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Game server - two player board game
Hi, I'm using Tomcat 4.1 to set up a game server for the two player board game, Tanbo (similar to Go). Basically, I will be providing one board and a waiting list, and a chat.
I need advice on how to set up the object architecture. I'm considering using an int array to represent the board. And possibly a separate class to evaluate legal moves.
I need advice on security, persistence, thread safety and anything else that I might need to know to make this a successful web site (tanbo.com).
Thanks in advance.
Mark Steere
gardener@sbcglobal.net
[OT] RE: Game server - two player board game
Posted by Jacob Hookom <ho...@uwec.edu>.
You might want to look that the wildtangent driver. It's not necessarily
made for multiplayer games, but we wrote an implementation in there that
worked with a servlet.
www.wildtangent.com
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From: Rasputin [mailto:rasputin@idoru.mine.nu]
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 9:01 AM
To: Steven J. Owens
Cc: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Game server - two player board game
* Steven J. Owens <pu...@darksleep.com> [0128 23:28]:
> On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 12:48:20PM -0800, Mark wrote:
> > Hi, I'm using Tomcat 4.1 to set up a game server for the two player
> > board game, Tanbo (similar to Go). Basically, I will be providing one
> > board and a waiting list, and a chat.
> >
> > I need advice on how to set up the object architecture. I'm
> > considering using an int array to represent the board. And possibly a
> > separate class to evaluate legal moves.
> >
> > I need advice on security, persistence, thread safety and anything
> > else that I might need to know to make this a successful web site
> > (tanbo.com).
> You might be better off asking for help at javagaming.org,
> gamedev.net, or possibly rec.games.programmer. Javagaming.org used to
> have a mailing list, but it appears they've dispensed with that in
> favor of a forums system on the website (frankly, I miss the mailing
> list). The Java3D-interest@java.sun.com mailing list is fairly active
> and (oddly enough) game programming oriented, so they might be able to
> help you out.
Thanks a lot for the link - I've tried several times to write online games,
and have never got a project off the ground because I don't
have clue about architecture.
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Re: Game server - two player board game
Posted by Rasputin <ra...@idoru.mine.nu>.
* Steven J. Owens <pu...@darksleep.com> [0128 23:28]:
> On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 12:48:20PM -0800, Mark wrote:
> > Hi, I'm using Tomcat 4.1 to set up a game server for the two player
> > board game, Tanbo (similar to Go). Basically, I will be providing one
> > board and a waiting list, and a chat.
> >
> > I need advice on how to set up the object architecture. I'm
> > considering using an int array to represent the board. And possibly a
> > separate class to evaluate legal moves.
> >
> > I need advice on security, persistence, thread safety and anything
> > else that I might need to know to make this a successful web site
> > (tanbo.com).
> You might be better off asking for help at javagaming.org,
> gamedev.net, or possibly rec.games.programmer. Javagaming.org used to
> have a mailing list, but it appears they've dispensed with that in
> favor of a forums system on the website (frankly, I miss the mailing
> list). The Java3D-interest@java.sun.com mailing list is fairly active
> and (oddly enough) game programming oriented, so they might be able to
> help you out.
Thanks a lot for the link - I've tried several times to write online games,
and have never got a project off the ground because I don't
have clue about architecture.
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Re: Game server - two player board game
Posted by "Steven J. Owens" <pu...@darksleep.com>.
On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 12:48:20PM -0800, Mark wrote:
> Hi, I'm using Tomcat 4.1 to set up a game server for the two player
> board game, Tanbo (similar to Go). Basically, I will be providing one
> board and a waiting list, and a chat.
>
> I need advice on how to set up the object architecture. I'm
> considering using an int array to represent the board. And possibly a
> separate class to evaluate legal moves.
>
> I need advice on security, persistence, thread safety and anything
> else that I might need to know to make this a successful web site
> (tanbo.com).
You might be better off asking for help at javagaming.org,
gamedev.net, or possibly rec.games.programmer. Javagaming.org used to
have a mailing list, but it appears they've dispensed with that in
favor of a forums system on the website (frankly, I miss the mailing
list). The Java3D-interest@java.sun.com mailing list is fairly active
and (oddly enough) game programming oriented, so they might be able to
help you out.
Steven J. Owens
puff@darksleep.com
"I'm going to make broad, sweeping generalizations and strong,
declarative statements, because otherwise I'll be here all night and
this document will be four times longer and much less fun to read.
Take it all with a grain of salt." - Me at http://darksleep.com
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Re: Game server - two player board game [OT]
Posted by Jason Pyeron <ja...@pyeron.com>.
Mark,
This is really off topic, but here it goes.
You have two tasks at hand:
1: specify / create backend [business] logic
2: specify / create frontend UI
If you design the backend in a bean architecture, the
threading/persistance issues should be non-existant or obvious at least.
as far as security you will have to define how much is enough.
for mild paranoia:
ssl login page
hashed passwords used
one login at a time allowed
if you would like more on architecture, please mail me off list.
-jason pyeron
On Sat, 18 Jan 2003, Mark wrote:
Hi, I'm using Tomcat 4.1 to set up a game server for the two player board game, Tanbo (similar to Go). Basically, I will be providing one board and a waiting list, and a chat.
I need advice on how to set up the object architecture. I'm considering using an int array to represent the board. And possibly a separate class to evaluate legal moves.
I need advice on security, persistence, thread safety and anything else that I might need to know to make this a successful web site (tanbo.com).
Thanks in advance.
Mark Steere
gardener@sbcglobal.net
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RE: Game server - two player board game
Posted by Jacob Hookom <ho...@uwec.edu>.
Usually, when speed is at stake, you would want to represent the board as a
2D array. For example you can write tic-tac-toe w/ AI in only a page of
code. If you are talking about applet->servlet communication or pseudo
object RMI, then you might want to pick up "Java Developers Guide to
Servlets and JSP" by Brogden pub. SYBEX. He has a whole chapter on applet
and servlet communication.
Jacob
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark [mailto:gardener@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 2:48 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Game server - two player board game
Hi, I'm using Tomcat 4.1 to set up a game server for the two player board
game, Tanbo (similar to Go). Basically, I will be providing one board and a
waiting list, and a chat.
I need advice on how to set up the object architecture. I'm considering
using an int array to represent the board. And possibly a separate class to
evaluate legal moves.
I need advice on security, persistence, thread safety and anything else that
I might need to know to make this a successful web site (tanbo.com).
Thanks in advance.
Mark Steere
gardener@sbcglobal.net
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