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[VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
I propose that ComDev submmit the following statement to the board:
"The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be
diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF formulate a
strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC
likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in which
ComDev can support our progress in these areas."
Here's my +1.
Best Regards,
Myrle
PMC Member, Apache Community Development
Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
+1
Jacques
Le 05/05/2019 à 10:03, Pierre Smits a écrit :
> I am not one of the privileged contributors, but this has my wholehearted +1
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*
> *Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
> Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
> *Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without privileges)
> since 2008*
> Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer
>
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 8:48 AM Awasum Yannick <aw...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 2:35 AM Joan Touzet <wo...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Not sure if it's binding (I'm not on the ComDev PMC) but +1 from me.
>>>
>>> -Joan
>>>
>>> On 2019-05-04 7:52 p.m., Ross Gardler wrote:
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 4:00 PM
>>>> To: dev@community.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
>>>>
>>>> Myrle Krantz wrote on 5/4/19 6:06 PM:
>>>>> I propose that ComDev submmit the following statement to the board:
>>>>>
>>>>> "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
>>>>> committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to
>> be
>>>>> diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF
>> formulate
>>> a
>>>>> strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC
>>>>> likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in
>> which
>>>>> ComDev can support our progress in these areas."
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's my +1.
>>>> +1 also.
>>>>
>>>> Do you want to s/support our progress/support progress/? (Or am I the
>>>> one misparsing the pronoun?)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> - Shane
>>>> Community Development PMC
>>>> The Apache Software Foundation
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Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
Posted by Pierre Smits <pi...@apache.org>.
I am not one of the privileged contributors, but this has my wholehearted +1
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
*Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*
*Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
*Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without privileges)
since 2008*
Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer
On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 8:48 AM Awasum Yannick <aw...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 2:35 AM Joan Touzet <wo...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Not sure if it's binding (I'm not on the ComDev PMC) but +1 from me.
> >
> > -Joan
> >
> > On 2019-05-04 7:52 p.m., Ross Gardler wrote:
> > > +1
> > >
> > > ________________________________________
> > > From: Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 4:00 PM
> > > To: dev@community.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
> > >
> > > Myrle Krantz wrote on 5/4/19 6:06 PM:
> > >> I propose that ComDev submmit the following statement to the board:
> > >>
> > >> "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
> > >> committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to
> be
> > >> diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF
> formulate
> > a
> > >> strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC
> > >> likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in
> which
> > >> ComDev can support our progress in these areas."
> > >>
> > >> Here's my +1.
> > >
> > > +1 also.
> > >
> > > Do you want to s/support our progress/support progress/? (Or am I the
> > > one misparsing the pronoun?)
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > - Shane
> > > Community Development PMC
> > > The Apache Software Foundation
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Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
Posted by Awasum Yannick <aw...@apache.org>.
+1
On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 2:35 AM Joan Touzet <wo...@apache.org> wrote:
> Not sure if it's binding (I'm not on the ComDev PMC) but +1 from me.
>
> -Joan
>
> On 2019-05-04 7:52 p.m., Ross Gardler wrote:
> > +1
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 4:00 PM
> > To: dev@community.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
> >
> > Myrle Krantz wrote on 5/4/19 6:06 PM:
> >> I propose that ComDev submmit the following statement to the board:
> >>
> >> "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
> >> committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be
> >> diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF formulate
> a
> >> strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC
> >> likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in which
> >> ComDev can support our progress in these areas."
> >>
> >> Here's my +1.
> >
> > +1 also.
> >
> > Do you want to s/support our progress/support progress/? (Or am I the
> > one misparsing the pronoun?)
> >
> > --
> >
> > - Shane
> > Community Development PMC
> > The Apache Software Foundation
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Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
Posted by Joan Touzet <wo...@apache.org>.
Not sure if it's binding (I'm not on the ComDev PMC) but +1 from me.
-Joan
On 2019-05-04 7:52 p.m., Ross Gardler wrote:
> +1
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 4:00 PM
> To: dev@community.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
>
> Myrle Krantz wrote on 5/4/19 6:06 PM:
>> I propose that ComDev submmit the following statement to the board:
>>
>> "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
>> committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be
>> diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF formulate a
>> strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC
>> likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in which
>> ComDev can support our progress in these areas."
>>
>> Here's my +1.
>
> +1 also.
