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Posted to dev@cloudstack.apache.org by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> on 2012/11/09 17:08:10 UTC
[DISCUSS] Site Analytics?
Since we transitioned cloudstack.org to the Apache Incubator site, we no
longer have any analytics running on CloudStack.org.
I wanted to ask whether we'd like to remedy that.
The first question is - would we like to set up something like Google
Analytics or Piwik to track visitors to CloudStack.org and also gather
information on what pages they visit, how long they stay, where they
came from, etc.
The second question, if the answer to the first one is "yes," is what
we'd like to use?
Google Analytics would be the easiest, because all we'd need to do is
slap in their code and grant access to interested committers/PPMC
members on Google.
The downside is that we're using Google, which some folks may be
uncomfortable with.
I've also worked with Piwik and could easily set up an instance to track
our analytics - this would have the benefit of letting the project
retain control of the data (i.e., not a third party like Google) and not
require people sign up for a Google account (if they don't already have
one).
Thoughts? I'm volunteering to set up either of those options if we're
comfortable with one or the other.
Thanks!
Joe
--
Joe Brockmeier
Twitter: @jzb
http://dissociatedpress.net/
RE: [DISCUSS] Site Analytics?
Posted by Rajesh Battala <ra...@citrix.com>.
Other site analytics like FireStats, Woopra, Grape opensource can track good metrics.
But Pwiki sounds gr8.
Thanks
Rajesh Battala
-----Original Message-----
From: Rajesh Battala [mailto:rajesh.battala@citrix.com]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:27 PM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Site Analytics?
Pwiki can get the below metrics.
I feel pwiki can be a good choice to use to track CS.
Thanks
Rajesh Battala
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:jzb@zonker.net]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:03 PM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Site Analytics?
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 09:52:28PM +0530, Rohit Yadav wrote:
> How do other Apache projects set up their site analytics, or do they even do that (track user requests)?
>
> The idea is good but I would support the analysis and data used to do
> the same that is public; so analysis no. of issues, bugfixes, commits,
> emails exchanged over ml to get analytics of CloudStack as an
> opensource project; so I really like the *stacks analysis:
> http://www.qyjohn.net/?p=2427
The community analysis is nice, but that gives us nothing in terms of
*user* interaction or how successful (or not) the Web site is.
I'm looking for:
- how many users visit the site?
- what pages do they visit?
- how long do they stay on those pages?
- where did they come from?
(Analytics would also tell us about browser, OS, etc. - but really, I don't think that's terribly useful in our use.)
> May be just have a simple counter of
> how many visitors visited, as a privacy and eff supporter I don't like
> the idea of tracking user agent data, I'm fine with anonymous
> counting, analysis of visitor data, no. of downloads etc. but that's
> just me. >
We'd need an analytics package to get even a simple counter, pretty sure. We could set up something like a site image stored on S3 or another site that is called every time someone hits the site, but that wouldn't tell us much.
I'm also an EFF supporter, but we're not trying to do anything nefarious with the data - just see where we can improve the Web site.
--
Joe Brockmeier
Twitter: @jzb
http://dissociatedpress.net/
RE: [DISCUSS] Site Analytics?
Posted by Rajesh Battala <ra...@citrix.com>.
Pwiki can get the below metrics.
I feel pwiki can be a good choice to use to track CS.
Thanks
Rajesh Battala
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:jzb@zonker.net]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:03 PM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Site Analytics?
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 09:52:28PM +0530, Rohit Yadav wrote:
> How do other Apache projects set up their site analytics, or do they even do that (track user requests)?
>
> The idea is good but I would support the analysis and data used to do
> the same that is public; so analysis no. of issues, bugfixes, commits,
> emails exchanged over ml to get analytics of CloudStack as an
> opensource project; so I really like the *stacks analysis:
> http://www.qyjohn.net/?p=2427
The community analysis is nice, but that gives us nothing in terms of
*user* interaction or how successful (or not) the Web site is.
I'm looking for:
- how many users visit the site?
- what pages do they visit?
- how long do they stay on those pages?
- where did they come from?
(Analytics would also tell us about browser, OS, etc. - but really, I don't think that's terribly useful in our use.)
> May be just have a simple counter of
> how many visitors visited, as a privacy and eff supporter I don't like
> the idea of tracking user agent data, I'm fine with anonymous
> counting, analysis of visitor data, no. of downloads etc. but that's
> just me. >
We'd need an analytics package to get even a simple counter, pretty sure. We could set up something like a site image stored on S3 or another site that is called every time someone hits the site, but that wouldn't tell us much.
