ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>]

Hi All

As mentioned the applications for the Google Season of Docs opened today and I'm working my way through it on behalf of the ASF. 

If accepted, we will be allocated either one or two techical writers. Google will also pay the ASF a stipend of $500 per technical writer mentored (which I hope can go directly to fundraising :-)

Each project that wants to participate must provide two mentors for each documentation project.  

As part of the application process there are a few things that we need to setup.

1. Season of Docs Page and List of Project Ideas
We need to create a public webpage about Season of Docs that contains the list of project ideas for documentation. I have created a page on the ComDev wiki https://s.apache.org/w4CH  with a table for projects to record their ideas.

2. Alternative administrator.
I’ve set myself up as the primary admin and Maxim as the alternative admin (Maxim, I need to confirm your contact email and you will also need to register as the alternative admin and I will email you the link offline)

3. Mentors
All mentors from the projects interested in participating must register individually at the following link : https://forms.gle/a1x26WQGzURLerv66.

4. Application Form: Documentation / Technnial Writer Collaboration
There is a section to fill in about experience with documentation and any previous collaboration with technical writers. I know a few projects have used various tools for documentation - but not sure about any technical writing collaboration (so if you know of any then please let me know)

5. Application Form: GSoC
There is a section to complete at our participation in GSoC.I think I have the details from our application this year so can follow up with Maxim or Uli about it

This is all I have at the moment and we have until the 23rd April 2019 to finalise all the application details. Ideally I want to have it done well before then :-)

Please pass on this information within your various projects and as with GSoC - I'll see how we can get this information out to all our project mailing lists.

Thanks
Sharan



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Fwd: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Trevor Grant <tr...@gmail.com>]

So we need one more mentor- and there are some other paperworks to fill out.

Any takers?



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Hi All

As mentioned the applications for the Google Season of Docs opened today
and I'm working my way through it on behalf of the ASF.

If accepted, we will be allocated either one or two techical writers.
Google will also pay the ASF a stipend of $500 per technical writer
mentored (which I hope can go directly to fundraising :-)

Each project that wants to participate must provide two mentors for each
documentation project.

As part of the application process there are a few things that we need to
setup.

1. Season of Docs Page and List of Project Ideas
We need to create a public webpage about Season of Docs that contains the
list of project ideas for documentation. I have created a page on the
ComDev wiki https://s.apache.org/w4CH  with a table for projects to record
their ideas.

2. Alternative administrator.
I’ve set myself up as the primary admin and Maxim as the alternative admin
(Maxim, I need to confirm your contact email and you will also need to
register as the alternative admin and I will email you the link offline)

3. Mentors
All mentors from the projects interested in participating must register
individually at the following link : https://forms.gle/a1x26WQGzURLerv66.

4. Application Form: Documentation / Technnial Writer Collaboration
There is a section to fill in about experience with documentation and any
previous collaboration with technical writers. I know a few projects have
used various tools for documentation - but not sure about any technical
writing collaboration (so if you know of any then please let me know)

5. Application Form: GSoC
There is a section to complete at our participation in GSoC.I think I have
the details from our application this year so can follow up with Maxim or
Uli about it

This is all I have at the moment and we have until the 23rd April 2019 to
finalise all the application details. Ideally I want to have it done well
before then :-)

Please pass on this information within your various projects and as with
GSoC - I'll see how we can get this information out to all our project
mailing lists.

Thanks
Sharan



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Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>]

Thanks Dinesh - that's pretty clear then.

Thanks
Sharan

On 2019/04/03 15:24:06, Dinesh Joshi <di...@yahoo.com.INVALID> wrote: 
> I heard back. Here’s the exact response -
> 
> “I believe the ASF has already applied. However, we are not setup to handle multiple applications through an umbrella organization, so yes, you may want to have Apache Cassandra apply separately.”
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dinesh
> 
> > On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:39 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > 
> > That's great Dinesh. 
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Sharan
> > 
> >> On 2019/04/03 05:35:25, Dinesh Joshi <di...@yahoo.com.INVALID> wrote: 
> >> I have reached out to them seeking clarification. Will let you all know when I hear back.
> >> 
> >> Dinesh
> >> 
> >>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:33 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi Aizhamal
> >>> 
> >>> The rules are that a maximum of 2 technical writers will be allocated per organisation - and we are asking for the maximum. This is a Google constraint not ours. And even though we have asked for 2, if accepted there is also the possibility that we get allocated only 1.
> >>> 
> >>> My thought is that unlike GSoC where there are lots of students wanting to apply and participate, there is only a limited number of technical writers available so to ensure accepted organisations get at least one writer - it is being limited.
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Sharan
> >>> 
> >>>> On 2019/04/02 21:57:20, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <ai...@google.com.INVALID> wrote: 
> >>>> Hi Sharan,
> >>>> 
> >>>> We plan to prepare ideas list for at least 2 Apache projects, in particular
> >>>> for Airflow, Beam and possibly Spark. I am sure there are other projects
> >>>> that would like to participate, therefore I’m wondering whether 2 tech
> >>>> writers will be enough? Can we ask for more?
> >>>> 
> >>>> I’m happy to chat further to figure out what’s the best course of action.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Aizhamal
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 14:03 Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Hi All
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> As mentioned the applications for the Google Season of Docs opened today
> >>>>> and I'm working my way through it on behalf of the ASF.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> If accepted, we will be allocated either one or two techical writers.
> >>>>> Google will also pay the ASF a stipend of $500 per technical writer
> >>>>> mentored (which I hope can go directly to fundraising :-)
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Each project that wants to participate must provide two mentors for each
> >>>>> documentation project.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> As part of the application process there are a few things that we need to
> >>>>> setup.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 1. Season of Docs Page and List of Project Ideas
> >>>>> We need to create a public webpage about Season of Docs that contains the
> >>>>> list of project ideas for documentation. I have created a page on the
> >>>>> ComDev wiki https://s.apache.org/w4CH  with a table for projects to
> >>>>> record their ideas.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 2. Alternative administrator.
> >>>>> I’ve set myself up as the primary admin and Maxim as the alternative admin
> >>>>> (Maxim, I need to confirm your contact email and you will also need to
> >>>>> register as the alternative admin and I will email you the link offline)
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 3. Mentors
> >>>>> All mentors from the projects interested in participating must register
> >>>>> individually at the following link : https://forms.gle/a1x26WQGzURLerv66.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 4. Application Form: Documentation / Technnial Writer Collaboration
> >>>>> There is a section to fill in about experience with documentation and any
> >>>>> previous collaboration with technical writers. I know a few projects have
> >>>>> used various tools for documentation - but not sure about any technical
> >>>>> writing collaboration (so if you know of any then please let me know)
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 5. Application Form: GSoC
> >>>>> There is a section to complete at our participation in GSoC.I think I have
> >>>>> the details from our application this year so can follow up with Maxim or
> >>>>> Uli about it
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> This is all I have at the moment and we have until the 23rd April 2019 to
> >>>>> finalise all the application details. Ideally I want to have it done well
> >>>>> before then :-)
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Please pass on this information within your various projects and as with
> >>>>> GSoC - I'll see how we can get this information out to all our project
> >>>>> mailing lists.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>> Sharan
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
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> >>>>> 
> >>>>> --
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> >>>> 
> >>>> Open Source Program Manager
> >>>> 
> >>>> 646-355-9740 Mobile
> >>>> 
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Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Sharan F <sh...@apache.org>]

Hi Maxim

Done via my phone. Also made you wiki admin :-)

Thanks
Sharan


On Wed, 10 Apr 2019, 16:47 Maxim Solodovnik, <so...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> sorry for keeping silence has some personal todo list :)
> I have checked "Previous" season of docs page and got this tip:
> "Page is deleted. A space admin
> <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/spaces/viewspacesummary.action?key=COMDEV
> >
> may
> be able to restore it from the trash if you need it back."
>
> Can someone from admin to restore it please?
>
> I would better re-use it if possible :))
>
> On Sat, 6 Apr 2019 at 02:25, Sharan F <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi All
> >
> > It sounds like people would like us to add the ASF application back in,
> so
> > as long as we have some documentation project ideas (and I have seen a
> few
> > already :-) then we can do it.
> >
> > Unfortunately about 20 minutes ago my laptop suddenly died so I only have
> > my phone which makes it a bit more  difficult to set up things like the
> > wiki page for the application and ideas so if someone else can do that it
> > would be great.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sharan
> >
> > On Thu, 4 Apr 2019, 18:22 Maxim Solodovnik, <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > What I'm trying to say:
> > >
> > > If let's say Apache Wicket will give one of it's best idea+ 2 mentors
> > > to "the ASF" project
> > > It will not able to have same idea as "separate" project
> > >
> > > Sine we have Apache INFRA and some Incubator projects willing to
> > > participate as "the ASF" projects, let's add the ASF back :)
> > >
> > > On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 23:08, Joan Touzet <wo...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Maxim,
> > > >
> > > > > From: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
> > > > > To: dev@community.apache.org, "Joan Touzet" <wo...@apache.org>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 12:03:39 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019
> > > > >
> > > > > If we (as the ASF) will participate in GSoD
> > > > > We need to create idea list
> > > >
> > > > Yup! I agree. I am stepping back to let others drive this directly.
> > > > It needs to be specific materials, and I don't have the time to drive
> > > > this discussion right now. If others don't, then this can die
> > > > here.
> > > >
> > > > > And if some ASF project will participate as part of ASF it can be
> NOT
> > > > > selected
> > > > > So we can wisely choose our best GSoD ideas
> > > >
> > > > No, this is not what we heard back from Google. Here's the quote:
> > > >
> > > > > “I believe the ASF has already applied. However, we are not setup
> to
> > > handle multiple applications through an umbrella organization, so yes,
> > you
> > > may want to have Apache Cassandra apply separately.”
> > > >
> > > > So the ASF and ASF projects can both apply, and be considered
> > > > equally. If 5 projects want to apply, ASF would be the 6th
> > > > "project." Sure, we're limited by how many tech writers GSOD brings
> > > > in, but that's not really our problem. Having more projects should
> > > > statistically increase the chances that more ASF projects overall
> > > > get writers.
> > > >
> > > > -Joan "more tech writers!" Touzet
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > WBR
> > > Maxim aka solomax
> > >
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> >
>
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>

Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>]

Hello All,

sorry for keeping silence has some personal todo list :)
I have checked "Previous" season of docs page and got this tip:
"Page is deleted. A space admin
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/spaces/viewspacesummary.action?key=COMDEV>
may
be able to restore it from the trash if you need it back."

Can someone from admin to restore it please?

