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Posted to dev@nemo.apache.org by Gyewon Lee <st...@gmail.com> on 2020/11/01 14:07:43 UTC

Re: Nemo and the Apache Maturity Model

Hi,

I've posted a new question about 3rd party compatibility (
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-545).

I will be back when I get the reply.

Thanks,
Gyewon

2020년 10월 27일 (화) 오후 8:38, Jeongyoon Eo <je...@gmail.com>님이 작성:

> Hi, sorry for checking in late too!
>
> For QU40, I wrote a release note for our past two releases,
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nemo/releases/tag/v0.1 and
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nemo/releases/tag/nemo-project-0.2.
>
> Release note for v0.1 introduces Nemo in general and its core concept - the
> policy layer, modular runtime and example policies. As this is our first
> release, I focused on outlining the project instead of tracking all the
> PRs.
>
> Release note for v0.2 mainly focuses on introducing lots of new features
> added to Nemo,
> such as off-heap memory management, smart compiler, serverless and
> streaming.
> If there is any important feature and/or change I've missed, please let me
> know!
>
> Regards,
> Jeongyoon
>
> *----------*
> *Jeongyoon Eo*
> Software Platform Lab
> Department of Computer Science and Engineering
> Seoul National University
> Email: jeongyoon0807@gmail.com <je...@snu.ac.kr>
>
>
> 2020년 10월 27일 (화) 오후 12:50, John Youngseok Yang <jo...@gmail.com>님이
> 작성:
>
> > Thank you Gyewon.
> >
> > Can you please consult with the "Legal Affairs Committee JIRA space(
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/LEGAL/issues)", as instructed on
> > this page?
> > https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#audience
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 7:29 PM Gyewon Lee <gw...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, sorry for checking in late.
> > >
> > > I've listed the licences of Nemo dependencies and their compatibilities
> > > (Category A, B, X)  with ASF policy.
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JhO-vc2AvYTt4U0_fJHwJWNRm9rEaU0EzPpD29kmdZE/edit?usp=sharing
> > >
> > > Question marks indicate that I couldn't determine their compatibility
> > > categories.
> > > Nemoers, could you look at the license files and help me determine
> their
> > > categories?
> > >
> > > The ASF 3rd party policy can be found in the following link.
> > > http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Gyewon
> > >
> > > 2020년 10월 26일 (월) 오후 6:54, John Youngseok Yang <jo...@gmail.com>님이
> > 작성:
> > >
> > > > Thanks Wonwook, that sounds great!
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 5:18 PM 송원욱 <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi, sorry for checking in late!
> > > > > As far as I could check for CO50, the criteria is clearly
> documented
> > on
> > > > > the code of conduct, and the instructions are also given for how to
> > > > > contribute and commit to the project, on our GitHub.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nemo/blob/master/.github/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md
> > > > > <
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nemo/blob/master/.github/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nemo/blob/master/.github/CONTRIBUTING.md
> > > > > <
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nemo/blob/master/.github/CONTRIBUTING.md
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nemo/blob/master/.github/COMMITTING.md
> > > > > <
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nemo/blob/master/.github/COMMITTING.md
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Does this seem enough, or do you think that something more could be
> > > done?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 26 Oct 2020, at 9:49 AM, John Youngseok Yang <
> > johnyangk@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > Gyewon, Wonwook, Jeongyoon - Please let me know in case you don't
> > > have
> > > > > the
> > > > > > time and want me to work on the mentioned issues. I'd be happy to
> > > help!
> > > > > > It'd be great to complete the checklist.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > John
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 5:47 AM Byung-Gon Chun <bgchun@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Thanks for the update!
> > > > > >> Looks like we're moving towards graduation.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Cheers,
> > > > > >> Gon
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 11:01 AM John Youngseok Yang <
> > > > > johnyangk@gmail.com>
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> I have completed QU30
> > > > > >>> The security guide is at
> https://nemo.apache.org/docs/security/
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Best regards,
> > > > > >>> John
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 3:22 PM Taegeon Um <
> taegeonum@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> Hi,
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> It looks like that CS10 has already been resolved, since we
> > > > maintain a
> > > > > >>>> list of committers and PPMC members in our website:
> > > > > >>>> http://nemo.apache.org/pages/team/ <
> > > > > http://nemo.apache.org/pages/team/
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> * Reference:
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+NetBeans
> > > > > >>>> <
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+NetBeans
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Best regards,
> > > > > >>>> Taegeon
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>> On 28 Aug 2020, at 11:11 AM, Taegeon Um <taegeonum@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Hi John,
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> I’d like to take CS10.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > >>>>> Taegeon
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> On 20 Jul 2020, at 6:22 PM, Jeongyoon Eo <
> > > jeongyoon0807@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Hi John,
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> I'd like to take QU40, checking the backward compatibility
> and
> > > > > >>>>>> documentation on changes.
> > > > > >>>>>> Thank you always for your support!
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Best regards,
> > > > > >>>>>> Jeongyoon
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> 2020년 7월 20일 (월) 오후 4:23, John Youngseok Yang <
> > > > johnyangk@gmail.com
> > > > > >>> 님이
> > > > > >>>> 작성:
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks Gon for your comment.
> > > > > >>>>>>> Yes, it seems that we can definitely improve on
> > documentation,
> > > > > >> among
> > > > > >>>> other
> > > > > >>>>>>> things.
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> If there is no further comment. I guess we can proceed to
> > work
> > > on
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >>>>>>> remaining issues in The Apache Project Maturity Model.
> > > > > >>>>>>> I'll first work on QU30(security). Any other volunteers?
> > There
> > > > are
> > > > > >>>> around 5
> > > > > >>>>>>> issues left.
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > >>>>>>> John
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 5:36 PM Byung-Gon Chun <
> > > bgchun@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Hi John,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks for initiating this discussion!
> > > > > >>>>>>>> The Apache Nemo project has been growing well. I think
> this
> > > is a
> > > > > >>>> perfect
> > > > > >>>>>>>> time to discuss the maturity of the project.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks for putting up a document to check the current
> status
> > > of
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >>>>>>>> project. It looks like the project mostly needs to improve
> > > > > >>>> documentation.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks!
> > > > > >>>>>>>> -Gon
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> ---
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Byung-Gon Chun
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 3:35 PM John Youngseok Yang <
> > > > > >>>> johnyangk@gmail.com
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Hi Nemoers,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> I thought it would be a good time to discuss the overall
> > > > progress
> > > > > >>> we
> > > > > >>>>>>> are
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> making to mature the project. While there can be many
> > > different
> > > > > >>> ways
> > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> evaluate the maturity of a project, The Apache Project
> > > Maturity
> > > > > >>> Model
> > > > > >>>>>>>> seems
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> to provide a clear list of items we can act on. The
> Apache
> > > > > >> Project
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Maturity
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Model also appears to be widely adopted by other Apache
> > > > projects,
> > > > > >>> so
> > > > > >>>> it
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> might be a good idea to use this as a guide for
> developing
> > > our
> > > > > >>>> project.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> I've cloned the checklist provided in The Apache Project
> > > > Maturity
> > > > > >>>> Model
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> webpage to a Google Docs file, and marked YES or TODO for
> > > each
> > > > > >> item
> > > > > >>>>>>> based
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> on my understanding of the project.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qQsjqZl9gJQz85-2MGjNWqNB58SiXPWNocEkxP7Vy0c
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> This file can be edited and commented by anyone, so
> please
> > > feel
> > > > > >>> free
> > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> provide feedback and edit. It would also be nice if we
> work
> > > on
> > > > > >>>>>>> resolving
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> the TODOs. If needed, We can even file each TODO item as
> a
> > > JIRA
> > > > > >>>> issue,
> > > > > >>>>>>> as
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> many of the items appear to be related with
> documentation,
> > > > which
> > > > > >>> can
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> require sending pull requests to the Nemo repository. I
> can
> > > > also
> > > > > >>> work
> > > > > >>>>>>> to
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> further expand on the "YES" items to provide more
> detailed
> > > > > >>>>>>> descriptions,
> > > > > >>>>>>>> if
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> we are confident that they are indeed resolved.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> And then it would also be great to get feedback in
> general
> > > (not
> > > > > >>> only
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> specific to The Apache Project Maturity Model) about how
> we
> > > can
> > > > > >>> make
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> further improvements and work effectively towards
> > graduation.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> John
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Byung-Gon Chun
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> --
> > > > > >> Byung-Gon Chun
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Nemo and the Apache Maturity Model

Posted by Gyewon Lee <st...@gmail.com>.
Hello,

I've checked that we do not contain source code of CatB libraries. I think
LC20 and LC30 are both okay.

Best,
Gyewon

2020년 11월 2일 (월) 오후 2:02, Gyewon Lee <st...@gmail.com>님이 작성:

> Hello,
>
> It seems that net-lib java, protobuf, and postgresql belong to CatA and
> javax belongs to CatB. (
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/LEGAL/issues/LEGAL-545?filter=allopenissues
> )
>
> I will check out whether Nemo does not contain source code of CatB
> libraries (binary only).
>
> Thanks,
> Gyewon
>
> 2020년 11월 1일 (일) 오후 11:07, Gyewon Lee <st...@gmail.com>님이 작성:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've posted a new question about 3rd party compatibility (
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-545).
>>
>> I will be back when I get the reply.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Gyewon
>>
>> 2020년 10월 27일 (화) 오후 8:38, Jeongyoon Eo <je...@gmail.com>님이 작성:
>>
>>> Hi, sorry for checking in late too!
>>>
>>> For QU40, I wrote a release note for our past two releases,
>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nemo/releases/tag/v0.1 and
>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nemo/releases/tag/nemo-project-0.2.
>>>
>>> Release note for v0.1 introduces Nemo in general and its core concept -
>>> the
>>> policy layer, modular runtime and example policies. As this is our first
>>> release, I focused on outlining the project instead of tracking all the
>>> PRs.
>>>
>>> Release note for v0.2 mainly focuses on introducing lots of new features
>>> added to Nemo,
>>> such as off-heap memory management, smart compiler, serverless and
>>> streaming.
>>> If there is any important feature and/or change I've missed, please let
>>> me
>>> know!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jeongyoon
>>>
>>> *----------*
>>> *Jeongyoon Eo*
>>> Software Platform Lab
>>> Department of Computer Science and Engineering
>>> Seoul National University
>>> Email: jeongyoon0807@gmail.com <je...@snu.ac.kr>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2020년 10월 27일 (화) 오후 12:50, John Youngseok Yang <jo...@gmail.com>님이
>>> 작성:
>>>
>>> > Thank you Gyewon.
>>> >
>>> > Can you please consult with the "Legal Affairs Committee JIRA space(
>>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/LEGAL/issues)", as instructed
>>> on
>>> > this page?
>>> > https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#audience
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > John
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 7:29 PM Gyewon Lee <gw...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Hi, sorry for checking in late.
>>> > >
>>> > > I've listed the licences of Nemo dependencies and their
>>> compatibilities
>>> > > (Category A, B, X)  with ASF policy.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JhO-vc2AvYTt4U0_fJHwJWNRm9rEaU0EzPpD29kmdZE/edit?usp=sharing
>>> > >
>>> > > Question marks indicate that I couldn't determine their compatibility
>>> > > categories.
>>> > > Nemoers, could you look at the license files and help me determine
>>> their
>>> > > categories?
>>> > >
>>> > > The ASF 3rd party policy can be found in the following link.
>>> > > http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html
>>> > >
>>> > > Best,
>>> > > Gyewon
>>> > >
>>> > > 2020년 10월 26일 (월) 오후 6:54, John Youngseok Yang <johnyangk@gmail.com
>>> >님이
>>> > 작성:
>>> > >
>>> > > > Thanks Wonwook, that sounds great!
>>> > > >
>>> > > > John
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 5:18 PM 송원욱 <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > Hi, sorry for checking in late!
>>> > > > > As far as I could check for CO50, the criteria is clearly
>>> documented
>>> > on
>>> > > > > the code of conduct, and the instructions are also given for how
>>> to
>>> > > > > contribute and commit to the project, on our GitHub.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nemo/blob/master/.github/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md
>>> > > > > <
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nemo/blob/master/.github/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nemo/blob/master/.github/CONTRIBUTING.md
>>> > > > > <
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nemo/blob/master/.github/CONTRIBUTING.md
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nemo/blob/master/.github/COMMITTING.md
>>> > > > > <
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nemo/blob/master/.github/COMMITTING.md
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Does this seem enough, or do you think that something more could
>>> be
>>> > > done?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Thanks!
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > > On 26 Oct 2020, at 9:49 AM, John Youngseok Yang <
>>> > johnyangk@gmail.com
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > wrote:
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Thanks!
>>> > > > > > Gyewon, Wonwook, Jeongyoon - Please let me know in case you
>>> don't
>>> > > have
>>> > > > > the
>>> > > > > > time and want me to work on the mentioned issues. I'd be happy
>>> to
>>> > > help!
>>> > > > > > It'd be great to complete the checklist.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Thanks,
>>> > > > > > John
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 5:47 AM Byung-Gon Chun <
>>> bgchun@gmail.com>
>>> > > > wrote:
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >> Thanks for the update!
>>> > > > > >> Looks like we're moving towards graduation.
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >> Cheers,
>>> > > > > >> Gon
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 11:01 AM John Youngseok Yang <
>>> > > > > johnyangk@gmail.com>
>>> > > > > >> wrote:
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >>> I have completed QU30
>>> > > > > >>> The security guide is at
>>> https://nemo.apache.org/docs/security/
>>> > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > >>> Best regards,
>>> > > > > >>> John
>>> > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > >>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 3:22 PM Taegeon Um <
>>> taegeonum@gmail.com>
>>> > > > > wrote:
>>> > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > >>>> Hi,
>>> > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > >>>> It looks like that CS10 has already been resolved, since we
>>> > > > maintain a
>>> > > > > >>>> list of committers and PPMC members in our website:
>>> > > > > >>>> http://nemo.apache.org/pages/team/ <
>>> > > > > http://nemo.apache.org/pages/team/
>>> > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > >>>> * Reference:
>>> > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+NetBeans
>>> > > > > >>>> <
>>> > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+NetBeans
>>> > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > >>>> Best regards,
>>> > > > > >>>> Taegeon
>>> > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>> On 28 Aug 2020, at 11:11 AM, Taegeon Um <
>>> taegeonum@gmail.com>
>>> > > > wrote:
>>> > > > > >>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>> Hi John,
>>> > > > > >>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>> I’d like to take CS10.
>>> > > > > >>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>> Thanks,
>>> > > > > >>>>> Taegeon
>>> > > > > >>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>> On 20 Jul 2020, at 6:22 PM, Jeongyoon Eo <
>>> > > jeongyoon0807@gmail.com
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > >>>> wrote:
>>> > > > > >>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>> Hi John,
>>> > > > > >>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>> I'd like to take QU40, checking the backward
>>> compatibility and
>>> > > > > >>>>>> documentation on changes.
>>> > > > > >>>>>> Thank you always for your support!
>>> > > > > >>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>> Best regards,
>>> > > > > >>>>>> Jeongyoon
>>> > > > > >>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>> 2020년 7월 20일 (월) 오후 4:23, John Youngseok Yang <
>>> > > > johnyangk@gmail.com
>>> > > > > >>> 님이
>>> > > > > >>>> 작성:
>>> > > > > >>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks Gon for your comment.
>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Yes, it seems that we can definitely improve on
>>> > documentation,
>>> > > > > >> among
>>> > > > > >>>> other
>>> > > > > >>>>>>> things.
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>> If there is no further comment. I guess we can proceed to
>>> > work
>>> > > on
>>> > > > > >> the
>>> > > > > >>>>>>> remaining issues in The Apache Project Maturity Model.
>>> > > > > >>>>>>> I'll first work on QU30(security). Any other volunteers?
>>> > There
>>> > > > are
>>> > > > > >>>> around 5
>>> > > > > >>>>>>> issues left.
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks,
>>> > > > > >>>>>>> John
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 5:36 PM Byung-Gon Chun <
>>> > > bgchun@gmail.com
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > >>>> wrote:
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Hi John,
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks for initiating this discussion!
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> The Apache Nemo project has been growing well. I think
>>> this
>>> > > is a
>>> > > > > >>>> perfect
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> time to discuss the maturity of the project.
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks for putting up a document to check the current
>>> status
>>> > > of
>>> > > > > >> the
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> project. It looks like the project mostly needs to
>>> improve
>>> > > > > >>>> documentation.
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> -Gon
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> ---
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Byung-Gon Chun
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 3:35 PM John Youngseok Yang <
>>> > > > > >>>> johnyangk@gmail.com
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Hi Nemoers,
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> I thought it would be a good time to discuss the
>>> overall
>>> > > > progress
>>> > > > > >>> we
>>> > > > > >>>>>>> are
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> making to mature the project. While there can be many
>>> > > different
>>> > > > > >>> ways
>>> > > > > >>>> to
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> evaluate the maturity of a project, The Apache Project
>>> > > Maturity
>>> > > > > >>> Model
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> seems
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> to provide a clear list of items we can act on. The
>>> Apache
>>> > > > > >> Project
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Maturity
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Model also appears to be widely adopted by other Apache
>>> > > > projects,
>>> > > > > >>> so
>>> > > > > >>>> it
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> might be a good idea to use this as a guide for
>>> developing
>>> > > our
>>> > > > > >>>> project.
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> I've cloned the checklist provided in The Apache
>>> Project
>>> > > > Maturity
>>> > > > > >>>> Model
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> webpage to a Google Docs file, and marked YES or TODO
>>> for
>>> > > each
>>> > > > > >> item
>>> > > > > >>>>>>> based
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> on my understanding of the project.
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qQsjqZl9gJQz85-2MGjNWqNB58SiXPWNocEkxP7Vy0c
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> This file can be edited and commented by anyone, so
>>> please
>>> > > feel
>>> > > > > >>> free
>>> > > > > >>>> to
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> provide feedback and edit. It would also be nice if we
>>> work
>>> > > on
>>> > > > > >>>>>>> resolving
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> the TODOs. If needed, We can even file each TODO item
>>> as a
>>> > > JIRA
>>> > > > > >>>> issue,
>>> > > > > >>>>>>> as
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> many of the items appear to be related with
>>> documentation,
>>> > > > which
>>> > > > > >>> can
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> require sending pull requests to the Nemo repository.
>>> I can
>>> > > > also
>>> > > > > >>> work
>>> > > > > >>>>>>> to
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> further expand on the "YES" items to provide more
>>> detailed
>>> > > > > >>>>>>> descriptions,
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> if
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> we are confident that they are indeed resolved.
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> And then it would also be great to get feedback in
>>> general
>>> > > (not
>>> > > > > >>> only
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> specific to The Apache Project Maturity Model) about
>>> how we
>>> > > can
>>> > > > > >>> make
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> further improvements and work effectively towards
>>> > graduation.
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> John
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> --
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Byung-Gon Chun
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > >>>>
>>> > > > > >>>
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > > >> --
>>> > > > > >> Byung-Gon Chun
>>> > > > > >>
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>

Re: Nemo and the Apache Maturity Model

Posted by Gyewon Lee <st...@gmail.com>.
Hello,

It seems that net-lib java, protobuf, and postgresql belong to CatA and
javax belongs to CatB. (
https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/LEGAL/issues/LEGAL-545?filter=allopenissues
)

I will check out whether Nemo does not contain source code of CatB
libraries (binary only).

Thanks,
Gyewon

2020년 11월 1일 (일) 오후 11:07, Gyewon Lee <st...@gmail.com>님이 작성:

> Hi,
>
> I've posted a new question about 3rd party compatibility (
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-545).
>
> I will be back when I get the reply.
>
> Thanks,
> Gyewon
>
> 2020년 10월 27일 (화) 오후 8:38, Jeongyoon Eo <je...@gmail.com>님이 작성:
>
>> Hi, sorry for checking in late too!
>>
>> For QU40, I wrote a release note for our past two releases,
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nemo/releases/tag/v0.1 and
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nemo/releases/tag/nemo-project-0.2.
>>
>> Release note for v0.1 introduces Nemo in general and its core concept -
>> the
>> policy layer, modular runtime and example policies. As this is our first
>> release, I focused on outlining the project instead of tracking all the
>> PRs.
>>
>> Release note for v0.2 mainly focuses on introducing lots of new features
>> added to Nemo,
>> such as off-heap memory management, smart compiler, serverless and
>> streaming.
>> If there is any important feature and/or change I've missed, please let me
>> know!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jeongyoon
>>
>> *----------*
>> *Jeongyoon Eo*
>> Software Platform Lab
>> Department of Computer Science and Engineering
>> Seoul National University
>> Email: jeongyoon0807@gmail.com <je...@snu.ac.kr>
>>
>>
>> 2020년 10월 27일 (화) 오후 12:50, John Youngseok Yang <jo...@gmail.com>님이
>> 작성:
>>
>> > Thank you Gyewon.
>> >
>> > Can you please consult with the "Legal Affairs Committee JIRA space(
>> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/LEGAL/issues)", as instructed
>> on
>> > this page?
>> > https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#audience
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > John
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 7:29 PM Gyewon Lee <gw...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi, sorry for checking in late.
>> > >
>> > > I've listed the licences of Nemo dependencies and their
>> compatibilities
>> > > (Category A, B, X)  with ASF policy.
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JhO-vc2AvYTt4U0_fJHwJWNRm9rEaU0EzPpD29kmdZE/edit?usp=sharing
>> > >
>> > > Question marks indicate that I couldn't determine their compatibility
>> > > categories.
>> > > Nemoers, could you look at the license files and help me determine
>> their
>> > > categories?
>> > >
>> > > The ASF 3rd party policy can be found in the following link.
>> > > http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html
>> > >
>> > > Best,
>> > > Gyewon
>> > >
>> > > 2020년 10월 26일 (월) 오후 6:54, John Youngseok Yang <johnyangk@gmail.com
>> >님이
>> > 작성:
>> > >
>> > > > Thanks Wonwook, that sounds great!
>> > > >
>> > > > John
>> > > >
>> > > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 5:18 PM 송원욱 <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hi, sorry for checking in late!
>> > > > > As far as I could check for CO50, the criteria is clearly
>> documented
>> > on
>> > > > > the code of conduct, and the instructions are also given for how
>> to
>> > > > > contribute and commit to the project, on our GitHub.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nemo/blob/master/.github/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md
>> > > > > <
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nemo/blob/master/.github/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nemo/blob/master/.github/CONTRIBUTING.md
>> > > > > <
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nemo/blob/master/.github/CONTRIBUTING.md
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nemo/blob/master/.github/COMMITTING.md
>> > > > > <
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-nemo/blob/master/.github/COMMITTING.md
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Does this seem enough, or do you think that something more could
>> be
>> > > done?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks!
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > On 26 Oct 2020, at 9:49 AM, John Youngseok Yang <
>> > johnyangk@gmail.com
>> > > >
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks!
>> > > > > > Gyewon, Wonwook, Jeongyoon - Please let me know in case you
>> don't
>> > > have
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > > time and want me to work on the mentioned issues. I'd be happy
>> to
>> > > help!
>> > > > > > It'd be great to complete the checklist.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > > John
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 5:47 AM Byung-Gon Chun <
>> bgchun@gmail.com>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >> Thanks for the update!
>> > > > > >> Looks like we're moving towards graduation.
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> Cheers,
>> > > > > >> Gon
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 11:01 AM John Youngseok Yang <
>> > > > > johnyangk@gmail.com>
>> > > > > >> wrote:
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>> I have completed QU30
>> > > > > >>> The security guide is at
>> https://nemo.apache.org/docs/security/
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>> Best regards,
>> > > > > >>> John
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 3:22 PM Taegeon Um <
>> taegeonum@gmail.com>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>>> Hi,
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>> It looks like that CS10 has already been resolved, since we
>> > > > maintain a
>> > > > > >>>> list of committers and PPMC members in our website:
>> > > > > >>>> http://nemo.apache.org/pages/team/ <
>> > > > > http://nemo.apache.org/pages/team/
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>> * Reference:
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+NetBeans
>> > > > > >>>> <
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+NetBeans
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>> Best regards,
>> > > > > >>>> Taegeon
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>>> On 28 Aug 2020, at 11:11 AM, Taegeon Um <
>> taegeonum@gmail.com>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>> Hi John,
>> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>> I’d like to take CS10.
>> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>> Thanks,
>> > > > > >>>>> Taegeon
>> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>> On 20 Jul 2020, at 6:22 PM, Jeongyoon Eo <
>> > > jeongyoon0807@gmail.com
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >>>> wrote:
>> > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>> Hi John,
>> > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>> I'd like to take QU40, checking the backward compatibility
>> and
>> > > > > >>>>>> documentation on changes.
>> > > > > >>>>>> Thank you always for your support!
>> > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>> Best regards,
>> > > > > >>>>>> Jeongyoon
>> > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>> 2020년 7월 20일 (월) 오후 4:23, John Youngseok Yang <
>> > > > johnyangk@gmail.com
>> > > > > >>> 님이
>> > > > > >>>> 작성:
>> > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks Gon for your comment.
>> > > > > >>>>>>> Yes, it seems that we can definitely improve on
>> > documentation,
>> > > > > >> among
>> > > > > >>>> other
>> > > > > >>>>>>> things.
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> If there is no further comment. I guess we can proceed to
>> > work
>> > > on
>> > > > > >> the
>> > > > > >>>>>>> remaining issues in The Apache Project Maturity Model.
>> > > > > >>>>>>> I'll first work on QU30(security). Any other volunteers?
>> > There
>> > > > are
>> > > > > >>>> around 5
>> > > > > >>>>>>> issues left.
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> Thanks,
>> > > > > >>>>>>> John
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 5:36 PM Byung-Gon Chun <
>> > > bgchun@gmail.com
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >>>> wrote:
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Hi John,
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks for initiating this discussion!
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> The Apache Nemo project has been growing well. I think
>> this
>> > > is a
>> > > > > >>>> perfect
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> time to discuss the maturity of the project.
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks for putting up a document to check the current
>> status
>> > > of
>> > > > > >> the
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> project. It looks like the project mostly needs to
>> improve
>> > > > > >>>> documentation.
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks!
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> -Gon
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> ---
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Byung-Gon Chun
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 3:35 PM John Youngseok Yang <
>> > > > > >>>> johnyangk@gmail.com
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Hi Nemoers,
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> I thought it would be a good time to discuss the overall
>> > > > progress
>> > > > > >>> we
>> > > > > >>>>>>> are
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> making to mature the project. While there can be many
>> > > different
>> > > > > >>> ways
>> > > > > >>>> to
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> evaluate the maturity of a project, The Apache Project
>> > > Maturity
>> > > > > >>> Model
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> seems
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> to provide a clear list of items we can act on. The
>> Apache
>> > > > > >> Project
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Maturity
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Model also appears to be widely adopted by other Apache
>> > > > projects,
>> > > > > >>> so
>> > > > > >>>> it
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> might be a good idea to use this as a guide for
>> developing
>> > > our
>> > > > > >>>> project.
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> I've cloned the checklist provided in The Apache Project
>> > > > Maturity
>> > > > > >>>> Model
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> webpage to a Google Docs file, and marked YES or TODO
>> for
>> > > each
>> > > > > >> item
>> > > > > >>>>>>> based
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> on my understanding of the project.
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qQsjqZl9gJQz85-2MGjNWqNB58SiXPWNocEkxP7Vy0c
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> This file can be edited and commented by anyone, so
>> please
>> > > feel
>> > > > > >>> free
>> > > > > >>>> to
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> provide feedback and edit. It would also be nice if we
>> work
>> > > on
>> > > > > >>>>>>> resolving
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> the TODOs. If needed, We can even file each TODO item
>> as a
>> > > JIRA
>> > > > > >>>> issue,
>> > > > > >>>>>>> as
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> many of the items appear to be related with
>> documentation,
>> > > > which
>> > > > > >>> can
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> require sending pull requests to the Nemo repository. I
>> can
>> > > > also
>> > > > > >>> work
>> > > > > >>>>>>> to
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> further expand on the "YES" items to provide more
>> detailed
>> > > > > >>>>>>> descriptions,
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> if
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> we are confident that they are indeed resolved.
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> And then it would also be great to get feedback in
>> general
>> > > (not
>> > > > > >>> only
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> specific to The Apache Project Maturity Model) about
>> how we
>> > > can
>> > > > > >>> make
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> further improvements and work effectively towards
>> > graduation.
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> John
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> --
>> > > > > >>>>>>>> Byung-Gon Chun
>> > > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> --
>> > > > > >> Byung-Gon Chun
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>