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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> on 2012/10/19 19:44:51 UTC
How many countries has AOO been downloaded from?
I've seen some online traffic, on Twitter and elsewhere, questioning
the claim in our graduation press release that AOO has been downloaded
by users in "228 countries". The critics of this claim say that there
are not that many countries in the world.
Well, it depends on how you define things. There are UN countries.
There are Olympic countries. There are postal countries. There are
countries with telephone country codes. And so on. These don't all
correspond with each other. (Look at the complexities with the status
of Taiwan or Macedonia, for example).
The definition used when looking at internet traffic is (not
surprisingly) "internet countries", e.g., countries with an assigned
ccTLD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_top-level_domains#Country_code_top-level_domains).
In this scheme, for example, Martinique (.mq) and France (.fr) are
two different countries, although politically Martinique is an
overseas region, or région d'outre-mer, of France.
You can see the complete list of internet countries from which AOO has
been downloaded here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stats/map?dates=2012-06-01+to+2012-10-19
As you can see, the number is now 232, indicating that the press
release understated the number.
Anyone who is interested can take this publicly available data and map
it to whatever other country-counting convention they wish, whether
based on UN membership, US diplomatic recognition, Universal Postal
Union, or whatever.
Regards,
-Rob
Re: How many countries has AOO been downloaded from?
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
Which begs the question: who are the four hold-outs?
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> I've seen some online traffic, on Twitter and elsewhere, questioning
> the claim in our graduation press release that AOO has been downloaded
> by users in "228 countries". The critics of this claim say that there
> are not that many countries in the world.
>
> Well, it depends on how you define things. There are UN countries.
> There are Olympic countries. There are postal countries. There are
> countries with telephone country codes. And so on. These don't all
> correspond with each other. (Look at the complexities with the status
> of Taiwan or Macedonia, for example).
>
> The definition used when looking at internet traffic is (not
> surprisingly) "internet countries", e.g., countries with an assigned
> ccTLD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_top-level_domains#Country_code_top-level_domains).
> In this scheme, for example, Martinique (.mq) and France (.fr) are
> two different countries, although politically Martinique is an
> overseas region, or région d'outre-mer, of France.
>
> You can see the complete list of internet countries from which AOO has
> been downloaded here:
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stats/map?dates=2012-06-01+to+2012-10-19
>
> As you can see, the number is now 232, indicating that the press
> release understated the number.
>
> Anyone who is interested can take this publicly available data and map
> it to whatever other country-counting convention they wish, whether
> based on UN membership, US diplomatic recognition, Universal Postal
> Union, or whatever.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
Re: How many countries has AOO been downloaded from?
Posted by Christoph Jopp <jo...@gmx.de>.
Am 19.10.2012 19:44, schrieb Rob Weir:
[...]
> You can see the complete list of internet countries from which AOO has
> been downloaded here:
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stats/map?dates=2012-06-01+to+2012-10-19
>
> As you can see, the number is now 232, indicating that the press
> release understated the number.
>
[...]
Just to satisfy nit-pickers:
The list of 232 contains also
Europe (specific country unknown)
Anonymous Proxy
Satellite Provider
Asia/Pacific Region (specific country unknown)
Unknown
This makes 232 - 5 = 227 countries ;-)
Re: How many countries has AOO been downloaded from?
Posted by Guy Waterval <wa...@gmail.com>.
Hi jan,
Hi all,
2012/10/19 jan iversen <ja...@gmail.com>
> I think the fact that it is not our data is important, but I agree that
> putting the link there could be a problem.
>
> Could we not simply write that our data "comes from" or are "verified by",
> and then a general link ?
>
Is it not possible to simple say : .... productivity suite widely used all
over the world; over 20 million downloads .....?
A+
--
gw
>
Re: How many countries has AOO been downloaded from?
Posted by Donald Whytock <dw...@gmail.com>.
Should a form of this appear on the AOO blog?
Don
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:12 PM, jan iversen <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think the fact that it is not our data is important, but I agree that
> putting the link there could be a problem.
>
> Could we not simply write that our data "comes from" or are "verified by",
> and then a general link ?
>
> Jan.
>
> On 19 October 2012 20:00, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 1:55 PM, jan iversen <ja...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > This is really a lot more convincing than just a number, and something to
>> > be proud of !!
