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free (as in beer) mac client?
Hello, can you recommend a free (no money) svn mac client?
I need it for a friend of mine who is not a programmer, although he is
quite keen with computers. We only need to share a text file, no
coding involved.
Re: free (as in beer) mac client?
Posted by Ryan Schmidt <su...@ryandesign.com>.
On Dec 9, 2009, at 11:57, James Bailey wrote:
> I've literally just seen this come up on my twitter feed - might be of interest?
>
> http://www.macosxfreeware.com/smartsvn-6-5-rc2-client-for-subversion-pro-version-available-2/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed:+mac-osx-freeware+(Mac+OS+X+Freeware)
>
> I'm afraid I've no idea if it's any good, but the usual Mac style it looks quite pretty.
SmartSVN has been around for awhile. Looks like 6.5 final was released today. But note that this is not a Mac-only program; it's cross-platform, an attribute which in my experience tends to make software less lovely on any platform than if it had been designed specifically for that platform. I don't know if that applies specifically to SmartSVN, but it seems to be true of software generally.
http://www.syntevo.com/smartsvn/
When I glanced at Versions when it first came out, it seemed to be a very Mac-like (and Mac-only) Subversion client, but it is not free.
http://www.versionsapp.com/
I'm afraid I exclusively use the svn command line client on my Mac, so I don't have much advice for you in selecting a GUI. But I find the CLI just fine for interacting with Subversion. Sometimes I also reach for a web-based repository viewer to browse the repository or research its history.
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Re: free (as in beer) mac client?
Posted by James Bailey <ja...@wandisco.com>.
Hiya,
I've literally just seen this come up on my twitter feed - might be of
interest?
http://www.macosxfreeware.com/smartsvn-6-5-rc2-client-for-subversion-pro-version-available-2/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed:+mac-osx-freeware+(Mac+OS+X+Freeware)
<http://www.macosxfreeware.com/smartsvn-6-5-rc2-client-for-subversion-pro-version-available-2/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed:+mac-osx-freeware+(Mac+OS+X+Freeware)>I'm
afraid I've no idea if it's any good, but the usual Mac style it looks quite
pretty.
James (@subvcommunity)
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Bob Archer <bo...@amsi.com> wrote:
> > Hello, can you recommend a free (no money) svn mac client?
>
> svn is free and already include on Leopard and Snow Leopard macs. Granted
> it is the CLI implementation. If you are looking for a graphical client then
> this of course won't do.
>
> > I need it for a friend of mine who is not a programmer, although he
> > is
> > quite keen with computers. We only need to share a text file, no
> > coding involved.
>
> Might I suggest DropBox.com? You can set up shared folders in dropbox so
> they are synced among multiple people. The service is free up to 2GB of
> data.
>
> BOb
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RE: free (as in beer) mac client?
Posted by Bob Archer <bo...@amsi.com>.
> Hello, can you recommend a free (no money) svn mac client?
svn is free and already include on Leopard and Snow Leopard macs. Granted it is the CLI implementation. If you are looking for a graphical client then this of course won't do.
> I need it for a friend of mine who is not a programmer, although he
> is
> quite keen with computers. We only need to share a text file, no
> coding involved.
Might I suggest DropBox.com? You can set up shared folders in dropbox so they are synced among multiple people. The service is free up to 2GB of data.
BOb
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Re: free (as in beer) mac client?
Posted by David Weintraub <qa...@gmail.com>.
Are you simply sharing a file, and you're using Subversion to do that?
I'm making two recommendations: Dropbox and Pathfinder
DROPBOX
=========
If you really don't need a full configuration management system, I too
would highly recommend you use Dropbox (http://dropbox.com).
It's not free in the Open Source sense, but it is free as in the "Free
as in Beer" sense. Dropbox works on Windows, Linux (under both GNU and
KDE graphical environments), Mac, and there's even a native iPhone
app. So, you can share flles between a wide variety of platforms.
Dropbox is dead simple to use. You download Dropbox onto your computer
and subscribe to a Dropbox account. Dropbox creates a "Dropbox" folder
on your computer. (%USERPROFILE\My Documents\My Dropbox on Windows
systems, $HOME/dropbox on Unix and Macs). Any file placed into that
folder will be copied to the Dropbox server and to any computer that's
also subscribed to that Dropbox account.
Even better, you can share folders between Dropbox accounts, so you
and your friend can share a folder. You place something in this folder
in your account, and your friend will get it in his account.
Dropbox also versions files placed in the Dropbox folder and even
stores deleted file, so if someone deletes a file, you can retrieve
it, and you can retrieve older versions of files.
Dropbox integrates nicely with Finder on the Mac, so control-clicking
the mouse will show some Dropbox items in the drop-down context menu.
I use Dropbox quite heavily for collaboration and for sharing files
between myself and members of my family. It beats emailing stuff back
and forth and is more secure too. (Dropbox uses SSL while email
doesn't normally use encryption).
Plus, Dropbox is extremely easy to use since all you have to do is
merely move files into and out of the Dropbox folder (and not delete
the .dropbox folder in your $HOME directory).
PATHFINDER
==========
If you truly need a full version control system, have your friend try
Pathfinder. Pathfinder is a Finder replacement and is well worth the
$40 cost. (Okay this isn't Free as in Beer or Open Source).
Pathfinder has a built in terminal, so you can quickly drop down into
command line mode without opening another program. It allows you to
copy and paste files between directories, and it has a dual pane mode
which shows you multiple directories at the same time. The file
browser also allows you to use multiple tabs, and other neat features
that should have been incorporated into Finder.
