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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Martin Sebor <se...@roguewave.com> on 2005/08/01 21:18:56 UTC
Re: [Fwd: Question about stdcxx development snapshots]
Leo Simons wrote:
> So, ehm, one more time,
>
> Could you peeps *please* stop using pmc@incubator.apache.org for questions
> like this? Development at apache happens in public.
> general@incubator.apache.org is the e-mail address to use for questions like
> this. Please subscribe to it, read through some of its archives, and see how
> "things are done". PMC mailing lists (and similarly PPMC mailing lists) are
> for very sensitive issues only.
I apologize for using the wrong list(s). My only excuse is that we
CC'd stdcxx-dev on our original question but got no responses. I was
misled by the Releases section of the Incubation Policy document,
specifically this sentence:
Podlings in Incubation SHALL NOT perform any releases of software
without the explicit approval of the Incubator PMC.
into believing that pmc@incubator.apache.org was the list where we
should turn with questions/requests regarding releases from the
incubator.
FWIW, I am subscribed to the incubator mailing list and have read
some (although obviously not all) of the past posts. I have been
using http://mail-archives.apache.org/ as the interface to browse
the archives. I don't see any way to search through them, though.
Is there a different page that I should use?
Thanks
Martin
>
> Answering your question,
>
> yes, any tarball or zipfile or other distribution you push out to users
> falls under the policy referenced below. Apache is extremely proud and
> protective of and confident in the quality of the software it releases, and
> you should be too. Review is hence a necessary part of that process. You can
> find examples of asking for approval in the general@incubator mailing list
> archives, for example the Derby project made a few releases under
> incubation.
>
> Hmm. I tend to consider "release early, release often" a good thing. Maybe
> we'll change policy if it proves too cumbersome. But we'll stick with it
> until that's actually the case :-)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Leo
>
> On 01-08-2005 17:46, "Martin Sebor" <se...@roguewave.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Could someone kindly clarify for us the process of obtaining
>>an approval to publish development snapshots of the stdcxx
>>podling? The details of what we'd like to do are in the email
>>below.
>>
>>Thanks in advance!
>>Martin
>>
>>-------- Original Message --------
>>Subject: Question about stdcxx development snapshots
>>Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:24:10 -0600
>>From: Amit Jindal <ji...@roguewave.com>
>>To: stdcxx-ppmc@incubator.apache.org
>>CC: stdcxx-dev@incubator.apache.org, Martin Sebor <se...@roguewave.com>
>>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I have a question about providing development snapshot of source code to
>>stdcxx users.
>>
>>What we would like to do is, make a snapshot of the initially
>>contributed stdcxx sources (revision 219596) available for download. (No
>>documentation in this tarball). Going forward, we would also like to
>>make snapshots available on a semi-regular basis (say once a month,
>>depending on how active the project will be).
>>
>>This is to increase interest in the project for users who do not want to
>>pull code from SVN and just want to give stdcxx a test drive.
>>
>>
>>However according to incubation guidelines:
>>http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Releases%0
>>D
>>We may not do releases without permission (and review).
>>
>>
>>Will such development snapshot be considered a release or are we allowed
>>to provide this to users of stdcxx project?
>>
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Amit Jindal
>>Rogue Wave Software, A QUOVADX(tm) Division
>
>
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Re: searchable mailing list archives
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
> >Martin Sebor wrote:
> >
> >>FWIW, I am subscribed to the incubator mailing list and have read
> >>some (although obviously not all) of the past posts. I have been
> >>using http://mail-archives.apache.org/ as the interface to browse
> >>the archives. I don't see any way to search through them, though.
> >>Is there a different page that I should use?
You could instead use a remote search service
such as those mentioned at
http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html
David
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Re: searchable mailing list archives
Posted by Henning Schmiedehausen <he...@apache.org>.
Thx.
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Re: searchable mailing list archives
Posted by Garrett Rooney <ro...@electricjellyfish.net>.
Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
> Where BTW do I find the sources to mod_mbox? ;-)
You can grab it from SVN at:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/mod_mbox/trunk/
-garrett
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RE: searchable mailing list archives
Posted by Henning Schmiedehausen <he...@apache.org>.