I would better re-use it if possible :))

On Sat, 6 Apr 2019 at 02:25, Sharan F <sh...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi All
>
> It sounds like people would like us to add the ASF application back in, so
> as long as we have some documentation project ideas (and I have seen a few
> already :-) then we can do it.
>
> Unfortunately about 20 minutes ago my laptop suddenly died so I only have
> my phone which makes it a bit more  difficult to set up things like the
> wiki page for the application and ideas so if someone else can do that it
> would be great.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2019, 18:22 Maxim Solodovnik, <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > What I'm trying to say:
> >
> > If let's say Apache Wicket will give one of it's best idea+ 2 mentors
> > to "the ASF" project
> > It will not able to have same idea as "separate" project
> >
> > Sine we have Apache INFRA and some Incubator projects willing to
> > participate as "the ASF" projects, let's add the ASF back :)
> >
> > On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 23:08, Joan Touzet <wo...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Maxim,
> > >
> > > > From: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
> > > > To: dev@community.apache.org, "Joan Touzet" <wo...@apache.org>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 12:03:39 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019
> > > >
> > > > If we (as the ASF) will participate in GSoD
> > > > We need to create idea list
> > >
> > > Yup! I agree. I am stepping back to let others drive this directly.
> > > It needs to be specific materials, and I don't have the time to drive
> > > this discussion right now. If others don't, then this can die
> > > here.
> > >
> > > > And if some ASF project will participate as part of ASF it can be NOT
> > > > selected
> > > > So we can wisely choose our best GSoD ideas
> > >
> > > No, this is not what we heard back from Google. Here's the quote:
> > >
> > > > “I believe the ASF has already applied. However, we are not setup to
> > handle multiple applications through an umbrella organization, so yes,
> you
> > may want to have Apache Cassandra apply separately.”
> > >
> > > So the ASF and ASF projects can both apply, and be considered
> > > equally. If 5 projects want to apply, ASF would be the 6th
> > > "project." Sure, we're limited by how many tech writers GSOD brings
> > > in, but that's not really our problem. Having more projects should
> > > statistically increase the chances that more ASF projects overall
> > > get writers.
> > >
> > > -Joan "more tech writers!" Touzet
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > WBR
> > Maxim aka solomax
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
> >
>


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Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Sharan F <sh...@apache.org>]

Hi All

It sounds like people would like us to add the ASF application back in, so
as long as we have some documentation project ideas (and I have seen a few
already :-) then we can do it.

Unfortunately about 20 minutes ago my laptop suddenly died so I only have
my phone which makes it a bit more  difficult to set up things like the
wiki page for the application and ideas so if someone else can do that it
would be great.

Thanks
Sharan

On Thu, 4 Apr 2019, 18:22 Maxim Solodovnik, <so...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What I'm trying to say:
>
> If let's say Apache Wicket will give one of it's best idea+ 2 mentors
> to "the ASF" project
> It will not able to have same idea as "separate" project
>
> Sine we have Apache INFRA and some Incubator projects willing to
> participate as "the ASF" projects, let's add the ASF back :)
>
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 23:08, Joan Touzet <wo...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Maxim,
> >
> > > From: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
> > > To: dev@community.apache.org, "Joan Touzet" <wo...@apache.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 12:03:39 PM
> > > Subject: Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019
> > >
> > > If we (as the ASF) will participate in GSoD
> > > We need to create idea list
> >
> > Yup! I agree. I am stepping back to let others drive this directly.
> > It needs to be specific materials, and I don't have the time to drive
> > this discussion right now. If others don't, then this can die
> > here.
> >
> > > And if some ASF project will participate as part of ASF it can be NOT
> > > selected
> > > So we can wisely choose our best GSoD ideas
> >
> > No, this is not what we heard back from Google. Here's the quote:
> >
> > > “I believe the ASF has already applied. However, we are not setup to
> handle multiple applications through an umbrella organization, so yes, you
> may want to have Apache Cassandra apply separately.”
> >
> > So the ASF and ASF projects can both apply, and be considered
> > equally. If 5 projects want to apply, ASF would be the 6th
> > "project." Sure, we're limited by how many tech writers GSOD brings
> > in, but that's not really our problem. Having more projects should
> > statistically increase the chances that more ASF projects overall
> > get writers.
> >
> > -Joan "more tech writers!" Touzet
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
> >
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
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Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>]

What I'm trying to say:

If let's say Apache Wicket will give one of it's best idea+ 2 mentors
to "the ASF" project
It will not able to have same idea as "separate" project

Sine we have Apache INFRA and some Incubator projects willing to
participate as "the ASF" projects, let's add the ASF back :)

On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 23:08, Joan Touzet <wo...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Maxim,
>
> > From: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
> > To: dev@community.apache.org, "Joan Touzet" <wo...@apache.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 12:03:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019
> >
> > If we (as the ASF) will participate in GSoD
> > We need to create idea list
>
> Yup! I agree. I am stepping back to let others drive this directly.
> It needs to be specific materials, and I don't have the time to drive
> this discussion right now. If others don't, then this can die
> here.
>
> > And if some ASF project will participate as part of ASF it can be NOT
> > selected
> > So we can wisely choose our best GSoD ideas
>
> No, this is not what we heard back from Google. Here's the quote:
>
> > “I believe the ASF has already applied. However, we are not setup to handle multiple applications through an umbrella organization, so yes, you may want to have Apache Cassandra apply separately.”
>
> So the ASF and ASF projects can both apply, and be considered
> equally. If 5 projects want to apply, ASF would be the 6th
> "project." Sure, we're limited by how many tech writers GSOD brings
> in, but that's not really our problem. Having more projects should
> statistically increase the chances that more ASF projects overall
> get writers.
>
> -Joan "more tech writers!" Touzet
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>


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Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Joan Touzet <wo...@apache.org>]

Hi Maxim,

> From: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
> To: dev@community.apache.org, "Joan Touzet" <wo...@apache.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 12:03:39 PM
> Subject: Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019
> 
> If we (as the ASF) will participate in GSoD
> We need to create idea list

Yup! I agree. I am stepping back to let others drive this directly.
It needs to be specific materials, and I don't have the time to drive
this discussion right now. If others don't, then this can die
here.

> And if some ASF project will participate as part of ASF it can be NOT
> selected
> So we can wisely choose our best GSoD ideas

No, this is not what we heard back from Google. Here's the quote:

> “I believe the ASF has already applied. However, we are not setup to handle multiple applications through an umbrella organization, so yes, you may want to have Apache Cassandra apply separately.”

So the ASF and ASF projects can both apply, and be considered
equally. If 5 projects want to apply, ASF would be the 6th 
"project." Sure, we're limited by how many tech writers GSOD brings
in, but that's not really our problem. Having more projects should
statistically increase the chances that more ASF projects overall
get writers.

-Joan "more tech writers!" Touzet

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Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>]

If we (as the ASF) will participate in GSoD
We need to create idea list

According to my GSoC experience this should be
0) task for tech writer (I believe "meritocracy" angle will NOT fit here)
1) something very specific, i.e. NOT "things that the Foundation
writes" and NOT "bunch of Infra writing"
2) it should be something "measurable" i.e. tech writer should be able
to make plan of the whole summer work before actual work will be
started

And if some ASF project will participate as part of ASF it can be NOT selected
So we can wisely choose our best GSoD ideas

On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 22:53, Joan Touzet <wo...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > From: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
> > To: dev@community.apache.org
> > Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 11:20:55 AM
> > Subject: Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019
> >
> > Hello Adina,
> >
> > This make sense
> >
> > But these 1 or 2 tech writers will select from project ideas
> > They can't just write documentation for the whole ASF/Incubator
> >
> > I still can act as backup admin for GSoD :)
>
> Hi Maxim,
>
> On the contrary, what Gris, Betrand and I are saying is that
> the Incubator and the overarching ASF have a lot of assets that
> need redesign and rework. This isn't about our public-facing
> website assets, but for things that the Foundation writes and
> maintains for the benefit of all projects. The Incubator is
> one. Gris brings up the "meritocracy" angle, that's another.
> There's a bunch of Infra writing that could do with improvement,
> too.
>
> The thing we need to be careful about here is that these are
> *tech* writers, so we need to bring proposals that are more
> technically oriented. Some of the pending work may not fit
> into that area as well, though I don't know what the over-arching
> goals of GSOD are.
>
> -Joan "writing is fundamental" Touzet
>
>
> > On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 20:50, Adina Crainiceanu <ad...@usna.edu>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Can we discuss whether ASF should apply as organization a little
> > > more? The
> > > answer Dinesh got did not seem to preclude ASF and individual
> > > Apache
> > > projects all applying as separate organizations. This year, when
> > > GSOD is
> > > new, each organization gets at most 2 spots. In future years, the
> > > number of
> > > spots might depend on the number of projects proposed by an
> > > organization
> > > and PAST SUCCESS in the program. I believe that is the case for
> > > GSOC, where
> > > new organizations get at most  1-2 spots, but "veteran"
> > > organizations get
> > > more spots. If ASF does not apply this year, but the program
> > > expands and
> > > ASF would like to apply in future years, ASF will likely be
> > > considered a
> > > "new" organization whenever it applies first as ASF and will likely
> > > get
> > > only a few spots the first time. So it would make sense to apply
> > > this year.
> > >
> > > In Apache Rya(incubating) we are interested to propose some work
> > > under the
> > > ASF application and I'm happy to help with the application.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Adina
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 6:02 AM Bertrand Delacretaz
> > > <bd...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 10:38 PM Griselda Cuevas
> > > > <gr...@google.com.invalid>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > ...If I'm not mistaken, this could fall under what Joan,
> > > > > Bertrand and
> > > > Rich
> > > > > were already doing, so perhaps they could help as mentors? ...
> > > >
> > > > I'm happy to help as a mentor, especially as far as the Incubator
> > > > is
> > > > concerned - I've been working on
> > > > http://incubator.apache.org/cookbook/
> > > > recently and getting help on that and on a general simplification
> > > > and
> > > > cleanup of the Incubator website would be fantastic.
> > > >
> > > > Gris, shall we apply for the Incubator as one specific topic or
> > > > do you
> > > > want to make a more general application?
> > > >
> > > > -Bertrand
> > > >
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Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Joan Touzet <wo...@apache.org>]

> From: "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
> To: dev@community.apache.org
> Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2019 11:20:55 AM
> Subject: Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019
> 
> Hello Adina,
> 
> This make sense
> 
> But these 1 or 2 tech writers will select from project ideas
> They can't just write documentation for the whole ASF/Incubator
> 
> I still can act as backup admin for GSoD :)

Hi Maxim,

On the contrary, what Gris, Betrand and I are saying is that 
the Incubator and the overarching ASF have a lot of assets that
need redesign and rework. This isn't about our public-facing
website assets, but for things that the Foundation writes and
maintains for the benefit of all projects. The Incubator is
one. Gris brings up the "meritocracy" angle, that's another.
There's a bunch of Infra writing that could do with improvement,
too.

