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Posted to dev@shindig.apache.org by Neo Anderson <ne...@googlemail.com> on 2008/05/20 15:02:29 UTC
Gadgets Drag and drop
Is any one familiar with Drag and Drop of Gadgets?
Any one tried this?
Re: Gadgets Drag and drop
Posted by Chris Chabot <ch...@xs4all.nl>.
<yoda voice>
There is no try, there is only do
<yoda voice>
Setting up drag and drop is 'very easy' (depending on your level of
experience with such things of course). But as mentioned before not
really something that belongs on a shindig development list (which is
all about making the opensocial infrastructure, not general front end
development)
For instance if you took http://github.com/madrobby/scriptaculous/wikis/draggable
You would just create a div around the gadgets (thats the
'id_of_element' element), set the handle to your 'id_of_title_bar'
element, and create the draggable ... the same pretty much goes for
jQuery, dojo, etc.
The question of 'how to make drag and dropable gadgets' really is just
a question of 'how to make a element on the page drag and droppable',
the gadgets don't add any extra complexity to this, so it is just a
generic javascript question.
I would suggest using the scriptaculous / jquery / dojo forums and
mailing lists for finding out how to do this, since i think many of us
would appreciate it if we kept this to a shindig related developers
list, and not turn it into a 'general javascript help' list :)
-- Chris
On May 20, 2008, at 3:56 PM, Neo Anderson wrote:
> Yes.
>
> I know, there are a lot of libraries for this purpose. Did anyone
> tried
> this?
>
> On 5/20/08, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> That sounds like part of the gadget container rather than the core
>> gadget
>> server. If so, there are a number of JS libraries that make easier.
>> eg
>> jQuery or extJS, depending on what license you want and what level of
>> accessibility you are after.
>>
>> Is this what you meant by Drag and Drop ? (Ignore me if not)
>> Ian
>>
>>
>>
>> On 20 May 2008, at 14:02, Neo Anderson wrote:
>>
>> Is any one familiar with Drag and Drop of Gadgets?
>>>
>>> Any one tried this?
>>>
>>
>>
Re: Gadgets Drag and drop
Posted by Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk>.
Hmm,
There are parts of if that will work standalone, like the /flat and
/widgets parts, but the persistence service and data service sdata
does have bindings to the whole of the Sakai code base, which is about
2M lines of code. Its going to be a little hard to detach from that
code base since it manages sessions, authZ, groups, announcements,
authentication etc and all the other services.
So, if you have about 2G of disk free on a box with about 2G of ram 1
for eclipse, 1 for tomcat, and a few hours free, then you could go for
a full build, but thats not for the lighthearted, and it *will* be
painful... it takes at least 30 minutes to build from scratch.
At the moment, I dont have time to do a cut down build, of sdata ontop
of Jackrabbit only, but it might be possible in July if the client
side code does look interesting.
The persistence store in /flat and /widgets could relatively easily be
replaced by anything that will do PUT and GET and multipart POST
Bear in mind, that this does *not* contain a gadget server or open
social at the moment and is only a portal layout manager with its own
concept of widget (an abstraction of gadget) within which gadgets can
be placed.
If you want more information, one of the developers has been keeping a
blog on the work
http://nicolaasmatthijs.wordpress.com/2008/04/15/flexible-dashboard-layout/
Ian
2008/6/9 Tyrell Perera <ty...@wso2.com>:
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> Thanks Ian,
>
> Will it be possible to post a link to a build (.zip or .war) of your
> portal? I took an svn checkout, but failed to build.
>
> Tyrell
>
> Ian Boston wrote:
> | Ok, so the response was....
> | yes, it will take about a week to get it though our production
> | testing, but we cant to anything until July
> |
> | Will bring non operational details back to the list.
> | Ian
> |
> | 2008/6/9 Tyrell Perera <ty...@wso2.com>:
> | Please keep the conversation in-list (at least for the sake of archiving).
> |
> | The container plays a vital role in adoption too. This thread answered
> | some of the questions I had.
