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[trademark] The term "Strutsathon"
Hello folks,
as you know I previously invented the term "Strutsathon" for the first
Strutsathon in Augsburg:
http://strutsathon.opensource.io/
Now I saw Lukasz is using the term for one in Warsaw. I sense a pattern
and hope there will be more Strutsathons to follow!
As I invented the term "Strutsathon" I believe I have some ownership in
it, despite the fact I use the ASF trademark "Struts".
If I have any rights on it, I donate it to the project.
Then I believe we should add this term to our trademark information on
the bottom of every page:
"Copyright © 2000-2013 The Apache Software Foundation. All Rights
Reserved. Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon, Apache, the Apache feather
logo, and the Apache Struts project logos are trademarks of The Apache
Software Foundation."
PMC members who organize Strutsathons (or third parties whom we allowed
to do so) should write something like this to the bottom of their page:
"Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon and Apache are either registered
trademarks or trademarks of the Apache Software Foundation in the United
States and/or other countries, and are used with permission. The Apache
Software Foundation has no affiliation with and does not endorse, or
review the materials provided at this event, which is managed by
opensource.io."
(fyi: opensource.io is the brand i used to organize the strutsathon)
If you agree, I would like to add our new trademark here:
* www.apache.org/foundation/marks/list/index.html
And notify the trademarks team on this. I don't think there are
comparable trademarks out, we are a trend setter :-)
Finally I would like to push this kind of events and suggest we create
an official website for Struts related
events where we list for example the past event and also new events like
the Warsaw one.
Thoughts?
Cheers
Christian
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RE: [trademark] The term "Strutsathon"
Posted by Martin Gainty <mg...@hotmail.com>.
Polski:
rozpórka-maratoński
no nie?
> Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 15:31:04 -0400
> Subject: Re: [trademark] The term "Strutsathon"
> From: davelnewton@gmail.com
> To: dev@struts.apache.org
>
> Adding "-athon" is common, I'm not sure I understand why we're discussing
> it.
> On Oct 12, 2013 10:50 AM, "Frans Thamura" <fr...@meruvian.org> wrote:
>
> > Lukaz, your way will.inspiring.people to start the same way
> >
> > And good for all of us.
> >
> > F
> > On Oct 12, 2013 9:48 PM, "Christian Grobmeier" <gr...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 12 Oct 2013, at 16:20, Lukasz Lenart wrote:
> > >
> > > I must say "I'm sorry Christian!". I supposed ask you first before I
> > >> have used the name Strutshaton. I'm really sorry, I thought about that
> > >> but forget :(
> > >>
> > >
> > > Don't worry!
> > >
> > > I think it was great you have chosen the term and you should keep it.
> > > I see a good opportunity to improve our community work when we manage
> > > to establish the term Strutsathon.
> > >
> > > I have to say "Thank you" for the good idea to organize another
> > Strutsathon
> > > in Warsaw.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Thanks & kind regards
> > >> --
> > >> Łukasz
> > >> + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/
> > >>
> > >> 2013/10/12 Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>:
> > >>
> > >>> Hello folks,
> > >>>
> > >>> as you know I previously invented the term "Strutsathon" for the first
> > >>> Strutsathon in Augsburg:
> > >>> http://strutsathon.opensource.**io/ <http://strutsathon.opensource.io/
> > >
> > >>>
> > >>> Now I saw Lukasz is using the term for one in Warsaw. I sense a pattern
> > >>> and
> > >>> hope there will be more Strutsathons to follow!
> > >>>
> > >>> As I invented the term "Strutsathon" I believe I have some ownership in
> > >>> it,
> > >>> despite the fact I use the ASF trademark "Struts".
> > >>> If I have any rights on it, I donate it to the project.
> > >>>
> > >>> Then I believe we should add this term to our trademark information on
> > >>> the
> > >>> bottom of every page:
> > >>>
> > >>> "Copyright C 2000-2013 The Apache Software Foundation. All Rights
> > >>> Reserved.
> > >>> Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon, Apache, the Apache feather logo,
> > and
> > >>> the
> > >>> Apache Struts project logos are trademarks of The Apache Software
> > >>> Foundation."
> > >>>
> > >>> PMC members who organize Strutsathons (or third parties whom we allowed
> > >>> to
> > >>> do so) should write something like this to the bottom of their page:
> > >>>
> > >>> "Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon and Apache are either registered
> > >>> trademarks or trademarks of the Apache Software Foundation in the
> > United
> > >>> States and/or other countries, and are used with permission. The Apache
> > >>> Software Foundation has no affiliation with and does not endorse, or
> > >>> review
> > >>> the materials provided at this event, which is managed by
> > opensource.io
> > >>> ."
> > >>>
> > >>> (fyi: opensource.io is the brand i used to organize the strutsathon)
> > >>>
> > >>> If you agree, I would like to add our new trademark here:
> > >>>
> > >>> * www.apache.org/foundation/**marks/list/index.html<
> > http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/list/index.html>
> > >>>
> > >>> And notify the trademarks team on this. I don't think there are
> > >>> comparable
> > >>> trademarks out, we are a trend setter :-)
> > >>>
> > >>> Finally I would like to push this kind of events and suggest we create
> > an
> > >>> official website for Struts related
> > >>> events where we list for example the past event and also new events
> > like
> > >>> the
> > >>> Warsaw one.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thoughts?
> > >>>
> > >>> Cheers
> > >>> Christian
> > >>>
> > >>>
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> > >>> @grobmeier
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Re: [trademark] The term "Strutsathon"
Posted by Rene Gielen <re...@gmail.com>.
As a first reaction one might find the trademark discussion Christian
brought up a bit picky, but it isn't.
There has been a lot of traffic on the board list regarding trademark
issues last year, resulting in an enforced policy for PMCs to watch and
protect their and Apache's trademarks. You might have noticed that for
quite a few of subsequent board reports I added a trademark section.
Also, we updated our site to include an updated trademark footer and a
logo containing the copyright sign. This happened all along the lines of
the board requesting the PMCs to observe and enforce trademark
protection guidelines.
So what happened here? Christian coined the term "Strutsathon", and it
proved to attract interest, at least by others re-using it. Being aware
of the issues raised by the board regarding trademarks, Christian found
the term being worth to protect. As the originator of the term, he did a
formal donation to the Struts project so that we can protect it as a
trademark. This is in our best interest, since *we* as the Struts
project want to be in control of Struts related terms. We can happily
donate the right to use them to anybody who likes to. We would not be so
happy if EvilCorp registers an obviously Struts related trademark and
infringes us or our users for "naively" using it. In taking the first
step to formally add a term like this to our trademark assets, we keep
EvilCorp from being evil to us, which IMO a good thing.
While our first and foremost interest is to write, support and publish
great open source software, we as the PMC have to deal with formal
requirements from time to time. Please don't take this easy, as the
board and the membership won't take this easy either.