>
> Do you want to s/support our progress/support progress/? (Or am I the
> one misparsing the pronoun?)
>
> --
>
> - Shane
> Community Development PMC
> The Apache Software Foundation
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Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
Posted by Ross Gardler <ro...@gardler.me>.
+1
________________________________________
From: Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 4:00 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
Myrle Krantz wrote on 5/4/19 6:06 PM:
> I propose that ComDev submmit the following statement to the board:
>
> "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
> committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be
> diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF formulate a
> strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC
> likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in which
> ComDev can support our progress in these areas."
>
> Here's my +1.
+1 also.
Do you want to s/support our progress/support progress/? (Or am I the
one misparsing the pronoun?)
--
- Shane
Community Development PMC
The Apache Software Foundation
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Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
Posted by Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org>.
Myrle Krantz wrote on 5/4/19 6:06 PM:
> I propose that ComDev submmit the following statement to the board:
>
> "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
> committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be
> diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF formulate a
> strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC
> likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in which
> ComDev can support our progress in these areas."
>
> Here's my +1.
+1 also.
Do you want to s/support our progress/support progress/? (Or am I the
one misparsing the pronoun?)
--
- Shane
Community Development PMC
The Apache Software Foundation
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Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
I am +1 on the spin out; I am -1 on ComDev specifying a President's cmmt as the form of the spin out.
> On May 4, 2019, at 6:06 PM, Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> I propose that ComDev submmit the following statement to the board:
>
> "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
> committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be
> diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF formulate a
> strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC
> likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in which
> ComDev can support our progress in these areas."
>
> Here's my +1.
>
> Best Regards,
> Myrle
> PMC Member, Apache Community Development
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Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
Posted by Griselda Cuevas <gr...@google.com.INVALID>.
+1
On Sun, 5 May 2019 at 17:27, Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1
>
> Dinesh
>
> > On May 5, 2019, at 1:09 PM, Nate McCall <zz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I propose that ComDev submmit the following statement to the board:
> >>
> >> "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
> >> committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be
> >> diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF formulate
> a
> >> strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC
> >> likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in which
> >> ComDev can support our progress in these areas."
> >>
> >> Here's my +1.
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
> >> Myrle
> >> PMC Member, Apache Community Development
> >>
> >
> > +1 (non-binding)
> >
> > - Nate
> > ==
> > Vice President, Apache Cassandra
> > ASF Member
>
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Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
Posted by Dinesh Joshi <dj...@apache.org>.
+1
Dinesh
> On May 5, 2019, at 1:09 PM, Nate McCall <zz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I propose that ComDev submmit the following statement to the board:
>>
>> "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
>> committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be
>> diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF formulate a
>> strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC
>> likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in which
>> ComDev can support our progress in these areas."
>>
>> Here's my +1.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Myrle
>> PMC Member, Apache Community Development
>>
>
> +1 (non-binding)
>
> - Nate
> ==
> Vice President, Apache Cassandra
> ASF Member
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Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
Posted by Nate McCall <zz...@gmail.com>.
> I propose that ComDev submmit the following statement to the board:
>
> "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
> committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be
> diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF formulate a
> strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC
> likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in which
> ComDev can support our progress in these areas."
>
> Here's my +1.
>
> Best Regards,
> Myrle
> PMC Member, Apache Community Development
>
+1 (non-binding)
- Nate
==
Vice President, Apache Cassandra
ASF Member
Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
Posted by Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org>.
Hi Steph,
Great to see you on the list! We've created a new mailing list for this:
Just send an email to diversity-subscribe@apache.org. Join us! Introduce
yourself! It's a public mailing list, so you can see the work we're
already doing. One of the things you'll find there is a proposal for the
board to create a D&I president's committee. The board will be voting on
it at the May 15th board meeting.
My proposal here is intended to gauge comdev's position on it to inform
that decision. I'll be capturing binding and non-binding votes when I
close the vote at the end of the week, so feel free to give your own +1 or
-1 on this!
Best Regards,
Myrle
On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 12:19 AM Steph van Schalkwyk <sv...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Myrle
> I have been skulking (is that the right word?) on these threads since last
> year. I'd be very interested to help where I can on the diversity front.
