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Posted to dev@plc4x.apache.org by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de> on 2019/05/07 12:13:03 UTC
Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Hi all,
while attending the EU FOSSA2 Hackathon in Brussles last weekend I had the chance to talk with some guys from the European Comission and they really liked how we are enabling small and mid-sized companies to participate in the Industry 4.0 sector.
They also promised to help us where they can.
While this is usually just something people say to be nice … some further thinking lead me to the idea that we might approach them and ask for some options for EU funded research.
I guess we all work for some company (or are self employed) … we could try to apply for some funds in as a collective.
You think that’s a good idea?
Chris
RE: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Posted by "Strljic, Matthias Milan" <ma...@isw.uni-stuttgart.de>.
Hi Chris,
i like the idea and would happily support it.
But for me is the acquiring process just to slow and clunky for a project like PLC4X.
I just see it with a small research project like the SFSC with Julian. It just takes over 1 Year from an idea to project start and that is just BMBF KMU.
So if we want to make there a project it should have long term perspective then to carry an idea from now to implementation.
But ISW of University of Stuttgart is in (so me xD) and we like Aachen so +1 for that :D
Greetings
Matthias Strljic, M.Sc.
Universität Stuttgart
Institut für Steuerungstechnik der Werkzeugmaschinen und Fertigungseinrichtungen (ISW)
Seidenstraße 36
70174 Stuttgart
GERMANY
Tel: +49 711 685-84530
Fax: +49 711 685-74530
E-Mail: matthias.strljic@isw.uni-stuttgart.de
Web: http://www.isw.uni-stuttgart.de
-----Original Message-----
From: Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 2:13 PM
To: dev@plc4x.apache.org
Subject: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Hi all,
while attending the EU FOSSA2 Hackathon in Brussles last weekend I had the chance to talk with some guys from the European Comission and they really liked how we are enabling small and mid-sized companies to participate in the Industry 4.0 sector.
They also promised to help us where they can.
While this is usually just something people say to be nice … some further thinking lead me to the idea that we might approach them and ask for some options for EU funded research.
I guess we all work for some company (or are self employed) … we could try to apply for some funds in as a collective.
You think that’s a good idea?
Chris
RE: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Posted by "Strljic, Matthias Milan" <ma...@isw.uni-stuttgart.de>.
Hi Julian,
jep so typical sizes:
Aif is a more restricted funding but with faster approval times.
Aif/ZIM: 1 SME + 1 Research or SME (6 - 9 Months)
Aif/Coop(forgot the name): 2 SME + 2 Research (6 - 9 Months)
KMU Innovativ: 1 - 3 SME + 1 Research (9 - 12 Months)
BMBF/BMWI Call (Call of project required): 4 - 12 SME + 1-3 Research (12 - 18 Months)
Matthias Strljic, M.Sc.
Universität Stuttgart
Institut für Steuerungstechnik der Werkzeugmaschinen und Fertigungseinrichtungen (ISW)
Seidenstraße 36
70174 Stuttgart
GERMANY
Tel: +49 711 685-84530
Fax: +49 711 685-74530
E-Mail: matthias.strljic@isw.uni-stuttgart.de
Web: http://www.isw.uni-stuttgart.de
-----Original Message-----
From: Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de>
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 5:53 PM
To: dev@plc4x.apache.org
Subject: AW: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Hi Matthias,
Very fair point. Perhaps we could start with a smaller project and something like kmu innovativ or so and slowly design the *big *one in the mean time.
I guess it would be good to have one or two kmus like Bjorn or us, cc and also one or more associated partners (+ universities).
Matthias, do you know if there is a limit with the project size or volume as Markus also started his interest.
Julian
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Von: "Strljic, Matthias Milan"
An: dev@plc4x.apache.org
Cc:
I would be happy if we could push these ideas forward and combine some ideas into a research roadmap and implement projects with different volumes.
Like Aif/Zim, BMBF (KMU Innovativ or CfP) or BMWi. Some of these projects also make it possible to involve some international partners via EUREKA(https://www.eurekanetwork.org/in-your-country ), which would increase the probability of a positive result.
Greetings
Matthias Strljic, M.Sc.
Universität Stuttgart
Institut für Steuerungstechnik der Werkzeugmaschinen und Fertigungseinrichtungen (ISW)
Seidenstraße 36
70174 Stuttgart
GERMANY
Tel: +49 711 685-84530
Fax: +49 711 685-74530
E-Mail: matthias.strljic@isw.uni-stuttgart.de
Web: http://www.isw.uni-stuttgart.de
-----Original Message-----
From: Strljic, Matthias Milan <ma...@isw.uni-stuttgart.de>
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 5:37 PM
To: dev@plc4x.apache.org
Subject: RE: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Haha i try to show more presence <3
Matthias Strljic, M.Sc.
