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Posted to builds@apache.org by Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> on 2011/02/03 14:28:19 UTC
Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Hi all,
I'm sure some of you followed this story :-).
Two questions :
* which code branch do we have to follow ( Jenkins or Oracle : IMHO
the most active is the Jenkins one)
* do we have to rename hudson.apache.org to jenkins.apache.org
Thoughts ? (and sure no rush :-) )
Thanks,
--
Olivier Lamy
http://twitter.com/olamy
http://www.linkedin.com/in/olamy
RE: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by Uwe Schindler <uw...@thetaphi.de>.
Jenkins also fixes the Clover.xml problems affecting almost every
clover-enabled build (hopefully):
https://github.com/lacostej/jenkins/commit/31b8361d3152fb7970e1c11c906a763fa
1aa5c25 (see also attached issue mail arriving here few minutes ago). It's
very important to fix this ASAP, as we have broken builds because of this
bug since months!
I don't know what the best way to handle this is. Maybe we patch our latest
Hudson with the supplied patch?
Uwe
-----
Uwe Schindler
H.-H.-Meier-Allee 63, D-28213 Bremen
http://www.thetaphi.de
eMail: uwe@thetaphi.de
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Niklas Gustavsson [mailto:niklas@protocol7.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:39 PM
> To: builds@apache.org
> Subject: Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
>
> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
> > * which code branch do we have to follow ( Jenkins or Oracle : IMHO
> > the most active is the Jenkins one)
>
> Time will tell, but I'm betting on the Jenkins branch. Jenkins has
released a
> 1.396 release which contains a fix for JNPL slaves not reconnecting
correctly.
> This is a problem we currently have with our Windows slave and that I
would
> see fixed. So, unless anyone objects, I will look into upgrading to
Jenkins
> 1.396 in the near future.
>
> > * do we have to rename hudson.apache.org to jenkins.apache.org
>
> In my opinion, this has low priority. The major reason for renaming would
> probably be to make a stand in the Hudson vs Jenkins situation.
>
> /niklas
Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by Giridharan Kesavan <gk...@yahoo-inc.com>.
+1 for Jenkins.
regards,
Giri
On Feb 3, 2011, at 8:08 AM, Nigel Daley wrote:
> +1 for Jenkins. +1 for a redirect.
>
> Nige
>
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Niklas Gustavsson <ni...@protocol7.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> * which code branch do we have to follow ( Jenkins or Oracle : IMHO
>>>> the most active is the Jenkins one)
>>>
>>> Time will tell, but I'm betting on the Jenkins branch. Jenkins has
>>> released a 1.396 release which contains a fix for JNPL slaves not
>>> reconnecting correctly. This is a problem we currently have with our
>>> Windows slave and that I would see fixed. So, unless anyone objects, I
>>> will look into upgrading to Jenkins 1.396 in the near future.
>>
>> +1
>>
>>>
>>>> * do we have to rename hudson.apache.org to jenkins.apache.org
>>>
>>> In my opinion, this has low priority. The major reason for renaming
>>> would probably be to make a stand in the Hudson vs Jenkins situation.
>>
>> :-) why not a redirect from hudson.a.o to jenkins.a.o ?
>>
>> -Matthias
>>
>>>
>>> /niklas
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>
>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>
Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by Scott O'Bryan <da...@gmail.com>.
Fair enough Paul, but that was a preference. They would not have been
sued for trademark violations over the name java.
On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org> wrote:
> Actually, the reason Apache chose the "jakarta" project is because they
> didn't want to use "java" in the subdomain name.
>
> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Scott O'Bryan <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Not sure it's been trademarked, but if it has, I'm pretty sure that it
>> doesn't apply to subdomains. I'm okay with migrating the domain name,
>> but there should be a grace period.
>>
>> Either way, the redirect will make sure the Jenkins name shows up for
>> everyone who cares .. :)
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd say get rid of hudsdon.a.o all together because Oracle is claiming
>> the
>>> name as a trademark.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Jan Matèrne <ap...@materne.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 for Jenkins
>>>> +1 for redirecting hudson.a.o to jenkins.ao
>>>>
>>>> And "mark hudson.a.o as deprecated".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jan
>>>>
>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>> Von: Nicolas Lalevée [mailto:nicolas.lalevee@hibnet.org]
>>>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Februar 2011 17:21
>>>>> An: builds@apache.org
>>>>> Betreff: Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 for jenkins
>>>>>
>>>>> for the host name I think we should have only one official url. Then
>>>>> which one I don't care that much.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nicolas
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 3 févr. 2011 à 17:08, Nigel Daley a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> +1 for Jenkins. +1 for a redirect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nige
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Niklas Gustavsson
>>>>> <ni...@protocol7.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> * which code branch do we have to follow ( Jenkins or Oracle :
>>>>> IMHO
>>>>>>>>> the most active is the Jenkins one)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Time will tell, but I'm betting on the Jenkins branch. Jenkins has
>>>>>>>> released a 1.396 release which contains a fix for JNPL slaves not
>>>>>>>> reconnecting correctly. This is a problem we currently have with
>>>>> our
>>>>>>>> Windows slave and that I would see fixed. So, unless anyone
>>>>> objects, I
>>>>>>>> will look into upgrading to Jenkins 1.396 in the near future.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * do we have to rename hudson.apache.org to jenkins.apache.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In my opinion, this has low priority. The major reason for renaming
>>>>>>>> would probably be to make a stand in the Hudson vs Jenkins
>>>>> situation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :-) why not a redirect from hudson.a.o to jenkins.a.o ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Matthias
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> /niklas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>>>>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by Scott O'Bryan <da...@gmail.com>.
Totally agree.
On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:46 PM, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Folks, by all means choose another name, but please don't drag
> 'trademark' into it.
>
> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Actually, the reason Apache chose the "jakarta" project is because they
>> didn't want to use "java" in the subdomain name.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Scott O'Bryan <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Not sure it's been trademarked, but if it has, I'm pretty sure that it
>>> doesn't apply to subdomains. I'm okay with migrating the domain name,
>>> but there should be a grace period.
>>>
>>> Either way, the redirect will make sure the Jenkins name shows up for
>>> everyone who cares .. :)
>>>
>>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'd say get rid of hudsdon.a.o all together because Oracle is claiming
>>> the
>>>> name as a trademark.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Jan Matèrne <ap...@materne.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1 for Jenkins
>>>>> +1 for redirecting hudson.a.o to jenkins.ao
>>>>>
>>>>> And "mark hudson.a.o as deprecated".