> Mit freundlichen Gruessen,
> Steph
>
>
> +1.314.452.2896 (Tel/SMS)
>
>
> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 5:07 PM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > I propose that ComDev submmit the following statement to the board:
> >
> > "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
> > committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be
> > diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF formulate a
> > strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC
> > likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in which
> > ComDev can support our progress in these areas."
> >
> > Here's my +1.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Myrle
> > PMC Member, Apache Community Development
> >
>
Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
Posted by Steph van Schalkwyk <sv...@gmail.com>.
Hi Myrle
I have been skulking (is that the right word?) on these threads since last
year. I'd be very interested to help where I can on the diversity front.
Mit freundlichen Gruessen,
Steph
+1.314.452.2896 (Tel/SMS)
On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 5:07 PM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> I propose that ComDev submmit the following statement to the board:
>
> "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
> committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be
> diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF formulate a
> strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC
> likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in which
> ComDev can support our progress in these areas."
>
> Here's my +1.
>
> Best Regards,
> Myrle
> PMC Member, Apache Community Development
>
Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
Posted by Danny Angus <da...@gmail.com>.
+1
On Sat, 4 May 2019, 11:07 pm Myrle Krantz, <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> I propose that ComDev submmit the following statement to the board:
>
> "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
> committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be
> diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF formulate a
> strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC
> likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in which
> ComDev can support our progress in these areas."
>
> Here's my +1.
>
> Best Regards,
> Myrle
> PMC Member, Apache Community Development
>
Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
I too believe this to be part of ComDev's charter, but it is clear that we
have done little to address it since the formation of this PMC. So indeed
perhaps it is the time to try something new.
+1 to that something new although I remain ambivalent to what specific form
this committee/pmc/thingy should take.
On Mon, May 6, 2019, 06:55 Ulrich Stärk <ul...@apache.org> wrote:
> +0
>
> not sure if a president's committee is the best way of getting this done
> or whether it would be
> better to have it as part of comdev. But better do something than nothing
> at all. Plus, we can fix
> stuff later so I'll leave it to those wanting to drive it to figure it out.
>
> Uli
>
> On 05.05.19 00:06, Myrle Krantz wrote:
> > I propose that ComDev submmit the following statement to the board:
> >
> > "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
> > committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be
> > diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF formulate a
> > strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC
> > likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in which
> > ComDev can support our progress in these areas."
> >
> > Here's my +1.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Myrle
> > PMC Member, Apache Community Development
> >
>
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Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
Posted by Ulrich Stärk <ul...@apache.org>.
+0
not sure if a president's committee is the best way of getting this done or whether it would be
better to have it as part of comdev. But better do something than nothing at all. Plus, we can fix
stuff later so I'll leave it to those wanting to drive it to figure it out.
Uli
On 05.05.19 00:06, Myrle Krantz wrote:
> I propose that ComDev submmit the following statement to the board:
>
> "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
> committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be
> diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF formulate a
> strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC
> likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in which
> ComDev can support our progress in these areas."
>
> Here's my +1.
>
> Best Regards,
> Myrle
> PMC Member, Apache Community Development
>
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Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
Posted by Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org>.
+1
On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 12:47 PM Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1 on trying something new and separating this out. And as Bertrand
> mentions +1 for leaving it up to the Board to decide what type of committee
> structure they would like to see in place.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
> On 2019/05/06 07:33:13, Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 12:07 AM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > ..."The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
> > > committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be
> > > diverse and welcoming places...
> >
> > +1, though I would leave it to the Board to decide which form of
> > committee is best.
> >
> > -Bertrand
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Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
Posted by Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>.
+1 on trying something new and separating this out. And as Bertrand mentions +1 for leaving it up to the Board to decide what type of committee structure they would like to see in place.
Thanks
Sharan
On 2019/05/06 07:33:13, Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 12:07 AM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> > ..."The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
> > committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be
> > diverse and welcoming places...
>
> +1, though I would leave it to the Board to decide which form of
> committee is best.
>
> -Bertrand
>
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Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 12:07 AM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> ..."The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
> committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be
> diverse and welcoming places...
+1, though I would leave it to the Board to decide which form of
committee is best.
-Bertrand
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Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
Posted by Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org>.
My apologies Kenneth. I'm not sure how I missed you.
Best,
Myrle
On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 9:36 AM Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
> I cast a +1 (non-binding) and (* on D&I resolution) but I am not listed
> below. Just for the record should someone navigate to this thread.