Universität Stuttgart
Institut für Steuerungstechnik der Werkzeugmaschinen und Fertigungseinrichtungen (ISW)
Seidenstraße 36
70174 Stuttgart
GERMANY
Tel: +49 711 685-84530
Fax: +49 711 685-74530
E-Mail: matthias.strljic@isw.uni-stuttgart.de
Web: http://www.isw.uni-stuttgart.de
-----Original Message-----
From: Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de>
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 5:05 PM
To: dev@plc4x.apache.org
Subject: Re: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Hi, Andreas,
yes, of course : )
And regarding Universities we have some here on the list
- Matthias Strljic from ISW, Uni Stuttgart (but usually in stealth mode here... :P)
- Björn Höper who studied at WZL, Uni Aachen (and he still has good contacts there)
And also I will contact the OvGU in Magdeburg where we have good contacts to the IFQ.
All three institutes named here are working with Machines, Machine integration and all that shopfloor stuff.
But of course, if there are also other contacts, we should use them!
Julian
Am 07.05.19, 16:48 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>:
Anyone that can help is good ;-)
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________________________________
From: Andreas Oswald <an...@outlook.de>
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 4:45:08 PM
To: dev@plc4x.apache.org
Subject: Re: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Hi, all,
I also like the idea, a friend of mine works for the EU, he is working on smart city projects which also have quite a bit in common with Industry 4.0. Should I contact him and ask him if he has some ideas how a project like PLC4X might be supported by the EU?
Another idea might be to contact universities. While organizing the talk of Chris at EuregJUG Maas-Rhine we got some contacts to RWTH Aachen. What do you think?
Andreas
> Am 07.05.2019 um 14:13 schrieb Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> while attending the EU FOSSA2 Hackathon in Brussles last weekend I had the chance to talk with some guys from the European Comission and they really liked how we are enabling small and mid-sized companies to participate in the Industry 4.0 sector.
> They also promised to help us where they can.
>
> While this is usually just something people say to be nice … some further thinking lead me to the idea that we might approach them and ask for some options for EU funded research.
>
> I guess we all work for some company (or are self employed) … we could try to apply for some funds in as a collective.
>
> You think that’s a good idea?
>
> Chris
AW: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Posted by Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de>.
Hi Matthias,
Very fair point. Perhaps we could start with a smaller project and something like kmu innovativ or so and slowly design the *big *one in the mean time.
I guess it would be good to have one or two kmus like Bjorn or us, cc and also one or more associated partners (+ universities).
Matthias, do you know if there is a limit with the project size or volume as Markus also started his interest.
Julian
Von meinem Mobiltelefon gesendet
-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
Betreff: RE: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Von: "Strljic, Matthias Milan"
An: dev@plc4x.apache.org
Cc:
I would be happy if we could push these ideas forward and combine some ideas into a research roadmap and implement projects with different volumes.
Like Aif/Zim, BMBF (KMU Innovativ or CfP) or BMWi. Some of these projects also make it possible to involve some international partners via EUREKA(https://www.eurekanetwork.org/in-your-country ), which would increase the probability of a positive result.
Greetings
Matthias Strljic, M.Sc.
Universität Stuttgart
Institut für Steuerungstechnik der Werkzeugmaschinen und Fertigungseinrichtungen (ISW)
Seidenstraße 36
70174 Stuttgart
GERMANY
Tel: +49 711 685-84530
Fax: +49 711 685-74530
E-Mail: matthias.strljic@isw.uni-stuttgart.de
Web: http://www.isw.uni-stuttgart.de
-----Original Message-----
From: Strljic, Matthias Milan <ma...@isw.uni-stuttgart.de>
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 5:37 PM
To: dev@plc4x.apache.org
Subject: RE: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Haha i try to show more presence <3
Matthias Strljic, M.Sc.
Universität Stuttgart
Institut für Steuerungstechnik der Werkzeugmaschinen und Fertigungseinrichtungen (ISW)
Seidenstraße 36
70174 Stuttgart
GERMANY
Tel: +49 711 685-84530
Fax: +49 711 685-74530
E-Mail: matthias.strljic@isw.uni-stuttgart.de
Web: http://www.isw.uni-stuttgart.de
-----Original Message-----
From: Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de>
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 5:05 PM
To: dev@plc4x.apache.org
Subject: Re: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Hi, Andreas,
yes, of course : )
And regarding Universities we have some here on the list
- Matthias Strljic from ISW, Uni Stuttgart (but usually in stealth mode here... :P)
- Björn Höper who studied at WZL, Uni Aachen (and he still has good contacts there)
And also I will contact the OvGU in Magdeburg where we have good contacts to the IFQ.
All three institutes named here are working with Machines, Machine integration and all that shopfloor stuff.
But of course, if there are also other contacts, we should use them!