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jan
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>> Von: Nicolas Lalevée [mailto:nicolas.lalevee@hibnet.org]
>>>>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Februar 2011 17:21
>>>>>> An: builds@apache.org
>>>>>> Betreff: Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1 for jenkins
>>>>>>
>>>>>> for the host name I think we should have only one official url. Then
>>>>>> which one I don't care that much.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nicolas
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 3 févr. 2011 à 17:08, Nigel Daley a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1 for Jenkins. +1 for a redirect.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nige
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Niklas Gustavsson
>>>>>> <ni...@protocol7.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> * which code branch do we have to follow ( Jenkins or Oracle :
>>>>>> IMHO
>>>>>>>>>> the most active is the Jenkins one)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Time will tell, but I'm betting on the Jenkins branch. Jenkins has
>>>>>>>>> released a 1.396 release which contains a fix for JNPL slaves not
>>>>>>>>> reconnecting correctly. This is a problem we currently have with
>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>> Windows slave and that I would see fixed. So, unless anyone
>>>>>> objects, I
>>>>>>>>> will look into upgrading to Jenkins 1.396 in the near future.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * do we have to rename hudson.apache.org to jenkins.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In my opinion, this has low priority. The major reason for renaming
>>>>>>>>> would probably be to make a stand in the Hudson vs Jenkins
>>>>>> situation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> :-) why not a redirect from hudson.a.o to jenkins.a.o ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Matthias
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> /niklas
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>>>>>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
Even if the trademark stuff is marginally relevant, having the redirect in
place actually lets us change the real name
sooner rather than later and thus be more cautious rather than less.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>wrote:
> So I claim that the trademark business is not relevant,
> and we can have hudson.apache.org as a transitional convenience as
> look as we like.
>
Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by Scott O'Bryan <da...@gmail.com>.
Yes, I totally buy this.. I like builds.a.o. My primary concern was
over scripts. :) I only have so many hours in the day. Good news
is.. I think builds will cover this now and in the future..
On Feb 3, 2011, at 7:46 PM, "Gav..." <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
> It is product names of external products we no longer want in any sub-domains, that includes Hudson and Jenkins, nothing to do with trademarks and certainly nothing to do with Oracle, we are following Koshukes code as a choice by the community and we have committers involved with that direction. So again, no trademark law involved in the decision at all and your expansion of and original mail was not required nor relevant. This is a list regarding build systems at the ASF, any other discussions belong elsewhere.
>
> Gav...
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargulies@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, 4 February 2011 9:35 AM
>> To: builds@apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
>>
>> OK, I'll expand. Based on all the reading I've done about trademark
>> law, inside and outside of the ASF, I think that it is utterly
>> far-fetched to worry about the idea that Oracle will assert some sort
>> of trademark infringement if we have a domain name of
>> hudson.apache.org for any purpose in creation except promote some
>> other CI system. And I cannot see a running instance of Jenkins as a
>> 'promotion'. So I claim that the trademark business is not relevant,
>> and we can have hudson.apache.org as a transitional convenience as
>> look as we like.
>>
>> I apologize if you would have preferred this full form from the
>> outset, and we can always trot over to legal-discuss if you have a
>> contrary view.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Gav... <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargulies@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Friday, 4 February 2011 8:46 AM
>>>> To: builds@apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
>>>>
>>>> Folks, by all means choose another name, but please don't drag
>>>> 'trademark' into it.
>>>
>>> Excuse me? How did this sentence help the conversation?
>>>
>>> Gav...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Actually, the reason Apache chose the "jakarta" project is because
>>>> they
>>>>> didn't want to use "java" in the subdomain name.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Scott O'Bryan
>> <da...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Not sure it's been trademarked, but if it has, I'm pretty sure
>> that
>>>> it
>>>>>> doesn't apply to subdomains. I'm okay with migrating the domain
>>>> name,
>>>>>> but there should be a grace period.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Either way, the redirect will make sure the Jenkins name shows up
>>>> for
>>>>>> everyone who cares .. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd say get rid of hudsdon.a.o all together because Oracle is
>>>> claiming
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> name as a trademark.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Jan Matèrne <ap...@materne.de>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1 for Jenkins
>>>>>>>> +1 for redirecting hudson.a.o to jenkins.ao
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And "mark hudson.a.o as deprecated".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>>>>> Von: Nicolas Lalevée [mailto:nicolas.lalevee@hibnet.org]
>>>>>>>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Februar 2011 17:21
>>>>>>>>> An: builds@apache.org
>>>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1 for jenkins
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> for the host name I think we should have only one official
>> url.
>>>> Then
>>>>>>>>> which one I don't care that much.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nicolas
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Le 3 févr. 2011 à 17:08, Nigel Daley a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1 for Jenkins. +1 for a redirect.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nige
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Niklas Gustavsson
>>>>>>>>> <ni...@protocol7.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Olivier Lamy
>>>> <ol...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * which code branch do we have to follow ( Jenkins or
>> Oracle
>>>> :
>>>>>>>>> IMHO
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the most active is the Jenkins one)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Time will tell, but I'm betting on the Jenkins branch.
>>>> Jenkins has
>>>>>>>>>>>> released a 1.396 release which contains a fix for JNPL
>> slaves
>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>> reconnecting correctly. This is a problem we currently
>> have
>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows slave and that I would see fixed. So, unless
>> anyone
>>>>>>>>> objects, I
>>>>>>>>>>>> will look into upgrading to Jenkins 1.396 in the near
>> future.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * do we have to rename hudson.apache.org to
>>>> jenkins.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In my opinion, this has low priority. The major reason for
>>>> renaming
>>>>>>>>>>>> would probably be to make a stand in the Hudson vs Jenkins
>>>>>>>>> situation.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> :-) why not a redirect from hudson.a.o to jenkins.a.o ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -Matthias
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> /niklas
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>>>>>>>>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
RE: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by "Gav..." <ga...@16degrees.com.au>.
It is product names of external products we no longer want in any sub-domains, that includes Hudson and Jenkins, nothing to do with trademarks and certainly nothing to do with Oracle, we are following Koshukes code as a choice by the community and we have committers involved with that direction. So again, no trademark law involved in the decision at all and your expansion of and original mail was not required nor relevant. This is a list regarding build systems at the ASF, any other discussions belong elsewhere.
