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[Discuss] Graduate ServiceMix to a Top Level Project
On Thursday 12 July 2007 05:59, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> enterprise service integration
I find this project description too broad. Since I don't know what ServiceMix
is about I can't suggest something better.
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Re: [Discuss] Graduate ServiceMix to a Top Level Project
Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
Good idea, thx!
On 7/13/07, Niclas Hedhman <ni...@hedhman.org> wrote:
> On Saturday 14 July 2007 00:30, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> > Agreed. So here is the new version:
> >
> > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> > Foundation's purpose to establish a Project, to be known as
> > "Apache ServiceMix Project", related to an extensible messaging
> > bus for service integration, mediation and composition and its
> > related components, for distribution at no charge to the public.
>
> Work for me. I suggest that you restart the vote with this new paragraph, so
> public records later will be cleaner.
>
>
> Cheers
> Niclas
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Re: [Discuss] Graduate ServiceMix to a Top Level Project
Posted by Niclas Hedhman <ni...@hedhman.org>.
On Saturday 14 July 2007 00:30, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> Agreed. So here is the new version:
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project, to be known as
> "Apache ServiceMix Project", related to an extensible messaging
> bus for service integration, mediation and composition and its
> related components, for distribution at no charge to the public.
Work for me. I suggest that you restart the vote with this new paragraph, so
public records later will be cleaner.
Cheers
Niclas
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Re: [Discuss] Graduate ServiceMix to a Top Level Project
Posted by James Strachan <ja...@gmail.com>.
Am just about to disappear on vacation for a week offline; so here's my +1
On 7/13/07, James Strachan <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sounds good to me
>
> On 7/13/07, robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 7/13/07, Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 7/13/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > What about "a pluggable messaging bus for enterprise service
> > > > integration, mediation and composition and its related components" ?
> > > > I'd like to keep out the acronyms if possible ...
> > >
> > > No objection from me. I'd prefer to keep out the acronyms - I was
> > > simply trying to satisfy Nic's request.
> >
> > works for me
> >
> > perhaps pluggable'-> extensible
> >
> > maybe cut enterprise (it's pretty meaningless and unduly restrictive)
> >
> > - robert
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Re: [Discuss] Graduate ServiceMix to a Top Level Project
Posted by James Strachan <ja...@gmail.com>.
Sounds good to me
On 7/13/07, robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7/13/07, Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 7/13/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > What about "a pluggable messaging bus for enterprise service
> > > integration, mediation and composition and its related components" ?
> > > I'd like to keep out the acronyms if possible ...
> >
> > No objection from me. I'd prefer to keep out the acronyms - I was
> > simply trying to satisfy Nic's request.
>
> works for me
>
> perhaps pluggable'-> extensible
>
> maybe cut enterprise (it's pretty meaningless and unduly restrictive)
>
> - robert
>
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Re: [Discuss] Graduate ServiceMix to a Top Level Project
Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
Agreed. So here is the new version:
WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
Foundation's purpose to establish a Project, to be known as
"Apache ServiceMix Project", related to an extensible messaging
bus for service integration, mediation and composition and its related
components, for distribution at no charge to the public.
(Other paragraphs unchanged)
On 7/13/07, robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7/13/07, Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 7/13/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > What about "a pluggable messaging bus for enterprise service
> > > integration, mediation and composition and its related components" ?
> > > I'd like to keep out the acronyms if possible ...
> >
> > No objection from me. I'd prefer to keep out the acronyms - I was
> > simply trying to satisfy Nic's request.
>
> works for me
>
> perhaps pluggable'-> extensible
>
> maybe cut enterprise (it's pretty meaningless and unduly restrictive)
>
> - robert
>
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Re: [Discuss] Graduate ServiceMix to a Top Level Project
Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On 7/13/07, Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7/13/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > What about "a pluggable messaging bus for enterprise service
> > integration, mediation and composition and its related components" ?