Julian
Am 07.05.19, 16:48 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>:
Anyone that can help is good ;-)
Outlook für Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> herunterladen
________________________________
From: Andreas Oswald <an...@outlook.de>
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 4:45:08 PM
To: dev@plc4x.apache.org
Subject: Re: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Hi, all,
I also like the idea, a friend of mine works for the EU, he is working on smart city projects which also have quite a bit in common with Industry 4.0. Should I contact him and ask him if he has some ideas how a project like PLC4X might be supported by the EU?
Another idea might be to contact universities. While organizing the talk of Chris at EuregJUG Maas-Rhine we got some contacts to RWTH Aachen. What do you think?
Andreas
> Am 07.05.2019 um 14:13 schrieb Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> while attending the EU FOSSA2 Hackathon in Brussles last weekend I had the chance to talk with some guys from the European Comission and they really liked how we are enabling small and mid-sized companies to participate in the Industry 4.0 sector.
> They also promised to help us where they can.
>
> While this is usually just something people say to be nice … some further thinking lead me to the idea that we might approach them and ask for some options for EU funded research.
>
> I guess we all work for some company (or are self employed) … we could try to apply for some funds in as a collective.
>
> You think that’s a good idea?
>
> Chris
RE: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Posted by "Strljic, Matthias Milan" <ma...@isw.uni-stuttgart.de>.
I would be happy if we could push these ideas forward and combine some ideas into a research roadmap and implement projects with different volumes.
Like Aif/Zim, BMBF (KMU Innovativ or CfP) or BMWi. Some of these projects also make it possible to involve some international partners via EUREKA(https://www.eurekanetwork.org/in-your-country ), which would increase the probability of a positive result.
Greetings
Matthias Strljic, M.Sc.
Universität Stuttgart
Institut für Steuerungstechnik der Werkzeugmaschinen und Fertigungseinrichtungen (ISW)
Seidenstraße 36
70174 Stuttgart
GERMANY
Tel: +49 711 685-84530
Fax: +49 711 685-74530
E-Mail: matthias.strljic@isw.uni-stuttgart.de
Web: http://www.isw.uni-stuttgart.de
-----Original Message-----
From: Strljic, Matthias Milan <ma...@isw.uni-stuttgart.de>
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 5:37 PM
To: dev@plc4x.apache.org
Subject: RE: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Haha i try to show more presence <3
Matthias Strljic, M.Sc.
Universität Stuttgart
Institut für Steuerungstechnik der Werkzeugmaschinen und Fertigungseinrichtungen (ISW)
Seidenstraße 36
70174 Stuttgart
GERMANY
Tel: +49 711 685-84530
Fax: +49 711 685-74530
E-Mail: matthias.strljic@isw.uni-stuttgart.de
Web: http://www.isw.uni-stuttgart.de
-----Original Message-----
From: Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de>
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 5:05 PM
To: dev@plc4x.apache.org
Subject: Re: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Hi, Andreas,
yes, of course : )
And regarding Universities we have some here on the list
- Matthias Strljic from ISW, Uni Stuttgart (but usually in stealth mode here... :P)
- Björn Höper who studied at WZL, Uni Aachen (and he still has good contacts there)
And also I will contact the OvGU in Magdeburg where we have good contacts to the IFQ.
All three institutes named here are working with Machines, Machine integration and all that shopfloor stuff.
But of course, if there are also other contacts, we should use them!
Julian
Am 07.05.19, 16:48 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>:
Anyone that can help is good ;-)
Outlook für Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> herunterladen
________________________________
From: Andreas Oswald <an...@outlook.de>
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 4:45:08 PM
To: dev@plc4x.apache.org
Subject: Re: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Hi, all,
I also like the idea, a friend of mine works for the EU, he is working on smart city projects which also have quite a bit in common with Industry 4.0. Should I contact him and ask him if he has some ideas how a project like PLC4X might be supported by the EU?
Another idea might be to contact universities. While organizing the talk of Chris at EuregJUG Maas-Rhine we got some contacts to RWTH Aachen. What do you think?
Andreas
> Am 07.05.2019 um 14:13 schrieb Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> while attending the EU FOSSA2 Hackathon in Brussles last weekend I had the chance to talk with some guys from the European Comission and they really liked how we are enabling small and mid-sized companies to participate in the Industry 4.0 sector.
> They also promised to help us where they can.
>
> While this is usually just something people say to be nice … some further thinking lead me to the idea that we might approach them and ask for some options for EU funded research.
>
> I guess we all work for some company (or are self employed) … we could try to apply for some funds in as a collective.
>
> You think that’s a good idea?
>
> Chris
RE: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Posted by "Strljic, Matthias Milan" <ma...@isw.uni-stuttgart.de>.
Haha i try to show more presence <3
Matthias Strljic, M.Sc.
