naderan:
+> The server is Ubuntu 18.04 and I installed that via apt. The apachectl 
+> command says it is using MPM.
+[...]
+>     Server MPM: prefork
+
+you use prefork.
+
+>>Did you see this syntax error?
+> 
+> Regarding that error, the following line in not commented
+> 
+> DefaultRuntimeDir ${APACHE_RUN_DIR} >
+> I don't remember that I have intentionally uncommentted that. What is 
+> the default setting then?
+
+i am under debian and have no ubuntu near by me. in debian there is a 
+file envvars. search for it.
+
+in this file there is a line:
+
+export APACHE_RUN_DIR=/var/run/apache2$SUFFIX
+
+check if the dir exists.
+
+
+Kind regards,
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+Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Failure to start apache2 after SSL cert update.
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+Am 11.07.20 um 00:32 schrieb Jack M. Nilles:
+> The apache error logs all quit at the point just before I restarted it. User and group permissions for the SSL files are all root, as before.
+> 
+> Jack
+
+have you checked the files? sometime there are missing newlines in cert 
+chains or other malformed things.
+
+you can try to set a higher log level on apache to get more details. it 
+should log sth in the error log.
+
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+
+Am 10.07.20 um 08:47 schrieb Mahmood Naderan:
+> Hello
+> 
+> With the following MPM settings
+> 
+> <IfModule mpm_prefork_module>
+>          ServerLimit           500
+>          StartServers               5
+>          MinSpareServers           5
+>          MaxSpareServers          10
+>          MaxRequestWorkers         500
+>          MaxConnectionsPerChild   0
+> </IfModule>
+> 
+> 
+> 
+> I would like to know how can I reduce the occurrence of 503 (service 
+> unavailable) error? Should I increase ServerLimit only? Or 
+> MaxRequestWorkers? Or increasing one and decreasing the other?
+
+What says the error log on getting 503 errors? whats the purpose of the 
+server? high load server?
+
+-- 
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+1st change log level to debug; 2nd run " apachectl -t "  . This will =
+check whether you have bad syntax (often overlooked but just as =
+serious).
+
+Angel
+Scotland
+
+> On 11 Jul 2020, at 11:10, Holger Schramm <li...@schramm.by> wrote:
+>=20
+> Am 11.07.20 um 00:32 schrieb Jack M. Nilles:
+>> The apache error logs all quit at the point just before I restarted =
+it. User and group permissions for the SSL files are all root, as =
+before.
+>> Jack
+>=20
+> have you checked the files? sometime there are missing newlines in =
+cert chains or other malformed things.
+>=20
+> you can try to set a higher log level on apache to get more details. =
+it should log sth in the error log.
+>=20
+> --
+> ~Holger
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+change log level to debug; 2nd run "<span style=3D"font-family: =
+SourceCodePro-Regular; font-style: normal;" class=3D"">&nbsp;apachectl =
+-t </span><span style=3D"font-style: normal;" class=3D"">" &nbsp;. This =
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+just as serious).<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
+class=3D"">Angel</div><div class=3D"">Scotland<br class=3D""><div><br =
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+Jul 2020, at 11:10, Holger Schramm &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lists@schramm.by"=
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+type=3D"cite" class=3D"">The apache error logs all quit at the point =
+just before I restarted it. User and group permissions for the SSL files =
+are all root, as before.<br class=3D"">Jack<br class=3D""></blockquote><br=
+ class=3D"">have you checked the files? sometime there are missing =
+newlines in cert chains or other malformed things.<br class=3D""><br =
+class=3D"">you can try to set a higher log level on apache to get more =
+details. it should log sth in the error log.<br class=3D""><br =
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+On 7/11/2020 6:10 AM, Holger Schramm wrote:
+> Am 11.07.20 um 00:32 schrieb Jack M. Nilles:
+>> The apache error logs all quit at the point just before I restarted=20
+>> it. User and group permissions for the SSL files are all root, as=20
+>> before.
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+>> Jack
+>
+> have you checked the files? sometime there are missing newlines in=20
+> cert chains or other malformed things.
+>
+> you can try to set a higher log level on apache to get more details.=20
+> it should log sth in the error log.
+
+There are various utilities to read private/public key files. For=20
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+Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Failure to start apache2 after SSL cert update.
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+If I use: openssl x509 -noout -text -in WWW.SITENAME.COM.crt
+
+I get a complete readout of the cert file with no obvious errors. The =
+problem seems to be that apache even fails to start so i'll try the =
+debug level next.
+
+
+
+
+
+> On 11 Jul 2020, at 5:30, Jim Albert <ji...@netrition.com> wrote:
+>=20
+> On 7/11/2020 6:10 AM, Holger Schramm wrote:
+>> Am 11.07.20 um 00:32 schrieb Jack M. Nilles:
+>>> The apache error logs all quit at the point just before I restarted =
+it. User and group permissions for the SSL files are all root, as =
+before.
+>>>=20
+>>> Jack
+>>=20
+>> have you checked the files? sometime there are missing newlines in =
+cert chains or other malformed things.
+>>=20
+>> you can try to set a higher log level on apache to get more details. =
+it should log sth in the error log.
+>=20
+> There are various utilities to read private/public key files. For =
+example, openssl on UNIX. I believe certutil for Windows.
+> If those utilities can read your key files then they should be valid =
+format.
+>=20
+> Jim
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+charset=3Dus-ascii"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
+-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">If =
+I use:&nbsp;<span style=3D"color: rgb(119, 97, 0); font-family: Courier; =
+font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(187, 255, 220);" class=3D"">openssl=
+ x509 -noout -text -in <a href=3D"http://WWW.SITENAME.COM.crt" =
+class=3D"">WWW.SITENAME.COM.crt</a></span><div class=3D""><br =
+class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I get a complete readout of the cert =
+file with no obvious errors. The problem seems to be that apache even =
+fails to start so i'll try the debug level next.<br class=3D""><div =
+class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><font =
+color=3D"#776100" face=3D"Courier" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: =
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+rgb(119, 97, 0); font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(187, 255, 220);" =
+class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></font><div><br class=3D""><blockquote =
+type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 11 Jul 2020, at 5:30, Jim =
+Albert &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jim@netrition.com" =
+class=3D"">jim@netrition.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
+class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">On =
+7/11/2020 6:10 AM, Holger Schramm wrote:<br class=3D""><blockquote =
+type=3D"cite" class=3D"">Am 11.07.20 um 00:32 schrieb Jack M. Nilles:<br =
+class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">The apache error logs =
+all quit at the point just before I restarted it. User and group =
+permissions for the SSL files are all root, as before.<br class=3D""><br =
+class=3D"">Jack<br class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">have you =
+checked the files? sometime there are missing newlines in cert chains or =
+other malformed things.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">you can try to set =
+a higher log level on apache to get more details. it should log sth in =
+the error log.<br class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">There are =
+various utilities to read private/public key files. For example, openssl =
+on UNIX. I believe certutil for Windows.<br class=3D"">If those =
+utilities can read your key files then they should be valid format.<br =
+class=3D""><br class=3D"">Jim<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
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+References: <68...@jala.com>
+ <20...@apache.open.source.it>
+ <91...@jala.com>
+ <c4...@schramm.by>
+ <13...@netrition.com>
+ <1D...@jala.com>
+To: users@httpd.apache.org
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+Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Failure to start apache2 after SSL cert update.
+
+--Apple-Mail=_46B1A33C-3CDC-40B1-94AC-83C54B4FD994
+Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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+
+The /var/log/apache2/error_log simply lists a set of Configuration =
+Failed lines.=20
+
+apachectl configtest produces Syntax OK
+
+What file should I change to set the debug level?
+
+> On 11 Jul 2020, at 7:08, Jack M. Nilles <jn...@jala.com> wrote:
+>=20
+> If I use: openssl x509 -noout -text -in WWW.SITENAME.COM.crt =
+<http://www.sitename.com.crt/>
+>=20
+> I get a complete readout of the cert file with no obvious errors. The =
+problem seems to be that apache even fails to start so i'll try the =
+debug level next.
+>=20
+>=20
+>=20
+>=20
+>=20
+>> On 11 Jul 2020, at 5:30, Jim Albert <jim@netrition.com =
+<ma...@netrition.com>> wrote:
+>>=20
+>> On 7/11/2020 6:10 AM, Holger Schramm wrote:
+>>> Am 11.07.20 um 00:32 schrieb Jack M. Nilles:
+>>>> The apache error logs all quit at the point just before I restarted =
+it. User and group permissions for the SSL files are all root, as =
+before.
+>>>>=20
+>>>> Jack
+>>>=20
+>>> have you checked the files? sometime there are missing newlines in =
+cert chains or other malformed things.