- René
Am 13.10.13 15:21, schrieb Christian Grobmeier:
> On 13 Oct 2013, at 14:05, Dave Newton wrote:
>
>> Meh. What does it matter?
>
> You mean, why should we support Hackathons around Struts?
> Or why should we protect our trademarks?
>
> The first question is obvious. So more so better.
>
> The second question: I followed the problems of Hadoop, CouchDB and so on.
> If we generally allow the use of the term Strutsathon we can not ask for
> respecting
> our trademarks if a commercial entity abuses it (in our eyes).
>
> I believe it should be in the hands of the PMC to keep control of
> Strutsathons and protecting
> the trademark of it is in my opinion a first step.
>
> Cheers
> Christian
>
>> On Oct 12, 2013 5:44 PM, "Christian Grobmeier" <gr...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12 Oct 2013, at 21:31, Dave Newton wrote:
>>>
>>> Adding "-athon" is common, I'm not sure I understand why we're
>>> discussing
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Please read my initial email. Besides adding it as a trademark, I
>>> suggest
>>> to create some pages to support community driven Strutsathons
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 12, 2013 10:50 AM, "Frans Thamura" <fr...@meruvian.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Lukaz, your way will.inspiring.people to start the same way
>>>>>
>>>>> And good for all of us.
>>>>>
>>>>> F
>>>>> On Oct 12, 2013 9:48 PM, "Christian Grobmeier" <gr...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12 Oct 2013, at 16:20, Lukasz Lenart wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I must say "I'm sorry Christian!". I supposed ask you first before I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> have used the name Strutshaton. I'm really sorry, I thought about
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> but forget :(
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't worry!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it was great you have chosen the term and you should keep it.
>>>>>> I see a good opportunity to improve our community work when we manage
>>>>>> to establish the term Strutsathon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have to say "Thank you" for the good idea to organize another
>>>>>>
>>>>> Strutsathon
>>>>>
>>>>>> in Warsaw.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks & kind regards
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Łukasz
>>>>>>> + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2013/10/12 Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> as you know I previously invented the term "Strutsathon" for the
>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>> Strutsathon in Augsburg:
>>>>>>>> http://strutsathon.opensource.****io/ <http://strutsathon.**
>>>>>>>> opensource.io/ <http://strutsathon.opensource.io/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now I saw Lukasz is using the term for one in Warsaw. I sense a
>>>>>>>> pattern
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> hope there will be more Strutsathons to follow!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As I invented the term "Strutsathon" I believe I have some
>>>>>>>> ownership
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> it,
>>>>>>>> despite the fact I use the ASF trademark "Struts".
>>>>>>>> If I have any rights on it, I donate it to the project.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then I believe we should add this term to our trademark
>>>>>>>> information on
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> bottom of every page:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Copyright © 2000-2013 The Apache Software Foundation. All Rights
>>>>>>>> Reserved.
>>>>>>>> Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon, Apache, the Apache feather
>>>>>>>> logo,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Apache Struts project logos are trademarks of The Apache Software
>>>>>>>> Foundation."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PMC members who organize Strutsathons (or third parties whom we
>>>>>>>> allowed
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> do so) should write something like this to the bottom of their
>>>>>>>> page:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon and Apache are either
>>>>>>>> registered
>>>>>>>> trademarks or trademarks of the Apache Software Foundation in the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> United
>>>>>
>>>>>> States and/or other countries, and are used with permission. The
>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>> Software Foundation has no affiliation with and does not
>>>>>>>> endorse, or
>>>>>>>> review
>>>>>>>> the materials provided at this event, which is managed by
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> opensource.io
>>>>>
>>>>>> ."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (fyi: opensource.io is the brand i used to organize the
>>>>>>>> strutsathon)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you agree, I would like to add our new trademark here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>> www.apache.org/foundation/****marks/list/index.html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/**marks/list/index.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/list/index.**html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/list/index.html>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And notify the trademarks team on this. I don't think there are
>>>>>>>> comparable
>>>>>>>> trademarks out, we are a trend setter :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Finally I would like to push this kind of events and suggest we
>>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>
>>>>>> official website for Struts related
>>>>>>>> events where we list for example the past event and also new events
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Warsaw one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>>>>>>> @grobmeier
>>>>>>>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------****----------------------------**--**
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---------
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.**org<de...@struts.apache.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
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>>>>>> @grobmeier
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> ---
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Re: [trademark] The term "Strutsathon"
Posted by Lukasz Lenart <lu...@apache.org>.
I think I understand what Dave meant ... but anyway, I'm up to what
Christian proposed, thus will give clear signal and allows others
(Strutsathon organisers) use the trademark without embarrassment ;-)
Kind regards
--
Łukasz
+ 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/
2013/10/13 Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>:
> On 13 Oct 2013, at 14:05, Dave Newton wrote:
>
>> Meh. What does it matter?
>
>
> You mean, why should we support Hackathons around Struts?
> Or why should we protect our trademarks?
>
> The first question is obvious. So more so better.
>
> The second question: I followed the problems of Hadoop, CouchDB and so on.
> If we generally allow the use of the term Strutsathon we can not ask for
> respecting
> our trademarks if a commercial entity abuses it (in our eyes).
>
> I believe it should be in the hands of the PMC to keep control of
> Strutsathons and protecting
> the trademark of it is in my opinion a first step.
>
> Cheers
> Christian
>
>
>> On Oct 12, 2013 5:44 PM, "Christian Grobmeier" <gr...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12 Oct 2013, at 21:31, Dave Newton wrote:
>>>
>>> Adding "-athon" is common, I'm not sure I understand why we're discussing
>>>>
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Please read my initial email. Besides adding it as a trademark, I suggest
>>> to create some pages to support community driven Strutsathons
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 12, 2013 10:50 AM, "Frans Thamura" <fr...@meruvian.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lukaz, your way will.inspiring.people to start the same way
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And good for all of us.
>>>>>
>>>>> F
>>>>> On Oct 12, 2013 9:48 PM, "Christian Grobmeier" <gr...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12 Oct 2013, at 16:20, Lukasz Lenart wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I must say "I'm sorry Christian!". I supposed ask you first before I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> have used the name Strutshaton. I'm really sorry, I thought about
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> but forget :(
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't worry!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it was great you have chosen the term and you should keep it.
>>>>>> I see a good opportunity to improve our community work when we manage
>>>>>> to establish the term Strutsathon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have to say "Thank you" for the good idea to organize another
>>>>>>
>>>>> Strutsathon
>>>>>
>>>>>> in Warsaw.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks & kind regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Łukasz
>>>>>>> + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2013/10/12 Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> as you know I previously invented the term "Strutsathon" for the
>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>> Strutsathon in Augsburg:
>>>>>>>> http://strutsathon.opensource.****io/ <http://strutsathon.**
>>>>>>>> opensource.io/ <http://strutsathon.opensource.io/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now I saw Lukasz is using the term for one in Warsaw. I sense a
>>>>>>>> pattern
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> hope there will be more Strutsathons to follow!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As I invented the term "Strutsathon" I believe I have some ownership
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> it,
>>>>>>>> despite the fact I use the ASF trademark "Struts".