> |
> | thanks,
> | Tyrell
> |
> |
> | Ian Boston wrote:
> | | Yes,.... taking this off list as its not really directly relevant to
> | | shindig dev. (please shout at me if thats not right, anyone)
> | |
> | | Ian
> | |
> | | 2008/6/9 Neo Anderson <ne...@googlemail.com>:
> | |> Can I see a demo?
> | |>
> | |> When will you move it to jQuery? How much time will it take?
> | |>
> | |>
> | |>
> | |> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
> | |>
> | |>> Yes the current impl is extJS based, but we are moving it to jQuery.
> | |>> Ian
> | |>>
> | |>> 2008/6/9 Neo Anderson <ne...@googlemail.com>:
> | |>>> Did you implemented it using ExtJS?
> | |>>>
> | |>>>
> | |>>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
> | |>>>
> | |>>>> We are currently porting to jQuery, because extJS has put
> | |>>>> accessibility at the end of its roadmap, and being a
> University... we
> | |>>>> have have a11y on our roadmap. Also.... its a bit of a nightmare to
> | |>>>> change extJS, and the download is huge by comparison to jQuery.
> | |>>>>
> | |>>>> It really quite simple to do, but we are in the middle of a
> production
> | |>>>> push so wont get to it for a few weeks.
> | |>>>>
> | |>>>> Ian
> | |>>>>
> | |>>>> 2008/6/9 Neo Anderson <ne...@googlemail.com>:
> | |>>>>> Does any one implemented it using jQuery or YUI?
> | |>>>>>
> | |>>>>>
> | |>>>>> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
> | |>>>>>
> | |>>>>>> Yes, see
> | |>>>>>>
> | |>>>>>>
> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
> | |>>>>>> files/flat/src/main/webapp/portal.html
> | |>>>>>>
> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
> | |>>>>>> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portal/
> | |>>>>>>
> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
> | |>>>>>> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portal.js
> | |>>>>>>
> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
> | |>>>>>> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portalLayout.js
> | |>>>>>>
> | |>>>>>> this version uses ExtJS, but it only does portal layout and
> drag and
> | |>>>> drop,
> | |>>>>>> not gadget rendering. portlets are divs filled with the gadget
> html.
> | |>>>>>>
> | |>>>>>>
> | |>>>>>> Ian
> | |>>>>>>
> | |>>>>>>
> | |>>>>>>
> | |>>>>>>
> | |>>>>>> On 20 May 2008, at 14:56, Neo Anderson wrote:
> | |>>>>>>
> | |>>>>>> Yes.
> | |>>>>>>> I know, there are a lot of libraries for this purpose. Did anyone
> | |>> tried
> | |>>>>>>> this?
> | |>>>>>>>
> | |>>>>>>> On 5/20/08, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
> | |>>>>>>>
> | |>>>>>>>> That sounds like part of the gadget container rather than
> the core
> | |>>>> gadget
> | |>>>>>>>> server. If so, there are a number of JS libraries that make
> | easier.
> | |>> eg
> | |>>>>>>>> jQuery or extJS, depending on what license you want and what
> level
> | |>> of
> | |>>>>>>>> accessibility you are after.
> | |>>>>>>>>
> | |>>>>>>>> Is this what you meant by Drag and Drop ? (Ignore me if not)
> | |>>>>>>>> Ian
> | |>>>>>>>>
> | |>>>>>>>>
> | |>>>>>>>>
> | |>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2008, at 14:02, Neo Anderson wrote:
> | |>>>>>>>>
> | |>>>>>>>> Is any one familiar with Drag and Drop of Gadgets?
> | |>>>>>>>>
> | |>>>>>>>>> Any one tried this?
> | |>>>>>>>>>
> | |>>>>>>>>>
> | |>>>>>>>>
> | |
> |
> |>
>
> - --
> Tyrell Perera
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> email: tyrell@wso2.com; cell: +94 77 302 2505
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Re: Gadgets Drag and drop
Posted by Tyrell Perera <ty...@wso2.com>.
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Thanks Ian,
Will it be possible to post a link to a build (.zip or .war) of your
portal? I took an svn checkout, but failed to build.