>> >
>>
>> And intriguing. It shows 62 downloads from the Vatican City. So Pope
>> Benedict, of course. But who are the other 61 ;-)
>>
>> > Would it be an idea, to put a link in the on openoffice.org to this
>> page,
>> > e.g. in the news area with the name (download statistics) ?
>> >
>>
>> It might need some scripting, since the URL includes a date range as
>> parameters. And in general I hesitate to put a home page link to some
>> else's database query, due to the load it could generate for them. We
>> get 250K+ home page visits/day. That could generate a lot of queries.
>> So maybe we could take that info periodically (it doesn't change too
>> quickly) and put a static version up on the website. That is what we
>> do currently for the download counts:
>> http://www.openoffice.org/stats/
>>
>> -rob
>>
>> > Jan.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 19 October 2012 19:44, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I've seen some online traffic, on Twitter and elsewhere, questioning
>> >> the claim in our graduation press release that AOO has been downloaded
>> >> by users in "228 countries". The critics of this claim say that there
>> >> are not that many countries in the world.
>> >>
>> >> Well, it depends on how you define things. There are UN countries.
>> >> There are Olympic countries. There are postal countries. There are
>> >> countries with telephone country codes. And so on. These don't all
>> >> correspond with each other. (Look at the complexities with the status
>> >> of Taiwan or Macedonia, for example).
>> >>
>> >> The definition used when looking at internet traffic is (not
>> >> surprisingly) "internet countries", e.g., countries with an assigned
>> >> ccTLD (
>> >>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_top-level_domains#Country_code_top-level_domains
>> >> ).
>> >> In this scheme, for example, Martinique (.mq) and France (.fr) are
>> >> two different countries, although politically Martinique is an
>> >> overseas region, or région d'outre-mer, of France.
>> >>
>> >> You can see the complete list of internet countries from which AOO has
>> >> been downloaded here:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stats/map?dates=2012-06-01+to+2012-10-19
>> >>
>> >> As you can see, the number is now 232, indicating that the press
>> >> release understated the number.
>> >>
>> >> Anyone who is interested can take this publicly available data and map
>> >> it to whatever other country-counting convention they wish, whether
>> >> based on UN membership, US diplomatic recognition, Universal Postal
>> >> Union, or whatever.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> -Rob
>> >>
>>
Re: How many countries has AOO been downloaded from?
Posted by jan iversen <ja...@gmail.com>.
I think the fact that it is not our data is important, but I agree that
putting the link there could be a problem.
Could we not simply write that our data "comes from" or are "verified by",
and then a general link ?
Jan.
On 19 October 2012 20:00, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 1:55 PM, jan iversen <ja...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > This is really a lot more convincing than just a number, and something to
> > be proud of !!
> >
>
> And intriguing. It shows 62 downloads from the Vatican City. So Pope
> Benedict, of course. But who are the other 61 ;-)
>
> > Would it be an idea, to put a link in the on openoffice.org to this
> page,
> > e.g. in the news area with the name (download statistics) ?
> >
>
> It might need some scripting, since the URL includes a date range as
> parameters. And in general I hesitate to put a home page link to some
> else's database query, due to the load it could generate for them. We
> get 250K+ home page visits/day. That could generate a lot of queries.
> So maybe we could take that info periodically (it doesn't change too
> quickly) and put a static version up on the website. That is what we
> do currently for the download counts:
> http://www.openoffice.org/stats/
>
> -rob
>
> > Jan.
> >
> >
> > On 19 October 2012 19:44, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I've seen some online traffic, on Twitter and elsewhere, questioning
> >> the claim in our graduation press release that AOO has been downloaded
> >> by users in "228 countries". The critics of this claim say that there
> >> are not that many countries in the world.
> >>
> >> Well, it depends on how you define things. There are UN countries.
> >> There are Olympic countries. There are postal countries. There are
> >> countries with telephone country codes. And so on. These don't all
> >> correspond with each other. (Look at the complexities with the status
> >> of Taiwan or Macedonia, for example).
> >>
> >> The definition used when looking at internet traffic is (not
> >> surprisingly) "internet countries", e.g., countries with an assigned
> >> ccTLD (
> >>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_top-level_domains#Country_code_top-level_domains
> >> ).
> >> In this scheme, for example, Martinique (.mq) and France (.fr) are
> >> two different countries, although politically Martinique is an
> >> overseas region, or région d'outre-mer, of France.
