Declarative or Modal Page Layout Navigation?

[Randy Watler <wa...@wispertel.net>]

Team,

David and I have been discussing potential options to the current 
profiler/page-manager generated page layout navigations. While what we 
have seems to be fairly powerful and flexible, it also seems to be too 
complex and/or scalable for use by many users. It often raises questions 
on the lists and certainly does not seem self documenting!

We have discussed implementing a declarative navigation definition, 
(i.e. J1 menus), that could be specified globally or at the folder 
level. We have also pondered some modal configuration settings/hints to 
the existing solution that correspond to different navigational styles, 
(i.e. relative forward/back navigation as we currently have, constant 
navigation elements that reflect the physical folder structures, logical 
view specifications like document sets, etc.). Obviously, changes to 
support these different modes would also involve modifications to the 
various velocity layout templates. Related efforts might include support 
for javascript pull down menus or other portal navigation interfaces.

I would like to get input from the team on whether it is time to 
consider such an effort and indeed what the effort should look like and 
include. Any and all input will be appreciated!

Thanks,

Randy



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Re: Declarative or Modal Page Layout Navigation?

[Ate Douma <at...@douma.nu>]

Randy Watler wrote:
> Team,
> 
> David and I have been discussing potential options to the current 
> profiler/page-manager generated page layout navigations. While what we 
> have seems to be fairly powerful and flexible, it also seems to be too 
> complex and/or scalable for use by many users. It often raises questions 
> on the lists and certainly does not seem self documenting!
Fully agreed!

> 
> We have discussed implementing a declarative navigation definition, 
> (i.e. J1 menus), that could be specified globally or at the folder 
> level. We have also pondered some modal configuration settings/hints to 
> the existing solution that correspond to different navigational styles, 
> (i.e. relative forward/back navigation as we currently have, constant 
> navigation elements that reflect the physical folder structures, logical 
> view specifications like document sets, etc.). Obviously, changes to 
> support these different modes would also involve modifications to the 
> various velocity layout templates. Related efforts might include support 
> for javascript pull down menus or other portal navigation interfaces.
+1 ;-) One of my own outstanding requirements I haven't found time yet to
find a solution for.
We've been here before and several solutions have been suggested in the
past (including one of my own). Lets try to get this right once and for
all!

> 
> I would like to get input from the team on whether it is time to 
> consider such an effort and indeed what the effort should look like and 
> include. Any and all input will be appreciated!
I'm +1 for starting this as soon as possible because good navigation support,
including portlets for layout and navigation definition maintenance (and good
principal maintenance portlets) are the most prominent missing features to
provide before we'll can start thinking of a final Jetspeed-2.0 release.

Right now I'm working on a simplified (re)deployment implementation which I hope
to provide soon but I got side tracked the last days.
Once thats finished I'll try to help out with navigation and layout
(besides working on enhanced principal maintenance portlets).

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
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