The thing we need to be careful about here is that these are
*tech* writers, so we need to bring proposals that are more
technically oriented. Some of the pending work may not fit
into that area as well, though I don't know what the over-arching
goals of GSOD are.

-Joan "writing is fundamental" Touzet


> On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 20:50, Adina Crainiceanu <ad...@usna.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Can we discuss whether ASF should apply as organization a little
> > more? The
> > answer Dinesh got did not seem to preclude ASF and individual
> > Apache
> > projects all applying as separate organizations. This year, when
> > GSOD is
> > new, each organization gets at most 2 spots. In future years, the
> > number of
> > spots might depend on the number of projects proposed by an
> > organization
> > and PAST SUCCESS in the program. I believe that is the case for
> > GSOC, where
> > new organizations get at most  1-2 spots, but "veteran"
> > organizations get
> > more spots. If ASF does not apply this year, but the program
> > expands and
> > ASF would like to apply in future years, ASF will likely be
> > considered a
> > "new" organization whenever it applies first as ASF and will likely
> > get
> > only a few spots the first time. So it would make sense to apply
> > this year.
> >
> > In Apache Rya(incubating) we are interested to propose some work
> > under the
> > ASF application and I'm happy to help with the application.
> >
> > Best,
> > Adina
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 6:02 AM Bertrand Delacretaz
> > <bd...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 10:38 PM Griselda Cuevas
> > > <gr...@google.com.invalid>
> > > wrote:
> > > > ...If I'm not mistaken, this could fall under what Joan,
> > > > Bertrand and
> > > Rich
> > > > were already doing, so perhaps they could help as mentors? ...
> > >
> > > I'm happy to help as a mentor, especially as far as the Incubator
> > > is
> > > concerned - I've been working on
> > > http://incubator.apache.org/cookbook/
> > > recently and getting help on that and on a general simplification
> > > and
> > > cleanup of the Incubator website would be fantastic.
> > >
> > > Gris, shall we apply for the Incubator as one specific topic or
> > > do you
> > > want to make a more general application?
> > >
> > > -Bertrand
> > >
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> > >
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> 
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Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>]

Hello Adina,

This make sense

But these 1 or 2 tech writers will select from project ideas
They can't just write documentation for the whole ASF/Incubator

I still can act as backup admin for GSoD :)

On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 20:50, Adina Crainiceanu <ad...@usna.edu> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Can we discuss whether ASF should apply as organization a little more? The
> answer Dinesh got did not seem to preclude ASF and individual Apache
> projects all applying as separate organizations. This year, when GSOD is
> new, each organization gets at most 2 spots. In future years, the number of
> spots might depend on the number of projects proposed by an organization
> and PAST SUCCESS in the program. I believe that is the case for GSOC, where
> new organizations get at most  1-2 spots, but "veteran" organizations get
> more spots. If ASF does not apply this year, but the program expands and
> ASF would like to apply in future years, ASF will likely be considered a
> "new" organization whenever it applies first as ASF and will likely get
> only a few spots the first time. So it would make sense to apply this year.
>
> In Apache Rya(incubating) we are interested to propose some work under the
> ASF application and I'm happy to help with the application.
>
> Best,
> Adina
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 6:02 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 10:38 PM Griselda Cuevas <gr...@google.com.invalid>
> > wrote:
> > > ...If I'm not mistaken, this could fall under what Joan, Bertrand and
> > Rich
> > > were already doing, so perhaps they could help as mentors? ...
> >
> > I'm happy to help as a mentor, especially as far as the Incubator is
> > concerned - I've been working on http://incubator.apache.org/cookbook/
> > recently and getting help on that and on a general simplification and
> > cleanup of the Incubator website would be fantastic.
> >
> > Gris, shall we apply for the Incubator as one specific topic or do you
> > want to make a more general application?
> >
> > -Bertrand
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
> >
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Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Adina Crainiceanu <ad...@usna.edu>]

Hi,

Can we discuss whether ASF should apply as organization a little more? The
answer Dinesh got did not seem to preclude ASF and individual Apache
projects all applying as separate organizations. This year, when GSOD is
new, each organization gets at most 2 spots. In future years, the number of
spots might depend on the number of projects proposed by an organization
and PAST SUCCESS in the program. I believe that is the case for GSOC, where
new organizations get at most  1-2 spots, but "veteran" organizations get
more spots. If ASF does not apply this year, but the program expands and
ASF would like to apply in future years, ASF will likely be considered a
"new" organization whenever it applies first as ASF and will likely get
only a few spots the first time. So it would make sense to apply this year.

In Apache Rya(incubating) we are interested to propose some work under the
ASF application and I'm happy to help with the application.

Best,
Adina


On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 6:02 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 10:38 PM Griselda Cuevas <gr...@google.com.invalid>
> wrote:
> > ...If I'm not mistaken, this could fall under what Joan, Bertrand and
> Rich
> > were already doing, so perhaps they could help as mentors? ...
>
> I'm happy to help as a mentor, especially as far as the Incubator is
> concerned - I've been working on http://incubator.apache.org/cookbook/
> recently and getting help on that and on a general simplification and
> cleanup of the Incubator website would be fantastic.
>
> Gris, shall we apply for the Incubator as one specific topic or do you
> want to make a more general application?
>
> -Bertrand
>
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Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Griselda Cuevas <gr...@google.com.INVALID>]

On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 03:02, Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 10:38 PM Griselda Cuevas <gr...@google.com.invalid>
> wrote:
> > ...If I'm not mistaken, this could fall under what Joan, Bertrand and
> Rich
> > were already doing, so perhaps they could help as mentors? ...
>
> I'm happy to help as a mentor, especially as far as the Incubator is
> concerned - I've been working on http://incubator.apache.org/cookbook/
> recently and getting help on that and on a general simplification and
> cleanup of the Incubator website would be fantastic.
>
> Gris, shall we apply for the Incubator as one specific topic or do you
> want to make a more general application?
>

Hi Bertrand - I think the application should be more general as it was
discussed in more recent emails. I'd love to contribute ideas and suggest
topics, however, I can't be too involved in the actual program.

 I want to commit to help the D&I efforts for the Foundation, and I worry
about spreading myself too thin. It seems that Maxim et al will continue
the application, so please add the following suggestions to it if you think
appropiate:

1) Optimization & refresh of "The Apache Way" landing page (making sure is
up to date)
2) Optimization & refresh of Community>>"Get Started" & "Apache Newcomer
FAQs"
3) Incubator's content that speaks to community health and growth (I have
never checked this out so I don't know the current status & gaps)

I consider this content areas critical because folks who might be
considering contributing will land here, and as our gates, the information
these pages hold should be effective, updates, etc.


> -Bertrand
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Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>]

Hi,

On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 10:38 PM Griselda Cuevas <gr...@google.com.invalid> wrote:
> ...If I'm not mistaken, this could fall under what Joan, Bertrand and Rich
> were already doing, so perhaps they could help as mentors? ...

I'm happy to help as a mentor, especially as far as the Incubator is
concerned - I've been working on http://incubator.apache.org/cookbook/
recently and getting help on that and on a general simplification and
cleanup of the Incubator website would be fantastic.

Gris, shall we apply for the Incubator as one specific topic or do you
want to make a more general application?

-Bertrand

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Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Griselda Cuevas <gr...@google.com.INVALID>]

Ah, ok - thanks!

