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Posted to server-user@james.apache.org by Marco Tedone <m_...@hotmail.com> on 2003/04/25 19:05:07 UTC

[NEWBIE] Configuration info - Problem solved (2/3) - A little bit of documentation

Steve, thanks a lot for your mail, it helped a lot. To resume also for
other users (as it seems that configuration problem is diffused) here
what I've done:

MY CONFIGURATION:

OS:		Windows XP Pro SP1
IP address:	Dynamically assigned by DNS server (but as I am the
router's owner, it is always the first assigned, therefore the same);
let's say 192.168.x.x
DNS Server:	My router's IP address: 192.168.x.1
My domain:  jemos.org

Here follows the config.xml elements I set up:

<servername>jemos.org</servername>
.
.
<dnsserver>
  <servers>
    <!-- This is the router's IP address -->
    <server>192.168.x.1</server>
  </servers>
</dnsserver>
.
.
<remotemanager>
  <port>4555</port>
  <handler>
    <helloName autodetect="true">blablabla</helloName>
    <administrator_accounts>
      <account login="me" password="mypwd" />
    </administrator_accounts>
   ..The rest is the same
</remotemanager>

Then, I added a user:

Telnet 192.168.x.x 4555
userName
Pwd

-> adduser [user]  [password]    //For user don't use the domain. So if
you want to add trial@mydomain.com just add trial

That's all

I then added an email account with Outlook Express giving as POP3 the
192.168.x.x. (the same used for telnet). Then, from my 'real' email
client I sent an email to trial@jemos.org, I checked the email with
Outlook Express and the mail was received.

The only thing which didn't work has been the SMTP configuration. When I
*send* an email from Outlook Express (so using trial@jemos.org) to my
'real' email address, I receive an error, indicating that at present I
can receive mails but I cannot send emails.

Hope it will help

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve [mailto:steve@browsermedia.com] 
> Sent: 25 April 2003 16:48
> To: James Users List
> Subject: Re: [NEWBIE] Configuration info
> 
> 
> I have a similar setup. Here are a couple of suggestions I 
> would offer based on my own experience (in no particular order):
> 
>  1) The DNS value for James may be the ip address of the router.
>         (actually, my "router" is a WindowsXP box with a 
>         shared Internet connection and the firewall enabled.)
>         I am not an expert on routers, so this may differ - 
>         this was also true, however, when I used WinProxy.
> 
>  2) I ran into problems where my router made all emails look like
>         they were from the local network (an open relay). I would
>         suggest that you comment-out the
>         "<mailet match="RemoteAddrNotInNetwor..." hive
>         and enable the <authRequired>true</authRequired>
>         in the smtp section.
>         Also, this was important since my "router" is dynamically
>         assigned an ip address. This prevented me from setting
>         a static value to RemoteAddrNotInNetwork.
> 
> 3) Your domain name should be simply jemos.org (w/o the 
>         www.) if your email addresses are user@jemos.org.
> 
> 4) After you verify the setup, use ORDB.org to test your
>         setup. They will eventually test your site anyway, so it
>         is best not to endup on their OR list.
> 
> 5) It is a whole new level of setup issues (if you are new to db's
>     as well) but I would suggest using the db stores if you can. 
>     It simplified things for me (orphaned emails after server 
>     reboots comes to mind; but this may be fixed). It is also
>     recommended by the power-users in this group.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Stephan Wiesner" <st...@stephan-wiesner.de>
> To: "James Users List" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 1:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [NEWBIE] Configuration info
> 
> 
> > Hi Marco,
> > I am not sure about your configuration. You installed James on the
> > machine with the domain name jemos, is that correct? If so, put 
> > www.jemos.org in <servername>. But your other values sound 
> as if you 
> > have it on a local machine? Then put localhost or 127.0.0.1 
> in there. 
> > You will not be able to receive mails via the Internet to such an 
> > address, of course. You can enter your IP, but my mail 
> provider does not 
> > allow to send mails to IP addresses, so that still might not work.
> > 
> > Leave fetchpop alone for a start. You don't need it to send and 
> > receive
> > mails.
> > 
> > You can leave the hellonames to the default values (make sure 
> > autodetect
> > is on).
> > 
> > Stephan
> > 
> > Marco Tedone wrote:
> > 
> > >Hi, this is my first time in the list...and my first time 
> with a mail 
> > >server. I installed the bin distribution of jamie 2.1.1 
> and trying to 
> > >configure it. I read the installation instructions but I 
> must admit 
> > >that I didn't' understand a lot.
> > >
> > >Here's my situation: I run a web site on my machine (a local IP 
> > >address monitored by a router on an internet address). On 
> my domain 
> > >site I specified my internet fix IP address and on my 
> router my local 
> > >IP, so my web works. I added a POP3 and SMTP virtual hosts to my 
> > >router, listening on the standard ports. Now I'm going 
> trough jamie's 
> > >config.xml file and I'm not sure about how to configure the IP 
> > >addresses, in particular (my local IP address is 
> 192.168.x.x and my 
> > >domain is jemos.org:
> > >
> > >A) <servername> element: I put here 192.168.x.x, 127.0.0.1 Is that 
> > >correct?
> > >B) What is <fecthpop> for? Shall I use it if I want my mails to be 
> > >delivered to my address?
> > >C) <dnsserver> element: I put here 192.168.x.x  Is that correct?
> > >D) <helloName> elements (for POP3 and SMTP): what shall I 
> put here? I 
> > >put mail.jemos.org and pop.jemos.org but it doesn't work
> > >
> > >
> > >Thank you for your patiente,
> > >
> > >Marco Tedone
> > >
> > 
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> > >
> > 
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[NEWBIE] Configuration info - Problem solved - TOTALLY NOW

