Woops!

[David Weinrich <dw...@home.com>]

On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, David Weinrich wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Morgan Delagrange wrote:
>
> ...snipped here to prevent filling up your mailbox with duplicate stuff...
>
> >
> > Hmm, it would be a damn shame to shoot down the
> > library project after making so much progress.
> >
> > Here's my analysis of Avalon vs. Library, with a
> > little Turbine and Struts sprinkled in for good
> > measure.
> >
> > 1) Different charters
> >
> > Avalon's charter is:
> >
> >   The Avalon project is an effort to create,
> >   design, develop and maintain a common
> >   framework for server applications written
> >   using the Java language. This framework will
> >   not be a standalone product, but will allow
> >   existing and yet to be created server
> >   applications to fit into a common platform
> >   and to share code, design and human resources.
> >
> > Note that Avalon is a _framework_ for servers, which
> > is clear from the API's many interfaces for request,
> > responses, pools, properties, etc.
>
> I understand it this way too. A not-totally related point is, if it takes
> more than a few of us more than a few days of digging to really nail down
> exactly what Avalon is, would it be reasonable to expect a first time
> visitor to Avalon to understand it as a place to get individual
> components?
>

After sending this off I realized that this could be interpreted as a
criticism of Avalon, which I hadn't intended when I wrote this. Please
accept my apologies ( the Avalon team in general and also Peter
specifically, your work/contributions are key to this
discusssion/project ) for wording this in a pretty poor way :).

Re: Woops!

[Peter Donald <do...@apache.org>]

At 04:04  28/2/01 -0800, David Weinrich wrote:
>> I understand it this way too. A not-totally related point is, if it takes
>> more than a few of us more than a few days of digging to really nail down
>> exactly what Avalon is, would it be reasonable to expect a first time
>> visitor to Avalon to understand it as a place to get individual
>> components?
>>
>
>After sending this off I realized that this could be interpreted as a
>criticism of Avalon, which I hadn't intended when I wrote this. Please
>accept my apologies ( the Avalon team in general and also Peter
>specifically, your work/contributions are key to this
>discusssion/project ) for wording this in a pretty poor way :).

Naah theres plenty wrong with Avalon (plenty right aswell) and your
criticism is very mild compared to some of the attacks recently ;)

Cheers,

Pete

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| "Faced with the choice between changing one's mind, |
| and proving that there is no need to do so - almost |
| everyone gets busy on the proof."                   |
|              - John Kenneth Galbraith               |
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Re: Woops!

[Peter Donald <do...@apache.org>]

At 04:04  28/2/01 -0800, David Weinrich wrote:
>> I understand it this way too. A not-totally related point is, if it takes
>> more than a few of us more than a few days of digging to really nail down
>> exactly what Avalon is, would it be reasonable to expect a first time
>> visitor to Avalon to understand it as a place to get individual
>> components?
>>
>
>After sending this off I realized that this could be interpreted as a
>criticism of Avalon, which I hadn't intended when I wrote this. Please
>accept my apologies ( the Avalon team in general and also Peter
>specifically, your work/contributions are key to this
>discusssion/project ) for wording this in a pretty poor way :).

Naah theres plenty wrong with Avalon (plenty right aswell) and your
criticism is very mild compared to some of the attacks recently ;)

Cheers,

Pete

*-----------------------------------------------------*
| "Faced with the choice between changing one's mind, |
| and proving that there is no need to do so - almost |
| everyone gets busy on the proof."                   |
|              - John Kenneth Galbraith               |
*-----------------------------------------------------*