>>>>>>>> If I have any rights on it, I donate it to the project.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then I believe we should add this term to our trademark information
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> bottom of every page:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Copyright © 2000-2013 The Apache Software Foundation. All Rights
>>>>>>>> Reserved.
>>>>>>>> Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon, Apache, the Apache feather logo,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apache Struts project logos are trademarks of The Apache Software
>>>>>>>> Foundation."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PMC members who organize Strutsathons (or third parties whom we
>>>>>>>> allowed
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> do so) should write something like this to the bottom of their page:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon and Apache are either registered
>>>>>>>> trademarks or trademarks of the Apache Software Foundation in the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> United
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> States and/or other countries, and are used with permission. The
>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Software Foundation has no affiliation with and does not endorse, or
>>>>>>>> review
>>>>>>>> the materials provided at this event, which is managed by
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> opensource.io
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> ."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (fyi: opensource.io is the brand i used to organize the strutsathon)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you agree, I would like to add our new trademark here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>> www.apache.org/foundation/****marks/list/index.html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/**marks/list/index.html>
>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/list/index.**html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/list/index.html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And notify the trademarks team on this. I don't think there are
>>>>>>>> comparable
>>>>>>>> trademarks out, we are a trend setter :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Finally I would like to push this kind of events and suggest we
>>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> official website for Struts related
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> events where we list for example the past event and also new events
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Warsaw one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>>>>>>> @grobmeier
>>>>>>>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------****----------------------------**--**
>>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.****org<
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.**org<de...@struts.apache.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@struts.apache.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>>>>> @grobmeier
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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Re: [trademark] The term "Strutsathon"
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
On 13 Oct 2013, at 14:05, Dave Newton wrote:
> Meh. What does it matter?
You mean, why should we support Hackathons around Struts?
Or why should we protect our trademarks?
The first question is obvious. So more so better.
The second question: I followed the problems of Hadoop, CouchDB and so
on.
If we generally allow the use of the term Strutsathon we can not ask for
respecting
our trademarks if a commercial entity abuses it (in our eyes).
I believe it should be in the hands of the PMC to keep control of
Strutsathons and protecting
the trademark of it is in my opinion a first step.
Cheers
Christian
> On Oct 12, 2013 5:44 PM, "Christian Grobmeier" <gr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 12 Oct 2013, at 21:31, Dave Newton wrote:
>>
>> Adding "-athon" is common, I'm not sure I understand why we're
>> discussing
>>> it.
>>>
>>
>> Please read my initial email. Besides adding it as a trademark, I
>> suggest
>> to create some pages to support community driven Strutsathons
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 12, 2013 10:50 AM, "Frans Thamura" <fr...@meruvian.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Lukaz, your way will.inspiring.people to start the same way
>>>>
>>>> And good for all of us.
>>>>
>>>> F
>>>> On Oct 12, 2013 9:48 PM, "Christian Grobmeier"
>>>> <gr...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 12 Oct 2013, at 16:20, Lukasz Lenart wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I must say "I'm sorry Christian!". I supposed ask you first before
>>>>> I
>>>>>
>>>>>> have used the name Strutshaton. I'm really sorry, I thought about
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> but forget :(
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Don't worry!
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it was great you have chosen the term and you should keep
>>>>> it.
>>>>> I see a good opportunity to improve our community work when we
>>>>> manage
>>>>> to establish the term Strutsathon.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have to say "Thank you" for the good idea to organize another
>>>>>
>>>> Strutsathon
>>>>
>>>>> in Warsaw.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks & kind regards
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Łukasz
>>>>>> + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/10/12 Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> as you know I previously invented the term "Strutsathon" for the
>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>> Strutsathon in Augsburg:
>>>>>>> http://strutsathon.opensource.****io/ <http://strutsathon.**
>>>>>>> opensource.io/ <http://strutsathon.opensource.io/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now I saw Lukasz is using the term for one in Warsaw. I sense a
>>>>>>> pattern
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> hope there will be more Strutsathons to follow!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As I invented the term "Strutsathon" I believe I have some
>>>>>>> ownership
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> it,
>>>>>>> despite the fact I use the ASF trademark "Struts".
>>>>>>> If I have any rights on it, I donate it to the project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then I believe we should add this term to our trademark
>>>>>>> information on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> bottom of every page:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Copyright © 2000-2013 The Apache Software Foundation. All
>>>>>>> Rights
>>>>>>> Reserved.
>>>>>>> Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon, Apache, the Apache feather
>>>>>>> logo,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Apache Struts project logos are trademarks of The Apache
>>>>>>> Software
>>>>>>> Foundation."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PMC members who organize Strutsathons (or third parties whom we
>>>>>>> allowed
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> do so) should write something like this to the bottom of their
>>>>>>> page:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon and Apache are either
>>>>>>> registered
>>>>>>> trademarks or trademarks of the Apache Software Foundation in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> United
>>>>
>>>>> States and/or other countries, and are used with permission. The
>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>> Software Foundation has no affiliation with and does not
>>>>>>> endorse, or
>>>>>>> review
>>>>>>> the materials provided at this event, which is managed by
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> opensource.io
>>>>
>>>>> ."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (fyi: opensource.io is the brand i used to organize the
>>>>>>> strutsathon)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you agree, I would like to add our new trademark here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> www.apache.org/foundation/****marks/list/index.html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/**marks/list/index.html>
>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/list/index.**html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/list/index.html>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> And notify the trademarks team on this. I don't think there are
>>>>>>> comparable
>>>>>>> trademarks out, we are a trend setter :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Finally I would like to push this kind of events and suggest we
>>>>>>> create
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> an
>>>>
>>>>> official website for Struts related
>>>>>>> events where we list for example the past event and also new
>>>>>>> events
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> like
>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Warsaw one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>>>>>> @grobmeier
>>>>>>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------****----------------------------**--**
>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.****org<
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.**org<de...@struts.apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@struts.apache.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------****----------------------------**
>>>> --**---------
>>>>
>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.****org<
>>>>>>
>>>>> dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.**org
>>>>> <de...@struts.apache.org>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@struts.apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>>>> @grobmeier
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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Re: [trademark] The term "Strutsathon"
Posted by Dave Newton <da...@gmail.com>.
Meh. What does it matter?
On Oct 12, 2013 5:44 PM, "Christian Grobmeier" <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12 Oct 2013, at 21:31, Dave Newton wrote:
>
> Adding "-athon" is common, I'm not sure I understand why we're discussing
>> it.
