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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by LuKreme <kr...@kreme.com> on 2009/08/13 04:36:14 UTC
Ahh! What's all this SPAM?!?!?
Got quite a few emails today from users complaining about the huge
onslaught of SPAM into their mailboxes. One user in particular is used
to getting 2-5 email messages a day and logged in this morning to over
250 in the last 12 hours.
So, I investigated.
Ooops, I restarted spamd last night and forgot to check it had come up
clean. 12 hours of no spamd running was an experience for my users.
OTOH, several users' reactions oh, "Oh my god, I had no idea there was
that much spam" (I find my users almost never look at the SPAM
mailbox) has certainly elevated me in their eyes. Might not be a bad
reminder every year or 18 months to 'accidently' stop spamd for a few
hours!
--
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could not explain his nudity.
Re: Ahh! What's all this SPAM?!?!?
Posted by Matus UHLAR - fantomas <uh...@fantomas.sk>.
> On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 20:36 -0600, LuKreme wrote:
> > I find my users almost never look at the SPAM
> > mailbox
On 13.08.09 06:30, richard@buzzhost.co.uk wrote:
> There is an easy fix for that - take that facility away :-)
do you mean, take away spam filtering or the possibility to look at false
positives?
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Re: Ahh! What's all this SPAM?!?!?
Posted by LuKreme <kr...@kreme.com>.
On 13-Aug-2009, at 06:15, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
> 7 days is imho not enough. IF users forget to look at it, I'd give
> them at
> leaast a month...
7 days seems to work pretty well. If users are desperate and willing
to contact an admin, the entire mailspool is duplicated and stored for
at least 10 weeks, but recovering mail from that backup spool is
rather more difficult and takes intervention.
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Re: Ahh! What's all this SPAM?!?!?
Posted by Matus UHLAR - fantomas <uh...@fantomas.sk>.
> On 12-Aug-2009, at 23:30, richard@buzzhost.co.uk wrote:
>> On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 20:36 -0600, LuKreme wrote:
>>> I find my users almost never look at the SPAM
>>> mailbox
>> There is an easy fix for that - take that facility away :-)
On 13.08.09 05:18, LuKreme wrote:
> I am tempted. the various SPAM folders are more than half the mail
> storage. And since everything is backed-up... but yeah, it would be a
> bad idea and increase my workload. I can just throw more storage at the
> burgeoning Spam problem (and I do auto-delete after 7 days, so it's not
> nearly as bad as it once was.)
7 days is imho not enough. IF users forget to look at it, I'd give them at
leaast a month...
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Re: Ahh! What's all this SPAM?!?!?
Posted by LuKreme <kr...@kreme.com>.
On 12-Aug-2009, at 23:30, richard@buzzhost.co.uk wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 20:36 -0600, LuKreme wrote:
>> I find my users almost never look at the SPAM
>> mailbox
> There is an easy fix for that - take that facility away :-)
I am tempted. the various SPAM folders are more than half the mail
storage. And since everything is backed-up... but yeah, it would be a
bad idea and increase my workload. I can just throw more storage at
the burgeoning Spam problem (and I do auto-delete after 7 days, so
it's not nearly as bad as it once was.)
--
The hippo of recollection stirred in the muddy waters of the mind.
Re: Ahh! What's all this SPAM?!?!?
Posted by "richard@buzzhost.co.uk" <ri...@buzzhost.co.uk>.
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 20:36 -0600, LuKreme wrote:
> I find my users almost never look at the SPAM
> mailbox
There is an easy fix for that - take that facility away :-)
Re: Ahh! What's all this SPAM?!?!?
Posted by Mike Cardwell <sp...@lists.grepular.com>.
LuKreme wrote:
> Got quite a few emails today from users complaining about the huge
> onslaught of SPAM into their mailboxes. One user in particular is used
> to getting 2-5 email messages a day and logged in this morning to over
> 250 in the last 12 hours.
>
> So, I investigated.
>
> Ooops, I restarted spamd last night and forgot to check it had come up
> clean. 12 hours of no spamd running was an experience for my users.
>
> OTOH, several users' reactions oh, "Oh my god, I had no idea there was
> that much spam" (I find my users almost never look at the SPAM mailbox)
> has certainly elevated me in their eyes. Might not be a bad reminder
> every year or 18 months to 'accidently' stop spamd for a few hours!
You have two options when SpamAssassin fails, until you fix it:
1.) Accept all mail including spam
2.) Defer all mail delivery
I tend to go for number 2. My MTA just responds with a temporary error
if it can't speak to SpamAssassin.
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