+>>>=20
+>>> you can try to set a higher log level on apache to get more details. =
+it should log sth in the error log.
+>>=20
+>> There are various utilities to read private/public key files. For =
+example, openssl on UNIX. I believe certutil for Windows.
+>> If those utilities can read your key files then they should be valid =
+format.
+>>=20
+>> Jim
+>>=20
+>>=20
+>>=20
+>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
+>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@httpd.apache.org =
+<ma...@httpd.apache.org>
+>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@httpd.apache.org =
+<ma...@httpd.apache.org>
+>>=20
+>=20
+
+
+--Apple-Mail=_46B1A33C-3CDC-40B1-94AC-83C54B4FD994
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+
+<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
+charset=3Dus-ascii"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
+-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">The =
+/var/log/apache2/error_log simply lists a set of Configuration Failed =
+lines.&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">apachectl=
+ configtest produces Syntax OK</div><div class=3D""><br =
+class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">What file should I change to set the =
+debug level?<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
+class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 11 Jul 2020, at 7:08, Jack M. Nilles =
+&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jnilles@jala.com" =
+class=3D"">jnilles@jala.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
+class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
+http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii" =
+class=3D""><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: =
+space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">If I use:&nbsp;<span =
+style=3D"color: rgb(119, 97, 0); font-family: Courier; font-size: 12px; =
+background-color: rgb(187, 255, 220);" class=3D"">openssl x509 -noout =
+-text -in <a href=3D"http://www.sitename.com.crt/" =
+class=3D"">WWW.SITENAME.COM.crt</a></span><div class=3D""><br =
+class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I get a complete readout of the cert =
+file with no obvious errors. The problem seems to be that apache even =
+fails to start so i'll try the debug level next.<br class=3D""><div =
+class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><font =
+color=3D"#776100" face=3D"Courier" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: =
+rgb(119, 97, 0); font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(187, 255, 220);" =
+class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></font></div><div class=3D""><font =
+color=3D"#776100" face=3D"Courier" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: =
+rgb(119, 97, 0); font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(187, 255, 220);" =
+class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></font><div class=3D""><font =
+color=3D"#776100" face=3D"Courier" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: =
+rgb(119, 97, 0); font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(187, 255, 220);" =
+class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></font><div class=3D""><br =
+class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 11 =
+Jul 2020, at 5:30, Jim Albert &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jim@netrition.com" =
+class=3D"">jim@netrition.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
+class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">On =
+7/11/2020 6:10 AM, Holger Schramm wrote:<br class=3D""><blockquote =
+type=3D"cite" class=3D"">Am 11.07.20 um 00:32 schrieb Jack M. Nilles:<br =
+class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">The apache error logs =
+all quit at the point just before I restarted it. User and group =
+permissions for the SSL files are all root, as before.<br class=3D""><br =
+class=3D"">Jack<br class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">have you =
+checked the files? sometime there are missing newlines in cert chains or =
+other malformed things.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">you can try to set =
+a higher log level on apache to get more details. it should log sth in =
+the error log.<br class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">There are =
+various utilities to read private/public key files. For example, openssl =
+on UNIX. I believe certutil for Windows.<br class=3D"">If those =
+utilities can read your key files then they should be valid format.<br =
+class=3D""><br class=3D"">Jim<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
+class=3D""><br =
+class=3D"">---------------------------------------------------------------=
+------<br class=3D"">To unsubscribe, <a =
+href=3D"mailto:users-unsubscribe@httpd.apache.org" class=3D"">e-mail: =
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+class=3D"">e-mail: users-help@httpd.apache.org</a><br class=3D""><br =
+class=3D""></div></div></blockquote></div><br =
+class=3D""></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br =
+class=3D""></div></body></html>=
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+ <91...@jala.com>
+ <c4...@schramm.by>
+ <13...@netrition.com>
+ <1D...@jala.com>
+ <45...@jala.com>
+To: users@httpd.apache.org
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+Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Failure to start apache2 after SSL cert update.
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+
+I set the error level to debug in vhosts.conf, tried a restart and got =
+this from yesterday; nothing from today.
+
+[Fri Jul 10 09:47:37.657510 2020] [mpm_prefork:notice] [pid 7681] =
+AH00173: SIGHUP received.  Attempting to restart
+[Fri Jul 10 09:47:37.899186 2020] [ssl:warn] [pid 7681] AH01873: Init: =
+Session Cache is not configured [hint: SSLSessionCache]
+[Fri Jul 10 09:47:37.909108 2020] [:emerg] [pid 7681] AH00020: =
+Configuration Failed, exiting
+AH00016: Configuration Failed
+
+
+> On 11 Jul 2020, at 7:52, Jack M. Nilles <jn...@jala.com> wrote:
+>=20
+> The /var/log/apache2/error_log simply lists a set of Configuration =
+Failed lines.=20
+>=20
+> apachectl configtest produces Syntax OK
+>=20
+> What file should I change to set the debug level?
+>=20
+>> On 11 Jul 2020, at 7:08, Jack M. Nilles <jnilles@jala.com =
+<ma...@jala.com>> wrote:
+>>=20
+>> If I use: openssl x509 -noout -text -in WWW.SITENAME.COM.crt =
+<http://www.sitename.com.crt/>
+>>=20
+>> I get a complete readout of the cert file with no obvious errors. The =
+problem seems to be that apache even fails to start so i'll try the =
+debug level next.
+>>=20
+>>=20
+>>=20
+>>=20
+>>=20
+>>> On 11 Jul 2020, at 5:30, Jim Albert <jim@netrition.com =
+<ma...@netrition.com>> wrote:
+>>>=20
+>>> On 7/11/2020 6:10 AM, Holger Schramm wrote:
+>>>> Am 11.07.20 um 00:32 schrieb Jack M. Nilles:
+>>>>> The apache error logs all quit at the point just before I =
+restarted it. User and group permissions for the SSL files are all root, =
+as before.
+>>>>>=20
+>>>>> Jack
+>>>>=20
+>>>> have you checked the files? sometime there are missing newlines in =
+cert chains or other malformed things.
+>>>>=20
+>>>> you can try to set a higher log level on apache to get more =
+details. it should log sth in the error log.
+>>>=20
+>>> There are various utilities to read private/public key files. For =
+example, openssl on UNIX. I believe certutil for Windows.
+>>> If those utilities can read your key files then they should be valid =
+format.