> > I'd like to keep out the acronyms if possible ...
>
> No objection from me. I'd prefer to keep out the acronyms - I was
> simply trying to satisfy Nic's request.
works for me
perhaps pluggable'-> extensible
maybe cut enterprise (it's pretty meaningless and unduly restrictive)
- robert
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Re: [Discuss] Graduate ServiceMix to a Top Level Project
Posted by Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com>.
On 7/13/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What about "a pluggable messaging bus for enterprise service
> integration, mediation and composition and its related components" ?
> I'd like to keep out the acronyms if possible ...
No objection from me. I'd prefer to keep out the acronyms - I was
simply trying to satisfy Nic's request.
Bruce
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Re: [Discuss] Graduate ServiceMix to a Top Level Project
Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
What about "a pluggable messaging bus for enterprise service
integration, mediation and composition and its related components" ?
I'd like to keep out the acronyms if possible ...
On 7/12/07, Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What about a service oriented messaging bus, allowing both in VM and outside
> of VM exchanges and composition?
>
> On 7/12/07, robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 7/12/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > ServiceMixis an ESB based on JBI that can be used for SOA.
> > > We purposedly avoided those acronyms in the scope. Do you think
> > > we should bring them back or add a longer description ?
> >
> > please don't bring them back in - let's try to cut through the acronyms
> >
> > starting from your description, AIUI ServiceMix connects, orchestrates
> > and composes services but you'll probably be able to do better than
> > that...
> >
> > - robert
> >
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Re: [Discuss] Graduate ServiceMix to a Top Level Project
Posted by Matthieu Riou <ma...@gmail.com>.
What about a service oriented messaging bus, allowing both in VM and outside
of VM exchanges and composition?
On 7/12/07, robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 7/12/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > ServiceMixis an ESB based on JBI that can be used for SOA.
> > We purposedly avoided those acronyms in the scope. Do you think
> > we should bring them back or add a longer description ?
>
> please don't bring them back in - let's try to cut through the acronyms
>
> starting from your description, AIUI ServiceMix connects, orchestrates
> and composes services but you'll probably be able to do better than
> that...
>
> - robert
>
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Re: [Discuss] Graduate ServiceMix to a Top Level Project
Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On 7/12/07, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ServiceMixis an ESB based on JBI that can be used for SOA.
> We purposedly avoided those acronyms in the scope. Do you think
> we should bring them back or add a longer description ?
please don't bring them back in - let's try to cut through the acronyms
starting from your description, AIUI ServiceMix connects, orchestrates
and composes services but you'll probably be able to do better than
that...
- robert
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Re: [Discuss] Graduate ServiceMix to a Top Level Project
Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
ServiceMixis an ESB based on JBI that can be used for SOA.
We purposedly avoided those acronyms in the scope. Do you think
we should bring them back or add a longer description ?
On 7/12/07, Niclas Hedhman <ni...@hedhman.org> wrote:
> On Thursday 12 July 2007 05:59, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> > enterprise service integration
>
> I find this project description too broad. Since I don't know what ServiceMix
> is about I can't suggest something better.
>
>
> Cheers
> --
> Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
>
> I live here; http://tinyurl.com/2qq9er
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Re: [Discuss] Graduate ServiceMix to a Top Level Project
Posted by Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com>.
On 7/12/07, Niclas Hedhman <ni...@hedhman.org> wrote:
> On Thursday 12 July 2007 05:59, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> > enterprise service integration
>
> I find this project description too broad. Since I don't know what ServiceMix
> is about I can't suggest something better.
Below is a stab at a description that uses all the acronyms:
... the Apache ServiceMix Project be and hereby is responsible for the
creation and maintenance of open source software implementing the Java
Business Integration (JBI) specification to provide an Enterprise
Service Bus (ESB) platform for Service Oriented Architecture (SOA) and
enterprise service integration.
Just my US$0.02 (not worth much these days).
Bruce
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