Tyrell
Ian Boston wrote:
| Ok, so the response was....
| yes, it will take about a week to get it though our production
| testing, but we cant to anything until July
|
| Will bring non operational details back to the list.
| Ian
|
| 2008/6/9 Tyrell Perera <ty...@wso2.com>:
| Please keep the conversation in-list (at least for the sake of archiving).
|
| The container plays a vital role in adoption too. This thread answered
| some of the questions I had.
|
| thanks,
| Tyrell
|
|
| Ian Boston wrote:
| | Yes,.... taking this off list as its not really directly relevant to
| | shindig dev. (please shout at me if thats not right, anyone)
| |
| | Ian
| |
| | 2008/6/9 Neo Anderson <ne...@googlemail.com>:
| |> Can I see a demo?
| |>
| |> When will you move it to jQuery? How much time will it take?
| |>
| |>
| |>
| |> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
| |>
| |>> Yes the current impl is extJS based, but we are moving it to jQuery.
| |>> Ian
| |>>
| |>> 2008/6/9 Neo Anderson <ne...@googlemail.com>:
| |>>> Did you implemented it using ExtJS?
| |>>>
| |>>>
| |>>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
| |>>>
| |>>>> We are currently porting to jQuery, because extJS has put
| |>>>> accessibility at the end of its roadmap, and being a
University... we
| |>>>> have have a11y on our roadmap. Also.... its a bit of a nightmare to
| |>>>> change extJS, and the download is huge by comparison to jQuery.
| |>>>>
| |>>>> It really quite simple to do, but we are in the middle of a
production
| |>>>> push so wont get to it for a few weeks.
| |>>>>
| |>>>> Ian
| |>>>>
| |>>>> 2008/6/9 Neo Anderson <ne...@googlemail.com>:
| |>>>>> Does any one implemented it using jQuery or YUI?
| |>>>>>
| |>>>>>
| |>>>>> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
| |>>>>>
| |>>>>>> Yes, see
| |>>>>>>
| |>>>>>>
https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
| |>>>>>> files/flat/src/main/webapp/portal.html
| |>>>>>>
https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
| |>>>>>> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portal/
| |>>>>>>
https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
| |>>>>>> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portal.js
| |>>>>>>
https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
| |>>>>>> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portalLayout.js
| |>>>>>>
| |>>>>>> this version uses ExtJS, but it only does portal layout and
drag and
| |>>>> drop,
| |>>>>>> not gadget rendering. portlets are divs filled with the gadget
html.
| |>>>>>>
| |>>>>>>
| |>>>>>> Ian
| |>>>>>>
| |>>>>>>
| |>>>>>>
| |>>>>>>
| |>>>>>> On 20 May 2008, at 14:56, Neo Anderson wrote:
| |>>>>>>
| |>>>>>> Yes.
| |>>>>>>> I know, there are a lot of libraries for this purpose. Did anyone
| |>> tried
| |>>>>>>> this?
| |>>>>>>>
| |>>>>>>> On 5/20/08, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
| |>>>>>>>
| |>>>>>>>> That sounds like part of the gadget container rather than
the core
| |>>>> gadget
| |>>>>>>>> server. If so, there are a number of JS libraries that make
| easier.
| |>> eg
| |>>>>>>>> jQuery or extJS, depending on what license you want and what
level
| |>> of
| |>>>>>>>> accessibility you are after.
| |>>>>>>>>
| |>>>>>>>> Is this what you meant by Drag and Drop ? (Ignore me if not)
| |>>>>>>>> Ian
| |>>>>>>>>
| |>>>>>>>>
| |>>>>>>>>
| |>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2008, at 14:02, Neo Anderson wrote:
| |>>>>>>>>
| |>>>>>>>> Is any one familiar with Drag and Drop of Gadgets?
| |>>>>>>>>
| |>>>>>>>>> Any one tried this?
| |>>>>>>>>>
| |>>>>>>>>>
| |>>>>>>>>
| |
|
|>
- --
Tyrell Perera
Senior Software Engineer; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/
email: tyrell@wso2.com; cell: +94 77 302 2505
"Oxygenating the Web Service Platform."
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Re: Gadgets Drag and drop
Posted by Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk>.