On Wed, Apr 3, 2019, 1:43 PM Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Gris
>
> I've already sent the email to withdraw the ASF application that I
> created. If you think there is specific work that could be useful then
> there is no reason that another application could be made before the
> deadline.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>
> On 2019/04/03 20:37:51, Griselda Cuevas <gr...@google.com.INVALID> wrote:
> > Hi Sharan & Joan,
> >
> > I think we could have the tech writer help with overall content of the
> ASF,
> > specially as we talk about how to best represent "meritocracy". *I can
> help
> > scope the project.* My initial thoughts are that the concrete internship
> > could be an ASF-wide content refresh with the focus of better represent
> > meritocracy, diversity and inclusion.
> >
> > If I'm not mistaken, this could fall under what Joan, Bertrand and Rich
> > were already doing, so perhaps they could help as mentors? (not findings
> > volunteers, just brainstorming)
> >
> > G
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 13:15, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Joan
> > >
> > > We would need to specify the exact piece of work that the tech writer
> will
> > > work on. So it's not a generic application. The tech writer will look
> at
> > > the prospective work and choose what they think they would like to do.
> So I
> > > think at this stage it makes sense to let the projects apply as they
> have
> > > specific work that they want done..
> > >
> > > The ASF application would only be an umbrella for the specific project
> > > work and I think trying to implement a hybrid solution would only cause
> > > confusion.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Sharan
> > >
> > > On 2019/04/03 20:02:34, Joan Touzet <wo...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > Sharan, might want to keep the ASF application if we want their help
> > > > with tech doc writing for things like the incubator, infra, etc. and
> > > > other internally-facing ASF stuff. Not sure it makes sense for those
> > > > groups to be individually reaching out on those topics.
> > > >
> > > > -Joan
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Sharan Foga" <sh...@apache.org>
> > > > > To: dev@community.apache.org
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 3:52:13 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019
> > > > >
> > > > > Agreed.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll ask them to delete the ASF application for Season of Docs and
> > > > > each Apache project can apply for themselves. I'll check the email
> > > > > thread for those projects interested and send a message to their
> dev
> > > > > list.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Sharan
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2019/04/03 15:29:59, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > In such case I see no need in ASF wide org admins ....
> > > > > > "it's every man for himself." (c)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 22:24, Dinesh Joshi
> > > > > > <di...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I heard back. Here’s the exact response -
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > “I believe the ASF has already applied. However, we are not
> setup
> > > > > > > to handle multiple applications through an umbrella
> > > > > > > organization, so yes, you may want to have Apache Cassandra
> > > > > > > apply separately.”
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dinesh
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:39 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That's great Dinesh.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > Sharan
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> On 2019/04/03 05:35:25, Dinesh Joshi
> > > > > > > >> <di...@yahoo.com.INVALID> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> I have reached out to them seeking clarification. Will let
> you
> > > > > > > >> all know when I hear back.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Dinesh
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:33 PM, Sharan Foga <
> sharan@apache.org>
> > > > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> Hi Aizhamal
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> The rules are that a maximum of 2 technical writers will be
> > > > > > > >>> allocated per organisation - and we are asking for the
> > > > > > > >>> maximum. This is a Google constraint not ours. And even
> > > > > > > >>> though we have asked for 2, if accepted there is also the
> > > > > > > >>> possibility that we get allocated only 1.
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> My thought is that unlike GSoC where there are lots of
> > > > > > > >>> students wanting to apply and participate, there is only a
> > > > > > > >>> limited number of technical writers available so to ensure
> > > > > > > >>> accepted organisations get at least one writer - it is
> being
> > > > > > > >>> limited.
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> Thanks
> > > > > > > >>> Sharan
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> On 2019/04/02 21:57:20, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
> > > > > > > >>>> <ai...@google.com.INVALID> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>> Hi Sharan,
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> We plan to prepare ideas list for at least 2 Apache
> > > > > > > >>>> projects, in particular
> > > > > > > >>>> for Airflow, Beam and possibly Spark. I am sure there are
> > > > > > > >>>> other projects
> > > > > > > >>>> that would like to participate, therefore I’m wondering
> > > > > > > >>>> whether 2 tech
> > > > > > > >>>> writers will be enough? Can we ask for more?
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> I’m happy to chat further to figure out what’s the best
> > > > > > > >>>> course of action.
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > > >>>> Aizhamal
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 14:03 Sharan Foga
> > > > > > > >>>>> <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> Hi All
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> As mentioned the applications for the Google Season of
> Docs
> > > > > > > >>>>> opened today
> > > > > > > >>>>> and I'm working my way through it on behalf of the ASF.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> If accepted, we will be allocated either one or two
> > > > > > > >>>>> techical writers.
> > > > > > > >>>>> Google will also pay the ASF a stipend of $500 per
> > > > > > > >>>>> technical writer
> > > > > > > >>>>> mentored (which I hope can go directly to fundraising :-)
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> Each project that wants to participate must provide two
> > > > > > > >>>>> mentors for each
> > > > > > > >>>>> documentation project.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> As part of the application process there are a few things
> > > > > > > >>>>> that we need to
> > > > > > > >>>>> setup.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> 1. Season of Docs Page and List of Project Ideas
> > > > > > > >>>>> We need to create a public webpage about Season of Docs
> > > > > > > >>>>> that contains the
> > > > > > > >>>>> list of project ideas for documentation. I have created a
> > > > > > > >>>>> page on the
> > > > > > > >>>>> ComDev wiki https://s.apache.org/w4CH  with a table for
> > > > > > > >>>>> projects to
> > > > > > > >>>>> record their ideas.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> 2. Alternative administrator.
> > > > > > > >>>>> I’ve set myself up as the primary admin and Maxim as the
> > > > > > > >>>>> alternative admin
> > > > > > > >>>>> (Maxim, I need to confirm your contact email and you will
> > > > > > > >>>>> also need to
> > > > > > > >>>>> register as the alternative admin and I will email you
> the
> > > > > > > >>>>> link offline)
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> 3. Mentors
> > > > > > > >>>>> All mentors from the projects interested in participating
> > > > > > > >>>>> must register
> > > > > > > >>>>> individually at the following link :
> > > > > > > >>>>> https://forms.gle/a1x26WQGzURLerv66.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> 4. Application Form: Documentation / Technnial Writer
> > > > > > > >>>>> Collaboration
> > > > > > > >>>>> There is a section to fill in about experience with
> > > > > > > >>>>> documentation and any
> > > > > > > >>>>> previous collaboration with technical writers. I know a
> few
> > > > > > > >>>>> projects have
> > > > > > > >>>>> used various tools for documentation - but not sure about
> > > > > > > >>>>> any technical
> > > > > > > >>>>> writing collaboration (so if you know of any then please
> > > > > > > >>>>> let me know)
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> 5. Application Form: GSoC
> > > > > > > >>>>> There is a section to complete at our participation in
> > > > > > > >>>>> GSoC.I think I have
> > > > > > > >>>>> the details from our application this year so can follow
> up
> > > > > > > >>>>> with Maxim or
> > > > > > > >>>>> Uli about it
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> This is all I have at the moment and we have until the
> 23rd
> > > > > > > >>>>> April 2019 to
> > > > > > > >>>>> finalise all the application details. Ideally I want to
> > > > > > > >>>>> have it done well
> > > > > > > >>>>> before then :-)
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> Please pass on this information within your various
> > > > > > > >>>>> projects and as with
> > > > > > > >>>>> GSoC - I'll see how we can get this information out to
> all
> > > > > > > >>>>> our project
> > > > > > > >>>>> mailing lists.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > > >>>>> Sharan
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
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Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>]

Hi Gris

I've already sent the email to withdraw the ASF application that I created. If you think there is specific work that could be useful then there is no reason that another application could be made before the deadline.  

Thanks
Sharan


On 2019/04/03 20:37:51, Griselda Cuevas <gr...@google.com.INVALID> wrote: 
> Hi Sharan & Joan,
> 
> I think we could have the tech writer help with overall content of the ASF,
> specially as we talk about how to best represent "meritocracy". *I can help
> scope the project.* My initial thoughts are that the concrete internship
> could be an ASF-wide content refresh with the focus of better represent
> meritocracy, diversity and inclusion.
> 
> If I'm not mistaken, this could fall under what Joan, Bertrand and Rich
> were already doing, so perhaps they could help as mentors? (not findings
> volunteers, just brainstorming)
> 
> G
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 13:15, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Joan
> >
> > We would need to specify the exact piece of work that the tech writer will
> > work on. So it's not a generic application. The tech writer will look at
> > the prospective work and choose what they think they would like to do. So I
> > think at this stage it makes sense to let the projects apply as they have
> > specific work that they want done..
> >
> > The ASF application would only be an umbrella for the specific project
> > work and I think trying to implement a hybrid solution would only cause
> > confusion.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sharan
> >
> > On 2019/04/03 20:02:34, Joan Touzet <wo...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > Sharan, might want to keep the ASF application if we want their help
> > > with tech doc writing for things like the incubator, infra, etc. and
> > > other internally-facing ASF stuff. Not sure it makes sense for those
> > > groups to be individually reaching out on those topics.
> > >
> > > -Joan
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Sharan Foga" <sh...@apache.org>
> > > > To: dev@community.apache.org
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 3:52:13 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019
> > > >
> > > > Agreed.
> > > >
> > > > I'll ask them to delete the ASF application for Season of Docs and
> > > > each Apache project can apply for themselves. I'll check the email
> > > > thread for those projects interested and send a message to their dev
> > > > list.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Sharan
> > > >
> > > > On 2019/04/03 15:29:59, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > In such case I see no need in ASF wide org admins ....
> > > > > "it's every man for himself." (c)
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 22:24, Dinesh Joshi
> > > > > <di...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I heard back. Here’s the exact response -
> > > > > >
> > > > > > “I believe the ASF has already applied. However, we are not setup
> > > > > > to handle multiple applications through an umbrella
> > > > > > organization, so yes, you may want to have Apache Cassandra
> > > > > > apply separately.”
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dinesh
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:39 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That's great Dinesh.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > Sharan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> On 2019/04/03 05:35:25, Dinesh Joshi
> > > > > > >> <di...@yahoo.com.INVALID> wrote:
> > > > > > >> I have reached out to them seeking clarification. Will let you
> > > > > > >> all know when I hear back.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Dinesh
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:33 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>
> > > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Hi Aizhamal
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> The rules are that a maximum of 2 technical writers will be
> > > > > > >>> allocated per organisation - and we are asking for the
> > > > > > >>> maximum. This is a Google constraint not ours. And even
> > > > > > >>> though we have asked for 2, if accepted there is also the
> > > > > > >>> possibility that we get allocated only 1.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> My thought is that unlike GSoC where there are lots of
> > > > > > >>> students wanting to apply and participate, there is only a
> > > > > > >>> limited number of technical writers available so to ensure
> > > > > > >>> accepted organisations get at least one writer - it is being
> > > > > > >>> limited.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Thanks
> > > > > > >>> Sharan
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>> On 2019/04/02 21:57:20, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
> > > > > > >>>> <ai...@google.com.INVALID> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>> Hi Sharan,
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> We plan to prepare ideas list for at least 2 Apache
> > > > > > >>>> projects, in particular
> > > > > > >>>> for Airflow, Beam and possibly Spark. I am sure there are
> > > > > > >>>> other projects
> > > > > > >>>> that would like to participate, therefore I’m wondering
> > > > > > >>>> whether 2 tech
> > > > > > >>>> writers will be enough? Can we ask for more?
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> I’m happy to chat further to figure out what’s the best
> > > > > > >>>> course of action.
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > >>>> Aizhamal
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 14:03 Sharan Foga
> > > > > > >>>>> <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> Hi All
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> As mentioned the applications for the Google Season of Docs
> > > > > > >>>>> opened today
> > > > > > >>>>> and I'm working my way through it on behalf of the ASF.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> If accepted, we will be allocated either one or two
> > > > > > >>>>> techical writers.
> > > > > > >>>>> Google will also pay the ASF a stipend of $500 per
> > > > > > >>>>> technical writer
> > > > > > >>>>> mentored (which I hope can go directly to fundraising :-)
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> Each project that wants to participate must provide two
> > > > > > >>>>> mentors for each
> > > > > > >>>>> documentation project.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> As part of the application process there are a few things
> > > > > > >>>>> that we need to
> > > > > > >>>>> setup.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> 1. Season of Docs Page and List of Project Ideas
> > > > > > >>>>> We need to create a public webpage about Season of Docs
> > > > > > >>>>> that contains the
> > > > > > >>>>> list of project ideas for documentation. I have created a
> > > > > > >>>>> page on the
> > > > > > >>>>> ComDev wiki https://s.apache.org/w4CH  with a table for
> > > > > > >>>>> projects to
> > > > > > >>>>> record their ideas.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> 2. Alternative administrator.
> > > > > > >>>>> I’ve set myself up as the primary admin and Maxim as the
> > > > > > >>>>> alternative admin
> > > > > > >>>>> (Maxim, I need to confirm your contact email and you will
> > > > > > >>>>> also need to
> > > > > > >>>>> register as the alternative admin and I will email you the
> > > > > > >>>>> link offline)
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> 3. Mentors
> > > > > > >>>>> All mentors from the projects interested in participating
> > > > > > >>>>> must register
> > > > > > >>>>> individually at the following link :
> > > > > > >>>>> https://forms.gle/a1x26WQGzURLerv66.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> 4. Application Form: Documentation / Technnial Writer
> > > > > > >>>>> Collaboration
> > > > > > >>>>> There is a section to fill in about experience with
> > > > > > >>>>> documentation and any
> > > > > > >>>>> previous collaboration with technical writers. I know a few
> > > > > > >>>>> projects have
> > > > > > >>>>> used various tools for documentation - but not sure about
> > > > > > >>>>> any technical
> > > > > > >>>>> writing collaboration (so if you know of any then please
> > > > > > >>>>> let me know)
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> 5. Application Form: GSoC
> > > > > > >>>>> There is a section to complete at our participation in
> > > > > > >>>>> GSoC.I think I have
> > > > > > >>>>> the details from our application this year so can follow up
> > > > > > >>>>> with Maxim or
> > > > > > >>>>> Uli about it
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> This is all I have at the moment and we have until the 23rd
> > > > > > >>>>> April 2019 to
> > > > > > >>>>> finalise all the application details. Ideally I want to
> > > > > > >>>>> have it done well
> > > > > > >>>>> before then :-)
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> Please pass on this information within your various
> > > > > > >>>>> projects and as with
> > > > > > >>>>> GSoC - I'll see how we can get this information out to all
> > > > > > >>>>> our project
> > > > > > >>>>> mailing lists.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>> Thanks
> > > > > > >>>>> Sharan
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
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> > > > > > >>>>
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> > > > > > >>>>
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Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Griselda Cuevas <gr...@google.com.INVALID>]

Hi Sharan & Joan,

I think we could have the tech writer help with overall content of the ASF,
specially as we talk about how to best represent "meritocracy". *I can help
scope the project.* My initial thoughts are that the concrete internship
could be an ASF-wide content refresh with the focus of better represent
meritocracy, diversity and inclusion.