More importantly, Pathfinder also has a built in Subversion client, so
you can use Pathfinder's Finder-like file browser to interface with
Subversion.
As I mentioned before, this is not Free as in Beer, but many people
buy Pathfinder even if they don't use the built-in Subversion client.
So, tell your friend that if he buys Pathfinder, Cocoatech will throw
in the built-in Subversion client for free. (Hey, it worked for
Ronco.)
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:52 AM, marc gonzalez-carnicer
<ca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello, can you recommend a free (no money) svn mac client?
>
> I need it for a friend of mine who is not a programmer, although he is
> quite keen with computers. We only need to share a text file, no
> coding involved.
>
> From http://subversion.tigris.org/links.html#clients it appears that
> the only free clients are the SC plugin, which is not suitable since
> my friend's computer has snow leopard.
>
> Then he has tried svnx, which is not working because the GUI does not
> provide interactivity to issues like user management and ssh
> certificates. The program just issues a dialog with an OK button to
> messages. It neither allows to either input user and passwords, nor to
> respond to the prompt for the SSH certificate that goes "(r)eject,
> accept (t)emporarily, accept (p)ermanently".
>
> Any ideas?
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Re: free (as in beer) mac client?
Posted by Johnathan Gifford <jg...@wernervas.com>.
For a TortoiseSVN like GUI tool there is:
SCPlugin - http://scplugin.tigris.org (but if your buddy is using Snow
Leopard, it won't work.)
For a GUI tool period...
svnX -
http://www.lachoseinteractive.net/en/community/subversion/svnx/features/
RapidSVN - http://rapidsvn.tigris.org/
Hope this helps,
Johnathan
From: marc gonzalez-carnicer <ca...@gmail.com>
To: users@subversion.tigris.org
Date: 12/09/2009 10:54 AM
Subject: free (as in beer) mac client?
Hello, can you recommend a free (no money) svn mac client?
I need it for a friend of mine who is not a programmer, although he is
quite keen with computers. We only need to share a text file, no
coding involved.
Re: free (as in beer) mac client?
Posted by marc gonzalez-carnicer <ca...@gmail.com>.
Thanks to all who replied, all your messages were quite meaningful to me.
2009/12/9 David Aldrich <Da...@eu.nec.com>:
> Have you considered SmartSVN?
>
> Best regards
>
> David
I suggested this to my friend right after reading my message. The fact
that it is classified as "multiplatform" did not sound reliable to me,
I did not know what it meant, and specially which dependencies it had.
I wonder why they hide it is developed in java. Now he is already
updating and committing easily (he had already tried tortoisesvn).
2009/12/9 Bob Archer <Bo...@amsi.com>:
>> I need it for a friend of mine who is not a programmer, although he
>> is
>> quite keen with computers. We only need to share a text file, no
>> coding involved.
>
> Might I suggest DropBox.com? You can set up shared folders in dropbox so they are synced among multiple people. The service is free up to 2GB of data.
>
> BOb
>
I had been wondering for quite a long time if such services existed.
VCSs are not as easy to install and use as they claim, specially for
non computer-people, but also sometimes for some IT professionals.
Their video introduction is fine, but I miss some technical details
somewhere else.
2009/12/9 Johnathan Gifford <jg...@wernervas.com>:
> ...
> For a GUI tool period...
>
> svnX -
> http://www.lachoseinteractive.net/en/community/subversion/svnx/features/
> RapidSVN - http://rapidsvn.tigris.org/
>
> Hope this helps,
not much :)
actually I already mentioned we had tried that svnx but didn't manage
to have it work successfully when the server asks for some
interactivity such as dealing with SSL certificates (https://) and
user authentication (svn://). is this a bug or non-implementation or
perhaps we missed something?
2009/12/10 Ryan Schmidt <su...@ryandesign.com>:
> ...
> I'm afraid I exclusively use the svn command line client on my Mac, so I
> don't have much advice for you in selecting a GUI. But I find the CLI
> just fine for interacting with Subversion. Sometimes I also reach for a
> web-based repository viewer to browse the repository or research its history.
>
Me too I just use the linux CLI with a diff viewer (kdiff3 / tkdiff).
Then he should configure a diff viewer for mac. Not trivial for linux.
I do hope there was a --using option for svn diff, like in bzr (I may
start a thread for that, it's been on my head for months/years).
2009/12/10 David Weintraub <qa...@gmail.com>:
> Are you simply sharing a file, and you're using Subversion to do that?
A very insightful mail, David.
You start with an interesting question.
1) I am kind of an svn freak, I use svn for many things, not just for
programming. I even chose my personal ISP (geekisp.com) because it
offers it (besides ssh)
2) For this "project" I am using svn for other things, such as a
crontab script that updates its wc and performs some operations with
it. I guess there are other alternatives for not bugging my friend
with svn, but it's not that bad.
>
> I'm making two recommendations: Dropbox and Pathfinder
>
> DROPBOX
> =========
>
> If you really don't need a full configuration management system, I too
> would highly recommend you use Dropbox (http://dropbox.com).
...
I will definitely try dropbox.
>
> PATHFINDER
> ==========
>
> If you truly need a full version control system, have your friend try
> Pathfinder. Pathfinder is a Finder replacement and is well worth the
> $40 cost. (Okay this isn't Free as in Beer or Open Source).
>
...
Your description of pathfinder is much better than the one from the
guy who maintains and sells it. I really got lost trying to understand
why should I buy that.
Thanks.
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