Universität Stuttgart
Institut für Steuerungstechnik der Werkzeugmaschinen und Fertigungseinrichtungen (ISW)
Seidenstraße 36
70174 Stuttgart
GERMANY
Tel: +49 711 685-84530
Fax: +49 711 685-74530
E-Mail: matthias.strljic@isw.uni-stuttgart.de
Web: http://www.isw.uni-stuttgart.de
-----Original Message-----
From: Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de>
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 5:05 PM
To: dev@plc4x.apache.org
Subject: Re: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Hi, Andreas,
yes, of course : )
And regarding Universities we have some here on the list
- Matthias Strljic from ISW, Uni Stuttgart (but usually in stealth mode here... :P)
- Björn Höper who studied at WZL, Uni Aachen (and he still has good contacts there)
And also I will contact the OvGU in Magdeburg where we have good contacts to the IFQ.
All three institutes named here are working with Machines, Machine integration and all that shopfloor stuff.
But of course, if there are also other contacts, we should use them!
Julian
Am 07.05.19, 16:48 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>:
Anyone that can help is good ;-)
Outlook für Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> herunterladen
________________________________
From: Andreas Oswald <an...@outlook.de>
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 4:45:08 PM
To: dev@plc4x.apache.org
Subject: Re: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Hi, all,
I also like the idea, a friend of mine works for the EU, he is working on smart city projects which also have quite a bit in common with Industry 4.0. Should I contact him and ask him if he has some ideas how a project like PLC4X might be supported by the EU?
Another idea might be to contact universities. While organizing the talk of Chris at EuregJUG Maas-Rhine we got some contacts to RWTH Aachen. What do you think?
Andreas
> Am 07.05.2019 um 14:13 schrieb Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> while attending the EU FOSSA2 Hackathon in Brussles last weekend I had the chance to talk with some guys from the European Comission and they really liked how we are enabling small and mid-sized companies to participate in the Industry 4.0 sector.
> They also promised to help us where they can.
>
> While this is usually just something people say to be nice … some further thinking lead me to the idea that we might approach them and ask for some options for EU funded research.
>
> I guess we all work for some company (or are self employed) … we could try to apply for some funds in as a collective.
>
> You think that’s a good idea?
>
> Chris
Re: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Posted by Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de>.
Hi, Andreas,
yes, of course : )
And regarding Universities we have some here on the list
- Matthias Strljic from ISW, Uni Stuttgart (but usually in stealth mode here... :P)
- Björn Höper who studied at WZL, Uni Aachen (and he still has good contacts there)
And also I will contact the OvGU in Magdeburg where we have good contacts to the IFQ.
All three institutes named here are working with Machines, Machine integration and all that shopfloor stuff.
But of course, if there are also other contacts, we should use them!
Julian
Am 07.05.19, 16:48 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>:
Anyone that can help is good ;-)
Outlook für Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> herunterladen
________________________________
From: Andreas Oswald <an...@outlook.de>
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 4:45:08 PM
To: dev@plc4x.apache.org
Subject: Re: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Hi, all,
I also like the idea, a friend of mine works for the EU, he is working on smart city projects which also have quite a bit in common with Industry 4.0. Should I contact him and ask him if he has some ideas how a project like PLC4X might be supported by the EU?
Another idea might be to contact universities. While organizing the talk of Chris at EuregJUG Maas-Rhine we got some contacts to RWTH Aachen. What do you think?
Andreas
> Am 07.05.2019 um 14:13 schrieb Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> while attending the EU FOSSA2 Hackathon in Brussles last weekend I had the chance to talk with some guys from the European Comission and they really liked how we are enabling small and mid-sized companies to participate in the Industry 4.0 sector.
> They also promised to help us where they can.
>
> While this is usually just something people say to be nice … some further thinking lead me to the idea that we might approach them and ask for some options for EU funded research.
>
> I guess we all work for some company (or are self employed) … we could try to apply for some funds in as a collective.
>
> You think that’s a good idea?
>
> Chris
Re: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Anyone that can help is good ;-)
Outlook für Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> herunterladen
________________________________
From: Andreas Oswald <an...@outlook.de>
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 4:45:08 PM
To: dev@plc4x.apache.org
Subject: Re: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Hi, all,
I also like the idea, a friend of mine works for the EU, he is working on smart city projects which also have quite a bit in common with Industry 4.0. Should I contact him and ask him if he has some ideas how a project like PLC4X might be supported by the EU?
Another idea might be to contact universities. While organizing the talk of Chris at EuregJUG Maas-Rhine we got some contacts to RWTH Aachen. What do you think?
Andreas
> Am 07.05.2019 um 14:13 schrieb Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> while attending the EU FOSSA2 Hackathon in Brussles last weekend I had the chance to talk with some guys from the European Comission and they really liked how we are enabling small and mid-sized companies to participate in the Industry 4.0 sector.
> They also promised to help us where they can.
>
> While this is usually just something people say to be nice … some further thinking lead me to the idea that we might approach them and ask for some options for EU funded research.
>
> I guess we all work for some company (or are self employed) … we could try to apply for some funds in as a collective.
>
> You think that’s a good idea?
>
> Chris
Re: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Posted by Andreas Oswald <an...@outlook.de>.
Hi, all,
I also like the idea, a friend of mine works for the EU, he is working on smart city projects which also have quite a bit in common with Industry 4.0. Should I contact him and ask him if he has some ideas how a project like PLC4X might be supported by the EU?
Another idea might be to contact universities. While organizing the talk of Chris at EuregJUG Maas-Rhine we got some contacts to RWTH Aachen. What do you think?
Andreas
> Am 07.05.2019 um 14:13 schrieb Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> while attending the EU FOSSA2 Hackathon in Brussles last weekend I had the chance to talk with some guys from the European Comission and they really liked how we are enabling small and mid-sized companies to participate in the Industry 4.0 sector.
> They also promised to help us where they can.
>
> While this is usually just something people say to be nice … some further thinking lead me to the idea that we might approach them and ask for some options for EU funded research.
>
> I guess we all work for some company (or are self employed) … we could try to apply for some funds in as a collective.
>
> You think that’s a good idea?
>
> Chris
Re: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Posted by Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de>.
Usually it should be the germans taking the 2 years because they make it REALLY well engineered... :D
Am 07.05.19, 15:30 schrieb "luke@code-house.org" <lu...@code-house.org>:
You can count me in. :-) My 10 years old freelancing business (code-house.org <http://code-house.org/>), and our micro ltd/gmbg (connectorio.com <http://connectorio.com/>) which is few months old are, all are deeply interested in moving these things forward.
Making better use of software to integrate hardware and machinery is very interesting perspective which we will definitely explore - with EU help or without (yes, it will take us 2+ years to make first PR ;-)).
Cheers,
Łukasz
> On 7 May 2019, at 15:00, Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>
> Hehe,
>
> if Lukasz joins in, we'll have multiple countries ;-)
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Am 07.05.19, 14:53 schrieb "Markus Sommer" <so...@isb-fn.de>:
>
> Hey Chris,
>
> I agree with Julian, the EU projects are mostly bigger. Also several EU countries have to participate in the EU projects.
>
> I think the idea is good, now I have to clarify the boundary conditions and build up the successful project setup (university, end user etc.).
>
> We currently have a German project funded by the BMBF and in September we will carry out our first EU-funded project with 5-6 EU states on the topic of offline debugging of neural networks and online validation of self-learning systems in production.
>
> We would also participate.
>
> Markus
>
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> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de>
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. Mai 2019 14:28
> An: dev@plc4x.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I like the idea and in fact, as stated earlier on the list, there is a project funded by the german government (SFSC) together with Matthias Institute where we plan to do some PLC4X development and integration.
> The EU founded projects are usually larger but also harder to acquire, so it will be a LOT of paperwork, but could be worth it if we make a nice proposal and outline a really feasible solution (not only covering plc4x but also some "end-user-usable" thing, or so).
> And, we should gather several "assoziated" partners which explain their interest in what we want to do.
>
> And of course good university support. So perhaps the ISW (Matthias) and also the WZL Aachen (Björn has good contacts) and the IFQ Magdeburg (we have good contacts) could be good universitary partners for such a project.
>
> So pragmatic minds or pragmatic industries would be in, I guess.
>
> Julian
>
> Am 07.05.19, 14:23 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> while attending the EU FOSSA2 Hackathon in Brussles last weekend I had the chance to talk with some guys from the European Comission and they really liked how we are enabling small and mid-sized companies to participate in the Industry 4.0 sector.
> They also promised to help us where they can.
>
> While this is usually just something people say to be nice … some further thinking lead me to the idea that we might approach them and ask for some options for EU funded research.
>
> I guess we all work for some company (or are self employed) … we could try to apply for some funds in as a collective.
>
> You think that’s a good idea?
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
Re: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Posted by lu...@code-house.org.
You can count me in. :-) My 10 years old freelancing business (code-house.org <http://code-house.org/>), and our micro ltd/gmbg (connectorio.com <http://connectorio.com/>) which is few months old are, all are deeply interested in moving these things forward.
Making better use of software to integrate hardware and machinery is very interesting perspective which we will definitely explore - with EU help or without (yes, it will take us 2+ years to make first PR ;-)).
Cheers,
Łukasz
> On 7 May 2019, at 15:00, Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>
> Hehe,
>
> if Lukasz joins in, we'll have multiple countries ;-)
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Am 07.05.19, 14:53 schrieb "Markus Sommer" <so...@isb-fn.de>:
>
> Hey Chris,
>
> I agree with Julian, the EU projects are mostly bigger. Also several EU countries have to participate in the EU projects.
>
> I think the idea is good, now I have to clarify the boundary conditions and build up the successful project setup (university, end user etc.).
>
> We currently have a German project funded by the BMBF and in September we will carry out our first EU-funded project with 5-6 EU states on the topic of offline debugging of neural networks and online validation of self-learning systems in production.
>
> We would also participate.
>
> Markus
>
> Freundliche Grüße
>
> Markus Sommer
> Geschäftsführer
>
> isb innovative software businesses GmbH
> Otto-Lilienthal-Strasse 2
> D - 88046 Friedrichshafen
>
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>
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>
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>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de>
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. Mai 2019 14:28
> An: dev@plc4x.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I like the idea and in fact, as stated earlier on the list, there is a project funded by the german government (SFSC) together with Matthias Institute where we plan to do some PLC4X development and integration.
> The EU founded projects are usually larger but also harder to acquire, so it will be a LOT of paperwork, but could be worth it if we make a nice proposal and outline a really feasible solution (not only covering plc4x but also some "end-user-usable" thing, or so).
> And, we should gather several "assoziated" partners which explain their interest in what we want to do.
>
> And of course good university support. So perhaps the ISW (Matthias) and also the WZL Aachen (Björn has good contacts) and the IFQ Magdeburg (we have good contacts) could be good universitary partners for such a project.
>
> So pragmatic minds or pragmatic industries would be in, I guess.
>
> Julian
>
> Am 07.05.19, 14:23 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> while attending the EU FOSSA2 Hackathon in Brussles last weekend I had the chance to talk with some guys from the European Comission and they really liked how we are enabling small and mid-sized companies to participate in the Industry 4.0 sector.
> They also promised to help us where they can.
>
> While this is usually just something people say to be nice … some further thinking lead me to the idea that we might approach them and ask for some options for EU funded research.
>
> I guess we all work for some company (or are self employed) … we could try to apply for some funds in as a collective.
>
> You think that’s a good idea?
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
Re: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Posted by Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de>.
Well... just because you are allowed to join the European Song Contest youre not automatically a Member of the EU :D
Am 07.05.19, 15:09 schrieb "Justin Mclean" <ju...@classsoftware.com>:
Hi,
Don’t forget about the AU? :-)
Justin
Re: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
Don’t forget about the AU? :-)
Justin
AW: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Posted by Markus Sommer <so...@isb-fn.de>.
The more requirements (also not written down) are fulfilled, the higher the chance of funding. The requirements are usually stated in a personal interview with the funding agency.
Note: If we submit an application today, we will not be able to start until 9 months. 9 months is already fast.
In the end you have to acquire a funding project like a customer project.
Freundliche Grüße
Markus Sommer
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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. Mai 2019 15:04
An: dev@plc4x.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
But yes, Markus is right, that’s a requirement or at least important to have.
So perhaps we could also think about other people cooperating from somewhere else in the EU.
Am 07.05.19, 15:00 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>:
Hehe,
if Lukasz joins in, we'll have multiple countries ;-)
Chris
Am 07.05.19, 14:53 schrieb "Markus Sommer" <so...@isb-fn.de>:
Hey Chris,
I agree with Julian, the EU projects are mostly bigger. Also several EU countries have to participate in the EU projects.
I think the idea is good, now I have to clarify the boundary conditions and build up the successful project setup (university, end user etc.).
We currently have a German project funded by the BMBF and in September we will carry out our first EU-funded project with 5-6 EU states on the topic of offline debugging of neural networks and online validation of self-learning systems in production.
We would also participate.
Markus
Freundliche Grüße
Markus Sommer
Geschäftsführer
isb innovative software businesses GmbH
Otto-Lilienthal-Strasse 2
D - 88046 Friedrichshafen
Tel.: +49 (0) 7541 3834-14
Mob: +49 (0) 171 537 8437
Fax: +49 (0) 7541 3834-20
E-Mail: sommer@isb-fn.de
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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. Mai 2019 14:28
An: dev@plc4x.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Hi Chris,
I like the idea and in fact, as stated earlier on the list, there is a project funded by the german government (SFSC) together with Matthias Institute where we plan to do some PLC4X development and integration.
The EU founded projects are usually larger but also harder to acquire, so it will be a LOT of paperwork, but could be worth it if we make a nice proposal and outline a really feasible solution (not only covering plc4x but also some "end-user-usable" thing, or so).
And, we should gather several "assoziated" partners which explain their interest in what we want to do.
And of course good university support. So perhaps the ISW (Matthias) and also the WZL Aachen (Björn has good contacts) and the IFQ Magdeburg (we have good contacts) could be good universitary partners for such a project.
So pragmatic minds or pragmatic industries would be in, I guess.
Julian
Am 07.05.19, 14:23 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>:
Hi all,
while attending the EU FOSSA2 Hackathon in Brussles last weekend I had the chance to talk with some guys from the European Comission and they really liked how we are enabling small and mid-sized companies to participate in the Industry 4.0 sector.
