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Posted to users@tomcat.apache.org by John Marquart <jo...@indiana.edu> on 2000/12/08 16:00:53 UTC
This List is over-whelming
TOMCATers,
Is there any way to make a digest form of this list available? Is
there an archive? I cannot find one mentioned at the jakarta homepage.
This list generates a huge amount of traffic - much of it redundant or
already contained in the faq. This is the kind of traffic that will most
likely beat your best and brightest into the darkness and turns off
novices such as myself. I have not been on a technical mailing list in
quite some-time which responds as consistently to questions already in the
FAQ. The very few non-FAQ threads that I have found on the list have been
great and have taught me alot, but the noise-to-signal ratio in general is
troubling.
Once before there was a discussion about moving/adding a newsgroup /
digest format. The newsgroups idea was shot-down because it would be
possible that some individuals would not be able to access it from behind
firewalls. Can we have a digest then? Most mailing-list software can
handle digests - it cannot be that difficult to configure.
If such a digest already exists - I apologize, and beg you to add its
subscription information to the jakarta.apache.org mailing list pages.
thank you,
-jamie
John "Jamie" Marquart | This message posted 100% MS free.
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Re: This List is over-whelming
Posted by "David M. Karr" <dk...@tcsi.com>.
>>>>> "John" == John Marquart <jo...@indiana.edu> writes:
John> TOMCATers,
John> Is there any way to make a digest form of this list available? Is
John> there an archive? I cannot find one mentioned at the jakarta homepage.
John> This list generates a huge amount of traffic - much of it redundant or
John> already contained in the faq. This is the kind of traffic that will most
John> likely beat your best and brightest into the darkness and turns off
John> novices such as myself. I have not been on a technical mailing list in
John> quite some-time which responds as consistently to questions already in the
John> FAQ. The very few non-FAQ threads that I have found on the list have been
John> great and have taught me alot, but the noise-to-signal ratio in general is
John> troubling.
I feel sorry for all the people who could benefit from numerous
different mailing lists, but who don't use the GNUS newsreader inside
of Emacs to read their mail and mailing lists, so they avoid mailing
lists.
I subscribe to ~20 mailing lists, several of them somewhat
high-volume, and using GNUS to read/write them (or even ignore them
sometimes) is a breeze. It's just a teensy bit harder to set up than
your average mail reader. It can also be useful to have a workable
mail filtering agent, like "Procmail", but you can get by without it.
--
===============================================================================
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Software Engineer ; Unix/Java/C++/X ; BrainBench CJ12P (#12004)
Re: This List is over-whelming
Posted by Travis Low <tr...@dawnstar.org>.
How about a separate list for tomcat-jsp?
T
John Marquart wrote:
>
> TOMCATers,
> Is there any way to make a digest form of this list available? Is
> there an archive? I cannot find one mentioned at the jakarta homepage.
>
> This list generates a huge amount of traffic - much of it redundant or
> already contained in the faq. This is the kind of traffic that will most
> likely beat your best and brightest into the darkness and turns off
> novices such as myself. I have not been on a technical mailing list in
> quite some-time which responds as consistently to questions already in the
> FAQ. The very few non-FAQ threads that I have found on the list have been
> great and have taught me alot, but the noise-to-signal ratio in general is
> troubling.
>
> Once before there was a discussion about moving/adding a newsgroup /
> digest format. The newsgroups idea was shot-down because it would be
> possible that some individuals would not be able to access it from behind
> firewalls. Can we have a digest then? Most mailing-list software can
> handle digests - it cannot be that difficult to configure.
>
> If such a digest already exists - I apologize, and beg you to add its
> subscription information to the jakarta.apache.org mailing list pages.
>
> thank you,
> -jamie
>
> John "Jamie" Marquart | This message posted 100% MS free.
> Digital Library SysAdmin | Work: 812-856-5174 Pager: 812-334-6018
> Indiana University Libraries | ICQ: 1131494 D'net Team: 6265
-- Travis Low
<ma...@dawnstar.org>
<http://dawnstar.org/travis>
Re: This List is over-whelming
Posted by John Marquart <jo...@indiana.edu>.