I'm also an EFF supporter, but we're not trying to do anything nefarious with the data - just see where we can improve the Web site.
--
Joe Brockmeier
Twitter: @jzb
http://dissociatedpress.net/
Re: [DISCUSS] Site Analytics?
Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 10:10:23PM +0530, Rohit Yadav wrote:
> Alright, in that case there is no good enough opensource analytics
> software, we can go with google analytics or mixpanel.
So - to be clear, Piwik is "good enough" (I think it holds its own
pretty well against Google Analytics) it just means that we would be
tracking some user agent data, etc.
It's open source - and the project would hold the data instead of google
- but it still tracks the data you're talking about.
________________________________________
> From: Joe Brockmeier [jzb@zonker.net]
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:02 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Site Analytics?
>
> On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 09:52:28PM +0530, Rohit Yadav wrote:
> > How do other Apache projects set up their site analytics, or do they even do that (track user requests)?
> >
> > The idea is good but I would support the analysis and data used
> > to do the same that is public; so analysis no. of issues, bugfixes,
> > commits, emails exchanged over ml to get analytics of CloudStack
> > as an opensource project; so I really like the *stacks analysis:
> > http://www.qyjohn.net/?p=2427
>
> The community analysis is nice, but that gives us nothing in terms of
> *user* interaction or how successful (or not) the Web site is.
>
> I'm looking for:
>
> - how many users visit the site?
> - what pages do they visit?
> - how long do they stay on those pages?
> - where did they come from?
>
> (Analytics would also tell us about browser, OS, etc. - but really, I
> don't think that's terribly useful in our use.)
>
> > May be just have a simple counter of
> > how many visitors visited, as a privacy and eff supporter I don't like
> > the idea of tracking user agent data, I'm fine with anonymous counting,
> > analysis of visitor data, no. of downloads etc. but that's just me. >
>
> We'd need an analytics package to get even a simple counter, pretty
> sure. We could set up something like a site image stored on S3 or
> another site that is called every time someone hits the site, but that
> wouldn't tell us much.
>
> I'm also an EFF supporter, but we're not trying to do anything nefarious
> with the data - just see where we can improve the Web site.
> --
> Joe Brockmeier
> Twitter: @jzb
> http://dissociatedpress.net/
--
Joe Brockmeier
Twitter: @jzb
http://dissociatedpress.net/
RE: [DISCUSS] Site Analytics?
Posted by Rohit Yadav <ro...@citrix.com>.
Alright, in that case there is no good enough opensource analytics software, we can go with google analytics or mixpanel.
________________________________________
From: Joe Brockmeier [jzb@zonker.net]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:02 PM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Site Analytics?
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 09:52:28PM +0530, Rohit Yadav wrote:
> How do other Apache projects set up their site analytics, or do they even do that (track user requests)?
>
> The idea is good but I would support the analysis and data used
> to do the same that is public; so analysis no. of issues, bugfixes,
> commits, emails exchanged over ml to get analytics of CloudStack
> as an opensource project; so I really like the *stacks analysis:
> http://www.qyjohn.net/?p=2427
The community analysis is nice, but that gives us nothing in terms of
*user* interaction or how successful (or not) the Web site is.
I'm looking for:
- how many users visit the site?
- what pages do they visit?
- how long do they stay on those pages?
- where did they come from?
(Analytics would also tell us about browser, OS, etc. - but really, I
don't think that's terribly useful in our use.)
> May be just have a simple counter of
> how many visitors visited, as a privacy and eff supporter I don't like
> the idea of tracking user agent data, I'm fine with anonymous counting,
> analysis of visitor data, no. of downloads etc. but that's just me. >
We'd need an analytics package to get even a simple counter, pretty
sure. We could set up something like a site image stored on S3 or
another site that is called every time someone hits the site, but that
wouldn't tell us much.
I'm also an EFF supporter, but we're not trying to do anything nefarious
with the data - just see where we can improve the Web site.
--
Joe Brockmeier
Twitter: @jzb
http://dissociatedpress.net/
Re: [DISCUSS] Site Analytics?
Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 11:49:21AM -0500, Chip Childers wrote:
> Given our international audience, I believe that we need to err on the
> side of caution here. I'd suggest following the lead of many EU
> focused sites, and be explicit about any tracking cookie. We'd need
> an opt-out as well.
