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Flex on iPad
Hi
Has anyone got a good example of a Flex written iPad app, on the is iStore that I can pull down and show my manager as an example of the art of the possible ?
I still get the old, well it may be possible but it will not be as good as a Objective C app
Scott
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Re: Flex on iPad
Posted by Sumudu Chinthaka <cs...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Tomislav for valuable input
Best Regards
Sumudu
On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Tomislav Pokrajcic <to...@svemir.net>wrote:
> Hi Sumudu,
> initially we were concerned about the performance because of requirements
> for complex UI, but at the end it was better than we hoped for.
> I believe that native app would perform better, but our customer (another
> software company) didn't have any performance remarks.
> We implemented many details regarding performance tuning but the most
> important thing was to avoid MXML as much as you can in your components.
> All item renderers should be pure AS3.
>
> Smooth view transitions impact user perception of app quality a lot and
> here are some tricks we did to get there.
> First we decided to cache some components.
> For example, most of our views had 2 or 3 main components and we would
> store references to these components in a singleton to avoid destroying
> them after exiting the view.
> So, when user enters the view for the second time we didn't have to wait
> for these components to raise from nothing but instead injected them
> 'prepared' into the view.
> We didn't cache everything, just several complex components that take long
> to initialize. It's also possible to cache entire views but we didn't take
> that route.
>
> It can make a big difference if you organize the code execution workflow
> in a way that data loading/preparing operations don't interfere with view
> switching transitions.
> For example, on button click we would usually show a preloader, then load
> data for the next view (our controllers are cached) and when everything is
> ready then activate transition that now runs uninterrupted.
> Have in mind that user doesn't actually expect to get new screen
> immediately because he/she knows that some data has to be loaded and that
> it takes time. Preloader keeps them calm while waiting that second.
> This way transition doesn't start right away, but it's executed without
> glitches and it leaves good impression.
>
> I don't have any special link/guideline to share, we got all ideas from
> 5-6 years of experience with Flex.
> Making complex mobile apps that behave well is possible, but it takes some
> extra effort to get there.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tomislav
>
>
>
> On 10.1.2014. 5:32, Sumudu Chinthaka wrote:
>
>> Hi Tomislav
>>
>> unfortunately we couldn't try your application and it seems UI is pretty
>> complex too. how about the app performance do you feel any slowness
>> comparing to native IOS application, if there is a delay is it a
>> acceptable
>> delay.
>>
>> also i would like to know what are the memory optimization/performance
>> tuning guild lines did you follow, any document or link you could share
>> would be great
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sumudu
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 3:07 AM, Tomislav Pokrajcic <tomislav@svemir.net
>> >wrote:
>>
>> My company recently completed a business tablet app for a customer. Here
>>> you can find some screenshots:
>>> http://www.boardpoint.eu/en/tablet.aspx
>>>
>>> It has pretty complex UI, many custom components, real time data sync...
>>> There were some tweaks and cheats in the process, but in the end we
>>> produced a pretty smooth interface.
>>> Works for iPads and Androids.
>>> Unfortunately it's not available for public download because it's
>>> distributed over protected enterprise app store.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Tomislav
>>>
>>> --
>>> www.binaria.hr
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9.1.2014. 15:29, Scott Matheson wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>> Has anyone got a good example of a Flex written iPad app, on the is
>>>> iStore that I can pull down and show my manager as an example of the
>>>> art of
>>>> the possible ?
>>>>
>>>> I still get the old, well it may be possible but it will not be as good
>>>> as a Objective C app
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>>
>>>> Disclaimer: This electronic mail and any attachments are confidential
>>>> and
>>>> may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify
>>>> the
>>>> sender immediately by replying to this email, and destroy all copies of
>>>> this email and any attachments. Thank you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
>
Re: Flex on iPad
Posted by Tomislav Pokrajcic <to...@svemir.net>.
Hi Sumudu,
initially we were concerned about the performance because of
requirements for complex UI, but at the end it was better than we hoped for.
I believe that native app would perform better, but our customer
(another software company) didn't have any performance remarks.
We implemented many details regarding performance tuning but the most
important thing was to avoid MXML as much as you can in your components.
All item renderers should be pure AS3.
Smooth view transitions impact user perception of app quality a lot and
here are some tricks we did to get there.
First we decided to cache some components.
For example, most of our views had 2 or 3 main components and we would
store references to these components in a singleton to avoid destroying
them after exiting the view.
So, when user enters the view for the second time we didn't have to wait
for these components to raise from nothing but instead injected them
'prepared' into the view.
We didn't cache everything, just several complex components that take
long to initialize. It's also possible to cache entire views but we
didn't take that route.
It can make a big difference if you organize the code execution workflow
in a way that data loading/preparing operations don't interfere with
view switching transitions.
For example, on button click we would usually show a preloader, then
load data for the next view (our controllers are cached) and when
everything is ready then activate transition that now runs uninterrupted.
Have in mind that user doesn't actually expect to get new screen
immediately because he/she knows that some data has to be loaded and
that it takes time. Preloader keeps them calm while waiting that second.