Ok, so the response was....
yes, it will take about a week to get it though our production
testing, but we cant to anything until July
Will bring non operational details back to the list.
Ian
2008/6/9 Tyrell Perera <ty...@wso2.com>:
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> Please keep the conversation in-list (at least for the sake of archiving).
>
> The container plays a vital role in adoption too. This thread answered
> some of the questions I had.
>
> thanks,
> Tyrell
>
>
> Ian Boston wrote:
> | Yes,.... taking this off list as its not really directly relevant to
> | shindig dev. (please shout at me if thats not right, anyone)
> |
> | Ian
> |
> | 2008/6/9 Neo Anderson <ne...@googlemail.com>:
> |> Can I see a demo?
> |>
> |> When will you move it to jQuery? How much time will it take?
> |>
> |>
> |>
> |> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
> |>
> |>> Yes the current impl is extJS based, but we are moving it to jQuery.
> |>> Ian
> |>>
> |>> 2008/6/9 Neo Anderson <ne...@googlemail.com>:
> |>>> Did you implemented it using ExtJS?
> |>>>
> |>>>
> |>>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
> |>>>
> |>>>> We are currently porting to jQuery, because extJS has put
> |>>>> accessibility at the end of its roadmap, and being a University... we
> |>>>> have have a11y on our roadmap. Also.... its a bit of a nightmare to
> |>>>> change extJS, and the download is huge by comparison to jQuery.
> |>>>>
> |>>>> It really quite simple to do, but we are in the middle of a production
> |>>>> push so wont get to it for a few weeks.
> |>>>>
> |>>>> Ian
> |>>>>
> |>>>> 2008/6/9 Neo Anderson <ne...@googlemail.com>:
> |>>>>> Does any one implemented it using jQuery or YUI?
> |>>>>>
> |>>>>>
> |>>>>> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
> |>>>>>
> |>>>>>> Yes, see
> |>>>>>>
> |>>>>>> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
> |>>>>>> files/flat/src/main/webapp/portal.html
> |>>>>>> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
> |>>>>>> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portal/
> |>>>>>> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
> |>>>>>> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portal.js
> |>>>>>> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
> |>>>>>> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portalLayout.js
> |>>>>>>
> |>>>>>> this version uses ExtJS, but it only does portal layout and drag and
> |>>>> drop,
> |>>>>>> not gadget rendering. portlets are divs filled with the gadget html.
> |>>>>>>
> |>>>>>>
> |>>>>>> Ian
> |>>>>>>
> |>>>>>>
> |>>>>>>
> |>>>>>>
> |>>>>>> On 20 May 2008, at 14:56, Neo Anderson wrote:
> |>>>>>>
> |>>>>>> Yes.
> |>>>>>>> I know, there are a lot of libraries for this purpose. Did anyone
> |>> tried
> |>>>>>>> this?
> |>>>>>>>
> |>>>>>>> On 5/20/08, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
> |>>>>>>>
> |>>>>>>>> That sounds like part of the gadget container rather than the core
> |>>>> gadget
> |>>>>>>>> server. If so, there are a number of JS libraries that make
> easier.
> |>> eg
> |>>>>>>>> jQuery or extJS, depending on what license you want and what level
> |>> of
> |>>>>>>>> accessibility you are after.
> |>>>>>>>>
> |>>>>>>>> Is this what you meant by Drag and Drop ? (Ignore me if not)
> |>>>>>>>> Ian
> |>>>>>>>>
> |>>>>>>>>
> |>>>>>>>>
> |>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2008, at 14:02, Neo Anderson wrote:
> |>>>>>>>>
> |>>>>>>>> Is any one familiar with Drag and Drop of Gadgets?
> |>>>>>>>>
> |>>>>>>>>> Any one tried this?
> |>>>>>>>>>
> |>>>>>>>>>
> |>>>>>>>>
> |
>
> - --
> Tyrell Perera
> Senior Software Engineer; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/
> email: tyrell@wso2.com; cell: +94 77 302 2505
>
> "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform."
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Re: Gadgets Drag and drop
Posted by Tyrell Perera <ty...@wso2.com>.
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Please keep the conversation in-list (at least for the sake of archiving).