>
> Kenn
>
> *From: *Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org>
> *Date: *Thu, May 9, 2019 at 10:51 PM
> *To: * <de...@community.apache.org>
>
> The measure passes. I will place the following text on the board agenda:
> >
> > "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
> > committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be
> > diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF formulate a
> > strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC
> > likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in which
> > ComDev can support our progress in these areas."
> >
> > The vote results are as follows:
> >
> > (The * indicate someone who is listed in the D&I proposal.)
> > (The - indicate someone who made the caveat that the board should decide
> > the committee form or someone who is ambivalent about committee form.)
> >
> > +1, Binding (8)
> > Myrle Krantz *
> > Shane Curcuru *
> > Ross Gardler *
> > Gris Cuevas *
> > Bertrand Delacretaz *-
> > Oliver Heintz
> > Sharan Foga -
> > Rich Bowen *-
> >
> > +1, Non-binding (8)
> > Naomi Slater *
> > Joan Touzet *
> > Awasum Yannick
> > Pierre Smits
> > Jacques Le Roux
> > Nate McCall
> > Dinesh Joshi *
> > Kevin McGrail *-
> >
> > -1, Non-binding (1)
> > Tim Williams
> >
> > Other, Binding (2)
> >
> > Ulrich Stärk
> > "+0. not sure if a president's committee is the best way of getting this
> > done or whether it would be
> > better to have it as part of ComDev. But better do something than nothing
> > at all. Plus, we can fix
> > stuff later so I'll leave it to those wanting to drive it to figure it
> > out."
> >
> > Jim Jagielski
> > "I am +1 on the spin out; I am -1 on ComDev specifying a President's cmmt
> > as the form of the spin out."
> >
> > For the record:
> > Proposed text for the resolution was made available for discussion on
> April
> > 30th here:
> >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/b985c0a7c00bf8bc7239721b233f3fc76e49a9e8e5809b8c02cd5f7d@%3Cdev.community.apache.org%3E
> >
> > Separate discussion of the committee form was started here on May 1st.
> The
> > last post on that thread also occurred on May 1st.
> >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/460bb18a855a1682a4ccab35b8c7d1a5bc9830ce394be28cb4f82de2@%3Cdev.community.apache.org%3E
> > One person declined to participate, the rest seemed generally in favor
> of a
> > president's committee.
> >
> > I explicitly stated that I would delay the vote on this measure until the
> > discussion about committee form had completed, making it clear to the PMC
> > that this vote was also about the form of the committee:
> >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/fecbfbd78dad49325ba036a9ea10d2fbf9bf804a6abce11c3054b7e0@%3Cprivate.community.apache.org%3E
> >
> > I started the vote on May 5th, 3 days after the discussion on committee
> > form completed. I'm closing it now on May 10th (5 days later). There
> was
> > wide ranging and extensive discussion in the month of April, and
> > considerable time to participate in the more targeted discussion at the
> > beginning of May.
> >
> > I am posting these results to both comdev and board, because the level of
> > consensus w.r.t committee form has been a topic on board.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Myrle
> > PMC Member, Apache Community Development
> >
> > On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 6:40 PM Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I'm +1 [non-binding] for splitting D&I from ComDev off into it's own
> > > committee/PMC/initiative/etc. It hasn't been done well under comdev
> and
> > > it's time to give it a shot on it's own.
> > >
> > > -KAM
> > >
> > > On 5/8/2019 10:48 AM, Myrle Krantz wrote:
> > > > FYI all:
> > > >
> > > > I'm going to call the vote on Friday morning (CET). If it passes,
> I'll
> > > > also add it to the board agenda at that time. I ask that everyone
> who
> > > > wants to participate do so by then.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > Myrle
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 1:53 PM Tim Williams <tw...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> -1... it's completely unnecessary (as the work could easily be done
> > > under
> > > >> the CommDev banner) and gives the sense of "action" towards a cause
> > > without
> > > >> actually solving any real problem. Ironically, I predict it will
> > > fracture
> > > >> the community and have the effect of removing diversity of views on
> > this
> > > >> very subject - creating an echo-chamber. It'll pass though, so best
> > > >> wishes...