>>
>
> Please read my initial email. Besides adding it as a trademark, I suggest
> to create some pages to support community driven Strutsathons
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 12, 2013 10:50 AM, "Frans Thamura" <fr...@meruvian.org> wrote:
>>
>> Lukaz, your way will.inspiring.people to start the same way
>>>
>>> And good for all of us.
>>>
>>> F
>>> On Oct 12, 2013 9:48 PM, "Christian Grobmeier" <gr...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12 Oct 2013, at 16:20, Lukasz Lenart wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I must say "I'm sorry Christian!". I supposed ask you first before I
>>>>
>>>>> have used the name Strutshaton. I'm really sorry, I thought about that
>>>>> but forget :(
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Don't worry!
>>>>
>>>> I think it was great you have chosen the term and you should keep it.
>>>> I see a good opportunity to improve our community work when we manage
>>>> to establish the term Strutsathon.
>>>>
>>>> I have to say "Thank you" for the good idea to organize another
>>>>
>>> Strutsathon
>>>
>>>> in Warsaw.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks & kind regards
>>>>> --
>>>>> Łukasz
>>>>> + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/10/12 Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as you know I previously invented the term "Strutsathon" for the first
>>>>>> Strutsathon in Augsburg:
>>>>>> http://strutsathon.opensource.****io/ <http://strutsathon.**
>>>>>> opensource.io/ <http://strutsathon.opensource.io/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Now I saw Lukasz is using the term for one in Warsaw. I sense a
>>>>>> pattern
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> hope there will be more Strutsathons to follow!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I invented the term "Strutsathon" I believe I have some ownership
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> it,
>>>>>> despite the fact I use the ASF trademark "Struts".
>>>>>> If I have any rights on it, I donate it to the project.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then I believe we should add this term to our trademark information on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> bottom of every page:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Copyright © 2000-2013 The Apache Software Foundation. All Rights
>>>>>> Reserved.
>>>>>> Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon, Apache, the Apache feather logo,
>>>>>>
>>>>> and
>>>
>>>> the
>>>>>> Apache Struts project logos are trademarks of The Apache Software
>>>>>> Foundation."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PMC members who organize Strutsathons (or third parties whom we
>>>>>> allowed
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> do so) should write something like this to the bottom of their page:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon and Apache are either registered
>>>>>> trademarks or trademarks of the Apache Software Foundation in the
>>>>>>
>>>>> United
>>>
>>>> States and/or other countries, and are used with permission. The Apache
>>>>>> Software Foundation has no affiliation with and does not endorse, or
>>>>>> review
>>>>>> the materials provided at this event, which is managed by
>>>>>>
>>>>> opensource.io
>>>
>>>> ."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (fyi: opensource.io is the brand i used to organize the strutsathon)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you agree, I would like to add our new trademark here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * www.apache.org/foundation/****marks/list/index.html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/**marks/list/index.html>
>>>>>> <
>>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/list/index.**html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/list/index.html>
>>> >
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> And notify the trademarks team on this. I don't think there are
>>>>>> comparable
>>>>>> trademarks out, we are a trend setter :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Finally I would like to push this kind of events and suggest we create
>>>>>>
>>>>> an
>>>
>>>> official website for Struts related
>>>>>> events where we list for example the past event and also new events
>>>>>>
>>>>> like
>>>
>>>> the
>>>>>> Warsaw one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>>>>> @grobmeier
>>>>>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------****----------------------------**--**
>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.****org<
>>>>>>
>>>>> dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.**org<de...@struts.apache.org>
>>> >
>>>
>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@struts.apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------****----------------------------**
>>> --**---------
>>>
>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.****org<
>>>>>
>>>> dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.**org <de...@struts.apache.org>
>>> >
>>>
>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@struts.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>>> @grobmeier
>>>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
> ---
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> @grobmeier
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Re: [trademark] The term "Strutsathon"
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
On 12 Oct 2013, at 21:31, Dave Newton wrote:
> Adding "-athon" is common, I'm not sure I understand why we're
> discussing
> it.
Please read my initial email. Besides adding it as a trademark, I
suggest to create some pages to support community driven Strutsathons
> On Oct 12, 2013 10:50 AM, "Frans Thamura" <fr...@meruvian.org> wrote:
>
>> Lukaz, your way will.inspiring.people to start the same way
>>
>> And good for all of us.
>>
>> F
>> On Oct 12, 2013 9:48 PM, "Christian Grobmeier" <gr...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12 Oct 2013, at 16:20, Lukasz Lenart wrote:
>>>
>>> I must say "I'm sorry Christian!". I supposed ask you first before I
>>>> have used the name Strutshaton. I'm really sorry, I thought about
>>>> that
>>>> but forget :(
>>>>
>>>
>>> Don't worry!
>>>
>>> I think it was great you have chosen the term and you should keep
>>> it.
>>> I see a good opportunity to improve our community work when we
>>> manage
>>> to establish the term Strutsathon.
>>>
>>> I have to say "Thank you" for the good idea to organize another
>> Strutsathon
>>> in Warsaw.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks & kind regards
>>>> --
>>>> Łukasz
>>>> + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/
>>>>
>>>> 2013/10/12 Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> as you know I previously invented the term "Strutsathon" for the
>>>>> first
>>>>> Strutsathon in Augsburg:
>>>>> http://strutsathon.opensource.**io/
>>>>> <http://strutsathon.opensource.io/
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I saw Lukasz is using the term for one in Warsaw. I sense a
>>>>> pattern
>>>>> and
>>>>> hope there will be more Strutsathons to follow!
>>>>>
>>>>> As I invented the term "Strutsathon" I believe I have some
>>>>> ownership in
>>>>> it,
>>>>> despite the fact I use the ASF trademark "Struts".
>>>>> If I have any rights on it, I donate it to the project.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then I believe we should add this term to our trademark
>>>>> information on
>>>>> the
>>>>> bottom of every page:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Copyright © 2000-2013 The Apache Software Foundation. All Rights
>>>>> Reserved.
>>>>> Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon, Apache, the Apache feather
>>>>> logo,
>> and
>>>>> the
>>>>> Apache Struts project logos are trademarks of The Apache Software
>>>>> Foundation."
>>>>>
>>>>> PMC members who organize Strutsathons (or third parties whom we
>>>>> allowed
>>>>> to
>>>>> do so) should write something like this to the bottom of their
>>>>> page:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon and Apache are either
>>>>> registered
>>>>> trademarks or trademarks of the Apache Software Foundation in the
>> United
>>>>> States and/or other countries, and are used with permission. The
>>>>> Apache
>>>>> Software Foundation has no affiliation with and does not endorse,
>>>>> or
>>>>> review
>>>>> the materials provided at this event, which is managed by
>> opensource.io
>>>>> ."