The container plays a vital role in adoption too. This thread answered
some of the questions I had.
thanks,
Tyrell
Ian Boston wrote:
| Yes,.... taking this off list as its not really directly relevant to
| shindig dev. (please shout at me if thats not right, anyone)
|
| Ian
|
| 2008/6/9 Neo Anderson <ne...@googlemail.com>:
|> Can I see a demo?
|>
|> When will you move it to jQuery? How much time will it take?
|>
|>
|>
|> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
|>
|>> Yes the current impl is extJS based, but we are moving it to jQuery.
|>> Ian
|>>
|>> 2008/6/9 Neo Anderson <ne...@googlemail.com>:
|>>> Did you implemented it using ExtJS?
|>>>
|>>>
|>>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
|>>>
|>>>> We are currently porting to jQuery, because extJS has put
|>>>> accessibility at the end of its roadmap, and being a University... we
|>>>> have have a11y on our roadmap. Also.... its a bit of a nightmare to
|>>>> change extJS, and the download is huge by comparison to jQuery.
|>>>>
|>>>> It really quite simple to do, but we are in the middle of a production
|>>>> push so wont get to it for a few weeks.
|>>>>
|>>>> Ian
|>>>>
|>>>> 2008/6/9 Neo Anderson <ne...@googlemail.com>:
|>>>>> Does any one implemented it using jQuery or YUI?
|>>>>>
|>>>>>
|>>>>> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
|>>>>>
|>>>>>> Yes, see
|>>>>>>
|>>>>>> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
|>>>>>> files/flat/src/main/webapp/portal.html
|>>>>>> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
|>>>>>> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portal/
|>>>>>> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
|>>>>>> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portal.js
|>>>>>> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
|>>>>>> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portalLayout.js
|>>>>>>
|>>>>>> this version uses ExtJS, but it only does portal layout and drag and
|>>>> drop,
|>>>>>> not gadget rendering. portlets are divs filled with the gadget html.
|>>>>>>
|>>>>>>
|>>>>>> Ian
|>>>>>>
|>>>>>>
|>>>>>>
|>>>>>>
|>>>>>> On 20 May 2008, at 14:56, Neo Anderson wrote:
|>>>>>>
|>>>>>> Yes.
|>>>>>>> I know, there are a lot of libraries for this purpose. Did anyone
|>> tried
|>>>>>>> this?
|>>>>>>>
|>>>>>>> On 5/20/08, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
|>>>>>>>
|>>>>>>>> That sounds like part of the gadget container rather than the core
|>>>> gadget
|>>>>>>>> server. If so, there are a number of JS libraries that make
easier.
|>> eg
|>>>>>>>> jQuery or extJS, depending on what license you want and what level
|>> of
|>>>>>>>> accessibility you are after.
|>>>>>>>>
|>>>>>>>> Is this what you meant by Drag and Drop ? (Ignore me if not)
|>>>>>>>> Ian
|>>>>>>>>
|>>>>>>>>
|>>>>>>>>
|>>>>>>>> On 20 May 2008, at 14:02, Neo Anderson wrote:
|>>>>>>>>
|>>>>>>>> Is any one familiar with Drag and Drop of Gadgets?
|>>>>>>>>
|>>>>>>>>> Any one tried this?
|>>>>>>>>>
|>>>>>>>>>
|>>>>>>>>
|
- --
Tyrell Perera
Senior Software Engineer; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/
email: tyrell@wso2.com; cell: +94 77 302 2505
"Oxygenating the Web Service Platform."
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Re: Gadgets Drag and drop
Posted by Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk>.
Yes,.... taking this off list as its not really directly relevant to
shindig dev. (please shout at me if thats not right, anyone)
Ian
2008/6/9 Neo Anderson <ne...@googlemail.com>:
> Can I see a demo?
>
> When will you move it to jQuery? How much time will it take?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Yes the current impl is extJS based, but we are moving it to jQuery.
>> Ian
>>
>> 2008/6/9 Neo Anderson <ne...@googlemail.com>:
>> > Did you implemented it using ExtJS?
