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[users@httpd] New to apache
Good Morning,
The person who installed apache for has left and we recently had a security audit done that recommended we upgrade our Apache 2.2.9 installation to 2.2.15 or later.
I have searched trying to find information on how to do this upgrade and whether or not it will break something and found nothing that made me comfortable doing this. Could you point me in the right direction for finding out how to do this upgrade.
I really appreciate any input you may have.
Tim Charron
Senior Systems Engineer | Business (860) 409-1709
ADNET Technologies, LLC
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RE: [users@httpd] New to apache
Posted by Tim Charron <TC...@thinkADNET.com>.
Thanks for that feed back, the OS is Windows 2003 R2 SP1
From: John Hudak [mailto:jjhudak@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 12:16 PM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] New to apache
I am a little surprised that they didn't recommend updating to 2.2.25 (the latest in the 2.2.x branch) or move up to 2.4.x branch. In any case.....
What OS are you using?
I don't have the changes/issues from 2.2.9 through 2.2.15 in my head....If you read the release notes for those versions, they should outline what changed and what may need to be changed on your system.
My experience is that doing just about any Apache upgrade usually breaks something. They way I do it is to read the release notes and make sure I understand the potential side effects of the update and then look into solutions to those potential problems so that if I do have a side effect, I have some chance of resolving it. I am not doing the upgrades on a production system so I don't have the speed urgency.
If it is a production system, can you clone it, try the upgrade, see if it works, and then switch over to the upgraded system??
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Tim Charron <TC...@thinkadnet.com>> wrote:
Good Morning,
The person who installed apache for has left and we recently had a security audit done that recommended we upgrade our Apache 2.2.9 installation to 2.2.15 or later.
I have searched trying to find information on how to do this upgrade and whether or not it will break something and found nothing that made me comfortable doing this. Could you point me in the right direction for finding out how to do this upgrade.
I really appreciate any input you may have.
Tim Charron
Senior Systems Engineer | Business (860) 409-1709<tel:%28860%29%20409-1709>
ADNET Technologies, LLC
www.thinkADNET.com<http://www.thinkADNET.com> | Follow @ADNETTech
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Re: [users@httpd] New to apache
Posted by John Hudak <jj...@gmail.com>.
I am a little surprised that they didn't recommend updating to 2.2.25 (the
latest in the 2.2.x branch) or move up to 2.4.x branch. In any case.....
What OS are you using?
I don't have the changes/issues from 2.2.9 through 2.2.15 in my head....If
you read the release notes for those versions, they should outline what
changed and what may need to be changed on your system.
My experience is that doing just about any Apache upgrade usually breaks
something. They way I do it is to read the release notes and make sure I
understand the potential side effects of the update and then look into
solutions to those potential problems so that if I do have a side effect, I
have some chance of resolving it. I am not doing the upgrades on a
production system so I don't have the speed urgency.
If it is a production system, can you clone it, try the upgrade, see if it
works, and then switch over to the upgraded system??
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Tim Charron <TC...@thinkadnet.com>wrote:
> Good Morning,
> The person who installed apache for has left and we recently had a
> security audit done that recommended we upgrade our Apache 2.2.9
> installation to 2.2.15 or later.
> I have searched trying to find information on how to do this upgrade and
> whether or not it will break something and found nothing that made me
> comfortable doing this. Could you point me in the right direction for
> finding out how to do this upgrade.
>
> I really appreciate any input you may have.
>
> Tim Charron
> Senior Systems Engineer | Business (860) 409-1709
>
> ADNET Technologies, LLC
> www.thinkADNET.com | Follow @ADNETTech
>
>
> Please consider the environment before printing this email
>
> ________________________________
> Join us for our Annual Chili Cook-Off & Food Drive on 11/7/13 Register at
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Re: [users@httpd] New to apache
Posted by Mike Rumph <mi...@oracle.com>.
Hello Tim,
You could be begin with the Apache httpd 2.2 upgrade instructions at the
following link:
- http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/install.html#upgrading
Please, let us know what specific issues you run into.
Thanks,
Mike Rumph
On 10/2/2013 8:24 AM, Tim Charron wrote:
> Good Morning,
> The person who installed apache for has left and we recently had a security audit done that recommended we upgrade our Apache 2.2.9 installation to 2.2.15 or later.
> I have searched trying to find information on how to do this upgrade and whether or not it will break something and found nothing that made me comfortable doing this. Could you point me in the right direction for finding out how to do this upgrade.
>
> I really appreciate any input you may have.
>
> Tim Charron
> Senior Systems Engineer | Business (860) 409-1709
>
> ADNET Technologies, LLC
> www.thinkADNET.com | Follow @ADNETTech
>
>
> Please consider the environment before printing this email
>
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Re: [users@httpd] New to apache
Posted by Colin 't Hart <co...@sharpheart.org>.
Actually, it would be quite easy to unzip an Apache 2.4 build (or even just
a newer 2.2 build) next to the existing 2.2 install and configure it. Shut
down the existing 2.2 and start up the new 2.4 (or the new 2.2). It might
take a few goes back-n-forth, but if you can afford a little down time this
is the approach I would take.
