[Slightly OT] Where/how to start?

[Andy Engle <an...@andyengle.com>]

Hi all,

I have a strong Perl/CGI background, but my JSP/Servlet/J2EE experience
is related only to what I did in college. My job entails C development,
but I really want to get more into this J2EE stuff.  It's so much more
enjoyable than this C work I am doing, but I can't seem to get my foot
in the door.  In looking for a J2EE development job, I keep hearing
that I need more experience, which is perfectly understandable.   But,
I can't get experience without getting a job doing it first.  My
question is, how do I get my foot in the door so I can split my boring
job and do what I really want to do?  Do I need to go full tilt and get
a certification or something like that?  Any ideas would be most
helpful.  Even more helpful would be a J2EE job in the Chicago area
where I could develop my professional career in this area.

Thanks very much!


Best Regards,
Andy


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Re: [Slightly OT] Where/how to start?

[Barry Volpe <st...@childrencare.com>]

I'm actually in the same boat.  I began with the internet in
Perl/CGI,  PHP.  I realized the new and improved 
JSP/Servlet/J2EE is the way to go.  I have looked at 
jobs and many of the J2EE are senior level (at least this
is what the job requirement is).  So I decided to learn
STRUTS which was a good starting point for a person
who has a web development background but no JSP/Servlet.   
I myself just graduated with a BSCS.  I am currently developing
an application using STRUTS/servlets/Jsp.   When
I have completed this app I will look for work and show
this as my college final project.  While I am looking for
a Struts/servlet/jsp job I will begin to learn design patterns
and add EJB's (J2EE) to the back end. 

If you develop with struts it would be good to understand how
EJB's are connected to struts.  For myself I thought
this was too much to learn all at once so again I am
starting with struts without EJb's. 

I'm hoping that if I get a job working with STRUTs
this will open the door to my learning EJB's (or I may
have learned them on my own by that time).

I have about 6 months struts experience and I know
a hell of alot more than I did before I started.  The
struts mailing list is very helpful!

Barry



 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Engle" <an...@andyengle.com>
To: <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 3:27 PM
Subject: [Slightly OT] Where/how to start?


> Hi all,
> 
> I have a strong Perl/CGI background, but my JSP/Servlet/J2EE experience
> is related only to what I did in college. My job entails C development,
> but I really want to get more into this J2EE stuff.  It's so much more
> enjoyable than this C work I am doing, but I can't seem to get my foot
> in the door.  In looking for a J2EE development job, I keep hearing
> that I need more experience, which is perfectly understandable.   But,
> I can't get experience without getting a job doing it first.  My
> question is, how do I get my foot in the door so I can split my boring
> job and do what I really want to do?  Do I need to go full tilt and get
> a certification or something like that?  Any ideas would be most
> helpful.  Even more helpful would be a J2EE job in the Chicago area
> where I could develop my professional career in this area.
> 
> Thanks very much!
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> Andy
> 
> 
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RE: [Slightly OT] Where/how to start?

["Kunal H. Parikh" <ku...@carsales.com.au>]

Hi Andy !

If you follow the "Read Me First - A path for newbies", it'll get you on
to JSPs, Servlets and the lot. It has some good links to
"pre-requisites" also.

Hence, if you follow the "Newbie path" you will find your way.


HTH,


Kunal

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Engle [mailto:andy@andyengle.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 14 October 2003 08:27
To: struts-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: [Slightly OT] Where/how to start?

Hi all,

I have a strong Perl/CGI background, but my JSP/Servlet/J2EE experience
is related only to what I did in college. My job entails C development,
but I really want to get more into this J2EE stuff.  It's so much more
enjoyable than this C work I am doing, but I can't seem to get my foot
in the door.  In looking for a J2EE development job, I keep hearing
that I need more experience, which is perfectly understandable.   But,
I can't get experience without getting a job doing it first.  My
question is, how do I get my foot in the door so I can split my boring
job and do what I really want to do?  Do I need to go full tilt and get
a certification or something like that?  Any ideas would be most
helpful.  Even more helpful would be a J2EE job in the Chicago area
where I could develop my professional career in this area.

Thanks very much!


Best Regards,
Andy


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