Well - I am glad that there does exist a list-archive, however that
appears to be the tomcat-dev list and not the tomcat-user list. The view
by date links all appear to be broken as well.
The search function works :) So I thanks you for the link.
-jamie
On Fri, 8 Dec 2000, Trevor Little wrote:
> Here's a searchable archive
>
> http://w6.metronet.com/~wjm/tomcat/FromFeb11/mail11.html
>
>
> John Marquart wrote:
> >
> > TOMCATers,
> > Is there any way to make a digest form of this list available? Is
> > there an archive? I cannot find one mentioned at the jakarta homepage.
> >
> > This list generates a huge amount of traffic - much of it redundant or
> > already contained in the faq. This is the kind of traffic that will most
> > likely beat your best and brightest into the darkness and turns off
> > novices such as myself. I have not been on a technical mailing list in
> > quite some-time which responds as consistently to questions already in the
> > FAQ. The very few non-FAQ threads that I have found on the list have been
> > great and have taught me alot, but the noise-to-signal ratio in general is
> > troubling.
> >
> > Once before there was a discussion about moving/adding a newsgroup /
> > digest format. The newsgroups idea was shot-down because it would be
> > possible that some individuals would not be able to access it from behind
> > firewalls. Can we have a digest then? Most mailing-list software can
> > handle digests - it cannot be that difficult to configure.
> >
> > If such a digest already exists - I apologize, and beg you to add its
> > subscription information to the jakarta.apache.org mailing list pages.
> >
> > thank you,
> > -jamie
> >
> > John "Jamie" Marquart | This message posted 100% MS free.
> > Digital Library SysAdmin | Work: 812-856-5174 Pager: 812-334-6018
> > Indiana University Libraries | ICQ: 1131494 D'net Team: 6265
>
John "Jamie" Marquart | This message posted 100% MS free.
Digital Library SysAdmin | Work: 812-856-5174 Pager: 812-334-6018
Indiana University Libraries | ICQ: 1131494 D'net Team: 6265
Re: This List is over-whelming
Posted by Trevor Little <tl...@hoaglandlongo.com>.
Here's a searchable archive
http://w6.metronet.com/~wjm/tomcat/FromFeb11/mail11.html
John Marquart wrote:
>
> TOMCATers,
> Is there any way to make a digest form of this list available? Is
> there an archive? I cannot find one mentioned at the jakarta homepage.
>
> This list generates a huge amount of traffic - much of it redundant or
> already contained in the faq. This is the kind of traffic that will most
> likely beat your best and brightest into the darkness and turns off
> novices such as myself. I have not been on a technical mailing list in
> quite some-time which responds as consistently to questions already in the
> FAQ. The very few non-FAQ threads that I have found on the list have been
> great and have taught me alot, but the noise-to-signal ratio in general is
> troubling.
>
> Once before there was a discussion about moving/adding a newsgroup /
> digest format. The newsgroups idea was shot-down because it would be
> possible that some individuals would not be able to access it from behind
> firewalls. Can we have a digest then? Most mailing-list software can
> handle digests - it cannot be that difficult to configure.
>
> If such a digest already exists - I apologize, and beg you to add its
> subscription information to the jakarta.apache.org mailing list pages.
>
> thank you,
> -jamie
>
> John "Jamie" Marquart | This message posted 100% MS free.
> Digital Library SysAdmin | Work: 812-856-5174 Pager: 812-334-6018
> Indiana University Libraries | ICQ: 1131494 D'net Team: 6265
List of archives for tomcat-user
Posted by David Rees <dr...@ebetinc.com>.
> TOMCATers,
> Is there any way to make a digest form of this list available? Is
> there an archive? I cannot find one mentioned at the jakarta homepage.
There is an archive (actually, two!) In fact, I posted this information
last week:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=tomcat-user&m=97606009209403&w=2
The one I like to use (which goes back to 3/2000):
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=tomcat-user&r=1&w=2
And the official one (which may not work if you're behind a firewall, you
need outgoing access to port 9999 to perform searches):
http://mikal.org/interests/java/tomcat/index.html
There's even one more!
http://www.mail-archive.com/tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org/
Can the webmaster of jakarta.apache.org put links to these additional
archives up on the site?
-Dave