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Posted to dev@geronimo.apache.org by Joe Bohn <jo...@earthlink.net> on 2008/04/23 21:19:24 UTC

[DISCUSS] Geronimo Server 2.1.1 Release

Discussion thread for the Geronimo 2.1.1 Release vote.


Re: [DISCUSS] Geronimo Server 2.1.1 Release

Posted by David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com>.
On Apr 24, 2008, at 8:47 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:

>
> On Apr 24, 2008, at 2:31 AM, Jason Dillon wrote:
>
>> Um, this is really where they belong those, since they are specific  
>> to Geronimo.  But it should be possible to generate the resources w/ 
>> o license details... but probably have to use the new archetype-ng  
>> stuff, which is on my list todo actually...
>
> I agree that this is where they belong.
>
> I'm not sure I understand Dave's issue. If the files were  
> substantially changed to be non-Geronimo specific archetypes, then  
> IMO, there'd have been enough change that they prolly would no  
> longer be covered under our license...

I guess my thinking only applies to the plugin archetype.  Lets say  
someone  writes some gbeans and comes up with a plugin using them that  
doesn't include any apache code.  Suppose they want to license the  
plugin under say lgpl.  With the apache license headers in the  
archetype templates, do they have to include an Apache notice with  
their plugin?

-- compiled plugin: maybe, the archetype has a bunch of hints about  
how to get the car-maven-plugin to generate the geronimo-plugin.xml,  
which goes into the plugin
-- source: yes, the generated pom will have apache license headers in  
it.

Is this desirable?

thanks
david jencks

>
>
> --kevan
>


Re: [DISCUSS] Geronimo Server 2.1.1 Release

Posted by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>.
On Apr 24, 2008, at 2:31 AM, Jason Dillon wrote:

> Um, this is really where they belong those, since they are specific  
> to Geronimo.  But it should be possible to generate the resources w/ 
> o license details... but probably have to use the new archetype-ng  
> stuff, which is on my list todo actually...

I agree that this is where they belong.

I'm not sure I understand Dave's issue. If the files were  
substantially changed to be non-Geronimo specific archetypes, then  
IMO, there'd have been enough change that they prolly would no longer  
be covered under our license...

--kevan


Re: [DISCUSS] Geronimo Server 2.1.1 Release

Posted by Jason Dillon <ja...@planet57.com>.
Um, this is really where they belong those, since they are specific to  
Geronimo.  But it should be possible to generate the resources w/o  
license details... but probably have to use the new archetype-ng  
stuff, which is on my list todo actually...

--jason


On Apr 24, 2008, at 5:23 AM, David Jencks wrote:

> Maybe apache is not the place for these archetypes.    I don't want  
> users of these archetypes to have to include a NOTICE file crediting  
> apache simply because they kick-started their project by using these  
> archetypes before doing all the customization to actually make them  
> work.
>
> Should I move them to a codehaus mojo?
>
> thanks
> david jencks
>
> On Apr 23, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Kevan Miller wrote:
>
>>
>> On Apr 23, 2008, at 5:15 PM, Joe Bohn wrote:
>>
>>> Kevan Miller wrote:
>>>> On Apr 23, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Joe Bohn wrote:
>>>>> Discussion thread for the Geronimo 2.1.1 Release vote.
>>>>>
>>>> We should make a habit of cc:'ing user list on release votes.
>>>> Looking things over now. Afraid that there are some source files  
>>>> missing src license headers :-(
>>>> --kevan
>>>
>>> Thanks Kevan.  I'm anxiously awaiting your list.
>>>
>>> I will copy the user list on the next rev of the vote.
>>
>> svn ci --message "Update files missing src license headers. Most  
>> were added post-2.1.0. One was a reverted change post-2.1.0."
>> Sending        2.1/buildsupport/geronimo-assembly-archetype/pom.xml
>> Sending        2.1/buildsupport/geronimo-assembly-archetype/src/ 
>> main/resources/META-INF/maven/archetype.xml
>> Sending        2.1/buildsupport/geronimo-assembly-archetype/src/ 
>> main/resources/archetype-resources/pom.sample.xml
>> Sending        2.1/buildsupport/geronimo-assembly-archetype/src/ 
>> main/resources/archetype-resources/pom.xml
>> Sending        2.1/buildsupport/geronimo-plugin-archetype/src/main/ 
>> resources/META-INF/maven/archetype.xml
>> Sending        2.1/buildsupport/geronimo-plugin-archetype/src/main/ 
>> resources/archetype-resources/pom.sample.xml
>> Sending        2.1/buildsupport/geronimo-plugin-archetype/src/main/ 
>> resources/archetype-resources/pom.xml
>> Sending        2.1/framework/modules/geronimo-commands/src/test/ 
>> resources/etc/aliases.xml
>> Sending        2.1/plugins/monitoring/mconsole-ear/src/main/ 
>> resources/MonitoringClientDB.sql
>> Transmitting file data .........
>> Committed revision 651078.
>>
>> 'merge -r 651077:651078 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/server/branches/2.1 
>>  .' should do the trick...
>>
>> --kevan
>