> >>
> >> You can see the complete list of internet countries from which AOO has
> >> been downloaded here:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stats/map?dates=2012-06-01+to+2012-10-19
> >>
> >> As you can see, the number is now 232, indicating that the press
> >> release understated the number.
> >>
> >> Anyone who is interested can take this publicly available data and map
> >> it to whatever other country-counting convention they wish, whether
> >> based on UN membership, US diplomatic recognition, Universal Postal
> >> Union, or whatever.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >>
>
Re: How many countries has AOO been downloaded from?
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 1:55 PM, jan iversen <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is really a lot more convincing than just a number, and something to
> be proud of !!
>
And intriguing. It shows 62 downloads from the Vatican City. So Pope
Benedict, of course. But who are the other 61 ;-)
> Would it be an idea, to put a link in the on openoffice.org to this page,
> e.g. in the news area with the name (download statistics) ?
>
It might need some scripting, since the URL includes a date range as
parameters. And in general I hesitate to put a home page link to some
else's database query, due to the load it could generate for them. We
get 250K+ home page visits/day. That could generate a lot of queries.
So maybe we could take that info periodically (it doesn't change too
quickly) and put a static version up on the website. That is what we
do currently for the download counts:
http://www.openoffice.org/stats/
-rob
> Jan.
>
>
> On 19 October 2012 19:44, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> I've seen some online traffic, on Twitter and elsewhere, questioning
>> the claim in our graduation press release that AOO has been downloaded
>> by users in "228 countries". The critics of this claim say that there
>> are not that many countries in the world.
>>
>> Well, it depends on how you define things. There are UN countries.
>> There are Olympic countries. There are postal countries. There are
>> countries with telephone country codes. And so on. These don't all
>> correspond with each other. (Look at the complexities with the status
>> of Taiwan or Macedonia, for example).
>>
>> The definition used when looking at internet traffic is (not
>> surprisingly) "internet countries", e.g., countries with an assigned
>> ccTLD (
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_top-level_domains#Country_code_top-level_domains
>> ).
>> In this scheme, for example, Martinique (.mq) and France (.fr) are
>> two different countries, although politically Martinique is an
>> overseas region, or région d'outre-mer, of France.
>>
>> You can see the complete list of internet countries from which AOO has
>> been downloaded here:
>>
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stats/map?dates=2012-06-01+to+2012-10-19
>>
>> As you can see, the number is now 232, indicating that the press
>> release understated the number.
>>
>> Anyone who is interested can take this publicly available data and map
>> it to whatever other country-counting convention they wish, whether
>> based on UN membership, US diplomatic recognition, Universal Postal
>> Union, or whatever.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Rob
>>
Re: How many countries has AOO been downloaded from?
Posted by jan iversen <ja...@gmail.com>.
This is really a lot more convincing than just a number, and something to
be proud of !!
Would it be an idea, to put a link in the on openoffice.org to this page,
e.g. in the news area with the name (download statistics) ?
Jan.
On 19 October 2012 19:44, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> I've seen some online traffic, on Twitter and elsewhere, questioning
> the claim in our graduation press release that AOO has been downloaded
> by users in "228 countries". The critics of this claim say that there
> are not that many countries in the world.
>
> Well, it depends on how you define things. There are UN countries.
> There are Olympic countries. There are postal countries. There are
> countries with telephone country codes. And so on. These don't all
> correspond with each other. (Look at the complexities with the status
> of Taiwan or Macedonia, for example).
>
> The definition used when looking at internet traffic is (not
> surprisingly) "internet countries", e.g., countries with an assigned
> ccTLD (
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_top-level_domains#Country_code_top-level_domains
> ).
> In this scheme, for example, Martinique (.mq) and France (.fr) are
> two different countries, although politically Martinique is an
> overseas region, or région d'outre-mer, of France.
>
> You can see the complete list of internet countries from which AOO has
> been downloaded here:
>
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stats/map?dates=2012-06-01+to+2012-10-19
>
> As you can see, the number is now 232, indicating that the press
> release understated the number.
>
> Anyone who is interested can take this publicly available data and map
> it to whatever other country-counting convention they wish, whether
> based on UN membership, US diplomatic recognition, Universal Postal
> Union, or whatever.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>