You are viewing a plain text version of this content. The canonical link for it is here.
Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> on 2012/12/20 00:42:26 UTC
Native lang, pootle information needs changes...
We have Native Language information on the project web site:
http://openoffice.apache.org/native-lang.htm
which also directs folks to a local Pootle User Guide on the wiki:
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Pootle_User_Guide
Unfortunately, the registration information from the Pootle User Guide is
no longer valid.
Is there someplace else they should be going? I know Juergen has been
handling most of these requests through the "dev" list. Should the Pootle
User Guide be changed to reflect that?
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK
"No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted."
--
Aesop
Re: Native lang, pootle information needs changes...
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 20/12/2012 janI wrote:
>>> http://openoffice.apache.org/translate.html
> We should however really change the wording of 6), today it sounds as if we
> do not care about reviewing the translations.
If it gives that impression, it must be changed. Note that the "review"
we are talking about there is the review of the PO files by someone
else, not the re-reading by the same translator or the QA that
translators will be make on the test builds.
> We should also add a specific point about review requirements.
Whatever we add, keep in mind the case of translation "teams" made by
one person only. We will still demand quality in that case, but we
cannot count on "peer review".
>> [Juergen] if all necessary information is available on
>> http://openoffice.apache.org/translate.html and should change the wiki
>> to point to this pages. Or we should simply update the wiki which is
>> easier to maintain and should link to this.
The "Tips for translators" section can surely be moved to the wiki. It
doesn't overlap much with the Pootle information there, since it
describes offline work.
>> Such info should contain tips and tricks what to do and what not, for
>> example never change id's or hid's or hrefs. Today it took me 2 hours to
>> fix many of these mistakes in a new prepared sdf file. The errors are in
>> the po files and we should try to minimize such problems.
These are definitely "Tips for translators", so let's just move the
section to the wiki and complete it (actually, point 4 already gives
some information on this).
Regards,
Andrea.
Re: Native lang, pootle information needs changes...
Posted by janI <ja...@apache.org>.
On 20 December 2012 10:53, Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12/20/12 9:30 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> > Kay Schenk wrote:
> >> We have Native Language information on the project web site:
> >> http://openoffice.apache.org/native-lang.htm
> >> which also directs folks to a local Pootle User Guide on the wiki:
> >> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Pootle_User_Guide ...
> >> Is there someplace else they should be going?
> >
> > Actually, the page is here
> > http://openoffice.apache.org/native-lang.html
> > and it definitely shouldn't point people to the Pootle User Guide but to
> > http://openoffice.apache.org/translate.html
>
We should however really change the wording of 6), today it sounds as if we
do not care about reviewing the translations. We should also add a specific
point about review requirements.
Or alternatively, have an open statement on our download page, saying
something like "all translations are 'as is', they have passed no QA
gate"...I wonder what the ASF release procedures likes such a way.
>
> we should check if all necessary information is available on
> http://openoffice.apache.org/translate.html and should change the wiki
> to point to this pages. Or we should simply update the wiki which is
> easier to maintain and should link to this.
>
> Information about the gsicheck
> (http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Gsicheck) for example is very useful as
> long as we have the sdf files.
>
Isnt that only for a very limited amount of people, and would be better
kept on a separate page.
>
> Such info should contain tips and tricks what to do and what not, for
> example never change id's or hid's or hrefs. Today it took me 2 hours to
> fix many of these mistakes in a new prepared sdf file. The errors are in
> the po files and we should try to minimize such problems.
>
+1 Super idea.
Jan.
>
> Juergen
>
Re: Native lang, pootle information needs changes...
Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 12/20/12 9:30 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> Kay Schenk wrote:
>> We have Native Language information on the project web site:
>> http://openoffice.apache.org/native-lang.htm
>> which also directs folks to a local Pootle User Guide on the wiki:
>> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Pootle_User_Guide ...
>> Is there someplace else they should be going?
>
> Actually, the page is here
> http://openoffice.apache.org/native-lang.html
> and it definitely shouldn't point people to the Pootle User Guide but to
> http://openoffice.apache.org/translate.html
we should check if all necessary information is available on
http://openoffice.apache.org/translate.html and should change the wiki
to point to this pages. Or we should simply update the wiki which is
easier to maintain and should link to this.
Information about the gsicheck
(http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Gsicheck) for example is very useful as
long as we have the sdf files.
Such info should contain tips and tricks what to do and what not, for
example never change id's or hid's or hrefs. Today it took me 2 hours to
fix many of these mistakes in a new prepared sdf file. The errors are in
the po files and we should try to minimize such problems.
Juergen
Re: Native lang, pootle information needs changes...
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Kay Schenk wrote:
> We have Native Language information on the project web site:
> http://openoffice.apache.org/native-lang.htm
> which also directs folks to a local Pootle User Guide on the wiki:
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Pootle_User_Guide ...
> Is there someplace else they should be going?
Actually, the page is here
http://openoffice.apache.org/native-lang.html
and it definitely shouldn't point people to the Pootle User Guide but to
http://openoffice.apache.org/translate.html
Regards,
Andrea.