>>>>>
>>>>> (fyi: opensource.io is the brand i used to organize the
>>>>> strutsathon)
>>>>>
>>>>> If you agree, I would like to add our new trademark here:
>>>>>
>>>>> * www.apache.org/foundation/**marks/list/index.html<
>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/list/index.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> And notify the trademarks team on this. I don't think there are
>>>>> comparable
>>>>> trademarks out, we are a trend setter :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally I would like to push this kind of events and suggest we
>>>>> create
>> an
>>>>> official website for Struts related
>>>>> events where we list for example the past event and also new
>>>>> events
>> like
>>>>> the
>>>>> Warsaw one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Christian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>>>> @grobmeier
>>>>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>>>> ---------
>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.**org<
>> dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.org>
>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@struts.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**---------
>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.**org<
>> dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.org>
>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@struts.apache.org
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>> @grobmeier
>>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB
>>
---
http://www.grobmeier.de
@grobmeier
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Re: [trademark] The term "Strutsathon"
Posted by Dave Newton <da...@gmail.com>.
Adding "-athon" is common, I'm not sure I understand why we're discussing
it.
On Oct 12, 2013 10:50 AM, "Frans Thamura" <fr...@meruvian.org> wrote:
> Lukaz, your way will.inspiring.people to start the same way
>
> And good for all of us.
>
> F
> On Oct 12, 2013 9:48 PM, "Christian Grobmeier" <gr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On 12 Oct 2013, at 16:20, Lukasz Lenart wrote:
> >
> > I must say "I'm sorry Christian!". I supposed ask you first before I
> >> have used the name Strutshaton. I'm really sorry, I thought about that
> >> but forget :(
> >>
> >
> > Don't worry!
> >
> > I think it was great you have chosen the term and you should keep it.
> > I see a good opportunity to improve our community work when we manage
> > to establish the term Strutsathon.
> >
> > I have to say "Thank you" for the good idea to organize another
> Strutsathon
> > in Warsaw.
> >
> >
> >
> >> Thanks & kind regards
> >> --
> >> Łukasz
> >> + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/
> >>
> >> 2013/10/12 Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >>> Hello folks,
> >>>
> >>> as you know I previously invented the term "Strutsathon" for the first
> >>> Strutsathon in Augsburg:
> >>> http://strutsathon.opensource.**io/ <http://strutsathon.opensource.io/
> >
> >>>
> >>> Now I saw Lukasz is using the term for one in Warsaw. I sense a pattern
> >>> and
> >>> hope there will be more Strutsathons to follow!
> >>>
> >>> As I invented the term "Strutsathon" I believe I have some ownership in
> >>> it,
> >>> despite the fact I use the ASF trademark "Struts".
> >>> If I have any rights on it, I donate it to the project.
> >>>
> >>> Then I believe we should add this term to our trademark information on
> >>> the
> >>> bottom of every page:
> >>>
> >>> "Copyright © 2000-2013 The Apache Software Foundation. All Rights
> >>> Reserved.
> >>> Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon, Apache, the Apache feather logo,
> and
> >>> the
> >>> Apache Struts project logos are trademarks of The Apache Software
> >>> Foundation."
> >>>
> >>> PMC members who organize Strutsathons (or third parties whom we allowed
> >>> to
> >>> do so) should write something like this to the bottom of their page:
> >>>
> >>> "Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon and Apache are either registered
> >>> trademarks or trademarks of the Apache Software Foundation in the
> United
> >>> States and/or other countries, and are used with permission. The Apache
> >>> Software Foundation has no affiliation with and does not endorse, or
> >>> review
> >>> the materials provided at this event, which is managed by
> opensource.io
> >>> ."
> >>>
> >>> (fyi: opensource.io is the brand i used to organize the strutsathon)
> >>>
> >>> If you agree, I would like to add our new trademark here:
> >>>
> >>> * www.apache.org/foundation/**marks/list/index.html<
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/list/index.html>
> >>>
> >>> And notify the trademarks team on this. I don't think there are
> >>> comparable
> >>> trademarks out, we are a trend setter :-)
> >>>
> >>> Finally I would like to push this kind of events and suggest we create
> an
> >>> official website for Struts related
> >>> events where we list for example the past event and also new events
> like
> >>> the
> >>> Warsaw one.
> >>>
> >>> Thoughts?
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Christian
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> http://www.grobmeier.de
> >>> @grobmeier
> >>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
> >>> ---------
> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.**org<
> dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.org>
> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@struts.apache.org
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> ------------------------------**------------------------------**---------
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.**org<
> dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.org>
> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@struts.apache.org
> >>
> >
> >
> > ---
> > http://www.grobmeier.de
> > @grobmeier
> > GPG: 0xA5CC90DB
>
Re: [trademark] The term "Strutsathon"
Posted by Frans Thamura <fr...@meruvian.org>.
Lukaz, your way will.inspiring.people to start the same way
And good for all of us.
F
On Oct 12, 2013 9:48 PM, "Christian Grobmeier" <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12 Oct 2013, at 16:20, Lukasz Lenart wrote:
>
> I must say "I'm sorry Christian!". I supposed ask you first before I
>> have used the name Strutshaton. I'm really sorry, I thought about that
>> but forget :(
>>
>
> Don't worry!
>
> I think it was great you have chosen the term and you should keep it.
> I see a good opportunity to improve our community work when we manage
> to establish the term Strutsathon.
>
> I have to say "Thank you" for the good idea to organize another Strutsathon
> in Warsaw.
>
>
>
>> Thanks & kind regards
>> --
>> Łukasz
>> + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/
>>
>> 2013/10/12 Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hello folks,
>>>
>>> as you know I previously invented the term "Strutsathon" for the first
>>> Strutsathon in Augsburg:
>>> http://strutsathon.opensource.**io/ <http://strutsathon.opensource.io/>
>>>
>>> Now I saw Lukasz is using the term for one in Warsaw. I sense a pattern
>>> and
>>> hope there will be more Strutsathons to follow!
>>>
>>> As I invented the term "Strutsathon" I believe I have some ownership in
>>> it,
>>> despite the fact I use the ASF trademark "Struts".
>>> If I have any rights on it, I donate it to the project.
>>>
>>> Then I believe we should add this term to our trademark information on
>>> the
>>> bottom of every page:
>>>
>>> "Copyright © 2000-2013 The Apache Software Foundation. All Rights
>>> Reserved.
>>> Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon, Apache, the Apache feather logo, and
>>> the
>>> Apache Struts project logos are trademarks of The Apache Software
>>> Foundation."
>>>
>>> PMC members who organize Strutsathons (or third parties whom we allowed
>>> to
>>> do so) should write something like this to the bottom of their page:
>>>
>>> "Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon and Apache are either registered
>>> trademarks or trademarks of the Apache Software Foundation in the United
>>> States and/or other countries, and are used with permission. The Apache
>>> Software Foundation has no affiliation with and does not endorse, or
>>> review
>>> the materials provided at this event, which is managed by opensource.io
>>> ."