+>>>=20
+>>> Jim
+>>>=20
+>>>=20
+>>>=20
+>>> =
+---------------------------------------------------------------------
+>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@httpd.apache.org =
+<ma...@httpd.apache.org>
+>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@httpd.apache.org =
+<ma...@httpd.apache.org>
+>>>=20
+>>=20
+>=20
+
+
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+<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
+charset=3Dus-ascii"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
+-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">I =
+set the error level to debug in vhosts.conf, tried a restart and got =
+this from yesterday; nothing from today.<div class=3D""><br =
+class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0px; =
+font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: =
+Courier; color: rgb(119, 97, 0); background-color: rgb(187, 255, 220);" =
+class=3D""><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" =
+class=3D"">[Fri Jul 10 09:47:37.657510 2020] [mpm_prefork:notice] [pid =
+7681] AH00173: SIGHUP received.&nbsp; Attempting to =
+restart</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; =
+font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: Courier; color: =
+rgb(119, 97, 0); background-color: rgb(187, 255, 220);" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D"">[Fri =
+Jul 10 09:47:37.899186 2020] [ssl:warn] [pid 7681] AH01873: Init: =
+Session Cache is not configured [hint: SSLSessionCache]</span></div><div =
+style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12px; =
+line-height: normal; font-family: Courier; color: rgb(119, 97, 0); =
+background-color: rgb(187, 255, 220);" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D"">[Fri =
+Jul 10 09:47:37.909108 2020] [:emerg] [pid 7681] AH00020: Configuration =
+Failed, exiting</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: =
+normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: Courier; =
+color: rgb(119, 97, 0); background-color: rgb(187, 255, 220);" =
+class=3D""><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" =
+class=3D"">AH00016: Configuration Failed</span></div><div class=3D""><span=
+ style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D""><br =
+class=3D""></span></div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
+class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 11 Jul 2020, at 7:52, Jack M. Nilles =
+&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jnilles@jala.com" =
+class=3D"">jnilles@jala.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
+class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
+http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii" =
+class=3D""><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: =
+space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">The =
+/var/log/apache2/error_log simply lists a set of Configuration Failed =
+lines.&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">apachectl=
+ configtest produces Syntax OK</div><div class=3D""><br =
+class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">What file should I change to set the =
+debug level?<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote =
+type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 11 Jul 2020, at 7:08, Jack =
+M. Nilles &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jnilles@jala.com" =
+class=3D"">jnilles@jala.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
+class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
+http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii" =
+class=3D""><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: =
+space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">If I use:&nbsp;<span =
+style=3D"color: rgb(119, 97, 0); font-family: Courier; font-size: 12px; =
+background-color: rgb(187, 255, 220);" class=3D"">openssl x509 -noout =
+-text -in <a href=3D"http://www.sitename.com.crt/" =
+class=3D"">WWW.SITENAME.COM.crt</a></span><div class=3D""><br =
+class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I get a complete readout of the cert =
+file with no obvious errors. The problem seems to be that apache even =
+fails to start so i'll try the debug level next.<br class=3D""><div =
+class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><font =
+color=3D"#776100" face=3D"Courier" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: =
+rgb(119, 97, 0); font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(187, 255, 220);" =
+class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></font></div><div class=3D""><font =
+color=3D"#776100" face=3D"Courier" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: =
+rgb(119, 97, 0); font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(187, 255, 220);" =
+class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></font><div class=3D""><font =
+color=3D"#776100" face=3D"Courier" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: =
+rgb(119, 97, 0); font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(187, 255, 220);" =
+class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></font><div class=3D""><br =
+class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 11 =
+Jul 2020, at 5:30, Jim Albert &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jim@netrition.com" =
+class=3D"">jim@netrition.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
+class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">On =
+7/11/2020 6:10 AM, Holger Schramm wrote:<br class=3D""><blockquote =
+type=3D"cite" class=3D"">Am 11.07.20 um 00:32 schrieb Jack M. Nilles:<br =
+class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">The apache error logs =
+all quit at the point just before I restarted it. User and group =
+permissions for the SSL files are all root, as before.<br class=3D""><br =
+class=3D"">Jack<br class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">have you =
+checked the files? sometime there are missing newlines in cert chains or =
+other malformed things.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">you can try to set =
+a higher log level on apache to get more details. it should log sth in =
+the error log.<br class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">There are =
+various utilities to read private/public key files. For example, openssl =
+on UNIX. I believe certutil for Windows.<br class=3D"">If those =
+utilities can read your key files then they should be valid format.<br =
+class=3D""><br class=3D"">Jim<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
+class=3D""><br =
+class=3D"">---------------------------------------------------------------=
+------<br class=3D"">To unsubscribe, <a =
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+Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Failure to start apache2 after SSL cert update.
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+After more searching I find that loadmodule.conf calls for loading the =
+mod_socache_shmcb.so module during pre-fork. However, the =
+ssl-global.conf file calls for mod_socache_shmcb.c. Is the source file =
+call rather than the executable that's causing the misconfiguration =
+message? Should I just comment out the <IfModule . . .> and </IfModule> =
+lines in ssl-global.conf, leaving the SSLSessioncache line as is?
+
+And why did this glitch just happen recently?
+
+> On 11 Jul 2020, at 10:34, Jack M. Nilles <jn...@jala.com> wrote:
+>=20
+> I set the error level to debug in vhosts.conf, tried a restart and got =
+this from yesterday; nothing from today.
+>=20
+> [Fri Jul 10 09:47:37.657510 2020] [mpm_prefork:notice] [pid 7681] =
+AH00173: SIGHUP received.  Attempting to restart
+> [Fri Jul 10 09:47:37.899186 2020] [ssl:warn] [pid 7681] AH01873: Init: =
+Session Cache is not configured [hint: SSLSessionCache]
+> [Fri Jul 10 09:47:37.909108 2020] [:emerg] [pid 7681] AH00020: =
+Configuration Failed, exiting
+> AH00016: Configuration Failed
+>=20
+>=20
+>> On 11 Jul 2020, at 7:52, Jack M. Nilles <jnilles@jala.com =
+<ma...@jala.com>> wrote:
+>>=20
+>> The /var/log/apache2/error_log simply lists a set of Configuration =
+Failed lines.=20
+>>=20
+>> apachectl configtest produces Syntax OK
+>>=20
+>> What file should I change to set the debug level?
+>>=20
+>>> On 11 Jul 2020, at 7:08, Jack M. Nilles <jnilles@jala.com =
+<ma...@jala.com>> wrote:
+>>>=20
+>>> If I use: openssl x509 -noout -text -in WWW.SITENAME.COM.crt =
+<http://www.sitename.com.crt/>
+>>>=20
+>>> I get a complete readout of the cert file with no obvious errors. =
+The problem seems to be that apache even fails to start so i'll try the =
+debug level next.
+>>>=20
+>>>=20
+>>>=20
+>>>=20
+>>>=20
+>>>> On 11 Jul 2020, at 5:30, Jim Albert <jim@netrition.com =
+<ma...@netrition.com>> wrote:
+>>>>=20
+>>>> On 7/11/2020 6:10 AM, Holger Schramm wrote:
+>>>>> Am 11.07.20 um 00:32 schrieb Jack M. Nilles:
+>>>>>> The apache error logs all quit at the point just before I =
+restarted it. User and group permissions for the SSL files are all root, =
+as before.
+>>>>>>=20
+>>>>>> Jack
+>>>>>=20
+>>>>> have you checked the files? sometime there are missing newlines in =
+cert chains or other malformed things.
+>>>>>=20
+>>>>> you can try to set a higher log level on apache to get more =
+details. it should log sth in the error log.
+>>>>=20
+>>>> There are various utilities to read private/public key files. For =
+example, openssl on UNIX. I believe certutil for Windows.
+>>>> If those utilities can read your key files then they should be =
+valid format.
+>>>>=20
+>>>> Jim
+>>>>=20
+>>>>=20
+>>>>=20
+>>>> =
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+<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
+charset=3Dus-ascii"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
+-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">After=
+ more searching I find that loadmodule.conf calls for loading the =
+mod_socache_shmcb.so module during pre-fork. However, the =
+ssl-global.conf file calls for mod_socache_shmcb.c. Is the source file =
+call rather than the executable that's causing the misconfiguration =
+message? Should I just comment out the &lt;IfModule . . .&gt; and =
+&lt;/IfModule&gt; lines in ssl-global.conf, leaving the SSLSessioncache =
+line as is?<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">And why =
+did this glitch just happen recently?<br class=3D""><div><br =
+class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 11 =
+Jul 2020, at 10:34, Jack M. Nilles &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jnilles@jala.com"=
+ class=3D"">jnilles@jala.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
+class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
+http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii" =
+class=3D""><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: =
+space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">I set the error level =
+to debug in vhosts.conf, tried a restart and got this from yesterday; =
+nothing from today.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
+class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: =
+12px; line-height: normal; font-family: Courier; color: rgb(119, 97, 0); =
+background-color: rgb(187, 255, 220);" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D"">[Fri =
+Jul 10 09:47:37.657510 2020] [mpm_prefork:notice] [pid 7681] AH00173: =
+SIGHUP received.&nbsp; Attempting to restart</span></div><div =
+style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12px; =
+line-height: normal; font-family: Courier; color: rgb(119, 97, 0); =
+background-color: rgb(187, 255, 220);" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D"">[Fri =
+Jul 10 09:47:37.899186 2020] [ssl:warn] [pid 7681] AH01873: Init: =
+Session Cache is not configured [hint: SSLSessionCache]</span></div><div =
+style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12px; =
+line-height: normal; font-family: Courier; color: rgb(119, 97, 0); =
+background-color: rgb(187, 255, 220);" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D"">[Fri =
+Jul 10 09:47:37.909108 2020] [:emerg] [pid 7681] AH00020: Configuration =
+Failed, exiting</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: =
+normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: Courier; =
+color: rgb(119, 97, 0); background-color: rgb(187, 255, 220);" =
+class=3D""><span style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" =
+class=3D"">AH00016: Configuration Failed</span></div><div class=3D""><span=
+ style=3D"font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=3D""><br =
+class=3D""></span></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote =
+type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 11 Jul 2020, at 7:52, Jack =
+M. Nilles &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jnilles@jala.com" =
+class=3D"">jnilles@jala.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
+class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
+http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii" =
+class=3D""><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: =
+space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">The =
+/var/log/apache2/error_log simply lists a set of Configuration Failed =
+lines.&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">apachectl=
+ configtest produces Syntax OK</div><div class=3D""><br =
+class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">What file should I change to set the =
+debug level?<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote =
+type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 11 Jul 2020, at 7:08, Jack =
+M. Nilles &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jnilles@jala.com" =
+class=3D"">jnilles@jala.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
+class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
+http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii" =
+class=3D""><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: =
+space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">If I use:&nbsp;<span =
+style=3D"color: rgb(119, 97, 0); font-family: Courier; font-size: 12px; =
+background-color: rgb(187, 255, 220);" class=3D"">openssl x509 -noout =
+-text -in <a href=3D"http://www.sitename.com.crt/" =
+class=3D"">WWW.SITENAME.COM.crt</a></span><div class=3D""><br =
+class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I get a complete readout of the cert =
+file with no obvious errors. The problem seems to be that apache even =
+fails to start so i'll try the debug level next.<br class=3D""><div =
+class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><font =
+color=3D"#776100" face=3D"Courier" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: =
+rgb(119, 97, 0); font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(187, 255, 220);" =
+class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></font></div><div class=3D""><font =
+color=3D"#776100" face=3D"Courier" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: =
+rgb(119, 97, 0); font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(187, 255, 220);" =
+class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></font><div class=3D""><font =
+color=3D"#776100" face=3D"Courier" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: =
+rgb(119, 97, 0); font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(187, 255, 220);" =
+class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></font><div class=3D""><br =
+class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 11 =
+Jul 2020, at 5:30, Jim Albert &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jim@netrition.com" =
+class=3D"">jim@netrition.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
+class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">On =
+7/11/2020 6:10 AM, Holger Schramm wrote:<br class=3D""><blockquote =
+type=3D"cite" class=3D"">Am 11.07.20 um 00:32 schrieb Jack M. Nilles:<br =
+class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">The apache error logs =
+all quit at the point just before I restarted it. User and group =
+permissions for the SSL files are all root, as before.<br class=3D""><br =
+class=3D"">Jack<br class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">have you =
+checked the files? sometime there are missing newlines in cert chains or =
+other malformed things.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">you can try to set =
+a higher log level on apache to get more details. it should log sth in =
+the error log.<br class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">There are =
+various utilities to read private/public key files. For example, openssl =
+on UNIX. I believe certutil for Windows.<br class=3D"">If those =
+utilities can read your key files then they should be valid format.<br =
+class=3D""><br class=3D"">Jim<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
+class=3D""><br =
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+Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Failure to start apache2 after SSL cert update.