If I'm not mistaken, this could fall under what Joan, Bertrand and Rich
were already doing, so perhaps they could help as mentors? (not findings
volunteers, just brainstorming)

G




On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 13:15, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Joan
>
> We would need to specify the exact piece of work that the tech writer will
> work on. So it's not a generic application. The tech writer will look at
> the prospective work and choose what they think they would like to do. So I
> think at this stage it makes sense to let the projects apply as they have
> specific work that they want done..
>
> The ASF application would only be an umbrella for the specific project
> work and I think trying to implement a hybrid solution would only cause
> confusion.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
> On 2019/04/03 20:02:34, Joan Touzet <wo...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Sharan, might want to keep the ASF application if we want their help
> > with tech doc writing for things like the incubator, infra, etc. and
> > other internally-facing ASF stuff. Not sure it makes sense for those
> > groups to be individually reaching out on those topics.
> >
> > -Joan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Sharan Foga" <sh...@apache.org>
> > > To: dev@community.apache.org
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 3:52:13 PM
> > > Subject: Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019
> > >
> > > Agreed.
> > >
> > > I'll ask them to delete the ASF application for Season of Docs and
> > > each Apache project can apply for themselves. I'll check the email
> > > thread for those projects interested and send a message to their dev
> > > list.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Sharan
> > >
> > > On 2019/04/03 15:29:59, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > In such case I see no need in ASF wide org admins ....
> > > > "it's every man for himself." (c)
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 22:24, Dinesh Joshi
> > > > <di...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I heard back. Here’s the exact response -
> > > > >
> > > > > “I believe the ASF has already applied. However, we are not setup
> > > > > to handle multiple applications through an umbrella
> > > > > organization, so yes, you may want to have Apache Cassandra
> > > > > apply separately.”
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Dinesh
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:39 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's great Dinesh.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Sharan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> On 2019/04/03 05:35:25, Dinesh Joshi
> > > > > >> <di...@yahoo.com.INVALID> wrote:
> > > > > >> I have reached out to them seeking clarification. Will let you
> > > > > >> all know when I hear back.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Dinesh
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:33 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>
> > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Hi Aizhamal
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> The rules are that a maximum of 2 technical writers will be
> > > > > >>> allocated per organisation - and we are asking for the
> > > > > >>> maximum. This is a Google constraint not ours. And even
> > > > > >>> though we have asked for 2, if accepted there is also the
> > > > > >>> possibility that we get allocated only 1.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> My thought is that unlike GSoC where there are lots of
> > > > > >>> students wanting to apply and participate, there is only a
> > > > > >>> limited number of technical writers available so to ensure
> > > > > >>> accepted organisations get at least one writer - it is being
> > > > > >>> limited.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Thanks
> > > > > >>> Sharan
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> On 2019/04/02 21:57:20, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
> > > > > >>>> <ai...@google.com.INVALID> wrote:
> > > > > >>>> Hi Sharan,
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> We plan to prepare ideas list for at least 2 Apache
> > > > > >>>> projects, in particular
> > > > > >>>> for Airflow, Beam and possibly Spark. I am sure there are
> > > > > >>>> other projects
> > > > > >>>> that would like to participate, therefore I’m wondering
> > > > > >>>> whether 2 tech
> > > > > >>>> writers will be enough? Can we ask for more?
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> I’m happy to chat further to figure out what’s the best
> > > > > >>>> course of action.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > > >>>> Aizhamal
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 14:03 Sharan Foga
> > > > > >>>>> <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Hi All
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> As mentioned the applications for the Google Season of Docs
> > > > > >>>>> opened today
> > > > > >>>>> and I'm working my way through it on behalf of the ASF.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> If accepted, we will be allocated either one or two
> > > > > >>>>> techical writers.
> > > > > >>>>> Google will also pay the ASF a stipend of $500 per
> > > > > >>>>> technical writer
> > > > > >>>>> mentored (which I hope can go directly to fundraising :-)
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Each project that wants to participate must provide two
> > > > > >>>>> mentors for each
> > > > > >>>>> documentation project.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> As part of the application process there are a few things
> > > > > >>>>> that we need to
> > > > > >>>>> setup.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> 1. Season of Docs Page and List of Project Ideas
> > > > > >>>>> We need to create a public webpage about Season of Docs
> > > > > >>>>> that contains the
> > > > > >>>>> list of project ideas for documentation. I have created a
> > > > > >>>>> page on the
> > > > > >>>>> ComDev wiki https://s.apache.org/w4CH  with a table for
> > > > > >>>>> projects to
> > > > > >>>>> record their ideas.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> 2. Alternative administrator.
> > > > > >>>>> I’ve set myself up as the primary admin and Maxim as the
> > > > > >>>>> alternative admin
> > > > > >>>>> (Maxim, I need to confirm your contact email and you will
> > > > > >>>>> also need to
> > > > > >>>>> register as the alternative admin and I will email you the
> > > > > >>>>> link offline)
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> 3. Mentors
> > > > > >>>>> All mentors from the projects interested in participating
> > > > > >>>>> must register
> > > > > >>>>> individually at the following link :
> > > > > >>>>> https://forms.gle/a1x26WQGzURLerv66.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> 4. Application Form: Documentation / Technnial Writer
> > > > > >>>>> Collaboration
> > > > > >>>>> There is a section to fill in about experience with
> > > > > >>>>> documentation and any
> > > > > >>>>> previous collaboration with technical writers. I know a few
> > > > > >>>>> projects have
> > > > > >>>>> used various tools for documentation - but not sure about
> > > > > >>>>> any technical
> > > > > >>>>> writing collaboration (so if you know of any then please
> > > > > >>>>> let me know)
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> 5. Application Form: GSoC
> > > > > >>>>> There is a section to complete at our participation in
> > > > > >>>>> GSoC.I think I have
> > > > > >>>>> the details from our application this year so can follow up
> > > > > >>>>> with Maxim or
> > > > > >>>>> Uli about it
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> This is all I have at the moment and we have until the 23rd
> > > > > >>>>> April 2019 to
> > > > > >>>>> finalise all the application details. Ideally I want to
> > > > > >>>>> have it done well
> > > > > >>>>> before then :-)
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Please pass on this information within your various
> > > > > >>>>> projects and as with
> > > > > >>>>> GSoC - I'll see how we can get this information out to all
> > > > > >>>>> our project
> > > > > >>>>> mailing lists.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Thanks
> > > > > >>>>> Sharan
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
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Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>]

Hi Joan

We would need to specify the exact piece of work that the tech writer will work on. So it's not a generic application. The tech writer will look at the prospective work and choose what they think they would like to do. So I think at this stage it makes sense to let the projects apply as they have specific work that they want done..

The ASF application would only be an umbrella for the specific project work and I think trying to implement a hybrid solution would only cause confusion. 

Thanks
Sharan

On 2019/04/03 20:02:34, Joan Touzet <wo...@apache.org> wrote: 
> Sharan, might want to keep the ASF application if we want their help
> with tech doc writing for things like the incubator, infra, etc. and
> other internally-facing ASF stuff. Not sure it makes sense for those
> groups to be individually reaching out on those topics.
> 
> -Joan
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sharan Foga" <sh...@apache.org>
> > To: dev@community.apache.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 3:52:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019
> > 
> > Agreed.
> > 
> > I'll ask them to delete the ASF application for Season of Docs and
> > each Apache project can apply for themselves. I'll check the email
> > thread for those projects interested and send a message to their dev
> > list.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Sharan
> > 
> > On 2019/04/03 15:29:59, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > In such case I see no need in ASF wide org admins ....
> > > "it's every man for himself." (c)
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 22:24, Dinesh Joshi
> > > <di...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I heard back. Here’s the exact response -
> > > >
> > > > “I believe the ASF has already applied. However, we are not setup
> > > > to handle multiple applications through an umbrella
> > > > organization, so yes, you may want to have Apache Cassandra
> > > > apply separately.”
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Dinesh
> > > >
> > > > > On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:39 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > That's great Dinesh.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Sharan
> > > > >
> > > > >> On 2019/04/03 05:35:25, Dinesh Joshi
> > > > >> <di...@yahoo.com.INVALID> wrote:
> > > > >> I have reached out to them seeking clarification. Will let you
> > > > >> all know when I hear back.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Dinesh
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:33 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>
> > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Hi Aizhamal
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> The rules are that a maximum of 2 technical writers will be
> > > > >>> allocated per organisation - and we are asking for the
> > > > >>> maximum. This is a Google constraint not ours. And even
> > > > >>> though we have asked for 2, if accepted there is also the
> > > > >>> possibility that we get allocated only 1.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> My thought is that unlike GSoC where there are lots of
> > > > >>> students wanting to apply and participate, there is only a
> > > > >>> limited number of technical writers available so to ensure
> > > > >>> accepted organisations get at least one writer - it is being
> > > > >>> limited.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Thanks
> > > > >>> Sharan
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> On 2019/04/02 21:57:20, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
> > > > >>>> <ai...@google.com.INVALID> wrote:
> > > > >>>> Hi Sharan,
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> We plan to prepare ideas list for at least 2 Apache
> > > > >>>> projects, in particular
> > > > >>>> for Airflow, Beam and possibly Spark. I am sure there are
> > > > >>>> other projects
> > > > >>>> that would like to participate, therefore I’m wondering
> > > > >>>> whether 2 tech
> > > > >>>> writers will be enough? Can we ask for more?
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> I’m happy to chat further to figure out what’s the best
> > > > >>>> course of action.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > >>>> Aizhamal
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 14:03 Sharan Foga
> > > > >>>>> <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Hi All
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> As mentioned the applications for the Google Season of Docs
> > > > >>>>> opened today
> > > > >>>>> and I'm working my way through it on behalf of the ASF.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> If accepted, we will be allocated either one or two
> > > > >>>>> techical writers.
> > > > >>>>> Google will also pay the ASF a stipend of $500 per
> > > > >>>>> technical writer
> > > > >>>>> mentored (which I hope can go directly to fundraising :-)
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Each project that wants to participate must provide two
> > > > >>>>> mentors for each
> > > > >>>>> documentation project.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> As part of the application process there are a few things
> > > > >>>>> that we need to
> > > > >>>>> setup.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> 1. Season of Docs Page and List of Project Ideas
> > > > >>>>> We need to create a public webpage about Season of Docs
> > > > >>>>> that contains the
> > > > >>>>> list of project ideas for documentation. I have created a
> > > > >>>>> page on the
> > > > >>>>> ComDev wiki https://s.apache.org/w4CH  with a table for
> > > > >>>>> projects to
> > > > >>>>> record their ideas.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> 2. Alternative administrator.
> > > > >>>>> I’ve set myself up as the primary admin and Maxim as the
> > > > >>>>> alternative admin
> > > > >>>>> (Maxim, I need to confirm your contact email and you will
> > > > >>>>> also need to
> > > > >>>>> register as the alternative admin and I will email you the
> > > > >>>>> link offline)
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> 3. Mentors
> > > > >>>>> All mentors from the projects interested in participating
> > > > >>>>> must register
> > > > >>>>> individually at the following link :
> > > > >>>>> https://forms.gle/a1x26WQGzURLerv66.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> 4. Application Form: Documentation / Technnial Writer
> > > > >>>>> Collaboration
> > > > >>>>> There is a section to fill in about experience with
> > > > >>>>> documentation and any
> > > > >>>>> previous collaboration with technical writers. I know a few
> > > > >>>>> projects have
> > > > >>>>> used various tools for documentation - but not sure about
> > > > >>>>> any technical
> > > > >>>>> writing collaboration (so if you know of any then please
> > > > >>>>> let me know)
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> 5. Application Form: GSoC
> > > > >>>>> There is a section to complete at our participation in
> > > > >>>>> GSoC.I think I have
> > > > >>>>> the details from our application this year so can follow up
> > > > >>>>> with Maxim or
> > > > >>>>> Uli about it
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> This is all I have at the moment and we have until the 23rd
> > > > >>>>> April 2019 to
> > > > >>>>> finalise all the application details. Ideally I want to
> > > > >>>>> have it done well
> > > > >>>>> before then :-)
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Please pass on this information within your various
> > > > >>>>> projects and as with
> > > > >>>>> GSoC - I'll see how we can get this information out to all
> > > > >>>>> our project
> > > > >>>>> mailing lists.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Thanks
> > > > >>>>> Sharan
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
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> > > > >>>>> dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
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> > > > >>>>> dev-help@community.apache.org
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> --
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> *Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy*
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Open Source Program Manager
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> 646-355-9740 Mobile
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> 601 North 34th Street, Seattle, WA 98103
> > > > >>>>
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> > > 
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Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Joan Touzet <wo...@apache.org>]