That gets more complicated. I assume it's possible, but not sure how to
do it. I'll have to dig into that.
> Another option would be to simply use the web server's logs. Infra
> has some details on how to get access to them. That would mean that
> we wouldn't need cookies, and we'd lose a bit of data around
> individual user paths... but we would get the raw page hit counts.
Can we? If we can get the raw logs, that would be OK. As you say, it
doesn't give all the info - but it would be a good middle ground if
folks don't want to do full-blown analytics.
--
Joe Brockmeier
Twitter: @jzb
http://dissociatedpress.net/
Re: [DISCUSS] Site Analytics?
Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com>.
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 09:52:28PM +0530, Rohit Yadav wrote:
>> How do other Apache projects set up their site analytics, or do they even do that (track user requests)?
>>
>> The idea is good but I would support the analysis and data used
>> to do the same that is public; so analysis no. of issues, bugfixes,
>> commits, emails exchanged over ml to get analytics of CloudStack
>> as an opensource project; so I really like the *stacks analysis:
>> http://www.qyjohn.net/?p=2427
>
> The community analysis is nice, but that gives us nothing in terms of
> *user* interaction or how successful (or not) the Web site is.
>
> I'm looking for:
>
> - how many users visit the site?
> - what pages do they visit?
> - how long do they stay on those pages?
> - where did they come from?
>
> (Analytics would also tell us about browser, OS, etc. - but really, I
> don't think that's terribly useful in our use.)
>
>> May be just have a simple counter of
>> how many visitors visited, as a privacy and eff supporter I don't like
>> the idea of tracking user agent data, I'm fine with anonymous counting,
>> analysis of visitor data, no. of downloads etc. but that's just me. >
>
> We'd need an analytics package to get even a simple counter, pretty
> sure. We could set up something like a site image stored on S3 or
> another site that is called every time someone hits the site, but that
> wouldn't tell us much.
>
> I'm also an EFF supporter, but we're not trying to do anything nefarious
> with the data - just see where we can improve the Web site.
> --
> Joe Brockmeier
> Twitter: @jzb
> http://dissociatedpress.net/
>
Given our international audience, I believe that we need to err on the
side of caution here. I'd suggest following the lead of many EU
focused sites, and be explicit about any tracking cookie. We'd need
an opt-out as well.
Another option would be to simply use the web server's logs. Infra
has some details on how to get access to them. That would mean that
we wouldn't need cookies, and we'd lose a bit of data around
individual user paths... but we would get the raw page hit counts.
Re: [DISCUSS] Site Analytics?
Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 09:52:28PM +0530, Rohit Yadav wrote:
> How do other Apache projects set up their site analytics, or do they even do that (track user requests)?
>
> The idea is good but I would support the analysis and data used
> to do the same that is public; so analysis no. of issues, bugfixes,
> commits, emails exchanged over ml to get analytics of CloudStack
> as an opensource project; so I really like the *stacks analysis:
> http://www.qyjohn.net/?p=2427
The community analysis is nice, but that gives us nothing in terms of
*user* interaction or how successful (or not) the Web site is.
I'm looking for:
- how many users visit the site?
- what pages do they visit?
- how long do they stay on those pages?
- where did they come from?
(Analytics would also tell us about browser, OS, etc. - but really, I
don't think that's terribly useful in our use.)
> May be just have a simple counter of
> how many visitors visited, as a privacy and eff supporter I don't like
> the idea of tracking user agent data, I'm fine with anonymous counting,
> analysis of visitor data, no. of downloads etc. but that's just me. >
We'd need an analytics package to get even a simple counter, pretty
sure. We could set up something like a site image stored on S3 or
another site that is called every time someone hits the site, but that
wouldn't tell us much.
I'm also an EFF supporter, but we're not trying to do anything nefarious
with the data - just see where we can improve the Web site.
--
Joe Brockmeier
Twitter: @jzb
http://dissociatedpress.net/
RE: [DISCUSS] Site Analytics?
Posted by Rohit Yadav <ro...@citrix.com>.
How do other Apache projects set up their site analytics, or do they even do that (track user requests)?
