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Posted to users@subversion.apache.org by Edward Morden <ed...@gmail.com> on 2009/08/29 16:04:01 UTC
SVN-abbreviation
Hello,
Hello my name is Edward Morden and I am a bit concerned about the
abbreviation "SVN" which belongs to the program Subversion.
For me its really unclear why you chose "SVN". The "SV" is destinct cause
of *S**ub**V**ersion* but where did you get the "N" from?
What is the "N" supposed to mean? I looked though all the articles and even
wikipedia but nowhere I can find an explanation.
I would really be happy to recieve a email from you with your ideas behind
the abbrevation "SVN".
RE: SVN-abbreviation
Posted by Keith Moore <Ke...@securency.com>.
If you're running on Windows I suggest creating a batch file SV.BAT...
-SV.BAT----------
@ECHO OFF
Svn %*
-----------
Now you don't have to type in the full SVN. Wow, I've just improved my output by 33%! ;o)
-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Shepard [mailto:rshepard@appl-ecosys.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 2:46 AM
To: users@subversion.tigris.org
Subject: Re: SVN-abbreviation
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009, Edward Morden wrote:
> Hello my name is Edward Morden and I am a bit concerned about the
> abbreviation "SVN" which belongs to the program Subversion.
Edward,
Why are you concerned?
> For me its really unclear why you chose "SVN". The "SV" is destinct cause
> of *S**ub**V**ersion* but where did you get the "N" from?
As already posted, it represents SubVersionN. That's the application's
name and the abbreviation is easily recognized for the spelled-out word.
> I would also suggest to think about renaming the abbrevation to "SV" which
> would be the best solution.
Ah! Because you cannot accept the developers' choice of abbreviation
everyone else should adopt to you? Feh!
If you're so wrapped up in application names and abbreviations, consider
how to say PostgreSQL, SQLite, and LaTeX (which is not rubber).
Must be a slow weekend in western Europe, eh? :-)
Rich
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RE: SVN-abbreviation
Posted by Rich Shepard <rs...@appl-ecosys.com>.
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009, Johan Corveleyn wrote:
> ... leading to the following page, which I found pretty funny:
> http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn-org/trunk/sounds/pronunciation/index.html
Clap! Clap! Clap! That's a great find, Johan.
Rich
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RE: SVN-abbreviation
Posted by Johan Corveleyn <jo...@uz.kuleuven.ac.be>.
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009, Edward Morden wrote:
> Hello my name is Edward Morden and I am a bit concerned about the
> abbreviation "SVN" which belongs to the program Subversion.
:)
Not really an answer to your question, but a little bit related is the following FAQ entry: How do you pronounce "Subversion" -http://subversion.tigris.org/faq.html#pronounce
... leading to the following page, which I found pretty funny:
http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn-org/trunk/sounds/pronunciation/index.html
Regards,
Johan
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Re: SVN-abbreviation
Posted by Rich Shepard <rs...@appl-ecosys.com>.
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009, Edward Morden wrote:
> Hello my name is Edward Morden and I am a bit concerned about the
> abbreviation "SVN" which belongs to the program Subversion.
Edward,
Why are you concerned?
> For me its really unclear why you chose "SVN". The "SV" is destinct cause
> of *S**ub**V**ersion* but where did you get the "N" from?
As already posted, it represents SubVersionN. That's the application's
name and the abbreviation is easily recognized for the spelled-out word.
> I would also suggest to think about renaming the abbrevation to "SV" which
> would be the best solution.
Ah! Because you cannot accept the developers' choice of abbreviation
everyone else should adopt to you? Feh!
If you're so wrapped up in application names and abbreviations, consider
how to say PostgreSQL, SQLite, and LaTeX (which is not rubber).
Must be a slow weekend in western Europe, eh? :-)
Rich
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Re: SVN-abbreviation
Posted by Listman <li...@burble.net>.
come on guys. this person is clearly a troll - don't waste your breath.
the odds of him responding to this thread are close to zero
On Aug 29, 2009, at 9:23 AM- Aug 29, 2009, Andy Levy wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:04, Edward Morden<ed...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>> Hello my name is Edward Morden and I am a bit concerned about the
>> abbreviation "SVN" which belongs to the program Subversion.
>> For me its really unclear why you chose "SVN". The "SV" is destinct
>> cause
>> of SubVersion but where did you get the "N" from?
>> What is the "N" supposed to mean? I looked though all the articles
>> and even
>> wikipedia but nowhere I can find an explanation.
>> I would really be happy to recieve a email from you with your ideas
>> behind
>> the abbrevation "SVN".
>> From a logical view it makes not really sense and seems to only
>> confuse the
>> users of SubVersion.
>> I would also suggest to think about renaming the abbrevation to
>> "SV" which
>> would be the best solution.
>
> SubVersioN
>
> "Subversion" is one word (at least in the dictionary I checked), so
> treating S and V as the first letter of 2 words put together isn't
> really "right."
>
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Re: SVN-abbreviation
Posted by Andy Levy <an...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:04, Edward Morden<ed...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> Hello my name is Edward Morden and I am a bit concerned about the
> abbreviation "SVN" which belongs to the program Subversion.
> For me its really unclear why you chose "SVN". The "SV" is destinct cause
> of SubVersion but where did you get the "N" from?
> What is the "N" supposed to mean? I looked though all the articles and even
> wikipedia but nowhere I can find an explanation.
> I would really be happy to recieve a email from you with your ideas behind
> the abbrevation "SVN".
> From a logical view it makes not really sense and seems to only confuse the
> users of SubVersion.
> I would also suggest to think about renaming the abbrevation to "SV" which
> would be the best solution.
SubVersioN
"Subversion" is one word (at least in the dictionary I checked), so
treating S and V as the first letter of 2 words put together isn't
really "right."
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Re: SVN-abbreviation
Posted by Edmund Wong <ed...@kdtc.net>.
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:04:01 +0200, Edward Morden wrote
> Hello,
>
> Hello my name is Edward Morden and I am a bit concerned about the
> abbreviation "SVN" which belongs to the program Subversion.
> For me its really unclear why you chose "SVN". The "SV" is destinct cause
> of *S**ub**V**ersion* but where did you get the "N" from?
> What is the "N" supposed to mean? I looked though all the articles
> and even wikipedia but nowhere I can find an explanation. I would
> really be happy to recieve a email from you with your ideas behind
> the abbrevation "SVN".
> >From a logical view it makes not really sense and seems to only confuse the
> users of SubVersion.
> I would also suggest to think about renaming the abbrevation to "SV"
> which would be the best solution.
>
I would think that the application abbreviation would be the
least of the users' concern in terms of 'confusion'. I would
figure the command line options to be confusing or the
different commands to be confusing (which they aren't).
Thankfully, you didn't post this in the dev mailing list.
Considering svn_ is plastered all over the code, you'd
probably freak out even more.
It's really simple. If you don't like the name; when you
compile or use the binary, change the name to 'sv'. After
all, it's just a name of a binary. That way, your concerns
are met. Everyone's happy.
Perhaps I don't understand the issue at hand and would
appreciate a further explanation as to why users would
be concerned of the name of the binary. The name of
the application is still Subversion.
The closest concern I would've thought you would feel
users being concerned about 'Subversion' could be the
fact that 'Subversion' (or rather, subversion) is
the noun for the verb 'to subvert', which is a bad
thing, no? But since this is in a SCM context, the
confusion is highly overrated.
Just my $0.02. Now back to your regularly scheduled program.
Edmund
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