Posted by Marco Tedone <m_...@hotmail.com>.
Steve, the problem was that outgoing messages were scanned by Norton and
then put in the deadletter table. To solve the problem mainly I followed
the instructions at the following link:

http://james.apache.org/smtp_auth_2_1.html

Then, I had a look at my configuration files, at your mails, at other
mails, then I added the 'My server requires authentication' in Outlook
Express and finally I solved the problem: I'm very happy now :-)

If interested I could write a document (PDF?) with my final
configuration and post it to the mlist; I won't put it yet on my website
as I'm assemblying a server now which will run as web server 24h/days
7days/week. At present http/mail servers are running on my laptop which
I don't want to keep switched on 24h a day (it's my precious, my little
precious :-)).

Thank you for your help, all the best.

Marco

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve [mailto:steve@browsermedia.com] 
> Sent: 25 April 2003 19:59
> To: James Users List; mtedone@jemos.org
> Subject: Re: [NEWBIE] Configuration info - Problem solved 
> (2/3) - A little bit of documentation
> 
> 
> Could you describe "receive an error"? Do you get an email 
> reply? Or is it a popup status window while you are 
> connecting/sending? In either case, what is the message you 
> receive? Did you follow my suggestion to enable SMTP 
> authorization; if so, did you configure OutlookExpress as "My 
> Server requires authentication" in the 
> account-->connection-->Outgoing messages properties?
> 
> On your james server, open a command propmpt and enter 
> "ipconfig /all". What does it list as the DNS? This is the 
> value you want to enter as the DNS <server> in James config.
> 
> I am a little clear on your ip addressing. What are you using 
> for a router? Is it dedicated hardware, or a computer with a 
> shared Internet connection? Also, did you mean to say your 
> address is being assigned by a "DHCP" server? (Or perhaps you 
> are using a Hub-firewall-router all-in-one device?)
> 
> Steve
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marco Tedone" <m_...@hotmail.com>
> To: "'James Users List'" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 1:05 PM
> Subject: [NEWBIE] Configuration info - Problem solved (2/3) - 
> A little bit of documentation
> 
> 
> > Steve, thanks a lot for your mail, it helped a lot. To 
> resume also for 
> > other users (as it seems that configuration problem is 
> diffused) here 
> > what I've done:
> >
> > MY CONFIGURATION:
> >
> > OS: Windows XP Pro SP1
> > IP address: Dynamically assigned by DNS server (but as I am the 
> > router's owner, it is always the first assigned, therefore 
> the same); 
> > let's say 192.168.x.x DNS Server: My router's IP address: 
> 192.168.x.1
> > My domain:  jemos.org
> >
> > Here follows the config.xml elements I set up:
> >
> > <servername>jemos.org</servername>
> > .
> > .
> > <dnsserver>
> >   <servers>
> >     <!-- This is the router's IP address -->
> >     <server>192.168.x.1</server>
> >   </servers>
> > </dnsserver>
> > .
> > .
> > <remotemanager>
> >   <port>4555</port>
> >   <handler>
> >     <helloName autodetect="true">blablabla</helloName>
> >     <administrator_accounts>
> >       <account login="me" password="mypwd" />
> >     </administrator_accounts>
> >    ..The rest is the same
> > </remotemanager>
> >
> > Then, I added a user:
> >
> > Telnet 192.168.x.x 4555
> > userName
> > Pwd
> >
> > -> adduser [user]  [password]    //For user don't use the 
> domain. So if
> > you want to add trial@mydomain.com just add trial
> >
> > That's all
> >
> > I then added an email account with Outlook Express giving 
> as POP3 the 
> > 192.168.x.x. (the same used for telnet). Then, from my 'real' email 
> > client I sent an email to trial@jemos.org, I checked the email with 
> > Outlook Express and the mail was received.
> >
> > The only thing which didn't work has been the SMTP 
> configuration. When 
> > I
> > *send* an email from Outlook Express (so using 
> trial@jemos.org) to my
> > 'real' email address, I receive an error, indicating that 
> at present I
> > can receive mails but I cannot send emails.
> >
> > Hope it will help
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Steve [mailto:steve@browsermedia.com]
> > > Sent: 25 April 2003 16:48
> > > To: James Users List
> > > Subject: Re: [NEWBIE] Configuration info
> > >
> > >
> > > I have a similar setup. Here are a couple of suggestions I would 
> > > offer based on my own experience (in no particular order):