Re: [DISCUSS] Geronimo Server 2.1.1 Release

Posted by David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com>.
Maybe apache is not the place for these archetypes.    I don't want  
users of these archetypes to have to include a NOTICE file crediting  
apache simply because they kick-started their project by using these  
archetypes before doing all the customization to actually make them  
work.

Should I move them to a codehaus mojo?

thanks
david jencks

On Apr 23, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Kevan Miller wrote:

>
> On Apr 23, 2008, at 5:15 PM, Joe Bohn wrote:
>
>> Kevan Miller wrote:
>>> On Apr 23, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Joe Bohn wrote:
>>>> Discussion thread for the Geronimo 2.1.1 Release vote.
>>>>
>>> We should make a habit of cc:'ing user list on release votes.
>>> Looking things over now. Afraid that there are some source files  
>>> missing src license headers :-(
>>> --kevan
>>
>> Thanks Kevan.  I'm anxiously awaiting your list.
>>
>> I will copy the user list on the next rev of the vote.
>
> svn ci --message "Update files missing src license headers. Most  
> were added post-2.1.0. One was a reverted change post-2.1.0."
> Sending        2.1/buildsupport/geronimo-assembly-archetype/pom.xml
> Sending        2.1/buildsupport/geronimo-assembly-archetype/src/main/ 
> resources/META-INF/maven/archetype.xml
> Sending        2.1/buildsupport/geronimo-assembly-archetype/src/main/ 
> resources/archetype-resources/pom.sample.xml
> Sending        2.1/buildsupport/geronimo-assembly-archetype/src/main/ 
> resources/archetype-resources/pom.xml
> Sending        2.1/buildsupport/geronimo-plugin-archetype/src/main/ 
> resources/META-INF/maven/archetype.xml
> Sending        2.1/buildsupport/geronimo-plugin-archetype/src/main/ 
> resources/archetype-resources/pom.sample.xml
> Sending        2.1/buildsupport/geronimo-plugin-archetype/src/main/ 
> resources/archetype-resources/pom.xml
> Sending        2.1/framework/modules/geronimo-commands/src/test/ 
> resources/etc/aliases.xml
> Sending        2.1/plugins/monitoring/mconsole-ear/src/main/ 
> resources/MonitoringClientDB.sql
> Transmitting file data .........
> Committed revision 651078.
>
> 'merge -r 651077:651078 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/server/branches/2.1 
>  .' should do the trick...
>
> --kevan


Re: [DISCUSS] Geronimo Server 2.1.1 Release

Posted by Joe Bohn <jo...@earthlink.net>.
Kevan Miller wrote:
> 
> On Apr 23, 2008, at 5:15 PM, Joe Bohn wrote:
> 
>> Kevan Miller wrote:
>>> On Apr 23, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Joe Bohn wrote:
>>>> Discussion thread for the Geronimo 2.1.1 Release vote.
>>>>
>>> We should make a habit of cc:'ing user list on release votes.
>>> Looking things over now. Afraid that there are some source files 
>>> missing src license headers :-(
>>> --kevan
>>
>> Thanks Kevan.  I'm anxiously awaiting your list.
>>
>> I will copy the user list on the next rev of the vote.
> 
> svn ci --message "Update files missing src license headers. Most were 
> added post-2.1.0. One was a reverted change post-2.1.0."
> Sending        2.1/buildsupport/geronimo-assembly-archetype/pom.xml
> Sending        
> 2.1/buildsupport/geronimo-assembly-archetype/src/main/resources/META-INF/maven/archetype.xml 
> 
> Sending        
> 2.1/buildsupport/geronimo-assembly-archetype/src/main/resources/archetype-resources/pom.sample.xml 
> 
> Sending        
> 2.1/buildsupport/geronimo-assembly-archetype/src/main/resources/archetype-resources/pom.xml 
> 
> Sending        
> 2.1/buildsupport/geronimo-plugin-archetype/src/main/resources/META-INF/maven/archetype.xml 
> 
> Sending        
> 2.1/buildsupport/geronimo-plugin-archetype/src/main/resources/archetype-resources/pom.sample.xml 
> 
> Sending        
> 2.1/buildsupport/geronimo-plugin-archetype/src/main/resources/archetype-resources/pom.xml 
> 
> Sending        
> 2.1/framework/modules/geronimo-commands/src/test/resources/etc/aliases.xml
> Sending        
> 2.1/plugins/monitoring/mconsole-ear/src/main/resources/MonitoringClientDB.sql 
> 
> Transmitting file data .........
> Committed revision 651078.
> 
> 'merge -r 651077:651078 
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/server/branches/2.1 .' should 
> do the trick...