Gav...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargulies@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, 4 February 2011 9:35 AM
> To: builds@apache.org
> Subject: Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
>
> OK, I'll expand. Based on all the reading I've done about trademark
> law, inside and outside of the ASF, I think that it is utterly
> far-fetched to worry about the idea that Oracle will assert some sort
> of trademark infringement if we have a domain name of
> hudson.apache.org for any purpose in creation except promote some
> other CI system. And I cannot see a running instance of Jenkins as a
> 'promotion'. So I claim that the trademark business is not relevant,
> and we can have hudson.apache.org as a transitional convenience as
> look as we like.
>
> I apologize if you would have preferred this full form from the
> outset, and we can always trot over to legal-discuss if you have a
> contrary view.
>
> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Gav... <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargulies@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Friday, 4 February 2011 8:46 AM
> >> To: builds@apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
> >>
> >> Folks, by all means choose another name, but please don't drag
> >> 'trademark' into it.
> >
> > Excuse me? How did this sentence help the conversation?
> >
> > Gav...
> >
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Actually, the reason Apache chose the "jakarta" project is because
> >> they
> >> > didn't want to use "java" in the subdomain name.
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Scott O'Bryan
> <da...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Not sure it's been trademarked, but if it has, I'm pretty sure
> that
> >> it
> >> >> doesn't apply to subdomains. I'm okay with migrating the domain
> >> name,
> >> >> but there should be a grace period.
> >> >>
> >> >> Either way, the redirect will make sure the Jenkins name shows up
> >> for
> >> >> everyone who cares .. :)
> >> >>
> >> >> On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > I'd say get rid of hudsdon.a.o all together because Oracle is
> >> claiming
> >> >> the
> >> >> > name as a trademark.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Jan Matèrne <ap...@materne.de>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> +1 for Jenkins
> >> >> >> +1 for redirecting hudson.a.o to jenkins.ao
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> And "mark hudson.a.o as deprecated".
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Jan
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >> >> >>> Von: Nicolas Lalevée [mailto:nicolas.lalevee@hibnet.org]
> >> >> >>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Februar 2011 17:21
> >> >> >>> An: builds@apache.org
> >> >> >>> Betreff: Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> +1 for jenkins
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> for the host name I think we should have only one official
> url.
> >> Then
> >> >> >>> which one I don't care that much.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Nicolas
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Le 3 févr. 2011 à 17:08, Nigel Daley a écrit :
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>> +1 for Jenkins. +1 for a redirect.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Nige
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Niklas Gustavsson
> >> >> >>> <ni...@protocol7.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Olivier Lamy
> >> <ol...@apache.org>
> >> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>> * which code branch do we have to follow ( Jenkins or
> Oracle
> >> :
> >> >> >>> IMHO
> >> >> >>>>>>> the most active is the Jenkins one)
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> Time will tell, but I'm betting on the Jenkins branch.
> >> Jenkins has
> >> >> >>>>>> released a 1.396 release which contains a fix for JNPL
> slaves
> >> not
> >> >> >>>>>> reconnecting correctly. This is a problem we currently
> have
> >> with
> >> >> >>> our
> >> >> >>>>>> Windows slave and that I would see fixed. So, unless
> anyone
> >> >> >>> objects, I
> >> >> >>>>>> will look into upgrading to Jenkins 1.396 in the near
> future.
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> +1
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>> * do we have to rename hudson.apache.org to
> >> jenkins.apache.org
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> In my opinion, this has low priority. The major reason for
> >> renaming
> >> >> >>>>>> would probably be to make a stand in the Hudson vs Jenkins
> >> >> >>> situation.
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> :-) why not a redirect from hudson.a.o to jenkins.a.o ?
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> -Matthias
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> /niklas
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> --
> >> >> >>>>> Matthias Wessendorf
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> >> >> >>>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> >> >> >>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >
> >
> >
Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
OK, I'll expand. Based on all the reading I've done about trademark
law, inside and outside of the ASF, I think that it is utterly
far-fetched to worry about the idea that Oracle will assert some sort
of trademark infringement if we have a domain name of
hudson.apache.org for any purpose in creation except promote some
other CI system. And I cannot see a running instance of Jenkins as a
'promotion'. So I claim that the trademark business is not relevant,
and we can have hudson.apache.org as a transitional convenience as
look as we like.
I apologize if you would have preferred this full form from the
outset, and we can always trot over to legal-discuss if you have a
contrary view.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Gav... <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargulies@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, 4 February 2011 8:46 AM
>> To: builds@apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
>>
>> Folks, by all means choose another name, but please don't drag
>> 'trademark' into it.
>
> Excuse me? How did this sentence help the conversation?
>
> Gav...
>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > Actually, the reason Apache chose the "jakarta" project is because
>> they
>> > didn't want to use "java" in the subdomain name.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Scott O'Bryan <da...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Not sure it's been trademarked, but if it has, I'm pretty sure that
>> it
>> >> doesn't apply to subdomains. I'm okay with migrating the domain
>> name,
>> >> but there should be a grace period.
>> >>
>> >> Either way, the redirect will make sure the Jenkins name shows up
>> for
>> >> everyone who cares .. :)
>> >>
>> >> On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I'd say get rid of hudsdon.a.o all together because Oracle is
>> claiming
>> >> the
>> >> > name as a trademark.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Jan Matèrne <ap...@materne.de>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> +1 for Jenkins
>> >> >> +1 for redirecting hudson.a.o to jenkins.ao
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And "mark hudson.a.o as deprecated".
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Jan
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> >> >>> Von: Nicolas Lalevée [mailto:nicolas.lalevee@hibnet.org]
>> >> >>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Februar 2011 17:21
>> >> >>> An: builds@apache.org
>> >> >>> Betreff: Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> +1 for jenkins
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> for the host name I think we should have only one official url.
>> Then
>> >> >>> which one I don't care that much.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Nicolas
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Le 3 févr. 2011 à 17:08, Nigel Daley a écrit :
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> +1 for Jenkins. +1 for a redirect.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Nige
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Niklas Gustavsson
>> >> >>> <ni...@protocol7.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Olivier Lamy
>> <ol...@apache.org>
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>> * which code branch do we have to follow ( Jenkins or Oracle
>> :
>> >> >>> IMHO
>> >> >>>>>>> the most active is the Jenkins one)
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Time will tell, but I'm betting on the Jenkins branch.