> > >
> > >  1) The DNS value for James may be the ip address of the router.
> > >         (actually, my "router" is a WindowsXP box with a
> > >         shared Internet connection and the firewall enabled.)
> > >         I am not an expert on routers, so this may differ -
> > >         this was also true, however, when I used WinProxy.
> > >
> > >  2) I ran into problems where my router made all emails look like
> > >         they were from the local network (an open relay). I would
> > >         suggest that you comment-out the
> > >         "<mailet match="RemoteAddrNotInNetwor..." hive
> > >         and enable the <authRequired>true</authRequired>
> > >         in the smtp section.
> > >         Also, this was important since my "router" is dynamically
> > >         assigned an ip address. This prevented me from setting
> > >         a static value to RemoteAddrNotInNetwork.
> > >
> > > 3) Your domain name should be simply jemos.org (w/o the
> > >         www.) if your email addresses are user@jemos.org.
> > >
> > > 4) After you verify the setup, use ORDB.org to test your
> > >         setup. They will eventually test your site anyway, so it
> > >         is best not to endup on their OR list.
> > >
> > > 5) It is a whole new level of setup issues (if you are new to db's
> > >     as well) but I would suggest using the db stores if you can.
> > >     It simplified things for me (orphaned emails after server
> > >     reboots comes to mind; but this may be fixed). It is also
> > >     recommended by the power-users in this group.
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Stephan Wiesner" <st...@stephan-wiesner.de>
> > > To: "James Users List" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 1:16 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [NEWBIE] Configuration info
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Marco,
> > > > I am not sure about your configuration. You installed 
> James on the 
> > > > machine with the domain name jemos, is that correct? If so, put 
> > > > www.jemos.org in <servername>. But your other values sound
> > > as if you
> > > > have it on a local machine? Then put localhost or 127.0.0.1
> > > in there.
> > > > You will not be able to receive mails via the Internet 
> to such an 
> > > > address, of course. You can enter your IP, but my mail
> > > provider does not
> > > > allow to send mails to IP addresses, so that still 
> might not work.
> > > >
> > > > Leave fetchpop alone for a start. You don't need it to send and 
> > > > receive mails.
> > > >
> > > > You can leave the hellonames to the default values (make sure 
> > > > autodetect is on).
> > > >
> > > > Stephan
> > > >
> > > > Marco Tedone wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Hi, this is my first time in the list...and my first time
> > > with a mail
> > > > >server. I installed the bin distribution of jamie 2.1.1
> > > and trying to
> > > > >configure it. I read the installation instructions but I
> > > must admit
> > > > >that I didn't' understand a lot.
> > > > >
> > > > >Here's my situation: I run a web site on my machine (a 
> local IP 
> > > > >address monitored by a router on an internet address). On
> > > my domain
> > > > >site I specified my internet fix IP address and on my
> > > router my local
> > > > >IP, so my web works. I added a POP3 and SMTP virtual 
> hosts to my 
> > > > >router, listening on the standard ports. Now I'm going
> > > trough jamie's
> > > > >config.xml file and I'm not sure about how to configure the IP 
> > > > >addresses, in particular (my local IP address is
> > > 192.168.x.x and my
> > > > >domain is jemos.org:
> > > > >
> > > > >A) <servername> element: I put here 192.168.x.x, 127.0.0.1 Is 
> > > > >that correct?
> > > > >B) What is <fecthpop> for? Shall I use it if I want my 
> mails to 
> > > > >be delivered to my address?
> > > > >C) <dnsserver> element: I put here 192.168.x.x  Is 
> that correct?
> > > > >D) <helloName> elements (for POP3 and SMTP): what shall I
> > > put here? I
> > > > >put mail.jemos.org and pop.jemos.org but it doesn't work
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Thank you for your patiente,
> > > > >
> > > > >Marco Tedone
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > 
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> > > >
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> > > >
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Re: [NEWBIE] Configuration info - Problem solved (2/3) - A little bit of documentation