Thanks Kevan.   Already integrated into the 2.1.1 branch.  I'll rebuild, 
generate new images, src, etc ... and start a new vote thread.

Joe

Re: [DISCUSS] Geronimo Server 2.1.1 Release

Posted by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>.
On Apr 23, 2008, at 5:15 PM, Joe Bohn wrote:

> Kevan Miller wrote:
>> On Apr 23, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Joe Bohn wrote:
>>> Discussion thread for the Geronimo 2.1.1 Release vote.
>>>
>> We should make a habit of cc:'ing user list on release votes.
>> Looking things over now. Afraid that there are some source files  
>> missing src license headers :-(
>> --kevan
>
> Thanks Kevan.  I'm anxiously awaiting your list.
>
> I will copy the user list on the next rev of the vote.

svn ci --message "Update files missing src license headers. Most were  
added post-2.1.0. One was a reverted change post-2.1.0."
Sending        2.1/buildsupport/geronimo-assembly-archetype/pom.xml
Sending        2.1/buildsupport/geronimo-assembly-archetype/src/main/ 
resources/META-INF/maven/archetype.xml
Sending        2.1/buildsupport/geronimo-assembly-archetype/src/main/ 
resources/archetype-resources/pom.sample.xml
Sending        2.1/buildsupport/geronimo-assembly-archetype/src/main/ 
resources/archetype-resources/pom.xml
Sending        2.1/buildsupport/geronimo-plugin-archetype/src/main/ 
resources/META-INF/maven/archetype.xml
Sending        2.1/buildsupport/geronimo-plugin-archetype/src/main/ 
resources/archetype-resources/pom.sample.xml
Sending        2.1/buildsupport/geronimo-plugin-archetype/src/main/ 
resources/archetype-resources/pom.xml
Sending        2.1/framework/modules/geronimo-commands/src/test/ 
resources/etc/aliases.xml
Sending        2.1/plugins/monitoring/mconsole-ear/src/main/resources/ 
MonitoringClientDB.sql
Transmitting file data .........
Committed revision 651078.

'merge -r 651077:651078 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/server/branches/2.1 
  .' should do the trick...

--kevan 

Re: [DISCUSS] Geronimo Server 2.1.1 Release

Posted by Joe Bohn <jo...@earthlink.net>.
Kevan Miller wrote:
> 
> On Apr 23, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Joe Bohn wrote:
> 
>> Discussion thread for the Geronimo 2.1.1 Release vote.
>>
> 
> We should make a habit of cc:'ing user list on release votes.
> 
> Looking things over now. Afraid that there are some source files missing 
> src license headers :-(
> 
> --kevan

Thanks Kevan.  I'm anxiously awaiting your list.

I will copy the user list on the next rev of the vote.

Joe


Re: [DISCUSS] Geronimo Server 2.1.1 Release

Posted by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>.
On Apr 23, 2008, at 5:17 PM, Jason Dillon wrote:

> Barf... I'll see if I can make the ianal-maven-plugin check for this  
> ASAP...

That'd be good. Was going to add that. However, I think a release  
manager should still run RAT and make the report available for  
inspection by reviewers. I've found problems that the maven plugin was  
not identifying...

--kevan

Re: [DISCUSS] Geronimo Server 2.1.1 Release

Posted by Jason Dillon <ja...@planet57.com>.
Barf... I'll see if I can make the ianal-maven-plugin check for this  
ASAP...

--jason


On Apr 24, 2008, at 4:04 AM, Kevan Miller wrote:

>
> On Apr 23, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Joe Bohn wrote:
>
>> Discussion thread for the Geronimo 2.1.1 Release vote.
>>
>
> We should make a habit of cc:'ing user list on release votes.
>
> Looking things over now. Afraid that there are some source files  
> missing src license headers :-(
>
> --kevan


Re: [DISCUSS] Geronimo Server 2.1.1 Release

Posted by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>.
On Apr 23, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Joe Bohn wrote:

> Discussion thread for the Geronimo 2.1.1 Release vote.
>

We should make a habit of cc:'ing user list on release votes.

Looking things over now. Afraid that there are some source files  
missing src license headers :-(

--kevan