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Posted to dev@apr.apache.org by "William A. Rowe Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net> on 2011/04/15 03:51:42 UTC
[vote] reset to apr-util 1.5.0-dev?
In order to disambiguate what was released by external entities from what
the ASF APR Project has voted upon and released, I'd suggest that we best
serve our users by 'skipping' apr-util 1.4.x, and at minimum, 1.4.0.
Your opinions, please?
[ ] Stay at apr-util 1.4.0 for the next pre-2.0 release
[ ] Bump to apr-util 1.4.1 for the next pre-2.0 release
[ ] Bump to apr-util 1.5.0 for the next pre-2.0 release
Re: [vote] reset to apr-util 1.5.0-dev?
Posted by Guenter Knauf <fu...@apache.org>.
Am 15.04.2011 03:51, schrieb William A. Rowe Jr.:
> In order to disambiguate what was released by external entities from what
> the ASF APR Project has voted upon and released, I'd suggest that we best
> serve our users by 'skipping' apr-util 1.4.x, and at minimum, 1.4.0.
sorry, but can you please explain what you mean here with 'external
entities' ??
thanks, Gün.
Re: [vote] reset to apr-util 1.5.0-dev?
Posted by Ruediger Pluem <rp...@apache.org>.
On 04/15/2011 03:51 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
> In order to disambiguate what was released by external entities from what
> the ASF APR Project has voted upon and released, I'd suggest that we best
> serve our users by 'skipping' apr-util 1.4.x, and at minimum, 1.4.0.
>
> Your opinions, please?
>
> [ ] Stay at apr-util 1.4.0 for the next pre-2.0 release
> [ ] Bump to apr-util 1.4.1 for the next pre-2.0 release
> [X] Bump to apr-util 1.5.0 for the next pre-2.0 release
>
>
Regards
Rüdiger
Re: [vote] reset to apr-util 1.5.0-dev?
Posted by Guenter Knauf <fu...@apache.org>.
Am 15.04.2011 04:09, schrieb Dongsheng Song:
>> [X] Bump to apr-util 1.5.0 for the next pre-2.0 release
>
> Use apr-utils 1.3 with apr 1.4, I felt very strange.
/me too.
> I think it's reasonable to bump apr-util to 1.5, and used with apr 1.5.
ha, and exactly this will then *not* happen with your vote, but instead
we will then use apr-1.4.x (where we have currently no reason to go
1.5.x) with apr-1.5.x == as strange as before, only then APU looks
advanced instead of behind :-)
Gün.
Re: [vote] reset to apr-util 1.5.0-dev?
Posted by "William A. Rowe Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
On 4/14/2011 9:09 PM, Dongsheng Song wrote:
>
> Use apr-utils 1.3 with apr 1.4, I felt very strange.
With apr 2.0, apr-util is folded into apr, so there will no longer
be two different version numbers (nor two packages).
Re: [vote] reset to apr-util 1.5.0-dev?
Posted by Dongsheng Song <do...@apache.org>.
> [X] Bump to apr-util 1.5.0 for the next pre-2.0 release
Use apr-utils 1.3 with apr 1.4, I felt very strange.
I think it's reasonable to bump apr-util to 1.5, and used with apr 1.5.
Re: [vote] reset to apr-util 1.5.0-dev?
Posted by "William A. Rowe Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
> [X] Bump to apr-util 1.5.0 for the next pre-2.0 release
My 2¥
Re: Discuss; reset to apr-util 1.5.0-dev?
Posted by Stefan Fritsch <sf...@sfritsch.de>.
On Friday 15 April 2011, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
> On 4/15/2011 6:36 AM, Jeff Trawick wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 9:51 PM, William A. Rowe Jr.
> >
> > <wr...@rowe-clan.net> wrote:
> >> In order to disambiguate what was released by external entities
> >> from what the ASF APR Project has voted upon and released,
> >
> > are you referring to some apr-util-1.4.0 RPM from opensuse.org,
> > or something else?
>
> archive.a.o/dist/httpd/httpd-2.3.4-alpha-deps.tar.gz;
>
> httpd-2.3.4-alpha/srclib/apr-util/include/apr_crypto.h
>
> to be very specific.
> [X] Stay at apr-util 1.4.0 for the next pre-2.0 release
> [ ] Bump to apr-util 1.4.1 for the next pre-2.0 release
> [ ] Bump to apr-util 1.5.0 for the next pre-2.0 release
I really don't think we need to care about compatibility in/with alpha
tarballs.