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> --tim
> > > >>
> > > >> On 2019/05/04 22:06:47, Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >>> I propose that ComDev submmit the following statement to the board:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
> > > >>> committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts
> to
> > be
> > > >>> diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF
> > > formulate a
> > > >>> strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev
> PMC
> > > >>> likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in
> > > which
> > > >>> ComDev can support our progress in these areas."
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Here's my +1.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Best Regards,
> > > >>> Myrle
> > > >>> PMC Member, Apache Community Development
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > > --
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> > > Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> > >
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> > >
> >
>
Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
Posted by Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org>.
I cast a +1 (non-binding) and (* on D&I resolution) but I am not listed
below. Just for the record should someone navigate to this thread.
Kenn
*From: *Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org>
*Date: *Thu, May 9, 2019 at 10:51 PM
*To: * <de...@community.apache.org>
The measure passes. I will place the following text on the board agenda:
>
> "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
> committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be
> diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF formulate a
> strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC
> likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in which
> ComDev can support our progress in these areas."
>
> The vote results are as follows:
>
> (The * indicate someone who is listed in the D&I proposal.)
> (The - indicate someone who made the caveat that the board should decide
> the committee form or someone who is ambivalent about committee form.)
>
> +1, Binding (8)
> Myrle Krantz *
> Shane Curcuru *
> Ross Gardler *
> Gris Cuevas *
> Bertrand Delacretaz *-
> Oliver Heintz
> Sharan Foga -
> Rich Bowen *-
>
> +1, Non-binding (8)
> Naomi Slater *
> Joan Touzet *
> Awasum Yannick
> Pierre Smits
> Jacques Le Roux
> Nate McCall
> Dinesh Joshi *
> Kevin McGrail *-
>
> -1, Non-binding (1)
> Tim Williams
>
> Other, Binding (2)
>
> Ulrich Stärk
> "+0. not sure if a president's committee is the best way of getting this
> done or whether it would be
> better to have it as part of ComDev. But better do something than nothing
> at all. Plus, we can fix
> stuff later so I'll leave it to those wanting to drive it to figure it
> out."
>
> Jim Jagielski
> "I am +1 on the spin out; I am -1 on ComDev specifying a President's cmmt
> as the form of the spin out."
>
> For the record:
> Proposed text for the resolution was made available for discussion on April
> 30th here:
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/b985c0a7c00bf8bc7239721b233f3fc76e49a9e8e5809b8c02cd5f7d@%3Cdev.community.apache.org%3E
>
> Separate discussion of the committee form was started here on May 1st. The
> last post on that thread also occurred on May 1st.
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/460bb18a855a1682a4ccab35b8c7d1a5bc9830ce394be28cb4f82de2@%3Cdev.community.apache.org%3E
> One person declined to participate, the rest seemed generally in favor of a
> president's committee.
>
> I explicitly stated that I would delay the vote on this measure until the
> discussion about committee form had completed, making it clear to the PMC
> that this vote was also about the form of the committee:
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/fecbfbd78dad49325ba036a9ea10d2fbf9bf804a6abce11c3054b7e0@%3Cprivate.community.apache.org%3E
>
> I started the vote on May 5th, 3 days after the discussion on committee
> form completed. I'm closing it now on May 10th (5 days later). There was
> wide ranging and extensive discussion in the month of April, and
> considerable time to participate in the more targeted discussion at the
> beginning of May.
>
> I am posting these results to both comdev and board, because the level of
> consensus w.r.t committee form has been a topic on board.
>
> Best Regards,
> Myrle
> PMC Member, Apache Community Development
>
> On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 6:40 PM Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm +1 [non-binding] for splitting D&I from ComDev off into it's own
> > committee/PMC/initiative/etc. It hasn't been done well under comdev and
> > it's time to give it a shot on it's own.
> >
> > -KAM
> >
> > On 5/8/2019 10:48 AM, Myrle Krantz wrote:
> > > FYI all:
> > >
> > > I'm going to call the vote on Friday morning (CET). If it passes, I'll
> > > also add it to the board agenda at that time. I ask that everyone who
> > > wants to participate do so by then.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Myrle
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 1:53 PM Tim Williams <tw...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> -1... it's completely unnecessary (as the work could easily be done
> > under
> > >> the CommDev banner) and gives the sense of "action" towards a cause
> > without
> > >> actually solving any real problem. Ironically, I predict it will
> > fracture
> > >> the community and have the effect of removing diversity of views on
> this
> > >> very subject - creating an echo-chamber. It'll pass though, so best
> > >> wishes...