>> Jenkins has
>> >> >>>>>> released a 1.396 release which contains a fix for JNPL slaves
>> not
>> >> >>>>>> reconnecting correctly. This is a problem we currently have
>> with
>> >> >>> our
>> >> >>>>>> Windows slave and that I would see fixed. So, unless anyone
>> >> >>> objects, I
>> >> >>>>>> will look into upgrading to Jenkins 1.396 in the near future.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> +1
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> * do we have to rename hudson.apache.org to
>> jenkins.apache.org
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> In my opinion, this has low priority. The major reason for
>> renaming
>> >> >>>>>> would probably be to make a stand in the Hudson vs Jenkins
>> >> >>> situation.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> :-) why not a redirect from hudson.a.o to jenkins.a.o ?
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> -Matthias
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> /niklas
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> --
>> >> >>>>> Matthias Wessendorf
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>> >> >>>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>> >> >>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >
>
>
>
RE: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by "Gav..." <ga...@16degrees.com.au>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargulies@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, 4 February 2011 8:46 AM
> To: builds@apache.org
> Subject: Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
>
> Folks, by all means choose another name, but please don't drag
> 'trademark' into it.
Excuse me? How did this sentence help the conversation?
Gav...
>
> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > Actually, the reason Apache chose the "jakarta" project is because
> they
> > didn't want to use "java" in the subdomain name.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Scott O'Bryan <da...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Not sure it's been trademarked, but if it has, I'm pretty sure that
> it
> >> doesn't apply to subdomains. I'm okay with migrating the domain
> name,
> >> but there should be a grace period.
> >>
> >> Either way, the redirect will make sure the Jenkins name shows up
> for
> >> everyone who cares .. :)
> >>
> >> On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I'd say get rid of hudsdon.a.o all together because Oracle is
> claiming
> >> the
> >> > name as a trademark.
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Jan Matèrne <ap...@materne.de>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> +1 for Jenkins
> >> >> +1 for redirecting hudson.a.o to jenkins.ao
> >> >>
> >> >> And "mark hudson.a.o as deprecated".
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Jan
> >> >>
> >> >>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >> >>> Von: Nicolas Lalevée [mailto:nicolas.lalevee@hibnet.org]
> >> >>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Februar 2011 17:21
> >> >>> An: builds@apache.org
> >> >>> Betreff: Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
> >> >>>
> >> >>> +1 for jenkins
> >> >>>
> >> >>> for the host name I think we should have only one official url.
> Then
> >> >>> which one I don't care that much.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Nicolas
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Le 3 févr. 2011 à 17:08, Nigel Daley a écrit :
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> +1 for Jenkins. +1 for a redirect.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Nige
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Niklas Gustavsson
> >> >>> <ni...@protocol7.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Olivier Lamy
> <ol...@apache.org>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>> * which code branch do we have to follow ( Jenkins or Oracle
> :
> >> >>> IMHO
> >> >>>>>>> the most active is the Jenkins one)
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Time will tell, but I'm betting on the Jenkins branch.
> Jenkins has
> >> >>>>>> released a 1.396 release which contains a fix for JNPL slaves
> not
> >> >>>>>> reconnecting correctly. This is a problem we currently have
> with
> >> >>> our
> >> >>>>>> Windows slave and that I would see fixed. So, unless anyone
> >> >>> objects, I
> >> >>>>>> will look into upgrading to Jenkins 1.396 in the near future.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> +1
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> * do we have to rename hudson.apache.org to
> jenkins.apache.org
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> In my opinion, this has low priority. The major reason for
> renaming
> >> >>>>>> would probably be to make a stand in the Hudson vs Jenkins
> >> >>> situation.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> :-) why not a redirect from hudson.a.o to jenkins.a.o ?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> -Matthias
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> /niklas
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> --
> >> >>>>> Matthias Wessendorf
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> >> >>>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> >> >>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
> >> >>>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >
Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
Folks, by all means choose another name, but please don't drag
'trademark' into it.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org> wrote:
> Actually, the reason Apache chose the "jakarta" project is because they
> didn't want to use "java" in the subdomain name.
>
> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Scott O'Bryan <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Not sure it's been trademarked, but if it has, I'm pretty sure that it
>> doesn't apply to subdomains. I'm okay with migrating the domain name,
>> but there should be a grace period.
>>
>> Either way, the redirect will make sure the Jenkins name shows up for
>> everyone who cares .. :)
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> > I'd say get rid of hudsdon.a.o all together because Oracle is claiming
>> the
>> > name as a trademark.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Jan Matèrne <ap...@materne.de> wrote:
>> >
>> >> +1 for Jenkins
>> >> +1 for redirecting hudson.a.o to jenkins.ao
>> >>
>> >> And "mark hudson.a.o as deprecated".
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Jan
>> >>
>> >>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> >>> Von: Nicolas Lalevée [mailto:nicolas.lalevee@hibnet.org]
>> >>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Februar 2011 17:21
>> >>> An: builds@apache.org
>> >>> Betreff: Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
>> >>>
>> >>> +1 for jenkins
>> >>>
>> >>> for the host name I think we should have only one official url. Then
>> >>> which one I don't care that much.
>> >>>
>> >>> Nicolas
>> >>>
>> >>> Le 3 févr. 2011 à 17:08, Nigel Daley a écrit :
>> >>>
>> >>>> +1 for Jenkins. +1 for a redirect.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Nige
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Niklas Gustavsson
>> >>> <ni...@protocol7.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> * which code branch do we have to follow ( Jenkins or Oracle :
>> >>> IMHO
>> >>>>>>> the most active is the Jenkins one)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Time will tell, but I'm betting on the Jenkins branch. Jenkins has
>> >>>>>> released a 1.396 release which contains a fix for JNPL slaves not
>> >>>>>> reconnecting correctly. This is a problem we currently have with
>> >>> our
>> >>>>>> Windows slave and that I would see fixed. So, unless anyone
>> >>> objects, I
>> >>>>>> will look into upgrading to Jenkins 1.396 in the near future.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> +1
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> * do we have to rename hudson.apache.org to jenkins.apache.org
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> In my opinion, this has low priority. The major reason for renaming
>> >>>>>> would probably be to make a stand in the Hudson vs Jenkins
>> >>> situation.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> :-) why not a redirect from hudson.a.o to jenkins.a.o ?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> -Matthias
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> /niklas
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> Matthias Wessendorf
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>> >>>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>> >>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>
Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org>.