Sharan, might want to keep the ASF application if we want their help
with tech doc writing for things like the incubator, infra, etc. and
other internally-facing ASF stuff. Not sure it makes sense for those
groups to be individually reaching out on those topics.

-Joan

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sharan Foga" <sh...@apache.org>
> To: dev@community.apache.org
> Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 3:52:13 PM
> Subject: Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> I'll ask them to delete the ASF application for Season of Docs and
> each Apache project can apply for themselves. I'll check the email
> thread for those projects interested and send a message to their dev
> list.
> 
> Thanks
> Sharan
> 
> On 2019/04/03 15:29:59, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > In such case I see no need in ASF wide org admins ....
> > "it's every man for himself." (c)
> > 
> > On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 22:24, Dinesh Joshi
> > <di...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > I heard back. Here’s the exact response -
> > >
> > > “I believe the ASF has already applied. However, we are not setup
> > > to handle multiple applications through an umbrella
> > > organization, so yes, you may want to have Apache Cassandra
> > > apply separately.”
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Dinesh
> > >
> > > > On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:39 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That's great Dinesh.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Sharan
> > > >
> > > >> On 2019/04/03 05:35:25, Dinesh Joshi
> > > >> <di...@yahoo.com.INVALID> wrote:
> > > >> I have reached out to them seeking clarification. Will let you
> > > >> all know when I hear back.
> > > >>
> > > >> Dinesh
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:33 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Hi Aizhamal
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The rules are that a maximum of 2 technical writers will be
> > > >>> allocated per organisation - and we are asking for the
> > > >>> maximum. This is a Google constraint not ours. And even
> > > >>> though we have asked for 2, if accepted there is also the
> > > >>> possibility that we get allocated only 1.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> My thought is that unlike GSoC where there are lots of
> > > >>> students wanting to apply and participate, there is only a
> > > >>> limited number of technical writers available so to ensure
> > > >>> accepted organisations get at least one writer - it is being
> > > >>> limited.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks
> > > >>> Sharan
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> On 2019/04/02 21:57:20, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
> > > >>>> <ai...@google.com.INVALID> wrote:
> > > >>>> Hi Sharan,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> We plan to prepare ideas list for at least 2 Apache
> > > >>>> projects, in particular
> > > >>>> for Airflow, Beam and possibly Spark. I am sure there are
> > > >>>> other projects
> > > >>>> that would like to participate, therefore I’m wondering
> > > >>>> whether 2 tech
> > > >>>> writers will be enough? Can we ask for more?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I’m happy to chat further to figure out what’s the best
> > > >>>> course of action.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > >>>> Aizhamal
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 14:03 Sharan Foga
> > > >>>>> <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Hi All
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> As mentioned the applications for the Google Season of Docs
> > > >>>>> opened today
> > > >>>>> and I'm working my way through it on behalf of the ASF.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> If accepted, we will be allocated either one or two
> > > >>>>> techical writers.
> > > >>>>> Google will also pay the ASF a stipend of $500 per
> > > >>>>> technical writer
> > > >>>>> mentored (which I hope can go directly to fundraising :-)
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Each project that wants to participate must provide two
> > > >>>>> mentors for each
> > > >>>>> documentation project.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> As part of the application process there are a few things
> > > >>>>> that we need to
> > > >>>>> setup.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 1. Season of Docs Page and List of Project Ideas
> > > >>>>> We need to create a public webpage about Season of Docs
> > > >>>>> that contains the
> > > >>>>> list of project ideas for documentation. I have created a
> > > >>>>> page on the
> > > >>>>> ComDev wiki https://s.apache.org/w4CH  with a table for
> > > >>>>> projects to
> > > >>>>> record their ideas.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 2. Alternative administrator.
> > > >>>>> I’ve set myself up as the primary admin and Maxim as the
> > > >>>>> alternative admin
> > > >>>>> (Maxim, I need to confirm your contact email and you will
> > > >>>>> also need to
> > > >>>>> register as the alternative admin and I will email you the
> > > >>>>> link offline)
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 3. Mentors
> > > >>>>> All mentors from the projects interested in participating
> > > >>>>> must register
> > > >>>>> individually at the following link :
> > > >>>>> https://forms.gle/a1x26WQGzURLerv66.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 4. Application Form: Documentation / Technnial Writer
> > > >>>>> Collaboration
> > > >>>>> There is a section to fill in about experience with
> > > >>>>> documentation and any
> > > >>>>> previous collaboration with technical writers. I know a few
> > > >>>>> projects have
> > > >>>>> used various tools for documentation - but not sure about
> > > >>>>> any technical
> > > >>>>> writing collaboration (so if you know of any then please
> > > >>>>> let me know)
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> 5. Application Form: GSoC
> > > >>>>> There is a section to complete at our participation in
> > > >>>>> GSoC.I think I have
> > > >>>>> the details from our application this year so can follow up
> > > >>>>> with Maxim or
> > > >>>>> Uli about it
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> This is all I have at the moment and we have until the 23rd
> > > >>>>> April 2019 to
> > > >>>>> finalise all the application details. Ideally I want to
> > > >>>>> have it done well
> > > >>>>> before then :-)
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Please pass on this information within your various
> > > >>>>> projects and as with
> > > >>>>> GSoC - I'll see how we can get this information out to all
> > > >>>>> our project
> > > >>>>> mailing lists.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Thanks
> > > >>>>> Sharan
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > >>>>> dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
> > > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > >>>>> dev-help@community.apache.org
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> --
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> *Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy*
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Open Source Program Manager
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> 646-355-9740 Mobile
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> 601 North 34th Street, Seattle, WA 98103
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
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> > > >>> For additional commands, e-mail:
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> > Maxim aka solomax
> > 
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Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>]

Agreed.

I'll ask them to delete the ASF application for Season of Docs and each Apache project can apply for themselves. I'll check the email thread for those projects interested and send a message to their dev list.

Thanks
Sharan

On 2019/04/03 15:29:59, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> In such case I see no need in ASF wide org admins ....
> "it's every man for himself." (c)
> 
> On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 22:24, Dinesh Joshi
> <di...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > I heard back. Here’s the exact response -
> >
> > “I believe the ASF has already applied. However, we are not setup to handle multiple applications through an umbrella organization, so yes, you may want to have Apache Cassandra apply separately.”
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dinesh
> >
> > > On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:39 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > That's great Dinesh.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Sharan
> > >
> > >> On 2019/04/03 05:35:25, Dinesh Joshi <di...@yahoo.com.INVALID> wrote:
> > >> I have reached out to them seeking clarification. Will let you all know when I hear back.
> > >>
> > >> Dinesh
> > >>
> > >>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:33 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi Aizhamal
> > >>>
> > >>> The rules are that a maximum of 2 technical writers will be allocated per organisation - and we are asking for the maximum. This is a Google constraint not ours. And even though we have asked for 2, if accepted there is also the possibility that we get allocated only 1.
> > >>>
> > >>> My thought is that unlike GSoC where there are lots of students wanting to apply and participate, there is only a limited number of technical writers available so to ensure accepted organisations get at least one writer - it is being limited.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks
> > >>> Sharan
> > >>>
> > >>>> On 2019/04/02 21:57:20, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <ai...@google.com.INVALID> wrote:
> > >>>> Hi Sharan,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> We plan to prepare ideas list for at least 2 Apache projects, in particular
> > >>>> for Airflow, Beam and possibly Spark. I am sure there are other projects
> > >>>> that would like to participate, therefore I’m wondering whether 2 tech
> > >>>> writers will be enough? Can we ask for more?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I’m happy to chat further to figure out what’s the best course of action.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>> Aizhamal
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 14:03 Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Hi All
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> As mentioned the applications for the Google Season of Docs opened today
> > >>>>> and I'm working my way through it on behalf of the ASF.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> If accepted, we will be allocated either one or two techical writers.
> > >>>>> Google will also pay the ASF a stipend of $500 per technical writer
> > >>>>> mentored (which I hope can go directly to fundraising :-)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Each project that wants to participate must provide two mentors for each
> > >>>>> documentation project.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> As part of the application process there are a few things that we need to
> > >>>>> setup.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 1. Season of Docs Page and List of Project Ideas
> > >>>>> We need to create a public webpage about Season of Docs that contains the
> > >>>>> list of project ideas for documentation. I have created a page on the
> > >>>>> ComDev wiki https://s.apache.org/w4CH  with a table for projects to
> > >>>>> record their ideas.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 2. Alternative administrator.
> > >>>>> I’ve set myself up as the primary admin and Maxim as the alternative admin
> > >>>>> (Maxim, I need to confirm your contact email and you will also need to
> > >>>>> register as the alternative admin and I will email you the link offline)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 3. Mentors
> > >>>>> All mentors from the projects interested in participating must register
> > >>>>> individually at the following link : https://forms.gle/a1x26WQGzURLerv66.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 4. Application Form: Documentation / Technnial Writer Collaboration
> > >>>>> There is a section to fill in about experience with documentation and any
> > >>>>> previous collaboration with technical writers. I know a few projects have
> > >>>>> used various tools for documentation - but not sure about any technical
> > >>>>> writing collaboration (so if you know of any then please let me know)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 5. Application Form: GSoC
> > >>>>> There is a section to complete at our participation in GSoC.I think I have
> > >>>>> the details from our application this year so can follow up with Maxim or
> > >>>>> Uli about it
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> This is all I have at the moment and we have until the 23rd April 2019 to
> > >>>>> finalise all the application details. Ideally I want to have it done well
> > >>>>> before then :-)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Please pass on this information within your various projects and as with
> > >>>>> GSoC - I'll see how we can get this information out to all our project
> > >>>>> mailing lists.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks
> > >>>>> Sharan
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
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> > >>>>
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> > >>>>
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Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>]