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> >> We are currently porting to jQuery, because extJS has put
>> >> accessibility at the end of its roadmap, and being a University... we
>> >> have have a11y on our roadmap. Also.... its a bit of a nightmare to
>> >> change extJS, and the download is huge by comparison to jQuery.
>> >>
>> >> It really quite simple to do, but we are in the middle of a production
>> >> push so wont get to it for a few weeks.
>> >>
>> >> Ian
>> >>
>> >> 2008/6/9 Neo Anderson <ne...@googlemail.com>:
>> >> > Does any one implemented it using jQuery or YUI?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Yes, see
>> >> >>
>> >> >> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
>> >> >> files/flat/src/main/webapp/portal.html
>> >> >> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
>> >> >> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portal/
>> >> >> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
>> >> >> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portal.js
>> >> >> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
>> >> >> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portalLayout.js
>> >> >>
>> >> >> this version uses ExtJS, but it only does portal layout and drag and
>> >> drop,
>> >> >> not gadget rendering. portlets are divs filled with the gadget html.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ian
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 20 May 2008, at 14:56, Neo Anderson wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Yes.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I know, there are a lot of libraries for this purpose. Did anyone
>> tried
>> >> >>> this?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 5/20/08, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> That sounds like part of the gadget container rather than the core
>> >> gadget
>> >> >>>> server. If so, there are a number of JS libraries that make easier.
>> eg
>> >> >>>> jQuery or extJS, depending on what license you want and what level
>> of
>> >> >>>> accessibility you are after.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Is this what you meant by Drag and Drop ? (Ignore me if not)
>> >> >>>> Ian
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On 20 May 2008, at 14:02, Neo Anderson wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Is any one familiar with Drag and Drop of Gadgets?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Any one tried this?
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
Re: Gadgets Drag and drop
Posted by Neo Anderson <ne...@googlemail.com>.
Can I see a demo?
When will you move it to jQuery? How much time will it take?
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
> Yes the current impl is extJS based, but we are moving it to jQuery.
> Ian
>
> 2008/6/9 Neo Anderson <ne...@googlemail.com>:
> > Did you implemented it using ExtJS?
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> We are currently porting to jQuery, because extJS has put
> >> accessibility at the end of its roadmap, and being a University... we
> >> have have a11y on our roadmap. Also.... its a bit of a nightmare to
> >> change extJS, and the download is huge by comparison to jQuery.
> >>
> >> It really quite simple to do, but we are in the middle of a production
> >> push so wont get to it for a few weeks.
> >>
> >> Ian
> >>
> >> 2008/6/9 Neo Anderson <ne...@googlemail.com>:
> >> > Does any one implemented it using jQuery or YUI?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Yes, see
> >> >>
> >> >> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
> >> >> files/flat/src/main/webapp/portal.html
> >> >> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
> >> >> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portal/
> >> >> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
> >> >> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portal.js
> >> >> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
> >> >> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portalLayout.js
> >> >>
> >> >> this version uses ExtJS, but it only does portal layout and drag and
> >> drop,
> >> >> not gadget rendering. portlets are divs filled with the gadget html.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Ian
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 20 May 2008, at 14:56, Neo Anderson wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I know, there are a lot of libraries for this purpose. Did anyone
> tried
> >> >>> this?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 5/20/08, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> That sounds like part of the gadget container rather than the core
> >> gadget
> >> >>>> server. If so, there are a number of JS libraries that make easier.
> eg
> >> >>>> jQuery or extJS, depending on what license you want and what level
> of
> >> >>>> accessibility you are after.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Is this what you meant by Drag and Drop ? (Ignore me if not)
> >> >>>> Ian
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On 20 May 2008, at 14:02, Neo Anderson wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Is any one familiar with Drag and Drop of Gadgets?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Any one tried this?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
>
Re: Gadgets Drag and drop
Posted by Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk>.
Yes the current impl is extJS based, but we are moving it to jQuery.
Ian
2008/6/9 Neo Anderson <ne...@googlemail.com>:
> Did you implemented it using ExtJS?
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> We are currently porting to jQuery, because extJS has put
>> accessibility at the end of its roadmap, and being a University... we
>> have have a11y on our roadmap. Also.... its a bit of a nightmare to
>> change extJS, and the download is huge by comparison to jQuery.