Actually, the reason Apache chose the "jakarta" project is because they
didn't want to use "java" in the subdomain name.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Scott O'Bryan <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Not sure it's been trademarked, but if it has, I'm pretty sure that it
> doesn't apply to subdomains. I'm okay with migrating the domain name,
> but there should be a grace period.
>
> Either way, the redirect will make sure the Jenkins name shows up for
> everyone who cares .. :)
>
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > I'd say get rid of hudsdon.a.o all together because Oracle is claiming
> the
> > name as a trademark.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Jan Matèrne <ap...@materne.de> wrote:
> >
> >> +1 for Jenkins
> >> +1 for redirecting hudson.a.o to jenkins.ao
> >>
> >> And "mark hudson.a.o as deprecated".
> >>
> >>
> >> Jan
> >>
> >>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >>> Von: Nicolas Lalevée [mailto:nicolas.lalevee@hibnet.org]
> >>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Februar 2011 17:21
> >>> An: builds@apache.org
> >>> Betreff: Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
> >>>
> >>> +1 for jenkins
> >>>
> >>> for the host name I think we should have only one official url. Then
> >>> which one I don't care that much.
> >>>
> >>> Nicolas
> >>>
> >>> Le 3 févr. 2011 à 17:08, Nigel Daley a écrit :
> >>>
> >>>> +1 for Jenkins. +1 for a redirect.
> >>>>
> >>>> Nige
> >>>>
> >>>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Niklas Gustavsson
> >>> <ni...@protocol7.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> * which code branch do we have to follow ( Jenkins or Oracle :
> >>> IMHO
> >>>>>>> the most active is the Jenkins one)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Time will tell, but I'm betting on the Jenkins branch. Jenkins has
> >>>>>> released a 1.396 release which contains a fix for JNPL slaves not
> >>>>>> reconnecting correctly. This is a problem we currently have with
> >>> our
> >>>>>> Windows slave and that I would see fixed. So, unless anyone
> >>> objects, I
> >>>>>> will look into upgrading to Jenkins 1.396 in the near future.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> +1
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * do we have to rename hudson.apache.org to jenkins.apache.org
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In my opinion, this has low priority. The major reason for renaming
> >>>>>> would probably be to make a stand in the Hudson vs Jenkins
> >>> situation.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> :-) why not a redirect from hudson.a.o to jenkins.a.o ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Matthias
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> /niklas
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Matthias Wessendorf
> >>>>>
> >>>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> >>>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> >>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>.
+1 for builds.a.o
2011/2/3 Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>:
> +1 for builds as the domain name.
>
> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Uwe Schindler <uw...@thetaphi.de> wrote:
>
>> +1! Just simple: builds.apache.org?
>>
>
--
Olivier Lamy
http://twitter.com/olamy
http://www.linkedin.com/in/olamy
Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
+1 for builds as the domain name.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Uwe Schindler <uw...@thetaphi.de> wrote:
> +1! Just simple: builds.apache.org?
>
Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by Niklas Gustavsson <ni...@protocol7.com>.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Uwe Schindler <uw...@thetaphi.de> wrote:
> Just simple: builds.apache.org?
+1
/niklas
Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by Justin Mason <jm...@jmason.org>.
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 13:33, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Gav... <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
>> I didn't really want to break up Buildbot pages and its well established
>> (2 years+) links to cater for another build system.
>>
>> It is possible to add /jenkins without breaking them,
>>
>> I'll have a think about it some more, thanks
>
> I was thinking of just adding something like this:
>
> ProxyPass /jenkins http://internal-server-name.apache.org/jenkins/
Broadly +1 on this approach, but note that when Spamassassin were
running buildbot, we had trouble with this -- mod_proxy couldn't deal
with the long-running connections with a constant "trickle" of output
as you see when you're "tailing" a build log. This was quite a while
ago however, and I talked to jerenkrantz about it and he suggested an
upgrade, so this may have been fixed since then.
--j.
Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Gav... <ga...@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
> I didn't really want to break up Buildbot pages and its well established
> (2 years+) links to cater for another build system.
>
> It is possible to add /jenkins without breaking them,
>
> I'll have a think about it some more, thanks
I was thinking of just adding something like this:
ProxyPass /jenkins http://internal-server-name.apache.org/jenkins/
BR,
Jukka Zitting
RE: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by "Gav..." <ga...@16degrees.com.au>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tammo van Lessen [mailto:tvanlessen@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, 4 February 2011 8:35 PM
> To: builds@apache.org
> Subject: Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
>
> On 04.02.2011 11:27, Gav... wrote:
> >> On 04.02.2011 00:46, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> >>> We already have http://ci.apache.org/ that contains buildbot under
> >>> http://ci.apache.org/buildbot.html. I'd put Jenkins under
> >>> http://ci.apache.org/jenkins/.
> >>>
> >>> Keeping the product name in the URL is IMHO quite OK, as we support
> >>> multiple CI systems and the product name is the best way to tell
> them
> >>> apart. And it's not like Jenkins will be changing its name again
> >>> anytime soon.
> >>
> >> +1 for this, having multiple names and subdomains for CI builds is
> >> pretty confusing. One umbrella for all CI systems (be it ci.a.o or
> >> builds.a.o, I don't care) is IMO the way to go.
> >
> > Sorry , not possible.
> >
> > ci.apache.org belongs to Buildbot and all pages under that are
> created by
> > Buildbot.
> >
> > Would be a bit silly having Buildbot host Jenkins :)
>
> True, but wouldn't it be possible to move all buildbot pages to
> ci.a.o/buildbot and create a jenkins space at ci.a.o/jenkins?
I didn't really want to break up Buildbot pages and its well established
(2 years+) links to cater for another build system.
It is possible to add /jenkins without breaking them,
I'll have a think about it some more, thanks
Gav...
>
> Tammo
>
> --
> Tammo van Lessen - http://www.taval.de
Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>.
On 04.02.2011 11:27, Gav... wrote:
>> On 04.02.2011 00:46, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>>> We already have http://ci.apache.org/ that contains buildbot under
>>> http://ci.apache.org/buildbot.html. I'd put Jenkins under
>>> http://ci.apache.org/jenkins/.
