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Posted to common-user@hadoop.apache.org by Travis Camechis <ca...@gmail.com> on 2011/08/15 19:45:04 UTC

hadoop cluster on VM's

Is it recommended to install a hadoop cluster on a set of VM's that are all
connected to a SAN?

Thanks,
Travis

Re: hadoop cluster on VM's

Posted by Travis Camechis <ca...@gmail.com>.
My suspicion is correct it is not a good idea but mainly I was talking about
a Vmware VSphere setup with the whole vmotion thing.

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Liam Friel <li...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 7:31 PM, GOEKE, MATTHEW (AG/1000) <
> matthew.goeke@monsanto.com> wrote:
>
> > Is this just for testing purposes or are you planning on going into
> > production with this? If it is the latter than I would STRONGLY advise to
> > not give that a second thought due to how the framework handles I/O.
> However
> > if you are just trying to test out distributed daemon setup and get some
> ops
> > documentation then have at it :)
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Travis Camechis [mailto:camechis@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 12:45 PM
> > To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org
> > Subject: hadoop cluster on VM's
> >
> > Is it recommended to install a hadoop cluster on a set of VM's that are
> all
> > connected to a SAN?
> >
> >
> Could you expand on that? Do you mean multiple VMs on a single server are a
> no-no?
> Or do you mean running Hadoop on something like Amazon EC2 for production
> is
> also a no-no?
> With some pointers to background if the latter please ...
>
> Just for my education. I have run some (test I guess you could call them)
> Hadoop clusters on EC2 and it was working OK.
> However I didn't have the equivalent pile of physical hardware lying around
> to do a comparison ... which I guess is why EC2 is so attractive.
>
> Ta
> Liam
>

Re: hadoop cluster on VM's

Posted by Travis Camechis <ca...@gmail.com>.
agreed

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 4:15 PM, GOEKE, MATTHEW (AG/1000) <
matthew.goeke@monsanto.com> wrote:

> I was referring to multiple VM's on a single machine (that you have in
> house) for my previous comment and not EC2. FWIW, I would rather see a
> single heavy data node than to partition off a single box into multiple
> machines unless you are trying to do more on that server than just Hadoop.
> Obviously every person / company has their own constraints but if this box
> is solely for Hadoop then don't partition it otherwise you will incur a
> decent loss in possible map/reduce slots.
>
> Matt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Liam Friel [mailto:liam.friel@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 3:04 PM
> To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org
> Subject: Re: hadoop cluster on VM's
>
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 7:31 PM, GOEKE, MATTHEW (AG/1000) <
> matthew.goeke@monsanto.com> wrote:
>
> > Is this just for testing purposes or are you planning on going into
> > production with this? If it is the latter than I would STRONGLY advise to
> > not give that a second thought due to how the framework handles I/O.
> However
> > if you are just trying to test out distributed daemon setup and get some
> ops
> > documentation then have at it :)
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Travis Camechis [mailto:camechis@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 12:45 PM
> > To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org
> > Subject: hadoop cluster on VM's
> >
> > Is it recommended to install a hadoop cluster on a set of VM's that are
> all
> > connected to a SAN?
> >
> >
> Could you expand on that? Do you mean multiple VMs on a single server are a
> no-no?
> Or do you mean running Hadoop on something like Amazon EC2 for production
> is
> also a no-no?
> With some pointers to background if the latter please ...
>
> Just for my education. I have run some (test I guess you could call them)
> Hadoop clusters on EC2 and it was working OK.
> However I didn't have the equivalent pile of physical hardware lying around
> to do a comparison ... which I guess is why EC2 is so attractive.
>
> Ta
> Liam
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Unit testing MR without dependency injection

Posted by "GOEKE, MATTHEW (AG/1000)" <ma...@monsanto.com>.
Does anyone have any code examples for how they persist join data across multiple input splits and how they test it? Currently I populate a singleton in the setup method of my mapper (along with having jvm reuse turned on for this job) but with no way to have dependency injection into the mapper I am really having a hard time with wrapping a UT around the code. I could have a package scoped setter simply for testing purposes but that just feels dirty to be honest. Any help is greatly appreciated and I have both MRUnit and Mockito at my disposal.

  private BitPackedMarkerMap markerMap = BitPackedMarkerMapSingleton.getInstance().getMarkerMap();
  private int numberOfIndividuals = -999;
  private int numberOfAlleles = -999;