>>
>> It really quite simple to do, but we are in the middle of a production
>> push so wont get to it for a few weeks.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> 2008/6/9 Neo Anderson <ne...@googlemail.com>:
>> > Does any one implemented it using jQuery or YUI?
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Yes, see
>> >>
>> >> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
>> >> files/flat/src/main/webapp/portal.html
>> >> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
>> >> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portal/
>> >> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
>> >> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portal.js
>> >> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
>> >> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portalLayout.js
>> >>
>> >> this version uses ExtJS, but it only does portal layout and drag and
>> drop,
>> >> not gadget rendering. portlets are divs filled with the gadget html.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Ian
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 20 May 2008, at 14:56, Neo Anderson wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Yes.
>> >>>
>> >>> I know, there are a lot of libraries for this purpose. Did anyone tried
>> >>> this?
>> >>>
>> >>> On 5/20/08, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> That sounds like part of the gadget container rather than the core
>> gadget
>> >>>> server. If so, there are a number of JS libraries that make easier. eg
>> >>>> jQuery or extJS, depending on what license you want and what level of
>> >>>> accessibility you are after.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Is this what you meant by Drag and Drop ? (Ignore me if not)
>> >>>> Ian
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 20 May 2008, at 14:02, Neo Anderson wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Is any one familiar with Drag and Drop of Gadgets?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Any one tried this?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
Re: Gadgets Drag and drop
Posted by Neo Anderson <ne...@googlemail.com>.
Did you implemented it using ExtJS?
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
> We are currently porting to jQuery, because extJS has put
> accessibility at the end of its roadmap, and being a University... we
> have have a11y on our roadmap. Also.... its a bit of a nightmare to
> change extJS, and the download is huge by comparison to jQuery.
>
> It really quite simple to do, but we are in the middle of a production
> push so wont get to it for a few weeks.
>
> Ian
>
> 2008/6/9 Neo Anderson <ne...@googlemail.com>:
> > Does any one implemented it using jQuery or YUI?
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, see
> >>
> >> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
> >> files/flat/src/main/webapp/portal.html
> >> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
> >> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portal/
> >> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
> >> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portal.js
> >> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
> >> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portalLayout.js
> >>
> >> this version uses ExtJS, but it only does portal layout and drag and
> drop,
> >> not gadget rendering. portlets are divs filled with the gadget html.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ian
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 20 May 2008, at 14:56, Neo Anderson wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes.
> >>>
> >>> I know, there are a lot of libraries for this purpose. Did anyone tried
> >>> this?
> >>>
> >>> On 5/20/08, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> That sounds like part of the gadget container rather than the core
> gadget
> >>>> server. If so, there are a number of JS libraries that make easier. eg
> >>>> jQuery or extJS, depending on what license you want and what level of
> >>>> accessibility you are after.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is this what you meant by Drag and Drop ? (Ignore me if not)
> >>>> Ian
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 20 May 2008, at 14:02, Neo Anderson wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Is any one familiar with Drag and Drop of Gadgets?
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any one tried this?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >
>
Re: Gadgets Drag and drop
Posted by Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk>.
We are currently porting to jQuery, because extJS has put
accessibility at the end of its roadmap, and being a University... we
have have a11y on our roadmap. Also.... its a bit of a nightmare to
change extJS, and the download is huge by comparison to jQuery.
It really quite simple to do, but we are in the middle of a production
push so wont get to it for a few weeks.
Ian
2008/6/9 Neo Anderson <ne...@googlemail.com>:
> Does any one implemented it using jQuery or YUI?
>
>
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Yes, see
>>
>> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
>> files/flat/src/main/webapp/portal.html
>> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
>> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portal/
>> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
>> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portal.js
>> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
>> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portalLayout.js
>>
>> this version uses ExtJS, but it only does portal layout and drag and drop,
>> not gadget rendering. portlets are divs filled with the gadget html.
>>
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 20 May 2008, at 14:56, Neo Anderson wrote:
>>
>> Yes.
>>>
>>> I know, there are a lot of libraries for this purpose. Did anyone tried
>>> this?