>>>
>>> Keeping the product name in the URL is IMHO quite OK, as we support
>>> multiple CI systems and the product name is the best way to tell them
>>> apart. And it's not like Jenkins will be changing its name again
>>> anytime soon.
>>
>> +1 for this, having multiple names and subdomains for CI builds is
>> pretty confusing. One umbrella for all CI systems (be it ci.a.o or
>> builds.a.o, I don't care) is IMO the way to go.
>
> Sorry , not possible.
>
> ci.apache.org belongs to Buildbot and all pages under that are created by
> Buildbot.
>
> Would be a bit silly having Buildbot host Jenkins :)
True, but wouldn't it be possible to move all buildbot pages to
ci.a.o/buildbot and create a jenkins space at ci.a.o/jenkins?
Tammo
--
Tammo van Lessen - http://www.taval.de
RE: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by "Gav..." <ga...@16degrees.com.au>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tammo van Lessen [mailto:tvanlessen@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, 4 February 2011 7:52 PM
> To: builds@apache.org
> Subject: Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
>
> On 04.02.2011 00:46, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> > We already have http://ci.apache.org/ that contains buildbot under
> > http://ci.apache.org/buildbot.html. I'd put Jenkins under
> > http://ci.apache.org/jenkins/.
> >
> > Keeping the product name in the URL is IMHO quite OK, as we support
> > multiple CI systems and the product name is the best way to tell them
> > apart. And it's not like Jenkins will be changing its name again
> > anytime soon.
>
> +1 for this, having multiple names and subdomains for CI builds is
> pretty confusing. One umbrella for all CI systems (be it ci.a.o or
> builds.a.o, I don't care) is IMO the way to go.
Sorry , not possible.
ci.apache.org belongs to Buildbot and all pages under that are created by
Buildbot.
Would be a bit silly having Buildbot host Jenkins :)
Gav...
>
> Best,
> Tammo
>
> --
> Tammo van Lessen - http://www.taval.de
Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>.
On 04.02.2011 00:46, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> We already have http://ci.apache.org/ that contains buildbot under
> http://ci.apache.org/buildbot.html. I'd put Jenkins under
> http://ci.apache.org/jenkins/.
>
> Keeping the product name in the URL is IMHO quite OK, as we support
> multiple CI systems and the product name is the best way to tell them
> apart. And it's not like Jenkins will be changing its name again
> anytime soon.
+1 for this, having multiple names and subdomains for CI builds is
pretty confusing. One umbrella for all CI systems (be it ci.a.o or
builds.a.o, I don't care) is IMO the way to go.
Best,
Tammo
--
Tammo van Lessen - http://www.taval.de
Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Uwe Schindler <uw...@thetaphi.de> wrote:
> +1! Just simple: builds.apache.org?
We already have http://ci.apache.org/ that contains buildbot under
http://ci.apache.org/buildbot.html. I'd put Jenkins under
http://ci.apache.org/jenkins/.
Keeping the product name in the URL is IMHO quite OK, as we support
multiple CI systems and the product name is the best way to tell them
apart. And it's not like Jenkins will be changing its name again
anytime soon.
BR,
Jukka Zitting
RE: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by Uwe Schindler <uw...@thetaphi.de>.
Hi,
> The Hudson domain name go, the Jenkins name will NOT appear in its place.
That's exactly my opinion, too.
> We need to learn and not use brand names as domain (sub) domains.
Jenkins is not a brand (currently) but it may get one. More important is:
why do we need the product name as part of the URL. The good old style guide
@ http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI.html is still correct and clearly
says what we should *not* do: Use parts of our infrastructure in URLs. In my
opinion, the name of the domain should be something generic and not the
product name. We have issues.apache org and not jira.apache.org, same should
be for Hudson/Jenkins whatever!
> So we need to think of a generic name, apply it real soon - within the
next
> day or two, then redirect the old Hudson name for a few days.
>
> get thinking before I just pick one.
+1! Just simple: builds.apache.org?
> Gav...
Uwe
P.S.: By the way, all Hudson servers run as user id Hudson, should we also
change this, too? -- oh no!
RE: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by "Gav..." <ga...@16degrees.com.au>.
All,
The Hudson domain name go, the Jenkins name will NOT appear in its place.
We need to learn and not use brand names as domain (sub) domains.
So we need to think of a generic name, apply it real soon - within the next
day or two, then redirect the old Hudson name for a few days.
get thinking before I just pick one.
Gav...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott O'Bryan [mailto:darkarena@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, 4 February 2011 5:59 AM
> To: builds@apache.org
> Subject: Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
>
> Not sure it's been trademarked, but if it has, I'm pretty sure that it
> doesn't apply to subdomains. I'm okay with migrating the domain name,
> but there should be a grace period.
>
> Either way, the redirect will make sure the Jenkins name shows up for
> everyone who cares .. :)
>
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > I'd say get rid of hudsdon.a.o all together because Oracle is
> claiming the
> > name as a trademark.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Jan Matèrne <ap...@materne.de>
> wrote:
> >
> >> +1 for Jenkins
> >> +1 for redirecting hudson.a.o to jenkins.ao
> >>
> >> And "mark hudson.a.o as deprecated".
> >>
> >>
> >> Jan
> >>
> >>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >>> Von: Nicolas Lalevée [mailto:nicolas.lalevee@hibnet.org]
> >>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Februar 2011 17:21
> >>> An: builds@apache.org
> >>> Betreff: Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
> >>>
> >>> +1 for jenkins
> >>>
> >>> for the host name I think we should have only one official url.
> Then
> >>> which one I don't care that much.
> >>>
> >>> Nicolas
> >>>
> >>> Le 3 févr. 2011 à 17:08, Nigel Daley a écrit :
> >>>
> >>>> +1 for Jenkins. +1 for a redirect.
> >>>>
> >>>> Nige
> >>>>
> >>>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Niklas Gustavsson
> >>> <ni...@protocol7.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> * which code branch do we have to follow ( Jenkins or Oracle :
> >>> IMHO
> >>>>>>> the most active is the Jenkins one)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Time will tell, but I'm betting on the Jenkins branch. Jenkins
> has
> >>>>>> released a 1.396 release which contains a fix for JNPL slaves
> not
> >>>>>> reconnecting correctly. This is a problem we currently have with
> >>> our
> >>>>>> Windows slave and that I would see fixed. So, unless anyone
> >>> objects, I
> >>>>>> will look into upgrading to Jenkins 1.396 in the near future.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> +1
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * do we have to rename hudson.apache.org to jenkins.apache.org
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In my opinion, this has low priority. The major reason for
> renaming
> >>>>>> would probably be to make a stand in the Hudson vs Jenkins
> >>> situation.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> :-) why not a redirect from hudson.a.o to jenkins.a.o ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Matthias
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> /niklas
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Matthias Wessendorf
> >>>>>
> >>>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> >>>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> >>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by Scott O'Bryan <da...@gmail.com>.
Not sure it's been trademarked, but if it has, I'm pretty sure that it
doesn't apply to subdomains. I'm okay with migrating the domain name,
but there should be a grace period.
Either way, the redirect will make sure the Jenkins name shows up for
everyone who cares .. :)
On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org> wrote:
> I'd say get rid of hudsdon.a.o all together because Oracle is claiming the
> name as a trademark.
>
> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Jan Matèrne <ap...@materne.de> wrote:
>
>> +1 for Jenkins
>> +1 for redirecting hudson.a.o to jenkins.ao
>>
>> And "mark hudson.a.o as deprecated".
>>
>>
>> Jan
>>
>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: Nicolas Lalevée [mailto:nicolas.lalevee@hibnet.org]
>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Februar 2011 17:21
>>> An: builds@apache.org
>>> Betreff: Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
>>>
>>> +1 for jenkins
>>>
>>> for the host name I think we should have only one official url. Then
>>> which one I don't care that much.
>>>
>>> Nicolas
>>>
>>> Le 3 févr. 2011 à 17:08, Nigel Daley a écrit :
>>>
>>>> +1 for Jenkins. +1 for a redirect.
>>>>
>>>> Nige
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Niklas Gustavsson
>>> <ni...@protocol7.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> * which code branch do we have to follow ( Jenkins or Oracle :
>>> IMHO
>>>>>>> the most active is the Jenkins one)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Time will tell, but I'm betting on the Jenkins branch. Jenkins has
>>>>>> released a 1.396 release which contains a fix for JNPL slaves not
>>>>>> reconnecting correctly. This is a problem we currently have with
>>> our
>>>>>> Windows slave and that I would see fixed. So, unless anyone
>>> objects, I
>>>>>> will look into upgrading to Jenkins 1.396 in the near future.
>>>>>
>>>>> +1
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * do we have to rename hudson.apache.org to jenkins.apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In my opinion, this has low priority. The major reason for renaming
>>>>>> would probably be to make a stand in the Hudson vs Jenkins
>>> situation.
>>>>>
>>>>> :-) why not a redirect from hudson.a.o to jenkins.a.o ?
>>>>>
>>>>> -Matthias
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /niklas
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>>>>
>>>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>>>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by Paul Benedict <pb...@apache.org>.
I'd say get rid of hudsdon.a.o all together because Oracle is claiming the
name as a trademark.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Jan Matèrne <ap...@materne.de> wrote:
> +1 for Jenkins
> +1 for redirecting hudson.a.o to jenkins.ao
>
> And "mark hudson.a.o as deprecated".
>
>
> Jan
>
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Nicolas Lalevée [mailto:nicolas.lalevee@hibnet.org]
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Februar 2011 17:21
> > An: builds@apache.org
> > Betreff: Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
> >
> > +1 for jenkins
> >
> > for the host name I think we should have only one official url. Then
> > which one I don't care that much.
> >
> > Nicolas
> >
> > Le 3 févr. 2011 à 17:08, Nigel Daley a écrit :
> >
> > > +1 for Jenkins. +1 for a redirect.
> > >
> > > Nige
> > >
> > > On Feb 3, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Niklas Gustavsson
> > <ni...@protocol7.com> wrote:
> > >>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >>>> * which code branch do we have to follow ( Jenkins or Oracle :
> > IMHO
> > >>>> the most active is the Jenkins one)
> > >>>
> > >>> Time will tell, but I'm betting on the Jenkins branch. Jenkins has
> > >>> released a 1.396 release which contains a fix for JNPL slaves not
> > >>> reconnecting correctly. This is a problem we currently have with
> > our
> > >>> Windows slave and that I would see fixed. So, unless anyone
> > objects, I
> > >>> will look into upgrading to Jenkins 1.396 in the near future.
> > >>
> > >> +1
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>>> * do we have to rename hudson.apache.org to jenkins.apache.org
> > >>>
> > >>> In my opinion, this has low priority. The major reason for renaming
> > >>> would probably be to make a stand in the Hudson vs Jenkins
> > situation.
> > >>
> > >> :-) why not a redirect from hudson.a.o to jenkins.a.o ?
> > >>
> > >> -Matthias
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> /niklas
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Matthias Wessendorf
> > >>
> > >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> > >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> > >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
> > >
>
>
>
Re: AW: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by Scott O'Bryan <da...@gmail.com>.
+1 for redirect. It will allow us time to switch our cron scripts
which pull information from hudson. Will anything else I our URL's
to the artifacts change?
On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:38 PM, Jan Matèrne <ap...@materne.de> wrote:
> +1 for Jenkins
> +1 for redirecting hudson.a.o to jenkins.ao
>
> And "mark hudson.a.o as deprecated".
>
>
> Jan
>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Nicolas Lalevée [mailto:nicolas.lalevee@hibnet.org]
>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Februar 2011 17:21
>> An: builds@apache.org
>> Betreff: Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
>>
>> +1 for jenkins
>>
>> for the host name I think we should have only one official url. Then
>> which one I don't care that much.
>>
>> Nicolas
>>
>> Le 3 févr. 2011 à 17:08, Nigel Daley a écrit :
>>
>>> +1 for Jenkins. +1 for a redirect.
>>>
>>> Nige
>>>
>>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Niklas Gustavsson
>> <ni...@protocol7.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>>> * which code branch do we have to follow ( Jenkins or Oracle :
>> IMHO
>>>>>> the most active is the Jenkins one)
>>>>>
>>>>> Time will tell, but I'm betting on the Jenkins branch. Jenkins has
>>>>> released a 1.396 release which contains a fix for JNPL slaves not
>>>>> reconnecting correctly. This is a problem we currently have with
>> our
>>>>> Windows slave and that I would see fixed. So, unless anyone
>> objects, I
>>>>> will look into upgrading to Jenkins 1.396 in the near future.