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> --tim
> > >>
> > >> On 2019/05/04 22:06:47, Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>> I propose that ComDev submmit the following statement to the board:
> > >>>
> > >>> "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
> > >>> committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to
> be
> > >>> diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF
> > formulate a
> > >>> strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC
> > >>> likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in
> > which
> > >>> ComDev can support our progress in these areas."
> > >>>
> > >>> Here's my +1.
> > >>>
> > >>> Best Regards,
> > >>> Myrle
> > >>> PMC Member, Apache Community Development
> > >>>
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
> > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> > --
> > Kevin A. McGrail
> > Member, Apache Software Foundation
> > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
> >
> >
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> >
> >
>
Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
Posted by Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org>.
The measure passes. I will place the following text on the board agenda:
"The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be
diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF formulate a
strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC
likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in which
ComDev can support our progress in these areas."
The vote results are as follows:
(The * indicate someone who is listed in the D&I proposal.)
(The - indicate someone who made the caveat that the board should decide
the committee form or someone who is ambivalent about committee form.)
+1, Binding (8)
Myrle Krantz *
Shane Curcuru *
Ross Gardler *
Gris Cuevas *
Bertrand Delacretaz *-
Oliver Heintz
Sharan Foga -
Rich Bowen *-
+1, Non-binding (8)
Naomi Slater *
Joan Touzet *
Awasum Yannick
Pierre Smits
Jacques Le Roux
Nate McCall
Dinesh Joshi *
Kevin McGrail *-
-1, Non-binding (1)
Tim Williams
Other, Binding (2)
Ulrich Stärk
"+0. not sure if a president's committee is the best way of getting this
done or whether it would be
better to have it as part of ComDev. But better do something than nothing
at all. Plus, we can fix
stuff later so I'll leave it to those wanting to drive it to figure it out."
Jim Jagielski
"I am +1 on the spin out; I am -1 on ComDev specifying a President's cmmt
as the form of the spin out."
For the record:
Proposed text for the resolution was made available for discussion on April
30th here:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/b985c0a7c00bf8bc7239721b233f3fc76e49a9e8e5809b8c02cd5f7d@%3Cdev.community.apache.org%3E
Separate discussion of the committee form was started here on May 1st. The
last post on that thread also occurred on May 1st.
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/460bb18a855a1682a4ccab35b8c7d1a5bc9830ce394be28cb4f82de2@%3Cdev.community.apache.org%3E
One person declined to participate, the rest seemed generally in favor of a
president's committee.
I explicitly stated that I would delay the vote on this measure until the
discussion about committee form had completed, making it clear to the PMC
that this vote was also about the form of the committee:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/fecbfbd78dad49325ba036a9ea10d2fbf9bf804a6abce11c3054b7e0@%3Cprivate.community.apache.org%3E
I started the vote on May 5th, 3 days after the discussion on committee
form completed. I'm closing it now on May 10th (5 days later). There was
wide ranging and extensive discussion in the month of April, and
considerable time to participate in the more targeted discussion at the
beginning of May.
I am posting these results to both comdev and board, because the level of
consensus w.r.t committee form has been a topic on board.
Best Regards,
Myrle
PMC Member, Apache Community Development
On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 6:40 PM Kevin A. McGrail <km...@apache.org> wrote:
> I'm +1 [non-binding] for splitting D&I from ComDev off into it's own
> committee/PMC/initiative/etc. It hasn't been done well under comdev and
> it's time to give it a shot on it's own.
>
> -KAM
>
> On 5/8/2019 10:48 AM, Myrle Krantz wrote:
> > FYI all:
> >
> > I'm going to call the vote on Friday morning (CET). If it passes, I'll
> > also add it to the board agenda at that time. I ask that everyone who
> > wants to participate do so by then.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Myrle
> >
> > On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 1:53 PM Tim Williams <tw...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >> -1... it's completely unnecessary (as the work could easily be done
> under
> >> the CommDev banner) and gives the sense of "action" towards a cause
> without
> >> actually solving any real problem. Ironically, I predict it will
> fracture
> >> the community and have the effect of removing diversity of views on this
> >> very subject - creating an echo-chamber. It'll pass though, so best
> >> wishes...
