Re: Embperl and worker MPM

[Neil Gunton <ne...@nilspace.com>]

Gerald Richter wrote:
> Geting Embperl with threads (and therefor the worker MPM) is planned for one
> of the next releases.
> 
> The problem is, that it is a lot of work, which needs to be done in my free
> time, so I cannot exactly say when it will be finished.
> 
> Some time ago Gary Shea [shea at gtsdesign dot com] try to collect some
> money on the Embperl list to to speed up this implementation (in such a case
> my company would pay some of the implementation cost, but my company is not
> big enought to pay all of it of it on it's own)

How much do you need to do this? Setting a specific target and then sending out a "fundraising 
appeal newsletter" might help. Set up a PayPal account and make a special "donations" web page on 
your site so that it's really easy to donate (people do not need to be paypay members in order to 
use a credit card). Yes, I know PayPal isn't the ideal solution, but they do make it easy to give, 
which is the important thing. Also, implement some kind of "progress bar" on the site to keep track 
of how much you've raised in relation to the target.

I'n not just spouting here - I did this recently on my crazyguyonabike website to raise funds for a 
new server. I couldn't afford a new one, so I sent out a newsletter to the user community to ask for 
$2000. The email went out in the morning, and we had raised the target by the end of the day. Then 
people kept on giving, and the final total was over $5000 a few weeks later. I was quite surprised!

I don't know how many people are on your mailing list, Gerald, but I think there were about 600 or 
so that got the email (hard to say with spam filters etc) and a 150 or so who donated anywhere from 
$20 to $300. You might need more money for this, I have no idea, but you're also probably dealing 
with people who use Embperl for business. So you might get larger donations if you play your cards 
right.

People certainly should be grateful for all the effort you've put into this project over the years, 
you might be surprised at the response. But you do have to make it easy - do the PayPal page, here's 
mine for example below. Also, have an obvious link to it from the front page. When the fundraising 
was active, I put the donation button in a big yellow box with a progress bar. You have to update 
the progress yourself, but that's a trivial project with a small database table.

http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/help/donate/

Key things, I think, are:

1. Make it clear what you're doing and why people should send money
2. Make it really easy to give
3. Give people a visual indication of progress toward the goal - they seem to love that

I ran crazyguyonabike since 2000 and never asked for anything in return. I thought asking for 
donations was distasteful somehow, and I wanted to keep money out of it. However in this case we 
needed a new server, so everybody would be benefitting. If a similar drive helped you do more to 
make Embperl even better, then that benefits everybody here, so I think it's in perfectly good 
taste. Many open source projects have a "donate" button.

If you'd like any more help with this then let me know.

-Neil

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RE: Embperl and worker MPM

[Gerald Richter <ri...@ecos.de>]

Hi Neil,

Yes, it's a good idea to setup a donate button. I already have a PayPal
account (also I didn't used it for a long time), so this should be no
problem.

Gerald


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil Gunton [mailto:neil@nilspace.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 7:58 PM
> To: embperl@perl.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Embperl and worker MPM
> 
> Gerald Richter wrote:
> > Geting Embperl with threads (and therefor the worker MPM) 
> is planned 
> > for one of the next releases.
> > 
> > The problem is, that it is a lot of work, which needs to be 
> done in my 
> > free time, so I cannot exactly say when it will be finished.
> > 
> > Some time ago Gary Shea [shea at gtsdesign dot com] try to collect 
> > some money on the Embperl list to to speed up this 
> implementation (in 
> > such a case my company would pay some of the implementation 
> cost, but 
> > my company is not big enought to pay all of it of it on it's own)
> 
> How much do you need to do this? Setting a specific target 
> and then sending out a "fundraising appeal newsletter" might 
> help. Set up a PayPal account and make a special "donations" 
> web page on your site so that it's really easy to donate 
> (people do not need to be paypay members in order to use a 
> credit card). Yes, I know PayPal isn't the ideal solution, 
> but they do make it easy to give, which is the important 
> thing. Also, implement some kind of "progress bar" on the 
> site to keep track of how much you've raised in relation to 
> the target.
> 
> I'n not just spouting here - I did this recently on my 
> crazyguyonabike website to raise funds for a new server. I 
> couldn't afford a new one, so I sent out a newsletter to the 
> user community to ask for $2000. The email went out in the 
> morning, and we had raised the target by the end of the day. 
> Then people kept on giving, and the final total was over 
> $5000 a few weeks later. I was quite surprised!
> 
> I don't know how many people are on your mailing list, 
> Gerald, but I think there were about 600 or so that got the 
> email (hard to say with spam filters etc) and a 150 or so who 
> donated anywhere from $20 to $300. You might need more money 
> for this, I have no idea, but you're also probably dealing 
> with people who use Embperl for business. So you might get 
> larger donations if you play your cards right.
> 
> People certainly should be grateful for all the effort you've 
> put into this project over the years, you might be surprised 
> at the response. But you do have to make it easy - do the 
> PayPal page, here's mine for example below. Also, have an 
> obvious link to it from the front page. When the fundraising 
> was active, I put the donation button in a big yellow box 
> with a progress bar. You have to update the progress 
> yourself, but that's a trivial project with a small database table.
> 
> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/help/donate/
> 
> Key things, I think, are:
> 
> 1. Make it clear what you're doing and why people should send 
> money 2. Make it really easy to give 3. Give people a visual 
> indication of progress toward the goal - they seem to love that
> 
> I ran crazyguyonabike since 2000 and never asked for anything 
> in return. I thought asking for donations was distasteful 
> somehow, and I wanted to keep money out of it. However in 
> this case we needed a new server, so everybody would be 
> benefitting. If a similar drive helped you do more to make 
> Embperl even better, then that benefits everybody here, so I 
> think it's in perfectly good taste. Many open source projects 
> have a "donate" button.
> 
> If you'd like any more help with this then let me know.
> 
> -Neil
> 
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