+
+Jack,
+
+are you sure, the certificate and the key match up?
+You can do this by looking at the modulus, it must be the same.
+In OpenSSL this looks like
+  'openssl x509 -in [YOUR_CERT] -noout -modulus' respectively
+  'openssl rsa -in [YOUR_KEY] -noout -modulus'.
+You may pipe this through 'openssl md5' to get the modulus md5 sum.
+
+Martin
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+Thanks, Martin,
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+Great advice! I have two virtual hosts. The certificate and key match on =
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+Subject: [users@httpd] mod_md: is a restart always require for auto updates?
+
+I'm running Apache 2.4.43 and just added my first managed virtual host
+with mod_md and all worked fine. Now I want to move all my other
+virtual host to the same process but I have a few questions first:
+
+1. For an auto renewal for the current managed domain, will I have to
+manually restart each time?
+
+2. After I follow the recommendations for the move of the other
+domains, will they require an initial manual restart?
+
+3. According to my reading of the docs, using OCSP via mod_md looks to
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+Subject: [users@httpd] Default 403 response when no matching vhost
+
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+
+Figure I would ask this here for the most graceful answer before making up
+my own.  When running Apache for many vhosts (websites or acting as a
+reverse proxy), is there a way to make the default site (no matching vhost)
+return a 403 or 400 bad request similar to how Akamai does when no matching
+vhost is found. Currently I have a default site that just returns the
+standard "It works" 200 ok when no match is found..
+
+SNIP:
+dig www.microsoft.com +short
+23.66.54.52 (Akamai)
+
+curl -kv 23.66.54.52
+< HTTP/1.0 400 Bad Request
+< Server: AkamaiGHost
+
+thx in advance
+
+Danny
+
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+
+<div dir=3D"ltr">Figure I would ask this here for the most graceful answer =
+before making up my own.=C2=A0 When running Apache for many vhosts (website=
+s or acting as a reverse proxy), is there a way to make the default site (n=
+o matching vhost) return a 403 or 400 bad request similar to how Akamai doe=
+s when no matching vhost is found. Currently I have a default site that jus=
+t returns the standard &quot;It works&quot; 200 ok when no match is found..=
+<div><br></div><div>SNIP:=C2=A0</div><div>dig <a href=3D"http://www.microso=
+ft.com">www.microsoft.com</a> +short<br>23.66.54.52 (Akamai)<br></div><div>=
+<br></div><div>curl -kv 23.66.54.52<br></div><div>&lt; HTTP/1.0 400 Bad Req=
+uest<br>&lt; Server: AkamaiGHost<br></div><div><br></div><div>thx in advanc=
+e</div><div><br></div><div>Danny=C2=A0</div></div>
+
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+Subject: [users@httpd] mod_proxyhealthcheck
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+
+Good afternoon everyone, I have a quick question. I am implementing
+mod_proxyhealthcheck my proxy ajp config has several load balancers
+pointing towards different apps on backend servers
+how do I setup mod_proxyhc to look at each lb uri individually using the
+same settings for failure and recovery
+
+
+Will something like this work ProxyHCExpr ok200 {%{REQUEST_STATUS} =~
+/^[200]/} ProxyHCTemplate tomcat_health_check hcinterval=5 hcpasses=1
+hcfails=3 hcmethod=HEAD hcuri=/load-balancer hcexpr=ok200 <Proxy
+balancer://tomcat_app_tier>   BalancerMember https://app01:8443 lbset=0
+hctemplate=tomcat_health_check   BalancerMember https://app02:8443 lbset=1
+hctemplate=tomcat_health_check   ProxySet
+stickysession=JSESSIONID|jsessionid lbmethod=byrequests </Proxy> <Proxy
+balancer://tomcat_app_tier_six>   BalancerMember https://app01:8443 lbset=0
+hctemplate=tomcat_health_check   BalancerMember https://app02:8443 lbset=1
+hctemplate=tomcat_health_check   ProxySet
+stickysession=JSESSIONID|jsessionid lbmethod=byrequests </Proxy>
+calling the same template for the different lbbalencers?
+and it wont get confused or do i have to create separate templates for each
+calling them individually and will that work or will modhealthcheck not
+accept this configuration?
+
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+Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
+Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
+
+<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-item" style=3D"overfl=
+ow:hidden;color:rgb(34,35,31);font-family:&quot;Source Sans Pro&quot;,Helve=
+tica,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px"><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-mess=
+age gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message--modern gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message--=
+authorfirst gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message-privmsg gmail-kiwi-messagelist-m=
+essage--own" style=3D"padding:15px 10px;border-left:7px solid transparent;o=
+verflow:hidden;line-height:1.5em;margin:0px;display:flex;border-top-width:1=
+px;border-top-style:solid;background-color:rgb(247,247,247)"><div class=3D"=
+gmail-kiwi-messagelist-modern-right" style=3D"margin-left:5px;padding-top:0=
+px;width:1369.86px"><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-body" style=3D"min=
+-height:0px;line-height:1.5em;font-size:1.05em;margin:0px;padding:0px;white=
+-space:pre-wrap">Good afternoon everyone, <span style=3D"font-size:1.05em">=
+I have a quick question. </span><span style=3D"font-size:1.05em">I am imple=
+menting mod_proxyhealthcheck </span><span style=3D"font-size:1.05em">my pro=
+xy ajp config has several </span>load balancers<span style=3D"font-size:1.0=
+5em"> pointing towards </span>different<span style=3D"font-size:1.05em"> ap=
+ps on backend servers </span></div></div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail-ki=
+wi-messagelist-item" style=3D"overflow:hidden;color:rgb(34,35,31);font-fami=
+ly:&quot;Source Sans Pro&quot;,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px"><div =
+class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message--mod=
+ern gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message--authorrepeat gmail-kiwi-messagelist-mes=
+sage-privmsg gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message--own" style=3D"padding:0px 10px=
+ 15px;border-left:7px solid transparent;overflow:hidden;line-height:1.5em;m=
+argin:0px;border-top:none;display:flex;background-color:rgb(247,247,247)"><=
+div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-modern-left" style=3D"display:flex;widt=
+h:50px"></div><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-modern-right" style=3D"m=
+argin-left:5px;padding-top:0px;width:1369.86px"><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-me=
+ssagelist-body" style=3D"min-height:0px;line-height:1.5em;font-size:1.05em;=
+margin:0px;padding:0px;white-space:pre-wrap">how do I setup mod_proxyhc to =
+look at each lb uri individually using the same settings for failure and re=
+covery</div><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-body" style=3D"min-height:=
+0px;line-height:1.5em;font-size:1.05em;margin:0px;padding:0px;white-space:p=
+re-wrap"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-body" style=3D"min-=
+height:0px;line-height:1.5em;font-size:1.05em;margin:0px;padding:0px;white-=
+space:pre-wrap"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-body" style=
+=3D"min-height:0px;line-height:1.5em;font-size:1.05em;margin:0px;padding:0p=
+x;white-space:pre-wrap">
+
+<div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-item" style=3D"overflow:hidden;font-si=
+ze:14.4px"><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message gmail-kiwi-messagel=
+ist-message--modern gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message--authorfirst gmail-kiwi-=
+messagelist-message-privmsg gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message--own" style=3D"p=
+adding:15px 10px;border-left:7px solid transparent;overflow:hidden;line-hei=
+ght:1.5em;margin:0px;display:flex;border-top-width:1px;border-top-style:sol=
+id"><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-modern-right" style=3D"margin-left=
+:5px;padding-top:0px;width:1369.86px"><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-=
+body" style=3D"min-height:0px;line-height:1.5em;font-size:1.05em;margin:0px=
+;padding:0px">Will something like this work ProxyHCExpr ok200 {%{REQUEST_ST=
+ATUS} =3D~ /^[200]/}
+ProxyHCTemplate tomcat_health_check hcinterval=3D5 hcpasses=3D1 hcfails=3D3=
+ hcmethod=3DHEAD hcuri=3D/load-balancer hcexpr=3Dok200
+&lt;Proxy balancer://tomcat_app_tier&gt;
+=C2=A0 BalancerMember <a href=3D"https://app01:8443">https://app01:8443</a>=
+ lbset=3D0 hctemplate=3Dtomcat_health_check
+=C2=A0 BalancerMember <a href=3D"https://app02:8443">https://app02:8443</a>=
+ lbset=3D1 hctemplate=3Dtomcat_health_check
+=C2=A0 ProxySet stickysession=3DJSESSIONID|jsessionid lbmethod=3Dbyrequests
+&lt;/Proxy&gt;
+
+&lt;Proxy balancer://tomcat_app_tier_six&gt;
+=C2=A0 BalancerMember <a href=3D"https://app01:8443">https://app01:8443</a>=
+ lbset=3D0 hctemplate=3Dtomcat_health_check
+=C2=A0 BalancerMember <a href=3D"https://app02:8443">https://app02:8443</a>=
+ lbset=3D1 hctemplate=3Dtomcat_health_check
+=C2=A0 ProxySet stickysession=3DJSESSIONID|jsessionid lbmethod=3Dbyrequests
+&lt;/Proxy&gt;</div></div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-=
+item" style=3D"overflow:hidden;font-size:14.4px"><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-m=
+essagelist-message gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message--modern gmail-kiwi-messag=
+elist-message--authorrepeat gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message-privmsg gmail-ki=
+wi-messagelist-message--own" style=3D"padding:0px 10px 15px;border-left:7px=
+ solid transparent;overflow:hidden;line-height:1.5em;margin:0px;border-top:=
+none;display:flex"><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-modern-left" style=
+=3D"display:flex;width:50px"></div><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-mod=
+ern-right" style=3D"margin-left:5px;padding-top:0px;width:1369.86px"><div c=
+lass=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-body" style=3D"min-height:0px;line-height:1.=
+5em;font-size:1.05em;margin:0px;padding:0px">calling the same template for =
+the different lbbalencers?</div></div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-=
+messagelist-item" style=3D"overflow:hidden;margin-bottom:5px;font-size:14.4=
+px"><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message gmail-kiwi-messagelist-mes=
+sage--modern gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message--authorrepeat gmail-kiwi-messag=
+elist-message-privmsg gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message--own" style=3D"padding=
+:0px 10px 15px;border-left:7px solid transparent;overflow:hidden;line-heigh=
+t:1.5em;margin:0px;border-top:none;display:flex"><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-m=
+essagelist-modern-left" style=3D"display:flex;width:50px"></div><div class=
+=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-modern-right" style=3D"margin-left:5px;padding-t=
+op:0px;width:1369.86px"><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-body" style=3D=
+"min-height:0px;line-height:1.5em;font-size:1.05em;margin:0px;padding:0px">=
+and it wont get confused or do i have to create separate templates for each=
+ calling them individually and will that work or will modhealthcheck not ac=
+cept this configuration?</div></div></div></div>
+
+</div></div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messagelist-item" style=3D=
+"overflow:hidden;color:rgb(34,35,31);font-family:&quot;Source Sans Pro&quot=
+;,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14.4px"><div class=3D"gmail-kiwi-messageli=
+st-message gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message--modern gmail-kiwi-messagelist-me=
+ssage--authorfirst gmail-kiwi-messagelist-message-privmsg gmail-kiwi-messag=
+elist-message--own" style=3D"padding:15px 10px;border-left:7px solid transp=
+arent;overflow:hidden;line-height:1.5em;margin:0px;display:flex;border-top-=
+width:1px;border-top-style:solid;background-color:rgb(247,247,247)"><div cl=
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+x;white-space:pre-wrap"></div></div></div></div></div>
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+Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Default 403 response when no matching vhost
+
+On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 1:02 PM Danny Mallory <dm...@gmail.com> wrote:
+>
+> Figure I would ask this here for the most graceful answer before making u=
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+
+You can use mod_asis which is pretty obscure, or RewriteRule ^ =3D
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+Subject: [users@httpd] TLS Client Hello not responded by mod_ssl
+
+Dear Apache enthusiasts ...
+
+My application is a very simple https-only apache (2.4.43) server with 
+mod_ssl (openssl 1.1.1g) in Linux (crux distribution 3.5).
+
+Using log levels up to trace8, I am unable to get anything useful past
+
+[...] [ssl:info] [...] [...] AH01964: Connection to child 64 established 
+(server admin-rachis.connotech-internal.com:443)
+
+The browser-client eventually times out with a "connected to ..." status 
+in the meantime. The openssl s_client utility supports the hypothesis 
+that the ServerHello preparation and/or transmission is blocked somehow 
+in the mod_ssl logic:
+
+openssl s_client -connect admin-rachis.connotech-internal.com:443 -debug
+
+I first get this ClientHello dump:
+
+CONNECTED(00000003)
+write to 0x969df0 [0x969e70] (307 bytes => 307 (0x133))
+0000 - 16 03 01 01 2e 01 00 01-2a 03 03 37 46 cb ff c9   ........*..7F...
+0010 - bc ae 33 6b 32 0f 51 e7-e3 9a 15 e6 67 1b 24 be   ..3k2.Q.....g.$.
+0020 - e8 ba e9 b1 5a 56 13 d7-bf 82 71 00 00 94 c0 30   ....ZV....q....0
+0030 - c0 2c c0 28 c0 24 c0 14-c0 0a 00 a3 00 9f 00 6b   .,.(.$.........k
+0040 - 00 6a 00 39 00 38 00 88-00 87 c0 32 c0 2e c0 2a   .j.9.8.....2...*
+0050 - c0 26 c0 0f c0 05 00 9d-00 3d 00 35 00 84 c0 2f   .&.......=.5.../
+0060 - c0 2b c0 27 c0 23 c0 13-c0 09 00 a2 00 9e 00 67   .+.'.#.........g
+0070 - 00 40 00 33 00 32 00 9a-00 99 00 45 00 44 c0 31   .@.3.2.....E.D.1
+0080 - c0 2d c0 29 c0 25 c0 0e-c0 04 00 9c 00 3c 00 2f   .-.).%.......<./
+0090 - 00 96 00 41 00 07 c0 11-c0 07 c0 0c c0 02 00 05   ...A............
+00a0 - 00 04 c0 12 c0 08 00 16-00 13 c0 0d c0 03 00 0a   ................
+00b0 - 00 15 00 12 00 09 00 14-00 11 00 08 00 06 00 03   ................
+00c0 - 00 ff 01 00 00 6d 00 0b-00 04 03 00 01 02 00 0a   .....m..........
+00d0 - 00 34 00 32 00 0e 00 0d-00 19 00 0b 00 0c 00 18   .4.2............
+00e0 - 00 09 00 0a 00 16 00 17-00 08 00 06 00 07 00 14   ................
+00f0 - 00 15 00 04 00 05 00 12-00 13 00 01 00 02 00 03   ................
+0100 - 00 0f 00 10 00 11 00 23-00 00 00 0d 00 20 00 1e   .......#..... ..
+0110 - 06 01 06 02 06 03 05 01-05 02 05 03 04 01 04 02   ................
+0120 - 04 03 03 01 03 02 03 03-02 01 02 02 02 03 00 0f   ................
+0130 - 00 01 01                                          ...
+
+and then nothing ... until I stop the httpd, then openssl s_client exits 
+after reporting an un-initialized SSL connection:
+
+read from 0x969df0 [0x96f3d0] (7 bytes => -1 (0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF))
+---
+no peer certificate available
+---
+No client certificate CA names sent
+---
+SSL handshake has read 0 bytes and written 307 bytes
+---
+New, (NONE), Cipher is (NONE)
+Secure Renegotiation IS NOT supported
+Compression: NONE
+Expansion: NONE
+---
+
+==================
+
+That's it for the difficulty I face. I am quite familiar with the TLS 
+concepts, I did not encounter any configuration where the mod_ssl logic 
+would complain about something wrong or noticeable in the ClientHello 
+message. I mean the suspected mod_ssl "freeze" is the systematic outcome 
+irrespective of the typical SSL/TLS configuration variants. E.g. same 
+symptoms irrespective of enabling port 80/http with Require all denied 
+or granted, or moving the CA certificate from SSLCertificateFile to 
+SSLCACertificateFile.
+
+Except for one [ssl:warn] which I cleared with an SSLSessionCache 
+configuration line.
+
+[...] [ssl:warn] [...] AH01873: Init: Session Cache is not configured 
+[hint: SSLSessionCache]
+
+(knowing what breaks the limited success may be useful for troubleshooting).
+
+==================
+
+Concluding:
+
+I Include below (a) the apache configuration file (comment lines 
+removed), (b) a portion of the apache log, and build-time configuration 
+for (c) apache and (d) openssl.
+
+My next step is to look at the mod_ssl source code, starting where the 
+AH01964 log mesage is emitted.
+
+Obviously any hint would be very much appreciated. If I solve the issue, 
+I should report to the mailing list for the record.
+
+In any event, thanks for this wonderful package!
+
+- Thierry Moreau
+
+================== (a)
+ServerRoot "/usr"
+Mutex pthread default
+LoadModule mpm_event_module lib/apache/mod_mpm_event.so
+LoadModule authn_core_module lib/apache/mod_authn_core.so
+LoadModule authz_host_module lib/apache/mod_authz_host.so
+LoadModule authz_groupfile_module lib/apache/mod_authz_groupfile.so
+LoadModule authz_user_module lib/apache/mod_authz_user.so
+LoadModule authz_core_module lib/apache/mod_authz_core.so
+LoadModule access_compat_module lib/apache/mod_access_compat.so
+LoadModule auth_basic_module lib/apache/mod_auth_basic.so
+LoadModule socache_shmcb_module lib/apache/mod_socache_shmcb.so
+LoadModule reqtimeout_module lib/apache/mod_reqtimeout.so
+LoadModule filter_module lib/apache/mod_filter.so
+LoadModule mime_module lib/apache/mod_mime.so
+LoadModule log_config_module lib/apache/mod_log_config.so
+LoadModule env_module lib/apache/mod_env.so
+LoadModule headers_module lib/apache/mod_headers.so
+LoadModule setenvif_module lib/apache/mod_setenvif.so
+LoadModule version_module lib/apache/mod_version.so
+LoadModule ssl_module lib/apache/mod_ssl.so
+LoadModule unixd_module lib/apache/mod_unixd.so
+LoadModule status_module lib/apache/mod_status.so
+LoadModule autoindex_module lib/apache/mod_autoindex.so
+<IfModule unixd_module>
+User www
+Group www
+</IfModule>
+ServerAdmin thierry@bourassa-moreau.org
+Listen 192.168.1.218:443
+ServerName admin-rachis.connotech-internal.com
+SSLSessionCache shmcb:/var/run/apache-ssl-cycl-buf(512000)
+Mutex pthread ssl-cache
+SSLRandomSeed startup "file:/dev/urandom" 512
+SSLRandomSeed connect "file:/dev/urandom"
+<Directory />
+     AllowOverride none
+     Require all denied
+</Directory>
+DocumentRoot "/var/www/htdocs"
+<VirtualHost *:443>
+ServerName admin-rachis.connotech-internal.com
+SSLEngine on
+SSLCertificateFile "/home/tmoreau/serv_ca/server_files/website.501.pem"
+SSLCertificateKeyFile 
+"/home/tmoreau/serv_ca/server_files/web-server-key.500.pem"
+SSLVerifyClient none
+SSLCACertificateFile "/etc/apache/server-ca-ss-plus-aixcm-ca-ss.pem"
+SSLCARevocationCheck none
+SSLOCSPEnable off
+SSLSessionTickets off
+<Directory "/var/www/htdocs">
+     Options +Indexes -FollowSymLinks -ExecCGI -Includes -MultiViews
+     AllowOverride None
+     SSLRequireSSL
+     Require ssl
+</Directory>
+</VirtualHost>
+ErrorLog "/var/log/apache/error_log"
+LogLevel info
+LogLevel ssl_module:trace7
+<IfModule log_config_module>
+     LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b \"%{Referer}i\" 
+\"%{User-Agent}i\"" combined
+     LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b" common
+     <IfModule logio_module>
+       LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b \"%{Referer}i\" 
+\"%{User-Agent}i\" %I %O" combinedio
+     </IfModule>
+     CustomLog "/var/log/apache/access_log" common
+</IfModule>
+<IfModule alias_module>
+     ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "/var/www/cgi-bin/"
+</IfModule>
+<IfModule cgid_module>
+</IfModule>
+<Directory "/var/www/cgi-bin">
+     AllowOverride None
+     Options None
+     Require all granted
+</Directory>
+<IfModule headers_module>
+     RequestHeader unset Proxy early
+</IfModule>
+<IfModule mime_module>
+     TypesConfig /etc/apache/mime.types
+     AddType application/x-compress .Z
+     AddType application/x-gzip .gz .tgz
+</IfModule>
+================== (b)
+[Tue Jul 14 01:10:50.902502 2020] [mpm_event:notice] [pid 28423:tid 
+139850552182656] AH00489: Apache/2.4.43 (Unix) OpenSSL/1.1.1g configured 
+-- resuming normal operations
+[Tue Jul 14 01:10:50.902512 2020] [mpm_event:info] [pid 28423:tid 
+139850552182656] AH00490: Server built: May 29 2020 14:50:50
+[Tue Jul 14 01:10:50.902526 2020] [core:notice] [pid 28423:tid 
+139850552182656] AH00094: Command line: 'httpd'
+[Tue Jul 14 01:11:28.150888 2020] [ssl:info] [pid 28425:tid 
+139850538366720] [client 192.168.1.208:35287] AH01964: Connection to 
+child 64 established (server admin-rachis.connotech-internal.com:443)
+[Tue Jul 14 01:11:52.688801 2020] [core:warn] [pid 28423:tid 
+139850552182656] AH00045: child process 28425 still did not exit, 
+sending a SIGTERM
+[Tue Jul 14 01:11:54.693089 2020] [core:warn] [pid 28423:tid 
+139850552182656] AH00045: child process 28425 still did not exit, 
+sending a SIGTERM
+[Tue Jul 14 01:11:56.699786 2020] [core:warn] [pid 28423:tid 
+139850552182656] AH00045: child process 28425 still did not exit, 
+sending a SIGTERM
+[Tue Jul 14 01:11:58.706450 2020] [core:error] [pid 28423:tid 
+139850552182656] AH00046: child process 28425 still did not exit, 
+sending a SIGKILL
+[Tue Jul 14 01:11:59.709127 2020] [core:info] [pid 28423:tid 
+139850552182656] AH00096: removed PID file /var/run/apache/httpd.pid 
+(pid=28423)
+[Tue Jul 14 01:11:59.709140 2020] [mpm_event:notice] [pid 28423:tid 
+139850552182656] AH00491: caught SIGTERM, shutting down
+================== (c)
+    cat $SRC/crux.layout >> config.layout
+    sed -ri '/^(User|Group)/s/daemon/www/' docs/conf/httpd.conf.in
+
+    ./configure --enable-layout=CRUX \
+                --with-apr=/usr \
+                --with-apr-util=/usr \
+                --with-pcre=/usr \
+                --enable-so \
+                --enable-modules=all \
+                --enable-mods-shared=all \
+                --enable-mpms-shared=all
+
+httpd -V reports:
+
+Server version: Apache/2.4.43 (Unix)
+Server built:   May 29 2020 14:50:50
+Server's Module Magic Number: 20120211:92
+Server loaded:  APR 1.7.0, APR-UTIL 1.6.1
+Compiled using: APR 1.7.0, APR-UTIL 1.6.1
+Architecture:   64-bit
+Server MPM:     event
+   threaded:     yes (fixed thread count)
+     forked:     yes (variable process count)
+Server compiled with....