This way transition doesn't start right away, but it's executed without
glitches and it leaves good impression.
I don't have any special link/guideline to share, we got all ideas from
5-6 years of experience with Flex.
Making complex mobile apps that behave well is possible, but it takes
some extra effort to get there.
Cheers,
Tomislav
On 10.1.2014. 5:32, Sumudu Chinthaka wrote:
> Hi Tomislav
>
> unfortunately we couldn't try your application and it seems UI is pretty
> complex too. how about the app performance do you feel any slowness
> comparing to native IOS application, if there is a delay is it a acceptable
> delay.
>
> also i would like to know what are the memory optimization/performance
> tuning guild lines did you follow, any document or link you could share
> would be great
>
> Thanks
> Sumudu
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 3:07 AM, Tomislav Pokrajcic <to...@svemir.net>wrote:
>
>> My company recently completed a business tablet app for a customer. Here
>> you can find some screenshots:
>> http://www.boardpoint.eu/en/tablet.aspx
>>
>> It has pretty complex UI, many custom components, real time data sync...
>> There were some tweaks and cheats in the process, but in the end we
>> produced a pretty smooth interface.
>> Works for iPads and Androids.
>> Unfortunately it's not available for public download because it's
>> distributed over protected enterprise app store.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tomislav
>>
>> --
>> www.binaria.hr
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9.1.2014. 15:29, Scott Matheson wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>> Has anyone got a good example of a Flex written iPad app, on the is
>>> iStore that I can pull down and show my manager as an example of the art of
>>> the possible ?
>>>
>>> I still get the old, well it may be possible but it will not be as good
>>> as a Objective C app
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> Disclaimer: This electronic mail and any attachments are confidential and
>>> may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the
>>> sender immediately by replying to this email, and destroy all copies of
>>> this email and any attachments. Thank you.
>>>
>>>
>>
Re: Flex on iPad
Posted by Sumudu Chinthaka <cs...@gmail.com>.
Hi Tomislav
unfortunately we couldn't try your application and it seems UI is pretty
complex too. how about the app performance do you feel any slowness
comparing to native IOS application, if there is a delay is it a acceptable
delay.
also i would like to know what are the memory optimization/performance
tuning guild lines did you follow, any document or link you could share
would be great
Thanks
Sumudu
On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 3:07 AM, Tomislav Pokrajcic <to...@svemir.net>wrote:
> My company recently completed a business tablet app for a customer. Here
> you can find some screenshots:
> http://www.boardpoint.eu/en/tablet.aspx
>
> It has pretty complex UI, many custom components, real time data sync...
> There were some tweaks and cheats in the process, but in the end we
> produced a pretty smooth interface.
> Works for iPads and Androids.
> Unfortunately it's not available for public download because it's
> distributed over protected enterprise app store.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tomislav
>
> --
> www.binaria.hr
>
>
>
> On 9.1.2014. 15:29, Scott Matheson wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> Has anyone got a good example of a Flex written iPad app, on the is
>> iStore that I can pull down and show my manager as an example of the art of
>> the possible ?
>>
>> I still get the old, well it may be possible but it will not be as good
>> as a Objective C app
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> Disclaimer: This electronic mail and any attachments are confidential and
>> may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the
>> sender immediately by replying to this email, and destroy all copies of
>> this email and any attachments. Thank you.
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Flex on iPad
Posted by Tomislav Pokrajcic <to...@svemir.net>.
My company recently completed a business tablet app for a customer. Here
you can find some screenshots:
http://www.boardpoint.eu/en/tablet.aspx
It has pretty complex UI, many custom components, real time data sync...
There were some tweaks and cheats in the process, but in the end we
produced a pretty smooth interface.
Works for iPads and Androids.
Unfortunately it's not available for public download because it's
distributed over protected enterprise app store.
Regards,
Tomislav
--
www.binaria.hr
On 9.1.2014. 15:29, Scott Matheson wrote:
> Hi
> Has anyone got a good example of a Flex written iPad app, on the is iStore that I can pull down and show my manager as an example of the art of the possible ?
>
> I still get the old, well it may be possible but it will not be as good as a Objective C app
>
> Scott
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> Disclaimer: This electronic mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this email, and destroy all copies of this email and any attachments. Thank you.
>
Re: Flex on iPad
Posted by Scott Matheson <sm...@intralinks.com>.
Chaps
Will this effect Flex to iPad story
Starting February 1, new apps and app updates submitted to the App Store
must be built with the latest version of Xcode 5 and must be optimized for
iOS 7. Learn more about preparing your apps by reviewing the iOS Human
Interface Guidelines
<https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/userexperience/conce
ptual/mobilehig/index.html>.
Scott
On 1/9/14, 3:08 PM, "Scott Matheson" <sm...@intralinks.com> wrote:
>Business app
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 9 Jan 2014, at 14:35, "Maurice Amsellem"
>><ma...@systar.com> wrote:
>>
>> What kind of app are you looking for ? business app (form based) or
>>graphical app?