  @Override
  protected void setup(Context context) throws IOException, InterruptedException {
    LongPackedDoubleInteger inputSizes;
    if(markerMap.getSize() == 0){
    FileInputStream scoresInputStream = null;
      try{
        Path[] cacheFiles = DistributedCache.getLocalCacheFiles(context.getConfiguration());
        if (cacheFiles != null && cacheFiles.length > 0){
          scoresInputStream = new FileInputStream(cacheFiles[0].toString());
          inputSizes = markerMap.parse(scoresInputStream);
          numberOfIndividuals = inputSizes.getInt1();
          numberOfAlleles = inputSizes.getInt2();
        }
      } catch (IOException e){
        System.err.println("Exception reading DistributedCache: " + e);
        throw e;
      }finally {
        if(scoresInputStream != null){
          scoresInputStream.close();
        }
      }
    }
  }




Matt
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Re: hadoop cluster on VM's

Posted by Liam Friel <li...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:15 PM, GOEKE, MATTHEW (AG/1000) <
matthew.goeke@monsanto.com> wrote:

> I was referring to multiple VM's on a single machine (that you have in
> house) for my previous comment and not EC2. FWIW, I would rather see a
> single heavy data node than to partition off a single box into multiple
> machines unless you are trying to do more on that server than just Hadoop.
> Obviously every person / company has their own constraints but if this box
> is solely for Hadoop then don't partition it otherwise you will incur a
> decent loss in possible map/reduce slots.
>
> Matt
>
>
OK. Makes sense (I wouldn't try that either, for production).
Thanks
Liam

RE: hadoop cluster on VM's

Posted by "GOEKE, MATTHEW (AG/1000)" <ma...@monsanto.com>.
I was referring to multiple VM's on a single machine (that you have in house) for my previous comment and not EC2. FWIW, I would rather see a single heavy data node than to partition off a single box into multiple machines unless you are trying to do more on that server than just Hadoop. Obviously every person / company has their own constraints but if this box is solely for Hadoop then don't partition it otherwise you will incur a decent loss in possible map/reduce slots.

Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: Liam Friel [mailto:liam.friel@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 3:04 PM
To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org
Subject: Re: hadoop cluster on VM's

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 7:31 PM, GOEKE, MATTHEW (AG/1000) <
matthew.goeke@monsanto.com> wrote:

> Is this just for testing purposes or are you planning on going into
> production with this? If it is the latter than I would STRONGLY advise to
> not give that a second thought due to how the framework handles I/O. However
> if you are just trying to test out distributed daemon setup and get some ops
> documentation then have at it :)
>
> Matt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Travis Camechis [mailto:camechis@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 12:45 PM
> To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org
> Subject: hadoop cluster on VM's
>
> Is it recommended to install a hadoop cluster on a set of VM's that are all
> connected to a SAN?
>
>
Could you expand on that? Do you mean multiple VMs on a single server are a
no-no?
Or do you mean running Hadoop on something like Amazon EC2 for production is
also a no-no?
With some pointers to background if the latter please ...

Just for my education. I have run some (test I guess you could call them)
Hadoop clusters on EC2 and it was working OK.
However I didn't have the equivalent pile of physical hardware lying around
to do a comparison ... which I guess is why EC2 is so attractive.

Ta
Liam
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Re: hadoop cluster on VM's

Posted by Liam Friel <li...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 7:31 PM, GOEKE, MATTHEW (AG/1000) <
matthew.goeke@monsanto.com> wrote:

> Is this just for testing purposes or are you planning on going into
> production with this? If it is the latter than I would STRONGLY advise to
> not give that a second thought due to how the framework handles I/O. However
> if you are just trying to test out distributed daemon setup and get some ops
> documentation then have at it :)
>
> Matt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Travis Camechis [mailto:camechis@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 12:45 PM
> To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org
> Subject: hadoop cluster on VM's
>
> Is it recommended to install a hadoop cluster on a set of VM's that are all
> connected to a SAN?
>
>
Could you expand on that? Do you mean multiple VMs on a single server are a
no-no?
Or do you mean running Hadoop on something like Amazon EC2 for production is
also a no-no?
With some pointers to background if the latter please ...

Just for my education. I have run some (test I guess you could call them)
Hadoop clusters on EC2 and it was working OK.
However I didn't have the equivalent pile of physical hardware lying around
to do a comparison ... which I guess is why EC2 is so attractive.

Ta
Liam

RE: hadoop cluster on VM's

Posted by "GOEKE, MATTHEW (AG/1000)" <ma...@monsanto.com>.
Is this just for testing purposes or are you planning on going into production with this? If it is the latter than I would STRONGLY advise to not give that a second thought due to how the framework handles I/O. However if you are just trying to test out distributed daemon setup and get some ops documentation then have at it :)

Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: Travis Camechis [mailto:camechis@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 12:45 PM
To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org
Subject: hadoop cluster on VM's

Is it recommended to install a hadoop cluster on a set of VM's that are all
connected to a SAN?

Thanks,
Travis
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