>>>
>>> (fyi: opensource.io is the brand i used to organize the strutsathon)
>>>
>>> If you agree, I would like to add our new trademark here:
>>>
>>> * www.apache.org/foundation/**marks/list/index.html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/list/index.html>
>>>
>>> And notify the trademarks team on this. I don't think there are
>>> comparable
>>> trademarks out, we are a trend setter :-)
>>>
>>> Finally I would like to push this kind of events and suggest we create an
>>> official website for Struts related
>>> events where we list for example the past event and also new events like
>>> the
>>> Warsaw one.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Christian
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>> @grobmeier
>>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB
>>>
>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>> ---------
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.**org<de...@struts.apache.org>
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@struts.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**---------
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>>
>
>
> ---
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> @grobmeier
> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB
Re: [trademark] The term "Strutsathon"
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
On 12 Oct 2013, at 16:20, Lukasz Lenart wrote:
> I must say "I'm sorry Christian!". I supposed ask you first before I
> have used the name Strutshaton. I'm really sorry, I thought about that
> but forget :(
Don't worry!
I think it was great you have chosen the term and you should keep it.
I see a good opportunity to improve our community work when we manage
to establish the term Strutsathon.
I have to say "Thank you" for the good idea to organize another
Strutsathon
in Warsaw.
>
> Thanks & kind regards
> --
> Łukasz
> + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/
>
> 2013/10/12 Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>:
>> Hello folks,
>>
>> as you know I previously invented the term "Strutsathon" for the
>> first
>> Strutsathon in Augsburg:
>> http://strutsathon.opensource.io/
>>
>> Now I saw Lukasz is using the term for one in Warsaw. I sense a
>> pattern and
>> hope there will be more Strutsathons to follow!
>>
>> As I invented the term "Strutsathon" I believe I have some ownership
>> in it,
>> despite the fact I use the ASF trademark "Struts".
>> If I have any rights on it, I donate it to the project.
>>
>> Then I believe we should add this term to our trademark information
>> on the
>> bottom of every page:
>>
>> "Copyright © 2000-2013 The Apache Software Foundation. All Rights
>> Reserved.
>> Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon, Apache, the Apache feather logo,
>> and the
>> Apache Struts project logos are trademarks of The Apache Software
>> Foundation."
>>
>> PMC members who organize Strutsathons (or third parties whom we
>> allowed to
>> do so) should write something like this to the bottom of their page:
>>
>> "Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon and Apache are either registered
>> trademarks or trademarks of the Apache Software Foundation in the
>> United
>> States and/or other countries, and are used with permission. The
>> Apache
>> Software Foundation has no affiliation with and does not endorse, or
>> review
>> the materials provided at this event, which is managed by
>> opensource.io."
>>
>> (fyi: opensource.io is the brand i used to organize the strutsathon)
>>
>> If you agree, I would like to add our new trademark here:
>>
>> * www.apache.org/foundation/marks/list/index.html
>>
>> And notify the trademarks team on this. I don't think there are
>> comparable
>> trademarks out, we are a trend setter :-)
>>
>> Finally I would like to push this kind of events and suggest we
>> create an
>> official website for Struts related
>> events where we list for example the past event and also new events
>> like the
>> Warsaw one.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Christian
>>
>>
>> ---
>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>> @grobmeier
>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@struts.apache.org
>>
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Re: [trademark] The term "Strutsathon"
Posted by Lukasz Lenart <lu...@apache.org>.
I must say "I'm sorry Christian!". I supposed ask you first before I
have used the name Strutshaton. I'm really sorry, I thought about that
but forget :(
Thanks & kind regards
--
Łukasz
+ 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/
2013/10/12 Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>:
> Hello folks,
>
> as you know I previously invented the term "Strutsathon" for the first
> Strutsathon in Augsburg:
> http://strutsathon.opensource.io/
>
> Now I saw Lukasz is using the term for one in Warsaw. I sense a pattern and
> hope there will be more Strutsathons to follow!
>
> As I invented the term "Strutsathon" I believe I have some ownership in it,
> despite the fact I use the ASF trademark "Struts".
> If I have any rights on it, I donate it to the project.
>
> Then I believe we should add this term to our trademark information on the
> bottom of every page:
>
> "Copyright © 2000-2013 The Apache Software Foundation. All Rights Reserved.
> Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon, Apache, the Apache feather logo, and the
> Apache Struts project logos are trademarks of The Apache Software
> Foundation."
>
> PMC members who organize Strutsathons (or third parties whom we allowed to
> do so) should write something like this to the bottom of their page:
>
> "Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon and Apache are either registered
> trademarks or trademarks of the Apache Software Foundation in the United
> States and/or other countries, and are used with permission. The Apache
> Software Foundation has no affiliation with and does not endorse, or review
> the materials provided at this event, which is managed by opensource.io."
>
> (fyi: opensource.io is the brand i used to organize the strutsathon)
>
> If you agree, I would like to add our new trademark here:
>
> * www.apache.org/foundation/marks/list/index.html
>
> And notify the trademarks team on this. I don't think there are comparable
> trademarks out, we are a trend setter :-)
>
> Finally I would like to push this kind of events and suggest we create an
> official website for Struts related
> events where we list for example the past event and also new events like the
> Warsaw one.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Cheers
> Christian
>
>
> ---
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> @grobmeier
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Re: [trademark] The term "Strutsathon"
Posted by Frans Thamura <fr...@meruvian.org>.
Chris
My education since last year do hackathon
Yoi can see www.facebook.com/meruvian
Struts2 inside, because our.program use s2.
In conjuntion with spring and hibernate.
This is still a local program in Indonesia, specificly under Meruvian
foundation.
If more people support strutsatron, i willing add the program as pre of our
education program.
I love collaborate and mostly the student that join is 15-16 years.old here
On Oct 12, 2013 7:10 PM, "Christian Grobmeier" <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12 Oct 2013, at 12:57, Frans Thamura wrote:
>
> any idea to make it worldwide?
>>
>
> It would be great if there would be regular Strutsathons worldwide.
> I would definitely considering to travel when it's not to expensive.
> But I believe somebody in the region needs to organize that. The organizer
> should be on the PMC or work closely with the PMC in my opinion
>
>
> F
>> --
>> Frans Thamura (曽志胜)
>> Shadow Master and Lead Investor
>> Meruvian.
>> Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider.
>>
>> Mobile: +628557888699
>> Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/**roller/flatburger<http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger>(id)
>>
>> FB: http://www.facebook.com/**meruvian <http://www.facebook.com/meruvian>
>> TW: http://www.twitter.com/**meruvian <http://www.twitter.com/meruvian>/ @meruvian
>> Website: http://www.meruvian.org
>>
>> "We grow because we share the same belief."