>>
>> Maurice
>>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : Scott Matheson [mailto:smatheson@intralinks.com]
>> Envoyé : jeudi 9 janvier 2014 15:30
>> À : users@flex.apache.org
>> Objet : Flex on iPad
>>
>> Hi
>> Has anyone got a good example of a Flex written iPad app, on the is
>>iStore that I can pull down and show my manager as an example of the art
>>of the possible ?
>>
>> I still get the old, well it may be possible but it will not be as good
>>as a Objective C app
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> Disclaimer: This electronic mail and any attachments are confidential
>>and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please
>>notify the sender immediately by replying to this email, and destroy all
>>copies of this email and any attachments. Thank you.
>
>________________________________
>
>Disclaimer: This electronic mail and any attachments are confidential and
>may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify
>the sender immediately by replying to this email, and destroy all copies
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Re: Flex on iPad
Posted by Scott Matheson <sm...@intralinks.com>.
Business app
Sent from my iPhone
> On 9 Jan 2014, at 14:35, "Maurice Amsellem" <ma...@systar.com> wrote:
>
> What kind of app are you looking for ? business app (form based) or graphical app?
>
> Maurice
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Scott Matheson [mailto:smatheson@intralinks.com]
> Envoyé : jeudi 9 janvier 2014 15:30
> À : users@flex.apache.org
> Objet : Flex on iPad
>
> Hi
> Has anyone got a good example of a Flex written iPad app, on the is iStore that I can pull down and show my manager as an example of the art of the possible ?
>
> I still get the old, well it may be possible but it will not be as good as a Objective C app
>
> Scott
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> Disclaimer: This electronic mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this email, and destroy all copies of this email and any attachments. Thank you.
________________________________
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RE: Flex on iPad
Posted by Maurice Amsellem <ma...@systar.com>.
Also , there are a few mobile apps listed here, some are available on the AppStore.
http://flex.staging.apache.org/community-showcase.html
Maurice
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Maurice Amsellem [mailto:maurice.amsellem@systar.com]
Envoyé : jeudi 9 janvier 2014 15:34
À : users@flex.apache.org
Objet : RE: Flex on iPad
What kind of app are you looking for ? business app (form based) or graphical app?
Maurice
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Scott Matheson [mailto:smatheson@intralinks.com] Envoyé : jeudi 9 janvier 2014 15:30 À : users@flex.apache.org Objet : Flex on iPad
Hi
Has anyone got a good example of a Flex written iPad app, on the is iStore that I can pull down and show my manager as an example of the art of the possible ?
I still get the old, well it may be possible but it will not be as good as a Objective C app
Scott
________________________________
Disclaimer: This electronic mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this email, and destroy all copies of this email and any attachments. Thank you.
RE: Flex on iPad
Posted by Maurice Amsellem <ma...@systar.com>.
What kind of app are you looking for ? business app (form based) or graphical app?
Maurice
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Scott Matheson [mailto:smatheson@intralinks.com]
Envoyé : jeudi 9 janvier 2014 15:30
À : users@flex.apache.org
Objet : Flex on iPad
Hi
Has anyone got a good example of a Flex written iPad app, on the is iStore that I can pull down and show my manager as an example of the art of the possible ?
I still get the old, well it may be possible but it will not be as good as a Objective C app
Scott
________________________________
Disclaimer: This electronic mail and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this email, and destroy all copies of this email and any attachments. Thank you.
RE: Flex on iPad
Posted by Maurice Amsellem <ma...@systar.com>.
The app looks really Polished ;-)
(actually it's Czech, but I couldn't help making the pun)
Maurice
-----Message d'origine-----
De : omuppi1@gmail.com [mailto:omuppi1@gmail.com] De la part de OmPrakash Muppirala
Envoyé : jeudi 9 janvier 2014 17:57
À : users@flex.apache.org
Objet : Re: Flex on iPad
This is a pretty good one:
https://itunes.apple.com/pl/app/e-pity-2012/id594924659?mt=8
Thanks,
Om
On Jan 9, 2014 6:30 AM, "Scott Matheson" <sm...@intralinks.com> wrote:
> Hi
> Has anyone got a good example of a Flex written iPad app, on the is
> iStore that I can pull down and show my manager as an example of the
> art of the possible ?
>
> I still get the old, well it may be possible but it will not be as
> good as a Objective C app
>
> Scott
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> Disclaimer: This electronic mail and any attachments are confidential
> and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please
> notify the sender immediately by replying to this email, and destroy
> all copies of this email and any attachments. Thank you.
>
Re: Flex on iPad
Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
This is a pretty good one:
https://itunes.apple.com/pl/app/e-pity-2012/id594924659?mt=8
Thanks,
Om
On Jan 9, 2014 6:30 AM, "Scott Matheson" <sm...@intralinks.com> wrote:
> Hi
> Has anyone got a good example of a Flex written iPad app, on the is
> iStore that I can pull down and show my manager as an example of the art of
> the possible ?
>
> I still get the old, well it may be possible but it will not be as good as
> a Objective C app
>
> Scott
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> Disclaimer: This electronic mail and any attachments are confidential and
> may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the
> sender immediately by replying to this email, and destroy all copies of
> this email and any attachments. Thank you.
>