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Posted to l10n@openoffice.apache.org by Tal Daniel <ta...@gmail.com> on 2014/05/31 07:52:16 UTC
[HE] Borders / Frames translation
For day 1, I saw a problem in translating Borders to גבולות (literally:
limits, or country borders). Borders are used as separator lines, and
sometimes are titled "border lines". A while ago, I've changed Borders
translation across AOO to מסגרות (frames), to be more clear and use a more
common word, than גבולות, which is not a good choice, TMHO, in this case
(although that's what MS Office used, or still use).
As a result of that, the translation of "Frame" and "Borders" was the same
(מסגרות), so I finally chose to solve that by also changing the translation
of Frames to either אזור-מסגרת, או (frame-area), אזור-ממוסגר
(framed-area), or איזור-תחום (framed/confined-area).
I haven't decided yet which translation I'll choose for the Frames
translation.
Do you have any preference for the translation of the word Frames?
Tal
Re: [HE] Borders / Frames translation
Posted by Yaron Shahrabani <sh...@gmail.com>.
Are you using a Mac, Windows or Linux?
The general convention in the large open source projects is using this kind
of characters and I know because I learned from them and applied it myself
to some of the projects I maintain.
The Keyboard layout is called SI1452 and I'll be happy to assist you with
the installation, these characters are important mainly because it's a
writing software and the users are becoming more and more aware of these if
we are using them.
Yaron Shahrabani
<Hebrew translator>
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 10:32 PM, Tal Daniel <ta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, May 31, Yaron Shahrabani wrote:
>
> > I support your מסגרות decision.
> >
> > As for the second set of suggestions I would go with איזור תחום (the
> > joining Maqaf is not needed).
> >
> > Thanks for your agreement & suggestion, Yaron.
>
>
> > BTW are you using the proper Hebrew symbols in your translation? (Maqaf -
> > ־, Geresh - ׳, Gershayim - ״, Proper Hebrew quotation symbols - „“, etc.)
> >
> > No, I'm using the more common characters that the Hebrew keyboard offers,
> for now. I also use single-quotes and double-quotes as shown in the
> English.
> As for the Maqaf character, I while ago I shared with you, that I think
> that it isn't that legible on screens (I mean it's is more suitable for
> print, TMHO). However, we can make a vote on that, in the future, and make
> a batch change of all occurrences. Also, it's not that easy to type it,
> using the keyboard. any suggestion?
>
> Tal
>
>
> On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Tal Daniel <ta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > For day 1, I saw a problem in translating Borders to גבולות (literally:
> > > limits, or country borders). Borders are used as separator lines, and
> > > sometimes are titled "border lines". A while ago, I've changed Borders
> > > translation across AOO to מסגרות (frames), to be more clear and use a
> > more
> > > common word, than גבולות, which is not a good choice, TMHO, in this
> case
> > > (although that's what MS Office used, or still use).
> > >
> > > As a result of that, the translation of "Frame" and "Borders" was the
> > same
> > > (מסגרות), so I finally chose to solve that by also changing the
> > translation
> > > of Frames to either אזור-מסגרת, או (frame-area), אזור-ממוסגר
> > > (framed-area), or איזור-תחום (framed/confined-area).
> > >
> > > I haven't decided yet which translation I'll choose for the Frames
> > > translation.
> > > Do you have any preference for the translation of the word Frames?
> > >
> > > Tal
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> טל
>
Re: [HE] Borders / Frames translation
Posted by Tal Daniel <ta...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, May 31, Yaron Shahrabani wrote:
> I support your מסגרות decision.
>
> As for the second set of suggestions I would go with איזור תחום (the
> joining Maqaf is not needed).
>
> Thanks for your agreement & suggestion, Yaron.
> BTW are you using the proper Hebrew symbols in your translation? (Maqaf -
> ־, Geresh - ׳, Gershayim - ״, Proper Hebrew quotation symbols - „“, etc.)
>
> No, I'm using the more common characters that the Hebrew keyboard offers,
for now. I also use single-quotes and double-quotes as shown in the English.
As for the Maqaf character, I while ago I shared with you, that I think
that it isn't that legible on screens (I mean it's is more suitable for
print, TMHO). However, we can make a vote on that, in the future, and make
a batch change of all occurrences. Also, it's not that easy to type it,
using the keyboard. any suggestion?
Tal
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Tal Daniel <ta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > For day 1, I saw a problem in translating Borders to גבולות (literally:
> > limits, or country borders). Borders are used as separator lines, and
> > sometimes are titled "border lines". A while ago, I've changed Borders
> > translation across AOO to מסגרות (frames), to be more clear and use a
> more
> > common word, than גבולות, which is not a good choice, TMHO, in this case
> > (although that's what MS Office used, or still use).
> >
> > As a result of that, the translation of "Frame" and "Borders" was the
> same
> > (מסגרות), so I finally chose to solve that by also changing the
> translation
> > of Frames to either אזור-מסגרת, או (frame-area), אזור-ממוסגר
> > (framed-area), or איזור-תחום (framed/confined-area).
> >
> > I haven't decided yet which translation I'll choose for the Frames
> > translation.
> > Do you have any preference for the translation of the word Frames?
> >
> > Tal
> >
>
--
טל
Re: [HE] Borders / Frames translation
Posted by Yaron Shahrabani <sh...@gmail.com>.
Hi Tal,
I support your מסגרות decision.
As for the second set of suggestions I would go with איזור תחום (the
joining Maqaf is not needed).
BTW are you using the proper Hebrew symbols in your translation? (Maqaf -
־, Geresh - ׳, Gershayim - ״, Proper Hebrew quotation symbols - „“, etc.)
Yaron Shahrabani
<Hebrew translator>
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Tal Daniel <ta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For day 1, I saw a problem in translating Borders to גבולות (literally:
> limits, or country borders). Borders are used as separator lines, and
> sometimes are titled "border lines". A while ago, I've changed Borders
> translation across AOO to מסגרות (frames), to be more clear and use a more
> common word, than גבולות, which is not a good choice, TMHO, in this case
> (although that's what MS Office used, or still use).
>
> As a result of that, the translation of "Frame" and "Borders" was the same
> (מסגרות), so I finally chose to solve that by also changing the translation
> of Frames to either אזור-מסגרת, או (frame-area), אזור-ממוסגר
> (framed-area), or איזור-תחום (framed/confined-area).
>
> I haven't decided yet which translation I'll choose for the Frames
> translation.
> Do you have any preference for the translation of the word Frames?
>
> Tal
>