In such case I see no need in ASF wide org admins ....
"it's every man for himself." (c)

On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 22:24, Dinesh Joshi
<di...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> I heard back. Here’s the exact response -
>
> “I believe the ASF has already applied. However, we are not setup to handle multiple applications through an umbrella organization, so yes, you may want to have Apache Cassandra apply separately.”
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dinesh
>
> > On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:39 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > That's great Dinesh.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sharan
> >
> >> On 2019/04/03 05:35:25, Dinesh Joshi <di...@yahoo.com.INVALID> wrote:
> >> I have reached out to them seeking clarification. Will let you all know when I hear back.
> >>
> >> Dinesh
> >>
> >>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:33 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Aizhamal
> >>>
> >>> The rules are that a maximum of 2 technical writers will be allocated per organisation - and we are asking for the maximum. This is a Google constraint not ours. And even though we have asked for 2, if accepted there is also the possibility that we get allocated only 1.
> >>>
> >>> My thought is that unlike GSoC where there are lots of students wanting to apply and participate, there is only a limited number of technical writers available so to ensure accepted organisations get at least one writer - it is being limited.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Sharan
> >>>
> >>>> On 2019/04/02 21:57:20, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <ai...@google.com.INVALID> wrote:
> >>>> Hi Sharan,
> >>>>
> >>>> We plan to prepare ideas list for at least 2 Apache projects, in particular
> >>>> for Airflow, Beam and possibly Spark. I am sure there are other projects
> >>>> that would like to participate, therefore I’m wondering whether 2 tech
> >>>> writers will be enough? Can we ask for more?
> >>>>
> >>>> I’m happy to chat further to figure out what’s the best course of action.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Aizhamal
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 14:03 Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi All
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As mentioned the applications for the Google Season of Docs opened today
> >>>>> and I'm working my way through it on behalf of the ASF.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If accepted, we will be allocated either one or two techical writers.
> >>>>> Google will also pay the ASF a stipend of $500 per technical writer
> >>>>> mentored (which I hope can go directly to fundraising :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Each project that wants to participate must provide two mentors for each
> >>>>> documentation project.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As part of the application process there are a few things that we need to
> >>>>> setup.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1. Season of Docs Page and List of Project Ideas
> >>>>> We need to create a public webpage about Season of Docs that contains the
> >>>>> list of project ideas for documentation. I have created a page on the
> >>>>> ComDev wiki https://s.apache.org/w4CH  with a table for projects to
> >>>>> record their ideas.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2. Alternative administrator.
> >>>>> I’ve set myself up as the primary admin and Maxim as the alternative admin
> >>>>> (Maxim, I need to confirm your contact email and you will also need to
> >>>>> register as the alternative admin and I will email you the link offline)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 3. Mentors
> >>>>> All mentors from the projects interested in participating must register
> >>>>> individually at the following link : https://forms.gle/a1x26WQGzURLerv66.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 4. Application Form: Documentation / Technnial Writer Collaboration
> >>>>> There is a section to fill in about experience with documentation and any
> >>>>> previous collaboration with technical writers. I know a few projects have
> >>>>> used various tools for documentation - but not sure about any technical
> >>>>> writing collaboration (so if you know of any then please let me know)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 5. Application Form: GSoC
> >>>>> There is a section to complete at our participation in GSoC.I think I have
> >>>>> the details from our application this year so can follow up with Maxim or
> >>>>> Uli about it
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is all I have at the moment and we have until the 23rd April 2019 to
> >>>>> finalise all the application details. Ideally I want to have it done well
> >>>>> before then :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please pass on this information within your various projects and as with
> >>>>> GSoC - I'll see how we can get this information out to all our project
> >>>>> mailing lists.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>> Sharan
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
> >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> *Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy*
> >>>>
> >>>> Open Source Program Manager
> >>>>
> >>>> 646-355-9740 Mobile
> >>>>
> >>>> 601 North 34th Street, Seattle, WA 98103
> >>>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>
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Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Dinesh Joshi <di...@yahoo.com.INVALID>]

I heard back. Here’s the exact response -

“I believe the ASF has already applied. However, we are not setup to handle multiple applications through an umbrella organization, so yes, you may want to have Apache Cassandra apply separately.”

Thanks,

Dinesh

> On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:39 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> That's great Dinesh. 
> 
> Thanks
> Sharan
> 
>> On 2019/04/03 05:35:25, Dinesh Joshi <di...@yahoo.com.INVALID> wrote: 
>> I have reached out to them seeking clarification. Will let you all know when I hear back.
>> 
>> Dinesh
>> 
>>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:33 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Aizhamal
>>> 
>>> The rules are that a maximum of 2 technical writers will be allocated per organisation - and we are asking for the maximum. This is a Google constraint not ours. And even though we have asked for 2, if accepted there is also the possibility that we get allocated only 1.
>>> 
>>> My thought is that unlike GSoC where there are lots of students wanting to apply and participate, there is only a limited number of technical writers available so to ensure accepted organisations get at least one writer - it is being limited.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Sharan
>>> 
>>>> On 2019/04/02 21:57:20, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <ai...@google.com.INVALID> wrote: 
>>>> Hi Sharan,
>>>> 
>>>> We plan to prepare ideas list for at least 2 Apache projects, in particular
>>>> for Airflow, Beam and possibly Spark. I am sure there are other projects
>>>> that would like to participate, therefore I’m wondering whether 2 tech
>>>> writers will be enough? Can we ask for more?
>>>> 
>>>> I’m happy to chat further to figure out what’s the best course of action.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Aizhamal
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 14:03 Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi All
>>>>> 
>>>>> As mentioned the applications for the Google Season of Docs opened today
>>>>> and I'm working my way through it on behalf of the ASF.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If accepted, we will be allocated either one or two techical writers.
>>>>> Google will also pay the ASF a stipend of $500 per technical writer
>>>>> mentored (which I hope can go directly to fundraising :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Each project that wants to participate must provide two mentors for each
>>>>> documentation project.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As part of the application process there are a few things that we need to
>>>>> setup.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. Season of Docs Page and List of Project Ideas
>>>>> We need to create a public webpage about Season of Docs that contains the
>>>>> list of project ideas for documentation. I have created a page on the
>>>>> ComDev wiki https://s.apache.org/w4CH  with a table for projects to
>>>>> record their ideas.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2. Alternative administrator.
>>>>> I’ve set myself up as the primary admin and Maxim as the alternative admin
>>>>> (Maxim, I need to confirm your contact email and you will also need to
>>>>> register as the alternative admin and I will email you the link offline)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3. Mentors
>>>>> All mentors from the projects interested in participating must register
>>>>> individually at the following link : https://forms.gle/a1x26WQGzURLerv66.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 4. Application Form: Documentation / Technnial Writer Collaboration
>>>>> There is a section to fill in about experience with documentation and any
>>>>> previous collaboration with technical writers. I know a few projects have
>>>>> used various tools for documentation - but not sure about any technical
>>>>> writing collaboration (so if you know of any then please let me know)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 5. Application Form: GSoC
>>>>> There is a section to complete at our participation in GSoC.I think I have
>>>>> the details from our application this year so can follow up with Maxim or
>>>>> Uli about it
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is all I have at the moment and we have until the 23rd April 2019 to
>>>>> finalise all the application details. Ideally I want to have it done well
>>>>> before then :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please pass on this information within your various projects and as with
>>>>> GSoC - I'll see how we can get this information out to all our project
>>>>> mailing lists.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Sharan
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>> 
>>>> *Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy*
>>>> 
>>>> Open Source Program Manager
>>>> 
>>>> 646-355-9740 Mobile
>>>> 
>>>> 601 North 34th Street, Seattle, WA 98103
>>>> 
>>> 
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Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>]

That's great Dinesh. 