Posted by Steve <st...@browsermedia.com>.
Could you describe "receive an error"? Do you get an email reply? Or is it a
popup status window while you are connecting/sending? In either case, what
is the message you receive? Did you follow my suggestion to enable SMTP
authorization; if so, did you configure OutlookExpress as "My Server
requires authentication" in the account-->connection-->Outgoing messages
properties?

On your james server, open a command propmpt and enter "ipconfig /all". What
does it list as the DNS? This is the value you want to enter as the DNS
<server> in James config.

I am a little clear on your ip addressing. What are you using for a router?
Is it dedicated hardware, or a computer with a shared Internet connection?
Also, did you mean to say your address is being assigned by a "DHCP" server?
(Or perhaps you are using a Hub-firewall-router all-in-one device?)

Steve

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marco Tedone" <m_...@hotmail.com>
To: "'James Users List'" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 1:05 PM
Subject: [NEWBIE] Configuration info - Problem solved (2/3) - A little bit
of documentation


> Steve, thanks a lot for your mail, it helped a lot. To resume also for
> other users (as it seems that configuration problem is diffused) here
> what I've done:
>
> MY CONFIGURATION:
>
> OS: Windows XP Pro SP1
> IP address: Dynamically assigned by DNS server (but as I am the
> router's owner, it is always the first assigned, therefore the same);
> let's say 192.168.x.x
> DNS Server: My router's IP address: 192.168.x.1
> My domain:  jemos.org
>
> Here follows the config.xml elements I set up:
>
> <servername>jemos.org</servername>
> .
> .
> <dnsserver>
>   <servers>
>     <!-- This is the router's IP address -->
>     <server>192.168.x.1</server>
>   </servers>
> </dnsserver>
> .
> .
> <remotemanager>
>   <port>4555</port>
>   <handler>
>     <helloName autodetect="true">blablabla</helloName>
>     <administrator_accounts>
>       <account login="me" password="mypwd" />
>     </administrator_accounts>
>    ..The rest is the same
> </remotemanager>
>
> Then, I added a user:
>
> Telnet 192.168.x.x 4555
> userName
> Pwd
>
> -> adduser [user]  [password]    //For user don't use the domain. So if
> you want to add trial@mydomain.com just add trial
>
> That's all
>
> I then added an email account with Outlook Express giving as POP3 the
> 192.168.x.x. (the same used for telnet). Then, from my 'real' email
> client I sent an email to trial@jemos.org, I checked the email with
> Outlook Express and the mail was received.
>
> The only thing which didn't work has been the SMTP configuration. When I
> *send* an email from Outlook Express (so using trial@jemos.org) to my
> 'real' email address, I receive an error, indicating that at present I
> can receive mails but I cannot send emails.
>
> Hope it will help
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve [mailto:steve@browsermedia.com]
> > Sent: 25 April 2003 16:48
> > To: James Users List
> > Subject: Re: [NEWBIE] Configuration info
> >
> >
> > I have a similar setup. Here are a couple of suggestions I
> > would offer based on my own experience (in no particular order):
> >
> >  1) The DNS value for James may be the ip address of the router.
> >         (actually, my "router" is a WindowsXP box with a
> >         shared Internet connection and the firewall enabled.)
> >         I am not an expert on routers, so this may differ -
> >         this was also true, however, when I used WinProxy.
> >
> >  2) I ran into problems where my router made all emails look like
> >         they were from the local network (an open relay). I would
> >         suggest that you comment-out the
> >         "<mailet match="RemoteAddrNotInNetwor..." hive
> >         and enable the <authRequired>true</authRequired>