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> --tim
> >>
> >> On 2019/05/04 22:06:47, Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>> I propose that ComDev submmit the following statement to the board:
> >>>
> >>> "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
> >>> committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be
> >>> diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF
> formulate a
> >>> strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC
> >>> likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in
> which
> >>> ComDev can support our progress in these areas."
> >>>
> >>> Here's my +1.
> >>>
> >>> Best Regards,
> >>> Myrle
> >>> PMC Member, Apache Community Development
> >>>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
> >>
> >>
>
> --
> Kevin A. McGrail
> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171
>
>
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Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
Posted by "Kevin A. McGrail" <km...@apache.org>.
I'm +1 [non-binding] for splitting D&I from ComDev off into it's own
committee/PMC/initiative/etc. It hasn't been done well under comdev and
it's time to give it a shot on it's own.
-KAM
On 5/8/2019 10:48 AM, Myrle Krantz wrote:
> FYI all:
>
> I'm going to call the vote on Friday morning (CET). If it passes, I'll
> also add it to the board agenda at that time. I ask that everyone who
> wants to participate do so by then.
>
> Best Regards,
> Myrle
>
> On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 1:53 PM Tim Williams <tw...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> -1... it's completely unnecessary (as the work could easily be done under
>> the CommDev banner) and gives the sense of "action" towards a cause without
>> actually solving any real problem. Ironically, I predict it will fracture
>> the community and have the effect of removing diversity of views on this
>> very subject - creating an echo-chamber. It'll pass though, so best
>> wishes...
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --tim
>>
>> On 2019/05/04 22:06:47, Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> I propose that ComDev submmit the following statement to the board:
>>>
>>> "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
>>> committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be
>>> diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF formulate a
>>> strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC
>>> likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in which
>>> ComDev can support our progress in these areas."
>>>
>>> Here's my +1.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Myrle
>>> PMC Member, Apache Community Development
>>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>
>>
--
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Member, Apache Software Foundation
Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
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Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
Posted by Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org>.
FYI all:
I'm going to call the vote on Friday morning (CET). If it passes, I'll
also add it to the board agenda at that time. I ask that everyone who
wants to participate do so by then.
Best Regards,
Myrle
On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 1:53 PM Tim Williams <tw...@apache.org> wrote:
> -1... it's completely unnecessary (as the work could easily be done under
> the CommDev banner) and gives the sense of "action" towards a cause without
> actually solving any real problem. Ironically, I predict it will fracture
> the community and have the effect of removing diversity of views on this
> very subject - creating an echo-chamber. It'll pass though, so best
> wishes...
>
> Thanks,
> --tim
>
> On 2019/05/04 22:06:47, Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> > I propose that ComDev submmit the following statement to the board:
> >
> > "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
> > committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be
> > diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF formulate a
> > strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC
> > likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in which
> > ComDev can support our progress in these areas."
> >
> > Here's my +1.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Myrle
> > PMC Member, Apache Community Development
> >
>
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Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
Posted by Tim Williams <tw...@apache.org>.
-1... it's completely unnecessary (as the work could easily be done under the CommDev banner) and gives the sense of "action" towards a cause without actually solving any real problem. Ironically, I predict it will fracture the community and have the effect of removing diversity of views on this very subject - creating an echo-chamber. It'll pass though, so best wishes...
Thanks,
--tim
On 2019/05/04 22:06:47, Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> I propose that ComDev submmit the following statement to the board:
>
> "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
> committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be
> diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF formulate a
> strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC
> likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in which
> ComDev can support our progress in these areas."
>
> Here's my +1.
>
> Best Regards,
> Myrle
> PMC Member, Apache Community Development
>
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Re: [VOTE] ComDev supports formation of D&I committee
Posted by Olivier Heintz <ho...@apache.org>.
+1
Le 05/05/2019 à 00:06, Myrle Krantz a écrit :
> I propose that ComDev submmit the following statement to the board:
>
> "The ComDev PMC hereby requests that the board create a President's
> committee tasked with supporting our communities in their efforts to be
> diverse and welcoming places, and tasked with helping the ASF formulate a
> strategy to improve our diversity and inclusiveness. The ComDev PMC
> likewise formally requests that the new committee look for ways in which
> ComDev can support our progress in these areas."
>
> Here's my +1.
>
> Best Regards,
> Myrle
> PMC Member, Apache Community Development
>
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