Where BTW do I find the sources to mod_mbox? ;-)
Regards
Henning
On Fri, 2005-08-05 at 11:32 -0400, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > While mod_mbox is ok for browsing[,] eyebrowse offers more
> > functionality (like searching, sorting by author e.g.)
>
> Supposedly, mod_mbox is being enhanced.
>
> > Where is the problem with eyebrowse? Noone looking after it?
>
> It has some problems, and since mod_mbox is being enhanced, we were going to
> see how that worked out.
>
> --- Noel
>
>
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RE: searchable mailing list archives
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
> While mod_mbox is ok for browsing[,] eyebrowse offers more
> functionality (like searching, sorting by author e.g.)
Supposedly, mod_mbox is being enhanced.
> Where is the problem with eyebrowse? Noone looking after it?
It has some problems, and since mod_mbox is being enhanced, we were going to
see how that worked out.
--- Noel
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Re: searchable mailing list archives
Posted by Henning Schmiedehausen <hp...@intermeta.de>.
He still got a point though. While mod_mbox is ok for browsing (however
the index seems to be breakable just like with eyebrowse, see e.g.
INFRA-480), eyebrowse offers more functionality (like searching, sorting
by author e.g.)
Where is the problem with eyebrowse? Noone looking after it?
Regards
Henning
On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 19:45 +0100, Upayavira wrote:
> Martin Sebor wrote:
> > Martin Sebor wrote:
> > ...
> >
> >> FWIW, I am subscribed to the incubator mailing list and have read
> >> some (although obviously not all) of the past posts. I have been
> >> using http://mail-archives.apache.org/ as the interface to browse
> >> the archives. I don't see any way to search through them, though.
> >> Is there a different page that I should use?
> >
> >
> > Responding to myself:
> >
> > Yes, there is. By accident I stumbled upon this searchable mailing
> > list archive:
> > http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listName=general@incubator.apache.org
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately, it's not listed on the ASF Mail Archives page that
> > I have been relying on (http://mail-archives.apache.org) or on the
> > Mailing Lists page (http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html).
> > Although to be fair, other searchable archives are listed on that
> > page.
>
> That system is deprecated. The mbox archive is taking over. Nagoya will
> be decommissioned at some point, and that eyebrowse system will be shut
> down, so don't rely upon it too much.
>
> Regards, Upayavira
>
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Re: searchable mailing list archives
Posted by Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk>.
Martin Sebor wrote:
> Martin Sebor wrote:
> ...
>
>> FWIW, I am subscribed to the incubator mailing list and have read
>> some (although obviously not all) of the past posts. I have been
>> using http://mail-archives.apache.org/ as the interface to browse
>> the archives. I don't see any way to search through them, though.
>> Is there a different page that I should use?
>
>
> Responding to myself:
>
> Yes, there is. By accident I stumbled upon this searchable mailing
> list archive:
> http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listName=general@incubator.apache.org
>
>
> Unfortunately, it's not listed on the ASF Mail Archives page that
> I have been relying on (http://mail-archives.apache.org) or on the
> Mailing Lists page (http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html).
> Although to be fair, other searchable archives are listed on that
> page.
That system is deprecated. The mbox archive is taking over. Nagoya will
be decommissioned at some point, and that eyebrowse system will be shut
down, so don't rely upon it too much.
Regards, Upayavira
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searchable mailing list archives (was: Re: [Fwd: Question about stdcxx
development snapshots])
Posted by Martin Sebor <se...@roguewave.com>.
Martin Sebor wrote:
...
> FWIW, I am subscribed to the incubator mailing list and have read
> some (although obviously not all) of the past posts. I have been
> using http://mail-archives.apache.org/ as the interface to browse
> the archives. I don't see any way to search through them, though.
> Is there a different page that I should use?
Responding to myself:
Yes, there is. By accident I stumbled upon this searchable mailing
list archive:
http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listName=general@incubator.apache.org
Unfortunately, it's not listed on the ASF Mail Archives page that
I have been relying on (http://mail-archives.apache.org) or on the
Mailing Lists page (http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html).
Although to be fair, other searchable archives are listed on that
page.
Martin
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