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Christian Grobmeier
>> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello folks,
>>>
>>> as you know I previously invented the term "Strutsathon" for the first
>>> Strutsathon in Augsburg:
>>> http://strutsathon.opensource.**io/ <http://strutsathon.opensource.io/>
>>>
>>> Now I saw Lukasz is using the term for one in Warsaw. I sense a pattern
>>> and
>>> hope there will be more Strutsathons to follow!
>>>
>>> As I invented the term "Strutsathon" I believe I have some ownership in
>>> it,
>>> despite the fact I use the ASF trademark "Struts".
>>> If I have any rights on it, I donate it to the project.
>>>
>>> Then I believe we should add this term to our trademark information on
>>> the
>>> bottom of every page:
>>>
>>> "Copyright © 2000-2013 The Apache Software Foundation. All Rights
>>> Reserved.
>>> Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon, Apache, the Apache feather logo, and
>>> the
>>> Apache Struts project logos are trademarks of The Apache Software
>>> Foundation."
>>>
>>> PMC members who organize Strutsathons (or third parties whom we allowed
>>> to
>>> do so) should write something like this to the bottom of their page:
>>>
>>> "Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon and Apache are either registered
>>> trademarks or trademarks of the Apache Software Foundation in the United
>>> States and/or other countries, and are used with permission. The Apache
>>> Software Foundation has no affiliation with and does not endorse, or
>>> review
>>> the materials provided at this event, which is managed by opensource.io
>>> ."
>>>
>>> (fyi: opensource.io is the brand i used to organize the strutsathon)
>>>
>>> If you agree, I would like to add our new trademark here:
>>>
>>> * www.apache.org/foundation/**marks/list/index.html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/list/index.html>
>>>
>>> And notify the trademarks team on this. I don't think there are
>>> comparable
>>> trademarks out, we are a trend setter :-)
>>>
>>> Finally I would like to push this kind of events and suggest we create an
>>> official website for Struts related
>>> events where we list for example the past event and also new events like
>>> the
>>> Warsaw one.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Christian
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>> @grobmeier
>>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB
>>>
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Re: [trademark] The term "Strutsathon"
Posted by Frans Thamura <fr...@meruvian.org>.
+1, add me to list, Indonesia.
On Oct 12, 2013 7:12 PM, "Umesh Awasthi" <um...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 for making it more global
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > On 12 Oct 2013, at 12:57, Frans Thamura wrote:
> >
> > any idea to make it worldwide?
> >>
> >
> > It would be great if there would be regular Strutsathons worldwide.
> > I would definitely considering to travel when it's not to expensive.
> > But I believe somebody in the region needs to organize that. The
> organizer
> > should be on the PMC or work closely with the PMC in my opinion
> >
> >
> >
> > F
> >> --
> >> Frans Thamura (曽志胜)
> >> Shadow Master and Lead Investor
> >> Meruvian.
> >> Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider.
> >>
> >> Mobile: +628557888699
> >> Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/**roller/flatburger<
> http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger>(id)
> >>
> >> FB: http://www.facebook.com/**meruvian <
> http://www.facebook.com/meruvian>
> >> TW: http://www.twitter.com/**meruvian <http://www.twitter.com/meruvian>/
> @meruvian
> >> Website: http://www.meruvian.org
> >>
> >> "We grow because we share the same belief."
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Christian Grobmeier
> >> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello folks,
> >>>
> >>> as you know I previously invented the term "Strutsathon" for the first
> >>> Strutsathon in Augsburg:
> >>> http://strutsathon.opensource.**io/ <http://strutsathon.opensource.io/
> >
> >>>
> >>> Now I saw Lukasz is using the term for one in Warsaw. I sense a pattern
> >>> and
> >>> hope there will be more Strutsathons to follow!
> >>>
> >>> As I invented the term "Strutsathon" I believe I have some ownership in
> >>> it,
> >>> despite the fact I use the ASF trademark "Struts".
> >>> If I have any rights on it, I donate it to the project.
> >>>
> >>> Then I believe we should add this term to our trademark information on
> >>> the
> >>> bottom of every page:
> >>>
> >>> "Copyright © 2000-2013 The Apache Software Foundation. All Rights
> >>> Reserved.
> >>> Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon, Apache, the Apache feather logo,
> and
> >>> the
> >>> Apache Struts project logos are trademarks of The Apache Software
> >>> Foundation."
> >>>
> >>> PMC members who organize Strutsathons (or third parties whom we allowed
> >>> to
> >>> do so) should write something like this to the bottom of their page:
> >>>
> >>> "Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon and Apache are either registered
> >>> trademarks or trademarks of the Apache Software Foundation in the
> United
> >>> States and/or other countries, and are used with permission. The Apache
> >>> Software Foundation has no affiliation with and does not endorse, or
> >>> review
> >>> the materials provided at this event, which is managed by
> opensource.io
> >>> ."
> >>>
> >>> (fyi: opensource.io is the brand i used to organize the strutsathon)
> >>>
> >>> If you agree, I would like to add our new trademark here:
> >>>
> >>> * www.apache.org/foundation/**marks/list/index.html<
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/list/index.html>
> >>>
> >>> And notify the trademarks team on this. I don't think there are
> >>> comparable
> >>> trademarks out, we are a trend setter :-)
> >>>
> >>> Finally I would like to push this kind of events and suggest we create
> an
> >>> official website for Struts related
> >>> events where we list for example the past event and also new events
> like
> >>> the
> >>> Warsaw one.
> >>>
> >>> Thoughts?
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Christian
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> http://www.grobmeier.de
> >>> @grobmeier
> >>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB
> >>>
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> >
> >
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> > @grobmeier
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> With Regards
> Umesh Awasthi
> http://www.travellingrants.com/
>
Re: [trademark] The term "Strutsathon"
Posted by Umesh Awasthi <um...@gmail.com>.
+1 for making it more global
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>wrote:
> On 12 Oct 2013, at 12:57, Frans Thamura wrote:
>
> any idea to make it worldwide?
>>
>
> It would be great if there would be regular Strutsathons worldwide.
> I would definitely considering to travel when it's not to expensive.
> But I believe somebody in the region needs to organize that. The organizer
> should be on the PMC or work closely with the PMC in my opinion
>
>
>
> F
>> --
>> Frans Thamura (曽志胜)
>> Shadow Master and Lead Investor
>> Meruvian.
>> Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider.
>>
>> Mobile: +628557888699
>> Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/**roller/flatburger<http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger>(id)
>>
>> FB: http://www.facebook.com/**meruvian <http://www.facebook.com/meruvian>
>> TW: http://www.twitter.com/**meruvian <http://www.twitter.com/meruvian>/ @meruvian
>> Website: http://www.meruvian.org
>>
>> "We grow because we share the same belief."