>>>
>>> On 5/20/08, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> That sounds like part of the gadget container rather than the core gadget
>>>> server. If so, there are a number of JS libraries that make easier. eg
>>>> jQuery or extJS, depending on what license you want and what level of
>>>> accessibility you are after.
>>>>
>>>> Is this what you meant by Drag and Drop ? (Ignore me if not)
>>>> Ian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 20 May 2008, at 14:02, Neo Anderson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is any one familiar with Drag and Drop of Gadgets?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any one tried this?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
Re: Gadgets Drag and drop
Posted by Neo Anderson <ne...@googlemail.com>.
Does any one implemented it using jQuery or YUI?
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
> Yes, see
>
> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
> files/flat/src/main/webapp/portal.html
> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portal/
> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portal.js
> https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
> files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portalLayout.js
>
> this version uses ExtJS, but it only does portal layout and drag and drop,
> not gadget rendering. portlets are divs filled with the gadget html.
>
>
> Ian
>
>
>
>
> On 20 May 2008, at 14:56, Neo Anderson wrote:
>
> Yes.
>>
>> I know, there are a lot of libraries for this purpose. Did anyone tried
>> this?
>>
>> On 5/20/08, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> That sounds like part of the gadget container rather than the core gadget
>>> server. If so, there are a number of JS libraries that make easier. eg
>>> jQuery or extJS, depending on what license you want and what level of
>>> accessibility you are after.
>>>
>>> Is this what you meant by Drag and Drop ? (Ignore me if not)
>>> Ian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 20 May 2008, at 14:02, Neo Anderson wrote:
>>>
>>> Is any one familiar with Drag and Drop of Gadgets?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any one tried this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
Re: Gadgets Drag and drop
Posted by Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk>.
Yes, see
https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
files/flat/src/main/webapp/portal.html
https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portal/
https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portal.js
https://saffron.caret.cam.ac.uk/svn/projects/MyCamToolsAlpha/trunk/
files/flat/src/main/webapp/resources/javascript/portalLayout.js
this version uses ExtJS, but it only does portal layout and drag and
drop, not gadget rendering. portlets are divs filled with the gadget
html.
Ian
On 20 May 2008, at 14:56, Neo Anderson wrote:
> Yes.
>
> I know, there are a lot of libraries for this purpose. Did anyone
> tried
> this?
>
> On 5/20/08, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> That sounds like part of the gadget container rather than the core
>> gadget
>> server. If so, there are a number of JS libraries that make
>> easier. eg
>> jQuery or extJS, depending on what license you want and what level of
>> accessibility you are after.
>>
>> Is this what you meant by Drag and Drop ? (Ignore me if not)
>> Ian
>>
>>
>>
>> On 20 May 2008, at 14:02, Neo Anderson wrote:
>>
>> Is any one familiar with Drag and Drop of Gadgets?
>>>
>>> Any one tried this?
>>>
>>
>>
Re: Gadgets Drag and drop
Posted by Neo Anderson <ne...@googlemail.com>.
Yes.
I know, there are a lot of libraries for this purpose. Did anyone tried
this?
On 5/20/08, Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk> wrote:
>
> That sounds like part of the gadget container rather than the core gadget
> server. If so, there are a number of JS libraries that make easier. eg
> jQuery or extJS, depending on what license you want and what level of
> accessibility you are after.
>
> Is this what you meant by Drag and Drop ? (Ignore me if not)
> Ian
>
>
>
> On 20 May 2008, at 14:02, Neo Anderson wrote:
>
> Is any one familiar with Drag and Drop of Gadgets?
>>
>> Any one tried this?
>>
>
>
Re: Gadgets Drag and drop
Posted by Ian Boston <ie...@tfd.co.uk>.
That sounds like part of the gadget container rather than the core
gadget server. If so, there are a number of JS libraries that make
easier. eg jQuery or extJS, depending on what license you want and
what level of accessibility you are after.
Is this what you meant by Drag and Drop ? (Ignore me if not)
Ian
On 20 May 2008, at 14:02, Neo Anderson wrote:
> Is any one familiar with Drag and Drop of Gadgets?
>
> Any one tried this?