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Posted to dev@cocoon.apache.org by Thorsten Scherler <th...@apache.org> on 2009/01/15 20:09:17 UTC
Please use our issue tracker for attachments
Hi all,
lately people are posting attachments to this list, which is under
archive perspective the worst thing you can make. Most archives do not
show any attachments nor do they usually offer a way to download them.
This is the reason why we have an issue tracker which represents a
central place to drop this patches. Everybody can go there and download
the patch if (s)he is interested.
Do not get me wrong I am happy to see them coming but please use the
appropriate channels.
TIA
salu2
--
Thorsten Scherler <thorsten.at.apache.org>
Open Source Java <consulting, training and solutions>
Re: Please use our issue tracker for attachments
Posted by Steven Dolg <st...@indoqa.com>.
Grzegorz Kossakowski schrieb:
> Hi Thorsten,
>
> Thorsten Scherler pisze:
>
>> Who is talking about that?
>>
>> The point is that patches should not been sent to a ml. I am subscribed
>> to around 50 different ml and if I receive only one attachment (let us
>> say around 1 MB) from each list I have 50 MB overhead in my mailbox. The
>> push model is not suitable for patches!
>>
>
> Using IMAP along with [PATCH] tag should help.
>
>
>> The issue tracker however is the supposed place for patches! That is why
>> it is called issue tracker. Why do you have the impression it would play
>> the role of rapidshare? I always talked about patches and contributions
>> that are interesting for the project and never said you should upload
>> porn.
>>
>>
>>> However, and that is especially true for the larger patches, your
>>> personal space on people.apache.org can be used to exchange files
>>> which are too large for email attachment.
>>>
>> That is only feasible for committers but not for John Doe that do not
>> has an apache account and want to send a diff.
>>
>
> One of the reasons why people tend to use e-mail for posting patches instead of JIRA is that it's much easier to discuss
> such patches.
>
> When patch is sent to mailing list you can use all capabilities of your e-mail client like good quoting support (in-line
> comments), threading, etc.
>
> I believe that issue tracker should be used for patches that have been already assesed and there is an agreement on that
> patch. It's only my opinion, though.
>
I totally agree with that.
Collecting all "suggestions" is hardly my idea of the purpose of an
"issue" tracker.
I also wonder how the "rapidshare -> porn" association comes into play
(of course I know where it comes from, but I cannot see why this is
relevant here).
And if really no one should send an attachment to the mailing list(s), I
suggest to disable this feature...
Re: Please use our issue tracker for attachments
Posted by Grzegorz Kossakowski <gr...@tuffmail.com>.
Hi Thorsten,
Thorsten Scherler pisze:
> Who is talking about that?
>
> The point is that patches should not been sent to a ml. I am subscribed
> to around 50 different ml and if I receive only one attachment (let us
> say around 1 MB) from each list I have 50 MB overhead in my mailbox. The
> push model is not suitable for patches!
Using IMAP along with [PATCH] tag should help.
> The issue tracker however is the supposed place for patches! That is why
> it is called issue tracker. Why do you have the impression it would play
> the role of rapidshare? I always talked about patches and contributions
> that are interesting for the project and never said you should upload
> porn.
>
>> However, and that is especially true for the larger patches, your
>> personal space on people.apache.org can be used to exchange files
>> which are too large for email attachment.
>
> That is only feasible for committers but not for John Doe that do not
> has an apache account and want to send a diff.
One of the reasons why people tend to use e-mail for posting patches instead of JIRA is that it's much easier to discuss
such patches.
When patch is sent to mailing list you can use all capabilities of your e-mail client like good quoting support (in-line
comments), threading, etc.
I believe that issue tracker should be used for patches that have been already assesed and there is an agreement on that
patch. It's only my opinion, though.
--
Best regards,
Grzegorz Kossakowski
Re: Please use our issue tracker for attachments
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@juntadeandalucia.es>.
El lun, 19-01-2009 a las 07:53 -0500, Vadim Gritsenko escribió:
> On Jan 15, 2009, at 2:09 PM, Thorsten Scherler wrote:
>
> > Most archives do not
> > show any attachments nor do they usually offer a way to download them.
>
> You seems are just using the wrong ones.
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/cocoon-dev/200901.mbox/%3C496E546F.6070209@indoqa.com%3E
Like I said before not all support them.
>
> > This is the reason why we have an issue tracker which represents a
> > central place to drop this patches.
>
> I don't think issue tracker was set up to play a role of rapidshare.
Who is talking about that?
The point is that patches should not been sent to a ml. I am subscribed
to around 50 different ml and if I receive only one attachment (let us
say around 1 MB) from each list I have 50 MB overhead in my mailbox. The
push model is not suitable for patches!
The issue tracker however is the supposed place for patches! That is why
it is called issue tracker. Why do you have the impression it would play
the role of rapidshare? I always talked about patches and contributions
that are interesting for the project and never said you should upload
porn.
> However, and that is especially true for the larger patches, your
> personal space on people.apache.org can be used to exchange files
> which are too large for email attachment.
That is only feasible for committers but not for John Doe that do not
has an apache account and want to send a diff.
salu2
>
> Vadim
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Thorsten Scherler <thorsten.at.apache.org>
Open Source Java <consulting, training and solutions>
Sociedad Andaluza para el Desarrollo de la Sociedad
de la Información, S.A.U. (SADESI)
Re: Please use our issue tracker for attachments
Posted by Vadim Gritsenko <va...@reverycodes.com>.
On Jan 15, 2009, at 2:09 PM, Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> Most archives do not
> show any attachments nor do they usually offer a way to download them.
You seems are just using the wrong ones.
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/cocoon-dev/200901.mbox/%3C496E546F.6070209@indoqa.com%3E
> This is the reason why we have an issue tracker which represents a
> central place to drop this patches.
I don't think issue tracker was set up to play a role of rapidshare.
However, and that is especially true for the larger patches, your
personal space on people.apache.org can be used to exchange files
which are too large for email attachment.
Vadim