>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> * do we have to rename hudson.apache.org to jenkins.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>> In my opinion, this has low priority. The major reason for renaming
>>>>> would probably be to make a stand in the Hudson vs Jenkins
>> situation.
>>>>
>>>> :-) why not a redirect from hudson.a.o to jenkins.a.o ?
>>>>
>>>> -Matthias
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> /niklas
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>>>
>>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>>>
>
>
AW: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by Jan Matèrne <ap...@materne.de>.
+1 for Jenkins
+1 for redirecting hudson.a.o to jenkins.ao
And "mark hudson.a.o as deprecated".
Jan
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Nicolas Lalevée [mailto:nicolas.lalevee@hibnet.org]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Februar 2011 17:21
> An: builds@apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
>
> +1 for jenkins
>
> for the host name I think we should have only one official url. Then
> which one I don't care that much.
>
> Nicolas
>
> Le 3 févr. 2011 à 17:08, Nigel Daley a écrit :
>
> > +1 for Jenkins. +1 for a redirect.
> >
> > Nige
> >
> > On Feb 3, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Niklas Gustavsson
> <ni...@protocol7.com> wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>> * which code branch do we have to follow ( Jenkins or Oracle :
> IMHO
> >>>> the most active is the Jenkins one)
> >>>
> >>> Time will tell, but I'm betting on the Jenkins branch. Jenkins has
> >>> released a 1.396 release which contains a fix for JNPL slaves not
> >>> reconnecting correctly. This is a problem we currently have with
> our
> >>> Windows slave and that I would see fixed. So, unless anyone
> objects, I
> >>> will look into upgrading to Jenkins 1.396 in the near future.
> >>
> >> +1
> >>
> >>>
> >>>> * do we have to rename hudson.apache.org to jenkins.apache.org
> >>>
> >>> In my opinion, this has low priority. The major reason for renaming
> >>> would probably be to make a stand in the Hudson vs Jenkins
> situation.
> >>
> >> :-) why not a redirect from hudson.a.o to jenkins.a.o ?
> >>
> >> -Matthias
> >>
> >>>
> >>> /niklas
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Matthias Wessendorf
> >>
> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
> >
Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by Nicolas Lalevée <ni...@hibnet.org>.
+1 for jenkins
for the host name I think we should have only one official url. Then which one I don't care that much.
Nicolas
Le 3 févr. 2011 à 17:08, Nigel Daley a écrit :
> +1 for Jenkins. +1 for a redirect.
>
> Nige
>
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Niklas Gustavsson <ni...@protocol7.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> * which code branch do we have to follow ( Jenkins or Oracle : IMHO
>>>> the most active is the Jenkins one)
>>>
>>> Time will tell, but I'm betting on the Jenkins branch. Jenkins has
>>> released a 1.396 release which contains a fix for JNPL slaves not
>>> reconnecting correctly. This is a problem we currently have with our
>>> Windows slave and that I would see fixed. So, unless anyone objects, I
>>> will look into upgrading to Jenkins 1.396 in the near future.
>>
>> +1
>>
>>>
>>>> * do we have to rename hudson.apache.org to jenkins.apache.org
>>>
>>> In my opinion, this has low priority. The major reason for renaming
>>> would probably be to make a stand in the Hudson vs Jenkins situation.
>>
>> :-) why not a redirect from hudson.a.o to jenkins.a.o ?
>>
>> -Matthias
>>
>>>
>>> /niklas
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Matthias Wessendorf
>>
>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>
Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by Nigel Daley <nd...@mac.com>.
+1 for Jenkins. +1 for a redirect.
Nige
On Feb 3, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Niklas Gustavsson <ni...@protocol7.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> * which code branch do we have to follow ( Jenkins or Oracle : IMHO
>>> the most active is the Jenkins one)
>>
>> Time will tell, but I'm betting on the Jenkins branch. Jenkins has
>> released a 1.396 release which contains a fix for JNPL slaves not
>> reconnecting correctly. This is a problem we currently have with our
>> Windows slave and that I would see fixed. So, unless anyone objects, I
>> will look into upgrading to Jenkins 1.396 in the near future.
>
> +1
>
>>
>>> * do we have to rename hudson.apache.org to jenkins.apache.org
>>
>> In my opinion, this has low priority. The major reason for renaming
>> would probably be to make a stand in the Hudson vs Jenkins situation.
>
> :-) why not a redirect from hudson.a.o to jenkins.a.o ?
>
> -Matthias
>
>>
>> /niklas
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Niklas Gustavsson <ni...@protocol7.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
>> * which code branch do we have to follow ( Jenkins or Oracle : IMHO
>> the most active is the Jenkins one)
>
> Time will tell, but I'm betting on the Jenkins branch. Jenkins has
> released a 1.396 release which contains a fix for JNPL slaves not
> reconnecting correctly. This is a problem we currently have with our
> Windows slave and that I would see fixed. So, unless anyone objects, I
> will look into upgrading to Jenkins 1.396 in the near future.
+1
>
>> * do we have to rename hudson.apache.org to jenkins.apache.org
>
> In my opinion, this has low priority. The major reason for renaming
> would probably be to make a stand in the Hudson vs Jenkins situation.
:-) why not a redirect from hudson.a.o to jenkins.a.o ?
-Matthias
>
> /niklas
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by Niklas Gustavsson <ni...@protocol7.com>.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
> * which code branch do we have to follow ( Jenkins or Oracle : IMHO
> the most active is the Jenkins one)
Time will tell, but I'm betting on the Jenkins branch. Jenkins has
released a 1.396 release which contains a fix for JNPL slaves not
reconnecting correctly. This is a problem we currently have with our
Windows slave and that I would see fixed. So, unless anyone objects, I
will look into upgrading to Jenkins 1.396 in the near future.
> * do we have to rename hudson.apache.org to jenkins.apache.org
In my opinion, this has low priority. The major reason for renaming
would probably be to make a stand in the Hudson vs Jenkins situation.
/niklas
Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@gmail.com>.
I'm in favor of Jenkins, and I think the rename would be wise to
reduce internal confusion.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'm sure some of you followed this story :-).
>
> Two questions :
> * which code branch do we have to follow ( Jenkins or Oracle : IMHO
> the most active is the Jenkins one)
> * do we have to rename hudson.apache.org to jenkins.apache.org
>
> Thoughts ? (and sure no rush :-) )
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Olivier Lamy
> http://twitter.com/olamy
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/olamy
>