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Christian Grobmeier
>> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello folks,
>>>
>>> as you know I previously invented the term "Strutsathon" for the first
>>> Strutsathon in Augsburg:
>>> http://strutsathon.opensource.**io/ <http://strutsathon.opensource.io/>
>>>
>>> Now I saw Lukasz is using the term for one in Warsaw. I sense a pattern
>>> and
>>> hope there will be more Strutsathons to follow!
>>>
>>> As I invented the term "Strutsathon" I believe I have some ownership in
>>> it,
>>> despite the fact I use the ASF trademark "Struts".
>>> If I have any rights on it, I donate it to the project.
>>>
>>> Then I believe we should add this term to our trademark information on
>>> the
>>> bottom of every page:
>>>
>>> "Copyright © 2000-2013 The Apache Software Foundation. All Rights
>>> Reserved.
>>> Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon, Apache, the Apache feather logo, and
>>> the
>>> Apache Struts project logos are trademarks of The Apache Software
>>> Foundation."
>>>
>>> PMC members who organize Strutsathons (or third parties whom we allowed
>>> to
>>> do so) should write something like this to the bottom of their page:
>>>
>>> "Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon and Apache are either registered
>>> trademarks or trademarks of the Apache Software Foundation in the United
>>> States and/or other countries, and are used with permission. The Apache
>>> Software Foundation has no affiliation with and does not endorse, or
>>> review
>>> the materials provided at this event, which is managed by opensource.io
>>> ."
>>>
>>> (fyi: opensource.io is the brand i used to organize the strutsathon)
>>>
>>> If you agree, I would like to add our new trademark here:
>>>
>>> * www.apache.org/foundation/**marks/list/index.html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/list/index.html>
>>>
>>> And notify the trademarks team on this. I don't think there are
>>> comparable
>>> trademarks out, we are a trend setter :-)
>>>
>>> Finally I would like to push this kind of events and suggest we create an
>>> official website for Struts related
>>> events where we list for example the past event and also new events like
>>> the
>>> Warsaw one.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Christian
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>>> @grobmeier
>>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB
>>>
>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>> ---------
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@struts.apache.**org<de...@struts.apache.org>
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>
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> @grobmeier
> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB
>
--
With Regards
Umesh Awasthi
http://www.travellingrants.com/
Re: [trademark] The term "Strutsathon"
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
On 12 Oct 2013, at 12:57, Frans Thamura wrote:
> any idea to make it worldwide?
It would be great if there would be regular Strutsathons worldwide.
I would definitely considering to travel when it's not to expensive.
But I believe somebody in the region needs to organize that. The
organizer should be on the PMC or work closely with the PMC in my
opinion
> F
> --
> Frans Thamura (曽志胜)
> Shadow Master and Lead Investor
> Meruvian.
> Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider.
>
> Mobile: +628557888699
> Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id)
>
> FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian
> TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian
> Website: http://www.meruvian.org
>
> "We grow because we share the same belief."
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Christian Grobmeier
> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello folks,
>>
>> as you know I previously invented the term "Strutsathon" for the
>> first
>> Strutsathon in Augsburg:
>> http://strutsathon.opensource.io/
>>
>> Now I saw Lukasz is using the term for one in Warsaw. I sense a
>> pattern and
>> hope there will be more Strutsathons to follow!
>>
>> As I invented the term "Strutsathon" I believe I have some ownership
>> in it,
>> despite the fact I use the ASF trademark "Struts".
>> If I have any rights on it, I donate it to the project.
>>
>> Then I believe we should add this term to our trademark information
>> on the
>> bottom of every page:
>>
>> "Copyright © 2000-2013 The Apache Software Foundation. All Rights
>> Reserved.
>> Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon, Apache, the Apache feather logo,
>> and the
>> Apache Struts project logos are trademarks of The Apache Software
>> Foundation."
>>
>> PMC members who organize Strutsathons (or third parties whom we
>> allowed to
>> do so) should write something like this to the bottom of their page:
>>
>> "Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon and Apache are either registered
>> trademarks or trademarks of the Apache Software Foundation in the
>> United
>> States and/or other countries, and are used with permission. The
>> Apache
>> Software Foundation has no affiliation with and does not endorse, or
>> review
>> the materials provided at this event, which is managed by
>> opensource.io."
>>
>> (fyi: opensource.io is the brand i used to organize the strutsathon)
>>
>> If you agree, I would like to add our new trademark here:
>>
>> * www.apache.org/foundation/marks/list/index.html
>>
>> And notify the trademarks team on this. I don't think there are
>> comparable
>> trademarks out, we are a trend setter :-)
>>
>> Finally I would like to push this kind of events and suggest we
>> create an
>> official website for Struts related
>> events where we list for example the past event and also new events
>> like the
>> Warsaw one.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Christian
>>
>>
>> ---
>> http://www.grobmeier.de
>> @grobmeier
>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB
>>
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Re: [trademark] The term "Strutsathon"
Posted by Frans Thamura <fr...@meruvian.org>.
any idea to make it worldwide?
F
--
Frans Thamura (曽志胜)
Shadow Master and Lead Investor
Meruvian.
Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider.
Mobile: +628557888699
Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id)
FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian
TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian
Website: http://www.meruvian.org
"We grow because we share the same belief."
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Christian Grobmeier
<gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> as you know I previously invented the term "Strutsathon" for the first
> Strutsathon in Augsburg:
> http://strutsathon.opensource.io/
>
> Now I saw Lukasz is using the term for one in Warsaw. I sense a pattern and
> hope there will be more Strutsathons to follow!
>
> As I invented the term "Strutsathon" I believe I have some ownership in it,
> despite the fact I use the ASF trademark "Struts".
> If I have any rights on it, I donate it to the project.
>
> Then I believe we should add this term to our trademark information on the
> bottom of every page:
>
> "Copyright © 2000-2013 The Apache Software Foundation. All Rights Reserved.
> Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon, Apache, the Apache feather logo, and the
> Apache Struts project logos are trademarks of The Apache Software
> Foundation."
>
> PMC members who organize Strutsathons (or third parties whom we allowed to
> do so) should write something like this to the bottom of their page:
>
> "Apache Struts, Struts, Strutsathon and Apache are either registered
> trademarks or trademarks of the Apache Software Foundation in the United
> States and/or other countries, and are used with permission. The Apache
> Software Foundation has no affiliation with and does not endorse, or review
> the materials provided at this event, which is managed by opensource.io."
>
> (fyi: opensource.io is the brand i used to organize the strutsathon)
>
> If you agree, I would like to add our new trademark here:
>
> * www.apache.org/foundation/marks/list/index.html
>
> And notify the trademarks team on this. I don't think there are comparable
> trademarks out, we are a trend setter :-)
>
> Finally I would like to push this kind of events and suggest we create an
> official website for Struts related
> events where we list for example the past event and also new events like the
> Warsaw one.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Cheers
> Christian
>
>
> ---
> http://www.grobmeier.de
> @grobmeier
> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB
>
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