> >         in the smtp section.
> >         Also, this was important since my "router" is dynamically
> >         assigned an ip address. This prevented me from setting
> >         a static value to RemoteAddrNotInNetwork.
> >
> > 3) Your domain name should be simply jemos.org (w/o the
> >         www.) if your email addresses are user@jemos.org.
> >
> > 4) After you verify the setup, use ORDB.org to test your
> >         setup. They will eventually test your site anyway, so it
> >         is best not to endup on their OR list.
> >
> > 5) It is a whole new level of setup issues (if you are new to db's
> >     as well) but I would suggest using the db stores if you can.
> >     It simplified things for me (orphaned emails after server
> >     reboots comes to mind; but this may be fixed). It is also
> >     recommended by the power-users in this group.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Stephan Wiesner" <st...@stephan-wiesner.de>
> > To: "James Users List" <ja...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 1:16 AM
> > Subject: Re: [NEWBIE] Configuration info
> >
> >
> > > Hi Marco,
> > > I am not sure about your configuration. You installed James on the
> > > machine with the domain name jemos, is that correct? If so, put
> > > www.jemos.org in <servername>. But your other values sound
> > as if you
> > > have it on a local machine? Then put localhost or 127.0.0.1
> > in there.
> > > You will not be able to receive mails via the Internet to such an
> > > address, of course. You can enter your IP, but my mail
> > provider does not
> > > allow to send mails to IP addresses, so that still might not work.
> > >
> > > Leave fetchpop alone for a start. You don't need it to send and
> > > receive
> > > mails.
> > >
> > > You can leave the hellonames to the default values (make sure
> > > autodetect
> > > is on).
> > >
> > > Stephan
> > >
> > > Marco Tedone wrote:
> > >
> > > >Hi, this is my first time in the list...and my first time
> > with a mail
> > > >server. I installed the bin distribution of jamie 2.1.1
> > and trying to
> > > >configure it. I read the installation instructions but I
> > must admit
> > > >that I didn't' understand a lot.
> > > >
> > > >Here's my situation: I run a web site on my machine (a local IP
> > > >address monitored by a router on an internet address). On
> > my domain
> > > >site I specified my internet fix IP address and on my
> > router my local
> > > >IP, so my web works. I added a POP3 and SMTP virtual hosts to my
> > > >router, listening on the standard ports. Now I'm going
> > trough jamie's
> > > >config.xml file and I'm not sure about how to configure the IP
> > > >addresses, in particular (my local IP address is
> > 192.168.x.x and my
> > > >domain is jemos.org:
> > > >
> > > >A) <servername> element: I put here 192.168.x.x, 127.0.0.1 Is that
> > > >correct?
> > > >B) What is <fecthpop> for? Shall I use it if I want my mails to be
> > > >delivered to my address?
> > > >C) <dnsserver> element: I put here 192.168.x.x  Is that correct?
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RE: [NEWBIE] Configuration info - Problem solved (2/3) - A little bit of documentation

Posted by Danny Angus <da...@apache.org>.
> The only thing which didn't work has been the SMTP configuration. When I
> *send* an email from Outlook Express (so using trial@jemos.org) to my
> 'real' email address, I receive an error, indicating that at present I
> can receive mails but I cannot send emails.

seems like you're probably not using the correct DNS settings, check the DNS server settings in the network information of the machine hosting James and use them.

If this machine is using DHCP or something to Have DNS servers automatically assigned either ask the person who knows or check the settings of the machine which issues them.

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