They also promised to help us where they can.
While this is usually just something people say to be nice … some further thinking lead me to the idea that we might approach them and ask for some options for EU funded research.
I guess we all work for some company (or are self employed) … we could try to apply for some funds in as a collective.
You think that’s a good idea?
Chris
Re: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Posted by Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de>.
But yes, Markus is right, that’s a requirement or at least important to have.
So perhaps we could also think about other people cooperating from somewhere else in the EU.
Am 07.05.19, 15:00 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>:
Hehe,
if Lukasz joins in, we'll have multiple countries ;-)
Chris
Am 07.05.19, 14:53 schrieb "Markus Sommer" <so...@isb-fn.de>:
Hey Chris,
I agree with Julian, the EU projects are mostly bigger. Also several EU countries have to participate in the EU projects.
I think the idea is good, now I have to clarify the boundary conditions and build up the successful project setup (university, end user etc.).
We currently have a German project funded by the BMBF and in September we will carry out our first EU-funded project with 5-6 EU states on the topic of offline debugging of neural networks and online validation of self-learning systems in production.
We would also participate.
Markus
Freundliche Grüße
Markus Sommer
Geschäftsführer
isb innovative software businesses GmbH
Otto-Lilienthal-Strasse 2
D - 88046 Friedrichshafen
Tel.: +49 (0) 7541 3834-14
Mob: +49 (0) 171 537 8437
Fax: +49 (0) 7541 3834-20
E-Mail: sommer@isb-fn.de
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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. Mai 2019 14:28
An: dev@plc4x.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Hi Chris,
I like the idea and in fact, as stated earlier on the list, there is a project funded by the german government (SFSC) together with Matthias Institute where we plan to do some PLC4X development and integration.
The EU founded projects are usually larger but also harder to acquire, so it will be a LOT of paperwork, but could be worth it if we make a nice proposal and outline a really feasible solution (not only covering plc4x but also some "end-user-usable" thing, or so).
And, we should gather several "assoziated" partners which explain their interest in what we want to do.
And of course good university support. So perhaps the ISW (Matthias) and also the WZL Aachen (Björn has good contacts) and the IFQ Magdeburg (we have good contacts) could be good universitary partners for such a project.
So pragmatic minds or pragmatic industries would be in, I guess.
Julian
Am 07.05.19, 14:23 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>:
Hi all,
while attending the EU FOSSA2 Hackathon in Brussles last weekend I had the chance to talk with some guys from the European Comission and they really liked how we are enabling small and mid-sized companies to participate in the Industry 4.0 sector.
They also promised to help us where they can.
While this is usually just something people say to be nice … some further thinking lead me to the idea that we might approach them and ask for some options for EU funded research.
I guess we all work for some company (or are self employed) … we could try to apply for some funds in as a collective.
You think that’s a good idea?
Chris
Re: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Hehe,
if Lukasz joins in, we'll have multiple countries ;-)
Chris
Am 07.05.19, 14:53 schrieb "Markus Sommer" <so...@isb-fn.de>:
Hey Chris,
I agree with Julian, the EU projects are mostly bigger. Also several EU countries have to participate in the EU projects.
I think the idea is good, now I have to clarify the boundary conditions and build up the successful project setup (university, end user etc.).
We currently have a German project funded by the BMBF and in September we will carry out our first EU-funded project with 5-6 EU states on the topic of offline debugging of neural networks and online validation of self-learning systems in production.
We would also participate.
Markus
Freundliche Grüße
Markus Sommer
Geschäftsführer
isb innovative software businesses GmbH
Otto-Lilienthal-Strasse 2
D - 88046 Friedrichshafen
Tel.: +49 (0) 7541 3834-14
Mob: +49 (0) 171 537 8437
Fax: +49 (0) 7541 3834-20
E-Mail: sommer@isb-fn.de
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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. Mai 2019 14:28
An: dev@plc4x.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Hi Chris,
I like the idea and in fact, as stated earlier on the list, there is a project funded by the german government (SFSC) together with Matthias Institute where we plan to do some PLC4X development and integration.
The EU founded projects are usually larger but also harder to acquire, so it will be a LOT of paperwork, but could be worth it if we make a nice proposal and outline a really feasible solution (not only covering plc4x but also some "end-user-usable" thing, or so).
And, we should gather several "assoziated" partners which explain their interest in what we want to do.
And of course good university support. So perhaps the ISW (Matthias) and also the WZL Aachen (Björn has good contacts) and the IFQ Magdeburg (we have good contacts) could be good universitary partners for such a project.
So pragmatic minds or pragmatic industries would be in, I guess.
Julian
Am 07.05.19, 14:23 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>:
Hi all,
while attending the EU FOSSA2 Hackathon in Brussles last weekend I had the chance to talk with some guys from the European Comission and they really liked how we are enabling small and mid-sized companies to participate in the Industry 4.0 sector.
