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Posted to dev@tomcat.apache.org by Mladen Turk <mt...@apache.org> on 2020/12/18 20:10:10 UTC
Replacement for Windows service wrapper (procrun)
Hi
We use Procrun from Apache Commons Daemon project
as a service wrapper for Apache Tomcat for quite some time.
There are many problems with that package.
I have created a project named SvcBatch
https://github.com/mturk/svcbatch
It can be used for various deployments.
Apache Tomcat can use catalina.bat directly
for running service ... more details at
https://github.com/mturk/svcbatch/blob/master/docs/examples/apachetomcat.md
I'd love to get some feedback from folks
that are using Apache Tomcat on Windows platform.
Regards
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Re: Replacement for Windows service wrapper (procrun)
Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
Mladen,
On 12/20/20 09:40, Mladen Turk wrote:
> On 19/12/2020 00:16, Christopher Schultz wrote:
>> Mladen,
>>
>> On 12/18/20 15:10, Mladen Turk wrote:
>>>
>>> It can be used for various deployments.
>>> Apache Tomcat can use catalina.bat directly
>>> for running service ... more details at
>>> https://github.com/mturk/svcbatch/blob/master/docs/examples/apachetomcat.md
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd love to get some feedback from folks
>>> that are using Apache Tomcat on Windows platform.
>>
>> I don't generally use Windows, so I don't have a horse in this race,
>> but I'm curious as to the complaints against procrun versus what
>> SvcBatch provides. Can you give some examples of problems that
>> SvcBatch solves?
>>
>
> The major problem it solves is single point of configuration.
> SvcBatch uses catalina.bat to run Tomcat, so there is no
> need for additional configuration which Procrun saves in registry.
Gotcha. This is indeed a significant improvement IMO. Being able to more
easily script things is always good, and working with on-disk config
files is always easier (again, IMHO).
> Also using GUI for configuration is unproductive
> when there are many instances that need to be configured,
> and particularly for servers versions that do not have GUI.
You can theoretically specify everything from the command-line but if
you want to change something you essentially have to delete the service
and re-create it unless you want to use the GUI. The recent addition of
being able to export the registry-based configuration to a script helps
significantly, but it's still putting the live config into the registry.
>> The process for SvcBatch seems to be fairly similar to that of procrun.
>>
>
> Nope. They are quite far apart.
Not really from a novice's perspective (i.e. mine). Perhaps from a
power-admin's perspective, SvcBatch is more powerful.
-chris
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Re: Replacement for Windows service wrapper (procrun)
Posted by Mladen Turk <mt...@apache.org>.
On 19/12/2020 00:16, Christopher Schultz wrote:
> Mladen,
>
> On 12/18/20 15:10, Mladen Turk wrote:
>>
>> It can be used for various deployments.
>> Apache Tomcat can use catalina.bat directly
>> for running service ... more details at
>> https://github.com/mturk/svcbatch/blob/master/docs/examples/apachetomcat.md
>>
>>
>> I'd love to get some feedback from folks
>> that are using Apache Tomcat on Windows platform.
>
> I don't generally use Windows, so I don't have a horse in this race, but I'm curious as to the complaints against procrun versus what SvcBatch provides. Can you give some examples of problems that SvcBatch solves?
>
The major problem it solves is single point of configuration.
SvcBatch uses catalina.bat to run Tomcat, so there is no
need for additional configuration which Procrun saves in registry.
Also using GUI for configuration is unproductive
when there are many instances that need to be configured,
and particularly for servers versions that do not have GUI.
>
> The process for SvcBatch seems to be fairly similar to that of procrun.
>
Nope. They are quite far apart.
Regards
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Re: Replacement for Windows service wrapper (procrun)
Posted by calder <ca...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Dec 18, 2020, 17:16 Christopher Schultz <
chris@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
> Mladen,
>
> > I'd love to get some feedback from folks
> > that are using Apache Tomcat on Windows platform.
>
> I don't generally use Windows, so I don't have a horse in this race, but
> I'm curious as to the complaints against procrun versus what SvcBatch
> provides.
Can you give some examples of problems that SvcBatch solves?
>
+1
I think Mark already commented (though my memory is always questionable) on
this subject : )
It's been a while since I configured a Tomcat on Windows, but it
> generally ends up being something like:
>
> SERVICE.BAT install MyTomcatInstanceName
Re: Replacement for Windows service wrapper (procrun)
Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
Mladen,
On 12/18/20 15:10, Mladen Turk wrote:
> We use Procrun from Apache Commons Daemon project
> as a service wrapper for Apache Tomcat for quite some time.
> There are many problems with that package.
>
> I have created a project named SvcBatch
> https://github.com/mturk/svcbatch
>
> It can be used for various deployments.
> Apache Tomcat can use catalina.bat directly
> for running service ... more details at
> https://github.com/mturk/svcbatch/blob/master/docs/examples/apachetomcat.md
>
>
> I'd love to get some feedback from folks
> that are using Apache Tomcat on Windows platform.
I don't generally use Windows, so I don't have a horse in this race, but
I'm curious as to the complaints against procrun versus what SvcBatch
provides. Can you give some examples of problems that SvcBatch solves?
It's been a while since I configured a Tomcat on Windows, but it
generally ends up being something like:
SERVICE.BAT install MyTomcatInstanceName
When you need to specify custom JVM options you mostly use the GUI to
change them after the fact, but you can use %JvmArgs% to specify them,
too. You can also use %JAVA_HOME%, %CATALINA_HOME%, and %CATALINA_BASE%
if necessary.
The process for SvcBatch seems to be fairly similar to that of procrun.
-chris
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