> Before we ship 2.0, we have to introduce some mechanism to preview
> alpha/beta features, if we don't want to continue this stagnation
> through the 2.0 lifespan. Odds/evens versioning might be the
> solution, but we should come up with some consensus before 2.0.0
> is blessed.
That sounds like a good idea.
Discuss; reset to apr-util 1.5.0-dev?
Posted by "William A. Rowe Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
On 4/15/2011 6:36 AM, Jeff Trawick wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 9:51 PM, William A. Rowe Jr.
> <wr...@rowe-clan.net> wrote:
>> In order to disambiguate what was released by external entities from what
>> the ASF APR Project has voted upon and released,
>
> are you referring to some apr-util-1.4.0 RPM from opensuse.org, or
> something else?
archive.a.o/dist/httpd/httpd-2.3.4-alpha-deps.tar.gz;
httpd-2.3.4-alpha/srclib/apr-util/include/apr_crypto.h
to be very specific.
It seems prudent to say 'don't trust apu 1.4.0-dev for purposes of compiling
apu_crypto based code, the API you mean to compile against is 1.x.x or later.
But are users expected to test >1.4.0-dev or simply >= 1.4? I think we promised
the later.
Before we ship 2.0, we have to introduce some mechanism to preview alpha/beta
features, if we don't want to continue this stagnation through the 2.0 lifespan.
Odds/evens versioning might be the solution, but we should come up with some
consensus before 2.0.0 is blessed.
Re: [vote] reset to apr-util 1.5.0-dev?
Posted by Jeff Trawick <tr...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 9:51 PM, William A. Rowe Jr.
<wr...@rowe-clan.net> wrote:
> In order to disambiguate what was released by external entities from what
> the ASF APR Project has voted upon and released,
are you referring to some apr-util-1.4.0 RPM from opensuse.org, or
something else?
RE: [vote] reset to apr-util 1.5.0-dev?
Posted by Bert Huijben <be...@qqmail.nl>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William A. Rowe Jr. [mailto:wrowe@rowe-clan.net]
> Sent: vrijdag 15 april 2011 3:52
> To: APR Developer List
> Subject: [vote] reset to apr-util 1.5.0-dev?
>
> In order to disambiguate what was released by external entities from what
> the ASF APR Project has voted upon and released, I'd suggest that we best
> serve our users by 'skipping' apr-util 1.4.x, and at minimum, 1.4.0.
>
> Your opinions, please?
>
> [ ] Stay at apr-util 1.4.0 for the next pre-2.0 release
> [ ] Bump to apr-util 1.4.1 for the next pre-2.0 release
> [X] Bump to apr-util 1.5.0 for the next pre-2.0 release
(non binding; as I'm not officially part of the apr project).
Version numbers are cheap. Keep it safe.
Bert
Re: [vote] reset to apr-util 1.5.0-dev?
Posted by Rainer Jung <ra...@kippdata.de>.
On 15.04.2011 03:51, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
> In order to disambiguate what was released by external entities from what
> the ASF APR Project has voted upon and released, I'd suggest that we best
> serve our users by 'skipping' apr-util 1.4.x, and at minimum, 1.4.0.
>
> Your opinions, please?
>
> [ ] Stay at apr-util 1.4.0 for the next pre-2.0 release
> [ ] Bump to apr-util 1.4.1 for the next pre-2.0 release
> [X] Bump to apr-util 1.5.0 for the next pre-2.0 release
Rainer
Re: [vote] reset to apr-util 1.5.0-dev?
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
On Apr 14, 2011, at 9:51 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
> In order to disambiguate what was released by external entities from what
> the ASF APR Project has voted upon and released, I'd suggest that we best
> serve our users by 'skipping' apr-util 1.4.x, and at minimum, 1.4.0.
>
> Your opinions, please?
>
> [+1] Bump to apr-util 1.5.0 for the next pre-2.0 release
>
Re: [vote] reset to apr-util 1.5.0-dev?
Posted by Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis <ar...@gmail.com>.
2011-04-15 03:51:42 William A. Rowe Jr. napisał(a):
> In order to disambiguate what was released by external entities from what
> the ASF APR Project has voted upon and released, I'd suggest that we best
> serve our users by 'skipping' apr-util 1.4.x, and at minimum, 1.4.0.
>
> Your opinions, please?
>
> [X] Stay at apr-util 1.4.0 for the next pre-2.0 release
> [ ] Bump to apr-util 1.4.1 for the next pre-2.0 release
> [ ] Bump to apr-util 1.5.0 for the next pre-2.0 release
(Non-binding)
--
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis