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Enable Advanced Telemetry
Hiya,
We have a memory leak in our application and I'm trying to get Adobe Scout
working against it so I can start analysing what is happening with the
memory.
We are stuck on Flex SDK 4.6 and using IntelliJ to compile with, so
compiling with -advanced-telemetry=true is not an option (as far as I'm
aware). I had this working a couple of years ago (I think) and was using the
great little AIR app to set the required flag in the resulting SWF, found
at:
http://renaun.com/blog/2012/12/enable-advanced-telemetry-on-flex-or-old-swfs-with-swf-scount-enabler/
However, Scout seems to have moved on. There seems to be a requirement for
FlashPlayer 11.7 (was previously working with 11.4). I've upped that and got
rid of the first error message Scout was complaining about.
But....Even after running our SWF through the little AIR app, Scout is still
complaining with the message:
"To use this panel: Compile your application with the -advanced-telemetry
option."
Here is a screenshot showing the Scout message:
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu19/drevans112/Allocate/ScoutCompileWithAdvancedTelemetry.png
Here is a screenshot showing the SWF being successfully modified:
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu19/drevans112/Allocate/ScoutSWFEnablerSuccess.png
Any thoughts on why this no longer works and what can be done to resolve it?
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Re: Enable Advanced Telemetry
Posted by DarrenEvans <da...@allocatesoftware.com>.
Ahem....schoolboy error!
I was assuming the default "timeline" showing across the top (in my
screenshot) was the one I interact with to get further information....
Shows how long I've not used this.... I needed to <cough> "turn on" Frame
Timeline..
So got a bunch of information coming through now....Trying to sort the wheat
from the chaff here and cannot for the life of me see what's not being
deallocated. Just seems to be a big list of allocations and how much they
used and you can't seem to see if it's been garbage collected or not.
DarrenEvans wrote
> What am I missing now?
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Re: Enable Advanced Telemetry
Posted by DarrenEvans <da...@allocatesoftware.com>.
Ahh didn't realise it was a standard thing packaged with the SDK.
SWFDump confirms the advanced telemetry flag is set to true.
A slight bit of progress.....I think IE was caching the SWF file and using
that (which didn't have the telemetry on). I've purged all versions from the
cache and now Scout is showing "Advanced Telemetry : Enabled" in the session
info Telemetry section.
However, clicking on all the session options ("ActionScript Sampler" etc.) I
am not getting any output in the sections at the bottom of Scout. I can see
the timeline along the top doing stuff but no actual useful debug
information (as per screenshot):
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu19/drevans112/Allocate/ScoutTimelineActivityNoOutput.png
What am I missing now?
jmclean wrote
> In the bin directory of Apache Flex binary release or a from a compiles
> Apache Flex source release.
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Re: Enable Advanced Telemetry
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> I'm thinking this is not the SWFDump you are referring to? Where can I get
> it from?
In the bin directory of Apache Flex binary release or a from a compiles Apache Flex source release.
Just go here:
http://flex.apache.org/download-binaries.html
Or download directly:
windows: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/flex/4.13.0/binaries/apache-flex-sdk-4.13.0-bin.zip
OSX: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/flex/4.13.0/binaries/apache-flex-sdk-4.13.0-bin.tar.gz
Thanks,
Justin
Re: Enable Advanced Telemetry
Posted by DarrenEvans <da...@allocatesoftware.com>.
I better go back to basics here as my output from SWFDump doesn't look like
that.
I downloaded from: http://www.swftools.org/
I'm thinking this is not the SWFDump you are referring to? Where can I get
it from?
jmclean wrote
> Adobe Flex 4.6 didn't support advanced telemetry, but you can use 4.10's
> (or above) swfdump to dump out information from a swf compiled with 4.6
> and it will tell you if it contains that tag or not.
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Re: Enable Advanced Telemetry
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> That's why I asked....I'm stuck on Flex 4.6 SDK and cannot move up due to our
> usage of an ILOG Elixir Component... so.... will it output anything for a
> SWF compiled using 4.6?
Adobe Flex 4.6 didn't support advanced telemetry, but you can use 4.10's (or above) swfdump to dump out information from a swf compiled with 4.6 and it will tell you if it contains that tag or not.
Thanks,
Justin
Re: Enable Advanced Telemetry
Posted by Mihai Chira <mi...@gmail.com>.
FYI we're using iLog Elixir as well (in fact, their latest service
release was a result of our recent bug reports), currently with SDK
4.12.1, but we upgraded the SDK with almost every new release, and
iLog continued working well.
On 26 August 2014 16:30, OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 8:06 AM, DarrenEvans <
> darren.evans@allocatesoftware.com> wrote:
>
>> OmPrakash Muppirala wrote
>> > ILOG Elixir compatibility issue was fixed in 4.11. So, if you get the
>> > latest SDK, I.e. 4.13, you should be good.
>>
>> Somebody else mentioned this a while back when I had another issue.
>>
>> At that time, I took the latest SDK (which was 4.12 I think) and the same
>> problems manifested. Not had any time to investigate further.
>>
>>
>>
> Can you please raise a JIRA ticket about this when you get a chance?
>
> Thanks,
> Om
>
>
>>
>>
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Re: Enable Advanced Telemetry
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 8:06 AM, DarrenEvans <
darren.evans@allocatesoftware.com> wrote:
> OmPrakash Muppirala wrote
> > ILOG Elixir compatibility issue was fixed in 4.11. So, if you get the
> > latest SDK, I.e. 4.13, you should be good.
>
> Somebody else mentioned this a while back when I had another issue.
>
> At that time, I took the latest SDK (which was 4.12 I think) and the same
> problems manifested. Not had any time to investigate further.
>
>
>
Can you please raise a JIRA ticket about this when you get a chance?
Thanks,
Om
>
>
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Re: Enable Advanced Telemetry
Posted by DarrenEvans <da...@allocatesoftware.com>.
OmPrakash Muppirala wrote
> ILOG Elixir compatibility issue was fixed in 4.11. So, if you get the
> latest SDK, I.e. 4.13, you should be good.
Somebody else mentioned this a while back when I had another issue.
At that time, I took the latest SDK (which was 4.12 I think) and the same
problems manifested. Not had any time to investigate further.
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Re: Enable Advanced Telemetry
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Aug 26, 2014 1:50 AM, "DarrenEvans" <da...@allocatesoftware.com>
wrote:
>
> That's why I asked....I'm stuck on Flex 4.6 SDK and cannot move up due to
our
> usage of an ILOG Elixir Component... so.... will it output anything for a
> SWF compiled using 4.6?
ILOG Elixir compatibility issue was fixed in 4.11. So, if you get the
latest SDK, I.e. 4.13, you should be good.
Thanks,
Om
>
> If I retry enabling the SWF through the air app again it apparently
detects
> Telemetry is "on".... Dunno if that actually means anything other than
what
> it would change (which may be incorrect) has already been changed.
>
> We have had this app working against Scout before.
>
>
> jmclean wrote
> >>Yep as long as you using Apache Flex 4.10 or later.
> > <EnableTelemetry advancedTelemetry='true'/>
> > should appear after the FileAttributes tag and before the Metadata tag
> > right at the top of the file.
>
>
>
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Re: Enable Advanced Telemetry
Posted by DarrenEvans <da...@allocatesoftware.com>.
That's why I asked....I'm stuck on Flex 4.6 SDK and cannot move up due to our
usage of an ILOG Elixir Component... so.... will it output anything for a
SWF compiled using 4.6?
If I retry enabling the SWF through the air app again it apparently detects
Telemetry is "on".... Dunno if that actually means anything other than what
it would change (which may be incorrect) has already been changed.
We have had this app working against Scout before.
jmclean wrote
>>Yep as long as you using Apache Flex 4.10 or later.
> <EnableTelemetry advancedTelemetry='true'/>
> should appear after the FileAttributes tag and before the Metadata tag
> right at the top of the file.
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Re: Enable Advanced Telemetry
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> Interesting....did a diff and they are exactly the same? Does SWFDump
> definitely output an additional SWF flag showing the telemetry status?
Yep as long as you using Apache Flex 4.10 or later. <EnableTelemetry advancedTelemetry='true'/> should appear after the FileAttributes tag and before the Metadata tag right at the top of the file.
For example:
<swf xmlns='http://macromedia/2003/swfx' version='25' framerate='24' size='10000x7500' compressed='true' >
<!-- framecount=2 length=642585 -->
<FileAttributes useDirectBlit='false' useGPU='false' hasMetadata='true' actionScript3='true' suppressCrossDomainCaching='false' swfRelativeUrls='false' useNetwork='true'/>
<EnableTelemetry advancedTelemetry='true'/>
Justin
PS And I know as I made that change to swfdump :-)
Re: Enable Advanced Telemetry
Posted by DarrenEvans <da...@allocatesoftware.com>.
Interesting....did a diff and they are exactly the same? Does SWFDump
definitely output an additional SWF flag showing the telemetry status?
Going to download Python and try and run the modification script by hand
this morning to see if that makes any difference.
Anything else I can try?
Alex Harui wrote
> There should be an additional SWF tag. If you save the output to two
> different files and run a diff, are there any differences?
>
> On 8/22/14 10:06 AM, "DarrenEvans" <
> darren.evans@
> >
> wrote:
>
>>Ok, not used SWFDump before. Downloaded and ran it against the SWF file in
>>question and there is ALOT of information. What am I looking for to see if
>>telemetry is on?
>>
>>
>>Alex Harui wrote
>>> Try using SWFDump on the SWF before and after using the enable to make
>>> sure it did get changed.
>>>
>>> On 8/22/14 3:39 AM, "DarrenEvans" <
>>
>>> darren.evans@
>>
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hiya,
>>>>
>>>>We have a memory leak in our application and I'm trying to get Adobe
>>>>Scout
>>>>working against it so I can start analysing what is happening with the
>>>>memory.
>>>>
>>>>We are stuck on Flex SDK 4.6 and using IntelliJ to compile with, so
>>>>compiling with -advanced-telemetry=true is not an option (as far as I'm
>>>>aware). I had this working a couple of years ago (I think) and was using
>>>>the
>>>>great little AIR app to set the required flag in the resulting SWF,
>>>>found
>>>>at:
>>>>http://renaun.com/blog/2012/12/enable-advanced-telemetry-on-flex-or-old-
>>>>sw
>>>>fs-with-swf-scount-enabler/
>>>>
>>>>However, Scout seems to have moved on. There seems to be a requirement
>>>>for
>>>>FlashPlayer 11.7 (was previously working with 11.4). I've upped that and
>>>>got
>>>>rid of the first error message Scout was complaining about.
>>>>
>>>>But....Even after running our SWF through the little AIR app, Scout is
>>>>still
>>>>complaining with the message:
>>>>"To use this panel: Compile your application with the
>>>>-advanced-telemetry
>>>>option."
>>>>
>>>>Here is a screenshot showing the Scout message:
>>>>http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu19/drevans112/Allocate/ScoutCompile
>>>>Wi
>>>>thAdvancedTelemetry.png
>>>>
>>>>Here is a screenshot showing the SWF being successfully modified:
>>>>http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu19/drevans112/Allocate/ScoutSWFEnab
>>>>le
>>>>rSuccess.png
>>>>
>>>>Any thoughts on why this no longer works and what can be done to resolve
>>>>it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: Enable Advanced Telemetry
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
There should be an additional SWF tag. If you save the output to two
different files and run a diff, are there any differences?
On 8/22/14 10:06 AM, "DarrenEvans" <da...@allocatesoftware.com>
wrote:
>Ok, not used SWFDump before. Downloaded and ran it against the SWF file in
>question and there is ALOT of information. What am I looking for to see if
>telemetry is on?
>
>
>Alex Harui wrote
>> Try using SWFDump on the SWF before and after using the enable to make
>> sure it did get changed.
>>
>> On 8/22/14 3:39 AM, "DarrenEvans" <
>
>> darren.evans@
>
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Hiya,
>>>
>>>We have a memory leak in our application and I'm trying to get Adobe
>>>Scout
>>>working against it so I can start analysing what is happening with the
>>>memory.
>>>
>>>We are stuck on Flex SDK 4.6 and using IntelliJ to compile with, so
>>>compiling with -advanced-telemetry=true is not an option (as far as I'm
>>>aware). I had this working a couple of years ago (I think) and was using
>>>the
>>>great little AIR app to set the required flag in the resulting SWF,
>>>found
>>>at:
>>>http://renaun.com/blog/2012/12/enable-advanced-telemetry-on-flex-or-old-
>>>sw
>>>fs-with-swf-scount-enabler/
>>>
>>>However, Scout seems to have moved on. There seems to be a requirement
>>>for
>>>FlashPlayer 11.7 (was previously working with 11.4). I've upped that and
>>>got
>>>rid of the first error message Scout was complaining about.
>>>
>>>But....Even after running our SWF through the little AIR app, Scout is
>>>still
>>>complaining with the message:
>>>"To use this panel: Compile your application with the
>>>-advanced-telemetry
>>>option."
>>>
>>>Here is a screenshot showing the Scout message:
>>>http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu19/drevans112/Allocate/ScoutCompile
>>>Wi
>>>thAdvancedTelemetry.png
>>>
>>>Here is a screenshot showing the SWF being successfully modified:
>>>http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu19/drevans112/Allocate/ScoutSWFEnab
>>>le
>>>rSuccess.png
>>>
>>>Any thoughts on why this no longer works and what can be done to resolve
>>>it?
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Enable Advanced Telemetry
Posted by DarrenEvans <da...@allocatesoftware.com>.
Ok, not used SWFDump before. Downloaded and ran it against the SWF file in
question and there is ALOT of information. What am I looking for to see if
telemetry is on?
Alex Harui wrote
> Try using SWFDump on the SWF before and after using the enable to make
> sure it did get changed.
>
> On 8/22/14 3:39 AM, "DarrenEvans" <
> darren.evans@
> >
> wrote:
>
>>Hiya,
>>
>>We have a memory leak in our application and I'm trying to get Adobe Scout
>>working against it so I can start analysing what is happening with the
>>memory.
>>
>>We are stuck on Flex SDK 4.6 and using IntelliJ to compile with, so
>>compiling with -advanced-telemetry=true is not an option (as far as I'm
>>aware). I had this working a couple of years ago (I think) and was using
>>the
>>great little AIR app to set the required flag in the resulting SWF, found
>>at:
>>http://renaun.com/blog/2012/12/enable-advanced-telemetry-on-flex-or-old-sw
>>fs-with-swf-scount-enabler/
>>
>>However, Scout seems to have moved on. There seems to be a requirement for
>>FlashPlayer 11.7 (was previously working with 11.4). I've upped that and
>>got
>>rid of the first error message Scout was complaining about.
>>
>>But....Even after running our SWF through the little AIR app, Scout is
>>still
>>complaining with the message:
>>"To use this panel: Compile your application with the -advanced-telemetry
>>option."
>>
>>Here is a screenshot showing the Scout message:
>>http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu19/drevans112/Allocate/ScoutCompileWi
>>thAdvancedTelemetry.png
>>
>>Here is a screenshot showing the SWF being successfully modified:
>>http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu19/drevans112/Allocate/ScoutSWFEnable
>>rSuccess.png
>>
>>Any thoughts on why this no longer works and what can be done to resolve
>>it?
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Enable Advanced Telemetry
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
Try using SWFDump on the SWF before and after using the enable to make
sure it did get changed.
On 8/22/14 3:39 AM, "DarrenEvans" <da...@allocatesoftware.com>
wrote:
>Hiya,
>
>We have a memory leak in our application and I'm trying to get Adobe Scout
>working against it so I can start analysing what is happening with the
>memory.
>
>We are stuck on Flex SDK 4.6 and using IntelliJ to compile with, so
>compiling with -advanced-telemetry=true is not an option (as far as I'm
>aware). I had this working a couple of years ago (I think) and was using
>the
>great little AIR app to set the required flag in the resulting SWF, found
>at:
>http://renaun.com/blog/2012/12/enable-advanced-telemetry-on-flex-or-old-sw
>fs-with-swf-scount-enabler/
>
>However, Scout seems to have moved on. There seems to be a requirement for
>FlashPlayer 11.7 (was previously working with 11.4). I've upped that and
>got
>rid of the first error message Scout was complaining about.
>
>But....Even after running our SWF through the little AIR app, Scout is
>still
>complaining with the message:
>"To use this panel: Compile your application with the -advanced-telemetry
>option."
>
>Here is a screenshot showing the Scout message:
>http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu19/drevans112/Allocate/ScoutCompileWi
>thAdvancedTelemetry.png
>
>Here is a screenshot showing the SWF being successfully modified:
>http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu19/drevans112/Allocate/ScoutSWFEnable
>rSuccess.png
>
>Any thoughts on why this no longer works and what can be done to resolve
>it?
>
>
>
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