Cheers,
Colin
On 2 October 2013 19:45, Nick Tkach <nt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, if it's an option I'd *strongly* urge you to clone one of the servers
> you're needing to upgrade (at least in terms of the Apache) and try the
> upgrade there. If you can clone it as a VM of some sort that would work
> even better because you could set everything up, snapshot it, do your work,
> and if there's a problem just roll it back.
>
> A lot depends on which modules and how you're using them too. Upgrades in
> my experience have not been *quite* as bad if you're using just standard
> Apache modules (like mod_rewrite). If you're using third-party things that
> Apache doesn't support directly, then you could run into issues with
> versions there.
>
> But then again, I've only ever done Apache on Solaris/Linux, so YMMV as
> they say.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:40 AM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain <da...@vex.net> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 12:27:39 -0400
>> "SHERMAN Matt (CANBERRA)" <ma...@canberra.com> wrote:
>> > As Tim said earlier, it was an in-house IT Administrator that
>> > originally installed this to work in conjunction with PHP. It was
>> > installed years ago, and the administrator has since left the
>> > company. Can you tell us what the differences are between 2.2.9 and
>> > 2.2.15?
>>
>> Someone else pointed you to the release notes I think. The main issue
>> will be with local configuration.
>>
>> > The Operating System is Server 2003 SP2 x86.
>>
>> Not sure what that is. Sounds like Windows? Can't help you there if
>> it is. I run Unix everywhere.
>>
>> --
>> D'Arcy J.M. Cain
>> System Administrator, Vex.Net
>> http://www.Vex.Net/ IM:darcy@Vex.Net
>> VoIP: sip:darcy@Vex.Net
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Re: [users@httpd] New to apache
Posted by Nick Tkach <nt...@gmail.com>.
Yes, if it's an option I'd *strongly* urge you to clone one of the servers
you're needing to upgrade (at least in terms of the Apache) and try the
upgrade there. If you can clone it as a VM of some sort that would work
even better because you could set everything up, snapshot it, do your work,
and if there's a problem just roll it back.
A lot depends on which modules and how you're using them too. Upgrades in
my experience have not been *quite* as bad if you're using just standard
Apache modules (like mod_rewrite). If you're using third-party things that
Apache doesn't support directly, then you could run into issues with
versions there.
But then again, I've only ever done Apache on Solaris/Linux, so YMMV as
they say.
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:40 AM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain <da...@vex.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 12:27:39 -0400
> "SHERMAN Matt (CANBERRA)" <ma...@canberra.com> wrote:
> > As Tim said earlier, it was an in-house IT Administrator that
> > originally installed this to work in conjunction with PHP. It was
> > installed years ago, and the administrator has since left the
> > company. Can you tell us what the differences are between 2.2.9 and
> > 2.2.15?
>
> Someone else pointed you to the release notes I think. The main issue
> will be with local configuration.
>
> > The Operating System is Server 2003 SP2 x86.
>
> Not sure what that is. Sounds like Windows? Can't help you there if
> it is. I run Unix everywhere.
>
> --
> D'Arcy J.M. Cain
> System Administrator, Vex.Net
> http://www.Vex.Net/ IM:darcy@Vex.Net
> VoIP: sip:darcy@Vex.Net
>
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Re: [users@httpd] New to apache
Posted by "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <da...@Vex.Net>.
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 12:27:39 -0400
"SHERMAN Matt (CANBERRA)" <ma...@canberra.com> wrote:
> As Tim said earlier, it was an in-house IT Administrator that
> originally installed this to work in conjunction with PHP. It was
> installed years ago, and the administrator has since left the
> company. Can you tell us what the differences are between 2.2.9 and
> 2.2.15?
Someone else pointed you to the release notes I think. The main issue
will be with local configuration.
> The Operating System is Server 2003 SP2 x86.
Not sure what that is. Sounds like Windows? Can't help you there if
it is. I run Unix everywhere.
--
D'Arcy J.M. Cain
System Administrator, Vex.Net
http://www.Vex.Net/ IM:darcy@Vex.Net
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Re: [users@httpd] New to apache
Posted by "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <da...@Vex.Net>.
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013 15:24:30 +0000
Tim Charron <TC...@thinkADNET.com> wrote:
> The person who installed apache for has left and we recently had a
> security audit done that recommended we upgrade our Apache 2.2.9
> installation to 2.2.15 or later. I have searched trying to find
> information on how to do this upgrade and whether or not it will
> break something and found nothing that made me comfortable doing
> this. Could you point me in the right direction for finding out how
> to do this upgrade.
If you needed to hire someone to install Apache you probably need to
hire someone to upgrade it. For one thing, they may have done stuff
that was not quite standard. For another, if things do break someone
will need to look at updating your local configs.
I see that you are in Farmington, CT. Maybe someone local can help or,
if you are comfortable with it, someone can work remotely. Either way,
you need to tell us what environment you are in, especially what
operating system you are using.
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System Administrator, Vex.Net
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