They also promised to help us where they can.
While this is usually just something people say to be nice … some further thinking lead me to the idea that we might approach them and ask for some options for EU funded research.
I guess we all work for some company (or are self employed) … we could try to apply for some funds in as a collective.
You think that’s a good idea?
Chris
AW: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Posted by Markus Sommer <so...@isb-fn.de>.
Hey Chris,
I agree with Julian, the EU projects are mostly bigger. Also several EU countries have to participate in the EU projects.
I think the idea is good, now I have to clarify the boundary conditions and build up the successful project setup (university, end user etc.).
We currently have a German project funded by the BMBF and in September we will carry out our first EU-funded project with 5-6 EU states on the topic of offline debugging of neural networks and online validation of self-learning systems in production.
We would also participate.
Markus
Freundliche Grüße
Markus Sommer
Geschäftsführer
isb innovative software businesses GmbH
Otto-Lilienthal-Strasse 2
D - 88046 Friedrichshafen
Tel.: +49 (0) 7541 3834-14
Mob: +49 (0) 171 537 8437
Fax: +49 (0) 7541 3834-20
E-Mail: sommer@isb-fn.de
Web: www.isb-fn.de
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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. Mai 2019 14:28
An: dev@plc4x.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Hi Chris,
I like the idea and in fact, as stated earlier on the list, there is a project funded by the german government (SFSC) together with Matthias Institute where we plan to do some PLC4X development and integration.
The EU founded projects are usually larger but also harder to acquire, so it will be a LOT of paperwork, but could be worth it if we make a nice proposal and outline a really feasible solution (not only covering plc4x but also some "end-user-usable" thing, or so).
And, we should gather several "assoziated" partners which explain their interest in what we want to do.
And of course good university support. So perhaps the ISW (Matthias) and also the WZL Aachen (Björn has good contacts) and the IFQ Magdeburg (we have good contacts) could be good universitary partners for such a project.
So pragmatic minds or pragmatic industries would be in, I guess.
Julian
Am 07.05.19, 14:23 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>:
Hi all,
while attending the EU FOSSA2 Hackathon in Brussles last weekend I had the chance to talk with some guys from the European Comission and they really liked how we are enabling small and mid-sized companies to participate in the Industry 4.0 sector.
They also promised to help us where they can.
While this is usually just something people say to be nice … some further thinking lead me to the idea that we might approach them and ask for some options for EU funded research.
I guess we all work for some company (or are self employed) … we could try to apply for some funds in as a collective.
You think that’s a good idea?
Chris
Re: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Posted by Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de>.
Hi Chris,
I like the idea and in fact, as stated earlier on the list, there is a project funded by the german government (SFSC) together with Matthias Institute where we plan to do some PLC4X development and integration.
The EU founded projects are usually larger but also harder to acquire, so it will be a LOT of paperwork, but could be worth it if we make a nice proposal and outline a really feasible solution (not only covering plc4x but also some "end-user-usable" thing, or so).
And, we should gather several "assoziated" partners which explain their interest in what we want to do.
And of course good university support. So perhaps the ISW (Matthias) and also the WZL Aachen (Björn has good contacts) and the IFQ Magdeburg (we have good contacts) could be good universitary partners for such a project.
So pragmatic minds or pragmatic industries would be in, I guess.
Julian
Am 07.05.19, 14:23 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <ch...@c-ware.de>:
Hi all,
while attending the EU FOSSA2 Hackathon in Brussles last weekend I had the chance to talk with some guys from the European Comission and they really liked how we are enabling small and mid-sized companies to participate in the Industry 4.0 sector.
They also promised to help us where they can.
While this is usually just something people say to be nice … some further thinking lead me to the idea that we might approach them and ask for some options for EU funded research.
I guess we all work for some company (or are self employed) … we could try to apply for some funds in as a collective.
You think that’s a good idea?
Chris
AW: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Posted by Bjoern Hoeper <ho...@ltsoft.de>.
I would definitely appreciate such an effort. I have participated in two EU founded projects during my time at university and they always provided quite good results. Nevertheless most of them are really big...like the whole PLC4X project is the size of a single workpackage in such a project (if it is Horizon 2020 or something alike)
Björn
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. Mai 2019 14:13
An: dev@plc4x.apache.org
Betreff: Approaching the European Commission for some help?
Hi all,
while attending the EU FOSSA2 Hackathon in Brussles last weekend I had the chance to talk with some guys from the European Comission and they really liked how we are enabling small and mid-sized companies to participate in the Industry 4.0 sector.
They also promised to help us where they can.
While this is usually just something people say to be nice … some further thinking lead me to the idea that we might approach them and ask for some options for EU funded research.
I guess we all work for some company (or are self employed) … we could try to apply for some funds in as a collective.
You think that’s a good idea?
Chris