The idea is good but I would support the analysis and data used to do the same that is public; so analysis no. of issues, bugfixes, commits, emails exchanged over ml to get analytics of CloudStack as an opensource project; so I really like the *stacks analysis: http://www.qyjohn.net/?p=2427
May be just have a simple counter of how many visitors visited, as a privacy and eff supporter I don't like the idea of tracking user agent data, I'm fine with anonymous counting, analysis of visitor data, no. of downloads etc. but that's just me.
Regards.
________________________________________
From: Joe Brockmeier [jzb@zonker.net]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 9:38 PM
To: CloudStack Developers
Subject: [DISCUSS] Site Analytics?
Since we transitioned cloudstack.org to the Apache Incubator site, we no
longer have any analytics running on CloudStack.org.
I wanted to ask whether we'd like to remedy that.
The first question is - would we like to set up something like Google
Analytics or Piwik to track visitors to CloudStack.org and also gather
information on what pages they visit, how long they stay, where they
came from, etc.
The second question, if the answer to the first one is "yes," is what
we'd like to use?
Google Analytics would be the easiest, because all we'd need to do is
slap in their code and grant access to interested committers/PPMC
members on Google.
The downside is that we're using Google, which some folks may be
uncomfortable with.
I've also worked with Piwik and could easily set up an instance to track
our analytics - this would have the benefit of letting the project
retain control of the data (i.e., not a third party like Google) and not
require people sign up for a Google account (if they don't already have
one).
Thoughts? I'm volunteering to set up either of those options if we're
comfortable with one or the other.
Thanks!
Joe
--
Joe Brockmeier
Twitter: @jzb
http://dissociatedpress.net/
Re: [DISCUSS] Site Analytics?
Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 12:19:11PM -0500, David Nalley wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
> > Since we transitioned cloudstack.org to the Apache Incubator site, we no
> > longer have any analytics running on CloudStack.org.
> >
> > I wanted to ask whether we'd like to remedy that.
> >
> > The first question is - would we like to set up something like Google
> > Analytics or Piwik to track visitors to CloudStack.org and also gather
> > information on what pages they visit, how long they stay, where they
> > came from, etc.
> >
> > The second question, if the answer to the first one is "yes," is what
> > we'd like to use?
>
> I think this could be very useful - especially measuring things over
> longer periods of time.
>
> So there are two questions in my mind that we need to define:
>
> First, what are we specifically seeking to track. (you said a number
> of things including: what pages folks visit, how long they stay, where
> they came from) I can think of several ways of thinking about each of
> those, and have seen a number of implementations. I am leary of some
> of the extreme examples (I've seen some tracking platforms that will
> identify specific individuals browsing, their email address, name etc
> all based on other sites, tracking every page they visited, etc.). I
> also realize this is somewhat platform specific. That said, I
> personally would like to see this fleshed out a bit more to detail the
> specific information we went to track. This is also important from a
> project perspective IMO because we want meaningful statistics that
> provide useful information about both the usefulness and ease of
> operation of our various web properties, but also a perspective into
> the relative health of the community.
So - basically, I'd be proposing we use Piwik, and can point folks to
the Piwik site or explain what it tracks - but it is not as extreme as
getting email address and such.
Piwik's features are detailed here: http://piwik.org/features/
Note that you can extend or set up custom reports with Piwik, but I'd
specific any custom reports that we'd use if they gathered any
additional data we didn't talk about initially.
> Second: If we go down this route, who gets access to it and what are
> they permitted to do with it? Do we make it all public? Do we permit
> only committers, or only PPMC members to have access? Once they have
> access, (whoever the 'they' is decided to be) what are the
> expectations we make with regards to the use of the data. Are people
> allowed to share it? with whom? People allowed to make commercial use
> of the data or tell other people about the data?
That's really up to the community. My proposal is we give access to
interested committers and PPMC members.
We *might* also choose to make some basic data public that the larger
community would find interesting, like monthly visits/overall traffic,
etc.
> Also - (this isn't a question but rather a statement) it is important
> to note that the ASF has servers (that serve the CS site) in the EU
> and thus we do have some constraints on exactly what and how we can
> collect information.
Are these constraints enumerated anywhere?
As a side note, I notice everybody always cites Europe when they talk
about data collection restraints. Doesn't anybody outside Europe care
about data collection? :-)
--
Joe Brockmeier
Twitter: @jzb
http://dissociatedpress.net/
Re: [DISCUSS] Site Analytics?
Posted by David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>.
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
> Since we transitioned cloudstack.org to the Apache Incubator site, we no
> longer have any analytics running on CloudStack.org.