+  -D APR_HAS_SENDFILE
+  -D APR_HAS_MMAP
+  -D APR_HAVE_IPV6 (IPv4-mapped addresses enabled)
+  -D APR_USE_PROC_PTHREAD_SERIALIZE
+  -D APR_USE_PTHREAD_SERIALIZE
+  -D SINGLE_LISTEN_UNSERIALIZED_ACCEPT
+  -D APR_HAS_OTHER_CHILD
+  -D AP_HAVE_RELIABLE_PIPED_LOGS
+  -D DYNAMIC_MODULE_LIMIT=256
+  -D HTTPD_ROOT="/usr"
+  -D SUEXEC_BIN="/usr/bin/suexec"
+  -D DEFAULT_PIDLOG="/var/run/apache/httpd.pid"
+  -D DEFAULT_SCOREBOARD="logs/apache_runtime_status"
+  -D DEFAULT_ERRORLOG="logs/error_log"
+  -D AP_TYPES_CONFIG_FILE="/etc/apache/mime.types"
+  -D SERVER_CONFIG_FILE="/etc/apache/httpd.conf"
+
+#   CRUX layout
+<Layout CRUX>
+     prefix:          /usr
+     exec_prefix:     ${prefix}
+     bindir:          ${prefix}/bin
+     sbindir:         ${prefix}/sbin
+     libdir:          ${prefix}/lib
+     libexecdir:      ${prefix}/lib/apache
+     installbuilddir: ${prefix}/lib/apache/build
+     mandir:          ${prefix}/share/man
+     sysconfdir:      /etc/apache
+     datadir:         /var/www
+     iconsdir:        ${datadir}/icons
+     htdocsdir:       ${datadir}/htdocs
+     manualdir:       ${htdocsdir}/manual
+     cgidir:          ${datadir}/cgi-bin
+     errordir:        ${datadir}/error
+     includedir:      ${prefix}/include/apache
+     localstatedir:   /var
+     runtimedir:      ${localstatedir}/run/apache
+     logfiledir:      ${localstatedir}/log/apache
+     proxycachedir:   ${localstatedir}/cache/apache
+</Layout>
+================== (d)
+     ./config --prefix=/usr \
+              --libdir=lib \
+              --openssldir=/etc/ssl \
+              shared \
+              enable-ec_nistp_64_gcc_128
+================== -the end-
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+> Am 13.07.2020 um 18:10 schrieb Tom Browder <to...@gmail.com>:
+>=20
+> I'm running Apache 2.4.43 and just added my first managed virtual host
+> with mod_md and all worked fine. Now I want to move all my other
+> virtual host to the same process but I have a few questions first:
+>=20
+> 1. For an auto renewal for the current managed domain, will I have to
+> manually restart each time?
+
+Clarification: only a reload (graceful) is necessary, not stop+start.
+=20
+Since the renewal is done usually a month in advance, you have plenty of =
+time. My debian systemd controlled apache is restarted gracefully each =
+day anyway, for example.
+
+> 2. After I follow the recommendations for the move of the other
+> domains, will they require an initial manual restart?
+
+For a new domain mod_md initially installs a "fallback" certificate that =
+is not trusted by browsers, but lets the server start with your =
+configuration. It usually takes a minute to obtain the Lets Encrypt =
+cert. Do a graceful reload afterwards and your site should be up.
+>=20
+> 3. According to my reading of the docs, using OCSP via mod_md looks to
+> be the best practice. Am I correct?
+
+It is designed to be more reliable and also offers monitoring. But it is =
+a new thing and bugs may be found.
+
+Cheers, Stefan
+
+>=20
+> Thank you.
+>=20
+> Best regards,
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+From: Tom Browder <to...@gmail.com>
+Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 09:48:11 -0500
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+Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000014effa05aa67e6e2"
+Subject: Re: [users@httpd] mod_md: is a restart always require for auto updates?
+
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+
+On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 02:01 Stefan Eissing <st...@greenbytes.de>
+wrote:
+
+> > 1. For an auto renewal for the current managed domain, will I have to
+> > manually restart each time?
+> Clarification: only a reload (graceful) is necessary, not stop+start.
+
+
+Good point, thanks.
+
+Since the renewal is done usually a month in advance, you have plenty of
+> time. My debian systemd controlled apache is restarted gracefully each day
+> anyway, for example.
+
+
+Was that systemd installed by debian or did you modify debian's files or
+install your own?
+
+I haven't yet installed a systemd file because I'm not sure how best to
+create a satisfactory one.  I would like a daily graceful restart even if I
+have to create a manual cron job.
+
+> 3. According to my reading of the docs, using OCSP via mod_md looks to
+> > be the best practice. Am I correct?
+>
+> It is designed to be more reliable and also offers monitoring. But it is a
+> new thing and bugs may be found.
+
+
+I think I will try it. I have nothing really mission critical running.
+
+Thank you very much, Stefan!
+
+Cheers,
+
+-Tom
+
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+
+<div>On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 02:01 Stefan Eissing &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ste=
+fan.eissing@greenbytes.de">stefan.eissing@greenbytes.de</a>&gt; wrote:</div=
+><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
+"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+&gt; 1. For an auto renewal for the current managed domain, will I have to<=
+br>
+&gt; manually restart each time?<br>
+Clarification: only a reload (graceful) is necessary, not stop+start.</bloc=
+kquote><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Good point, thanks.</d=
+iv><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
+argin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Since the ren=
+ewal is done usually a month in advance, you have plenty of time. My debian=
+ systemd controlled apache is restarted gracefully each day anyway, for exa=
+mple.</blockquote><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Was that sy=
+stemd installed by debian or did you modify debian&#39;s files or install y=
+our own?=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I haven&#=
+39;t yet installed a systemd file because I&#39;m not sure how best to crea=
+te a satisfactory one.=C2=A0 I would like a daily graceful restart even if =
+I have to create a manual cron job.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><block=
+quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc=
+ solid;padding-left:1ex">&gt; 3. According to my reading of the docs, using=
+ OCSP via mod_md looks to<br>
+&gt; be the best practice. Am I correct?<br>
+<br>
+It is designed to be more reliable and also offers monitoring. But it is a =
+new thing and bugs may be found.</blockquote><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><d=
+iv dir=3D"auto">I think I will try it. I have nothing really mission critic=
+al running.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Thank you ve=
+ry much, Stefan!</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
+l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left=
+:1ex"></blockquote><div dir=3D"auto">Cheers,</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></d=
+iv><div dir=3D"auto">-Tom</div></div></div>
+
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+> > 1. For an auto renewal for the current managed domain, will I have =
+to
+> > manually restart each time?
+> Clarification: only a reload (graceful) is necessary, not stop+start.
+>=20
+> Good point, thanks.
+>=20
+> Since the renewal is done usually a month in advance, you have plenty =
+of time. My debian systemd controlled apache is restarted gracefully =
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+> Was that systemd installed by debian or did you modify debian's files =
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+I am using the plain debian sid setup.
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+Subject: Re: [users@httpd] TLS Client Hello not responded by mod_ssl
+
+> Dear Apache enthusiasts ...
+>
+> My application is a very simple https-only apache (2.4.43) server with
+> mod_ssl (openssl 1.1.1g) in Linux (crux distribution 3.5).
+
+[...]
+
+>     ./configure --enable-layout=CRUX \
+>                 --with-apr=/usr \
+>                 --with-apr-util=/usr \
+>                 --with-pcre=/usr \
+>                 --enable-so \
+>                 --enable-modules=all \
+>                 --enable-mods-shared=all \
+>                 --enable-mpms-shared=all
+
+[...]
+
+> ================== (d)
+>      ./config --prefix=/usr \
+>               --libdir=lib \
+>               --openssldir=/etc/ssl \
+>               shared \
+>               enable-ec_nistp_64_gcc_128
+> ================== -the end-
+
+It appears that you're trying to use a custom openssl installation
+to build your httpd, but at a casual glance, I haven't seen anything
+that would actually make your httpd use that openssl installation.
+
+Make sure that only the correct openssl headers are included during the
+build, and that the LD_LIBRARY_PATH, LD_RUN_PATH or preferrably
+DT_RUNPATH or DT_RPATH are set so that the matching libraries are
+loaded and used (typically using -Wl,-R,/<path>). Also, make sure that
+no other modules or libraries  are - possibly indirectly - linked against other
+versions of openssl and load those during runtime. Use ldd against all
+binaries involved to make sure.
+
+If you want to dig deeper, I'd recommend re-compiling with debug infos (-g),
+running with mpm_prefork for simplicity, attaching one httpd process that's
+stuck in the ssl handshake and getting a full backtrace (bt full).
+
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+Subject: [users@httpd] variable caused hidden issues
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+For ages my Apache web server wound not work properly.
+
+Details:
+I spent a while configuring and installing web applications.  Like =
+I=E2=80=99ve done on several other machines.
+It was all working at this time.  Then I decided to use variables rather =
+than hard-coded values.
+
+Check:
+When problems first arrived, I ran =E2=80=9Capachectl -t=E2=80=9D, to =
+test the syntax - it said Syntax OK.  However each page that tried to =
+visit (on my local machine) returned 403 Forbidden.
+
+Due to other projects I ignored this and decided to fix it later.  (This =
+also gave me space in the logs - so I could distinguish this issue.)
+
+The logs just said the "client denied by server configuration: =E2=80=9D =
+then said my document root.  This is quite general, but it indicated the =
+problem was document root.  So I looked for a .htaccess file - was none, =
+so I created an empty one - no difference.
+
+Using trial and error, I swapped each variable with hard-coded values =
+(reloading Apache, and testing each time).
+
+Fixed:
+Finally it worked after changing the =E2=80=9C<Directory =E2=80=9C for =
+my document root.  Quickly I examined it - looked OK.  Upon close =
+examination, I had $(=E2=80=A6} instead of ${=E2=80=A6}.  A fine look =
+revealed a parenthesis ( was used by mistake instead of a curly-brace {.
+
+Yet apachectl -t said Syntax OK, the typo wasn=E2=80=99t picked-up.
+
+
+--Apple-Mail=_C0B6D04D-8FB4-4F0B-A33B-748835DDEF57
+Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
+Content-Type: text/html;
+	charset=utf-8
+
+<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
+charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
+-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">For =
+ages my Apache web server wound not work properly.<div class=3D""><br =
+class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Details:</div><div class=3D"">I spent a =
+while configuring and installing web applications. &nbsp;Like I=E2=80=99ve=
+ done on several other machines.</div><div class=3D"">It was all working =
+at this time. &nbsp;Then I decided to use variables rather than =
+hard-coded values.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
+class=3D"">Check:</div><div class=3D"">When problems first arrived, I =
+ran =E2=80=9Capachectl -t=E2=80=9D, to test the syntax - it said Syntax =
+OK. &nbsp;However each page that tried to visit (on my local machine) =
+returned 403 Forbidden.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
+class=3D"">Due to other projects I ignored this and decided to fix it =
+later. &nbsp;(This also gave me space in the logs - so I could =
+distinguish this issue.)</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
+class=3D"">The logs just said the "<span style=3D"font-family: Menlo; =
+font-size: 17px;" class=3D"">client denied</span><span =
+style=3D"font-family: Menlo; font-size: 17px;" =
+class=3D"">&nbsp;</span><font face=3D"Menlo" class=3D""><span =
+style=3D"font-size: 17px;" class=3D"">by server =
+configuration:</span></font>&nbsp;=E2=80=9D then said my document root. =
+&nbsp;This is quite general, but it indicated the problem was document =
+root. &nbsp;So I looked for a .htaccess file - was none, so I created an =
+empty one - no difference.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
+class=3D"">Using trial and error, I swapped each variable with =
+hard-coded values (reloading Apache, and testing each time).</div><div =
+class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Fixed:</div><div =
+class=3D"">Finally it worked after changing the =E2=80=9C&lt;Directory =
+=E2=80=9C for my document root. &nbsp;Quickly I examined it - looked OK. =
+&nbsp;Upon close examination, I had $(=E2=80=A6} instead of ${=E2=80=A6}. =
+&nbsp;A fine look revealed a parenthesis ( was used by mistake instead =
+of a curly-brace {.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
+class=3D"">Yet apachectl -t said Syntax OK, the typo wasn=E2=80=99t =
+picked-up.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></body></html>=
+
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+Subject: Re: [users@httpd] TLS Client Hello not responded by mod_ssl
+
+Solved!
+
+The configuration line:
+
+SSLRandomSeed connect "file:/dev/urandom"
+
+was missing a (not-always-)optional byte count as in
+
+SSLRandomSeed connect "file:/dev/urandom" 512
+
+and the mod_ssl software logic was attempting to read to end of file in 
+function ssl_rand_seed(...).
+
+
+Thanks to Rainer for feedback, supporting the idea to look at running 
+code. I did recompile with a few calls to ap_log_error.
+
+The seemingly "custom" installation was not exactly custom, being part 
+of the Crux source-based Linux distribution.
+
+- Thierry Moreau
+
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+From: Jacob Champion <ch...@gmail.com>
+To: users@httpd.apache.org
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+Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 19:12:23 -0700
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+Subject: [users@httpd] Announcing mod_websocket v0.1.2
+
+I'm happy to announce version 0.1.2 of mod_websocket:
+
+     https://github.com/jchampio/apache-websocket/releases/tag/0.1.2
+
+mod_websocket is an Apache 2.x module that allows developers to write C-
+and C++-based WebSocket services. The intent is for mod_websocket plugin
+writers to develop their services independently of the Apache server API.
+
+This is a "dust off the build" release -- the user-facing changes have
+been in master for four years, but never officially released. One major
+bug has been fixed, a few minor cleanups have been made, and a new build
+system for *nix platforms was contributed to the project. I am also
+dropping testing coverage for the obsolete 2.2 server line, though I
+won't intentionally break 2.2 features until a future 0.2 release.
+
+= Major New Features/Fixes =
+
+- Extremely fragmented messages no longer cause poor performance and
+   possible DoS conditions. Thanks to Paul Spangler for his fix
+   suggestion!
+- The CMake build system now supports *nix platforms as well as Windows.
+   Thanks to @toniotelli for the contribution!
+- The 'MaxMessageSize' directive has been renamed to
+   'WebSocketMaxMessageSize'; its previous spelling is deprecated and
+   will be removed in the future.
+
+A full changelist can be seen at the release description on GitHub.
+
+= Major Known Issues =
+
+This is a pre-release, zero-dot module. There are known issues that may
+preclude its use in production systems. Please understand them and take
+steps to avoid them if you decide to deploy mod_websocket.
+
+- Apache worker threads are completely monopolized by WebSocket
+   connections. This makes it possible for a large number of connections
+   to DoS the server.
+
+A more complete (but not necessarily exhaustive) list is available at
+the repo page on GitHub:
+
+     https://github.com/jchampio/apache-websocket/issues
+
+= What's Next =
+
+There's a lot of stuff to do. During my absence from the project,
+WebSocket has received a transport based on HTTP/2, several optional
+WebSocket features have seen more mainstream use, and Python 2 was
+EoL'd. And the existing issues list didn't become any shorter,
+unfortunately.
+
+Questions? Comments? Let me know. Thanks for your interest!
+
+--Jacob Champion
+
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+From: Mahmood Naderan <nt...@yahoo.com.INVALID>
+Reply-To: Mahmood Naderan <nt...@yahoo.com>
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+Subject: [users@httpd] Counting connections against the limit
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+Hello
+I want to know what is the relation between ServerLimit and=C2=A0MaxRequest=
+Workers? I have read about them on the apache website, but still I don't kn=
+ow are these two equal or one should be greater than the other? If yes, by =
+how much approximately and why?
+
+Also, I want to count the connections with netstat command and compare them=
+ with the ServerLimit. I guess ServerLimit is the one that should be monito=
+red. When I check "netstat -plan | grep :443", I see all connections states=
+. Some are not part of the ServerLimit, e.g=C2=A0 TIME_WAIT and CLOSE_WAIT.=
+ But, I don't know which one should I count exactly. Only ESTABLISHED?
+
+I appreciate any comment for making that clear.
+
+
+Regards,
+Mahmood
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+<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydp14daeef0yahoo-style-wrap" style=
+=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px=
+;"><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Hello</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-=
+setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I want to=
+ know what is the relation between ServerLimit and&nbsp;<span>MaxRequestWor=
+kers? I have read about them on the apache website, but still I don't know =
+are these two equal or one should be greater than the other? If yes, by how=
+ much approximately and why?</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fa=
+lse"><span><br></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><span><b=
+r></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><span>Also, I want to=
+ count the connections with netstat command and compare them with the Serve=
+rLimit. I guess ServerLimit is the one that should be monitored. When I che=
+ck "<span>netstat -plan | grep :443", I see all connections states. Some ar=
+e not part of the ServerLimit, e.g&nbsp; TIME_WAIT and CLOSE_WAIT. But, I d=
+on't know which one should I count exactly. Only ESTABLISHED?</span></span>=
+</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><span><span><br></span></span>=
+</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><span><span><br></span></span>=
+</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I appreciate any comment for m=
+aking that clear.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><di=
+v dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div><br></div><div class=3D"=
+ydp14daeef0signature">Regards,<br>Mahmood</div></div></body></html>
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