>
> I wanted to ask whether we'd like to remedy that.
>
> The first question is - would we like to set up something like Google
> Analytics or Piwik to track visitors to CloudStack.org and also gather
> information on what pages they visit, how long they stay, where they
> came from, etc.
>
> The second question, if the answer to the first one is "yes," is what
> we'd like to use?
I think this could be very useful - especially measuring things over
longer periods of time.
So there are two questions in my mind that we need to define:
First, what are we specifically seeking to track. (you said a number
of things including: what pages folks visit, how long they stay, where
they came from) I can think of several ways of thinking about each of
those, and have seen a number of implementations. I am leary of some
of the extreme examples (I've seen some tracking platforms that will
identify specific individuals browsing, their email address, name etc
all based on other sites, tracking every page they visited, etc.). I
also realize this is somewhat platform specific. That said, I
personally would like to see this fleshed out a bit more to detail the
specific information we went to track. This is also important from a
project perspective IMO because we want meaningful statistics that
provide useful information about both the usefulness and ease of
operation of our various web properties, but also a perspective into
the relative health of the community.
Second: If we go down this route, who gets access to it and what are
they permitted to do with it? Do we make it all public? Do we permit
only committers, or only PPMC members to have access? Once they have
access, (whoever the 'they' is decided to be) what are the
expectations we make with regards to the use of the data. Are people
allowed to share it? with whom? People allowed to make commercial use
of the data or tell other people about the data?
Also - (this isn't a question but rather a statement) it is important
to note that the ASF has servers (that serve the CS site) in the EU
and thus we do have some constraints on exactly what and how we can
collect information.
--David
Re: [DISCUSS] Site Analytics?
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
Firstly, I'd say the PPMC members should really be subscribed to the
marketing list. But that's just my opinion. I don't see how you can do
project oversight if you're not actually overseeing the lists. RoyF would
disagree with me probably. He doesn't even subscribe to user@httpd. So
whatever.
I don't think you need to get lazy consensus twice. Though, this is one of
the problems with splitting the lists up, of course. I think as this is a
website/marketing change, it probably seems justified to get consensus on
the marketing list, and announce to the dev list. YMMV.
On 13 March 2013 13:26, Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com> wrote:
> On Mar 13, 2013, at 9:22 AM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013, at 08:04 AM, Chip Childers wrote:
> >> On Mar 13, 2013, at 8:46 AM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2012, at 02:13 PM, John Kinsella wrote:
> >>>> Did we ever get this setup?
> >>>
> >>> Sorry - no, I dropped this. Picking back up now. I'm going to send a
> >>> firm proposal to the list and if we can get consensus I'll start
> getting
> >>> it done. If at all humanly possible, I'd like to have analytics in
> place
> >>> before the 4.1.0 launch.
> >>>
> >>> One question I have - is -dev still the appropriate place to discuss
> >>> this, or would -marketing be sufficient?
> >>>
> >>> On one hand, I suspect many folks on -dev are not that interested in
> our
> >>> website analytics. On the other, I'm concerned about moving a
> >>> conversation that touches on privacy, etc. to a list that many
> >>> committers and PPMC members aren't watching closely. Thoughts?
> >>
> >> Marketing seems good to me, except that I'd appreciate if it was
> >> brought back to the dev list when the plan is baked.
> >
> > Happy to report back to -dev, but I'm curious whether this would imply
> > giving the -dev list 72 hours to digest/discuss any plans made on the
> > -marketing list?
>
> Probably, but I'd say that whatever seems like The Right Thing (tm) is
> the way to go.. ;)
>
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > jzb
> > --
> > Joe Brockmeier
> > jzb@zonker.net
> > Twitter: @jzb
> > http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
> >
>
--
NS
Re: [DISCUSS] Site Analytics?
Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com>.
On Mar 13, 2013, at 9:22 AM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013, at 08:04 AM, Chip Childers wrote:
>> On Mar 13, 2013, at 8:46 AM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2012, at 02:13 PM, John Kinsella wrote:
>>>> Did we ever get this setup?
>>>
>>> Sorry - no, I dropped this. Picking back up now. I'm going to send a
>>> firm proposal to the list and if we can get consensus I'll start getting
>>> it done. If at all humanly possible, I'd like to have analytics in place
>>> before the 4.1.0 launch.
>>>
>>> One question I have - is -dev still the appropriate place to discuss
>>> this, or would -marketing be sufficient?
>>>
>>> On one hand, I suspect many folks on -dev are not that interested in our
>>> website analytics. On the other, I'm concerned about moving a
>>> conversation that touches on privacy, etc. to a list that many
>>> committers and PPMC members aren't watching closely. Thoughts?
>>
>> Marketing seems good to me, except that I'd appreciate if it was
>> brought back to the dev list when the plan is baked.
>
> Happy to report back to -dev, but I'm curious whether this would imply
> giving the -dev list 72 hours to digest/discuss any plans made on the
> -marketing list?
Probably, but I'd say that whatever seems like The Right Thing (tm) is
the way to go.. ;)
>
> Best,
>
> jzb
> --
> Joe Brockmeier
> jzb@zonker.net
> Twitter: @jzb
> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Site Analytics?
Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013, at 08:04 AM, Chip Childers wrote:
> On Mar 13, 2013, at 8:46 AM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Dec 26, 2012, at 02:13 PM, John Kinsella wrote:
> >> Did we ever get this setup?
> >
> > Sorry - no, I dropped this. Picking back up now. I'm going to send a
> > firm proposal to the list and if we can get consensus I'll start getting
> > it done. If at all humanly possible, I'd like to have analytics in place
> > before the 4.1.0 launch.
> >
> > One question I have - is -dev still the appropriate place to discuss
> > this, or would -marketing be sufficient?
> >
> > On one hand, I suspect many folks on -dev are not that interested in our
> > website analytics. On the other, I'm concerned about moving a
> > conversation that touches on privacy, etc. to a list that many
> > committers and PPMC members aren't watching closely. Thoughts?
>
> Marketing seems good to me, except that I'd appreciate if it was
> brought back to the dev list when the plan is baked.
Happy to report back to -dev, but I'm curious whether this would imply
giving the -dev list 72 hours to digest/discuss any plans made on the
-marketing list?
Best,
jzb
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Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
Re: [DISCUSS] Site Analytics?
Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@sungard.com>.
On Mar 13, 2013, at 8:46 AM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 26, 2012, at 02:13 PM, John Kinsella wrote:
>> Did we ever get this setup?
>
> Sorry - no, I dropped this. Picking back up now. I'm going to send a
> firm proposal to the list and if we can get consensus I'll start getting
> it done. If at all humanly possible, I'd like to have analytics in place
> before the 4.1.0 launch.
>
> One question I have - is -dev still the appropriate place to discuss
> this, or would -marketing be sufficient?
>
> On one hand, I suspect many folks on -dev are not that interested in our
> website analytics. On the other, I'm concerned about moving a
> conversation that touches on privacy, etc. to a list that many
> committers and PPMC members aren't watching closely. Thoughts?
Marketing seems good to me, except that I'd appreciate if it was
brought back to the dev list when the plan is baked.
>
> Best,
>
> jzb
> --
> Joe Brockmeier
> jzb@zonker.net
> Twitter: @jzb
> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Site Analytics?
Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012, at 02:13 PM, John Kinsella wrote:
> Did we ever get this setup?
Sorry - no, I dropped this. Picking back up now. I'm going to send a
firm proposal to the list and if we can get consensus I'll start getting
it done. If at all humanly possible, I'd like to have analytics in place
before the 4.1.0 launch.
One question I have - is -dev still the appropriate place to discuss
this, or would -marketing be sufficient?
On one hand, I suspect many folks on -dev are not that interested in our
website analytics. On the other, I'm concerned about moving a
conversation that touches on privacy, etc. to a list that many
committers and PPMC members aren't watching closely. Thoughts?
Best,
jzb
--
Joe Brockmeier
jzb@zonker.net
Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
Re: [DISCUSS] Site Analytics?
Posted by John Kinsella <jl...@stratosec.co>.
Did we ever get this setup?
On Nov 9, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
> So - of *course* Piwik already has this well-documented.
>
> Here's their info on privacy and such:
>
> http://piwik.org/privacy/
>
> So - if we went with Piwik, we'd be good on the data privacy front.
>
> --
> Joe Brockmeier
> Twitter: @jzb
> http://dissociatedpress.net/
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Site Analytics?
Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
So - of *course* Piwik already has this well-documented.
Here's their info on privacy and such:
http://piwik.org/privacy/
So - if we went with Piwik, we'd be good on the data privacy front.
--
Joe Brockmeier
Twitter: @jzb
http://dissociatedpress.net/