Thanks
Sharan

On 2019/04/03 05:35:25, Dinesh Joshi <di...@yahoo.com.INVALID> wrote: 
> I have reached out to them seeking clarification. Will let you all know when I hear back.
> 
> Dinesh
> 
> > On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:33 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Aizhamal
> > 
> > The rules are that a maximum of 2 technical writers will be allocated per organisation - and we are asking for the maximum. This is a Google constraint not ours. And even though we have asked for 2, if accepted there is also the possibility that we get allocated only 1.
> > 
> > My thought is that unlike GSoC where there are lots of students wanting to apply and participate, there is only a limited number of technical writers available so to ensure accepted organisations get at least one writer - it is being limited.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Sharan
> > 
> > On 2019/04/02 21:57:20, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <ai...@google.com.INVALID> wrote: 
> >> Hi Sharan,
> >> 
> >> We plan to prepare ideas list for at least 2 Apache projects, in particular
> >> for Airflow, Beam and possibly Spark. I am sure there are other projects
> >> that would like to participate, therefore I’m wondering whether 2 tech
> >> writers will be enough? Can we ask for more?
> >> 
> >> I’m happy to chat further to figure out what’s the best course of action.
> >> 
> >> Thanks,
> >> Aizhamal
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 14:03 Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Hi All
> >>> 
> >>> As mentioned the applications for the Google Season of Docs opened today
> >>> and I'm working my way through it on behalf of the ASF.
> >>> 
> >>> If accepted, we will be allocated either one or two techical writers.
> >>> Google will also pay the ASF a stipend of $500 per technical writer
> >>> mentored (which I hope can go directly to fundraising :-)
> >>> 
> >>> Each project that wants to participate must provide two mentors for each
> >>> documentation project.
> >>> 
> >>> As part of the application process there are a few things that we need to
> >>> setup.
> >>> 
> >>> 1. Season of Docs Page and List of Project Ideas
> >>> We need to create a public webpage about Season of Docs that contains the
> >>> list of project ideas for documentation. I have created a page on the
> >>> ComDev wiki https://s.apache.org/w4CH  with a table for projects to
> >>> record their ideas.
> >>> 
> >>> 2. Alternative administrator.
> >>> I’ve set myself up as the primary admin and Maxim as the alternative admin
> >>> (Maxim, I need to confirm your contact email and you will also need to
> >>> register as the alternative admin and I will email you the link offline)
> >>> 
> >>> 3. Mentors
> >>> All mentors from the projects interested in participating must register
> >>> individually at the following link : https://forms.gle/a1x26WQGzURLerv66.
> >>> 
> >>> 4. Application Form: Documentation / Technnial Writer Collaboration
> >>> There is a section to fill in about experience with documentation and any
> >>> previous collaboration with technical writers. I know a few projects have
> >>> used various tools for documentation - but not sure about any technical
> >>> writing collaboration (so if you know of any then please let me know)
> >>> 
> >>> 5. Application Form: GSoC
> >>> There is a section to complete at our participation in GSoC.I think I have
> >>> the details from our application this year so can follow up with Maxim or
> >>> Uli about it
> >>> 
> >>> This is all I have at the moment and we have until the 23rd April 2019 to
> >>> finalise all the application details. Ideally I want to have it done well
> >>> before then :-)
> >>> 
> >>> Please pass on this information within your various projects and as with
> >>> GSoC - I'll see how we can get this information out to all our project
> >>> mailing lists.
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Sharan
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
> >>> 
> >>> --
> >> 
> >> *Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy*
> >> 
> >> Open Source Program Manager
> >> 
> >> 646-355-9740 Mobile
> >> 
> >> 601 North 34th Street, Seattle, WA 98103
> >> 
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Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Dinesh Joshi <di...@yahoo.com.INVALID>]

I have reached out to them seeking clarification. Will let you all know when I hear back.

Dinesh

> On Apr 2, 2019, at 10:33 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Aizhamal
> 
> The rules are that a maximum of 2 technical writers will be allocated per organisation - and we are asking for the maximum. This is a Google constraint not ours. And even though we have asked for 2, if accepted there is also the possibility that we get allocated only 1.
> 
> My thought is that unlike GSoC where there are lots of students wanting to apply and participate, there is only a limited number of technical writers available so to ensure accepted organisations get at least one writer - it is being limited.
> 
> Thanks
> Sharan
> 
> On 2019/04/02 21:57:20, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <ai...@google.com.INVALID> wrote: 
>> Hi Sharan,
>> 
>> We plan to prepare ideas list for at least 2 Apache projects, in particular
>> for Airflow, Beam and possibly Spark. I am sure there are other projects
>> that would like to participate, therefore I’m wondering whether 2 tech
>> writers will be enough? Can we ask for more?
>> 
>> I’m happy to chat further to figure out what’s the best course of action.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Aizhamal
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 14:03 Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi All
>>> 
>>> As mentioned the applications for the Google Season of Docs opened today
>>> and I'm working my way through it on behalf of the ASF.
>>> 
>>> If accepted, we will be allocated either one or two techical writers.
>>> Google will also pay the ASF a stipend of $500 per technical writer
>>> mentored (which I hope can go directly to fundraising :-)
>>> 
>>> Each project that wants to participate must provide two mentors for each
>>> documentation project.
>>> 
>>> As part of the application process there are a few things that we need to
>>> setup.
>>> 
>>> 1. Season of Docs Page and List of Project Ideas
>>> We need to create a public webpage about Season of Docs that contains the
>>> list of project ideas for documentation. I have created a page on the
>>> ComDev wiki https://s.apache.org/w4CH  with a table for projects to
>>> record their ideas.
>>> 
>>> 2. Alternative administrator.
>>> I’ve set myself up as the primary admin and Maxim as the alternative admin
>>> (Maxim, I need to confirm your contact email and you will also need to
>>> register as the alternative admin and I will email you the link offline)
>>> 
>>> 3. Mentors
>>> All mentors from the projects interested in participating must register
>>> individually at the following link : https://forms.gle/a1x26WQGzURLerv66.
>>> 
>>> 4. Application Form: Documentation / Technnial Writer Collaboration
>>> There is a section to fill in about experience with documentation and any
>>> previous collaboration with technical writers. I know a few projects have
>>> used various tools for documentation - but not sure about any technical
>>> writing collaboration (so if you know of any then please let me know)
>>> 
>>> 5. Application Form: GSoC
>>> There is a section to complete at our participation in GSoC.I think I have
>>> the details from our application this year so can follow up with Maxim or
>>> Uli about it
>>> 
>>> This is all I have at the moment and we have until the 23rd April 2019 to
>>> finalise all the application details. Ideally I want to have it done well
>>> before then :-)
>>> 
>>> Please pass on this information within your various projects and as with
>>> GSoC - I'll see how we can get this information out to all our project
>>> mailing lists.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Sharan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
>>> 
>>> --
>> 
>> *Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy*
>> 
>> Open Source Program Manager
>> 
>> 646-355-9740 Mobile
>> 
>> 601 North 34th Street, Seattle, WA 98103
>> 
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Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>]

Hi Aizhamal

The rules are that a maximum of 2 technical writers will be allocated per organisation - and we are asking for the maximum. This is a Google constraint not ours. And even though we have asked for 2, if accepted there is also the possibility that we get allocated only 1.

My thought is that unlike GSoC where there are lots of students wanting to apply and participate, there is only a limited number of technical writers available so to ensure accepted organisations get at least one writer - it is being limited.

Thanks
Sharan

On 2019/04/02 21:57:20, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <ai...@google.com.INVALID> wrote: 
> Hi Sharan,
> 
> We plan to prepare ideas list for at least 2 Apache projects, in particular
> for Airflow, Beam and possibly Spark. I am sure there are other projects
> that would like to participate, therefore I’m wondering whether 2 tech
> writers will be enough? Can we ask for more?
> 
> I’m happy to chat further to figure out what’s the best course of action.
> 
> Thanks,
> Aizhamal
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 14:03 Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> > Hi All
> >
> > As mentioned the applications for the Google Season of Docs opened today
> > and I'm working my way through it on behalf of the ASF.
> >
> > If accepted, we will be allocated either one or two techical writers.
> > Google will also pay the ASF a stipend of $500 per technical writer
> > mentored (which I hope can go directly to fundraising :-)
> >
> > Each project that wants to participate must provide two mentors for each
> > documentation project.
> >
> > As part of the application process there are a few things that we need to
> > setup.
> >
> > 1. Season of Docs Page and List of Project Ideas
> > We need to create a public webpage about Season of Docs that contains the
> > list of project ideas for documentation. I have created a page on the
> > ComDev wiki https://s.apache.org/w4CH  with a table for projects to
> > record their ideas.
> >
> > 2. Alternative administrator.
> > I’ve set myself up as the primary admin and Maxim as the alternative admin
> > (Maxim, I need to confirm your contact email and you will also need to
> > register as the alternative admin and I will email you the link offline)
> >
> > 3. Mentors
> > All mentors from the projects interested in participating must register
> > individually at the following link : https://forms.gle/a1x26WQGzURLerv66.
> >
> > 4. Application Form: Documentation / Technnial Writer Collaboration
> > There is a section to fill in about experience with documentation and any
> > previous collaboration with technical writers. I know a few projects have
> > used various tools for documentation - but not sure about any technical
> > writing collaboration (so if you know of any then please let me know)
> >
> > 5. Application Form: GSoC
> > There is a section to complete at our participation in GSoC.I think I have
> > the details from our application this year so can follow up with Maxim or
> > Uli about it
> >
> > This is all I have at the moment and we have until the 23rd April 2019 to
> > finalise all the application details. Ideally I want to have it done well
> > before then :-)
> >
> > Please pass on this information within your various projects and as with
> > GSoC - I'll see how we can get this information out to all our project
> > mailing lists.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sharan
> >
> >
> >
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Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>]

On 2019/04/03 04:47:24, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> Hello Dinesh,
> 
> According to
> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/terms/program-rules
> 1.13 "*Organization*" means the open source organization that registers for
> the Program as an organization.
> 
> I believe this is the ASF
> 
> Sharan could you clarify?
> 

Yes - this is my understanding as well. Also parts of the application make reference to GSoC and it is the ASF as an organisation that registers for GSoC even though many projects participate in it.

Thanks
Sharan


> On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 11:44, Dinesh Joshi <di...@yahoo.com.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
> > I am slightly confused here. I believe each ASF project that wishes to
> > participate can qualify as an organization. If the whole of ASF were to be
> > enrolled as an organization, that would limit the ASF to 1 technical
> > writer. Can someone please clarify what the rules are?
> >
> > Dinesh
> >
> > > On Apr 2, 2019, at 8:31 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > If I'm not mistaken rules are:
> > > one tech writer - 2 mentors
> > >
> > > So I doubt all proposals will be covered
> > > We have to wisely choose best proposals, and hopefully next year we will
> > > get more tech writers
> > >
> > > On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 04:57, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
> > > <ai...@google.com.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Sharan,
> > >>
> > >> We plan to prepare ideas list for at least 2 Apache projects, in
> > particular
> > >> for Airflow, Beam and possibly Spark. I am sure there are other projects
> > >> that would like to participate, therefore I’m wondering whether 2 tech
> > >> writers will be enough? Can we ask for more?
> > >>
> > >> I’m happy to chat further to figure out what’s the best course of
> > action.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Aizhamal
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 14:03 Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi All
> > >>>
> > >>> As mentioned the applications for the Google Season of Docs opened
> > today
> > >>> and I'm working my way through it on behalf of the ASF.
> > >>>
> > >>> If accepted, we will be allocated either one or two techical writers.
> > >>> Google will also pay the ASF a stipend of $500 per technical writer
> > >>> mentored (which I hope can go directly to fundraising :-)
> > >>>
> > >>> Each project that wants to participate must provide two mentors for
> > each
> > >>> documentation project.
> > >>>
> > >>> As part of the application process there are a few things that we need
> > to
> > >>> setup.
> > >>>
> > >>> 1. Season of Docs Page and List of Project Ideas
> > >>> We need to create a public webpage about Season of Docs that contains
> > the
> > >>> list of project ideas for documentation. I have created a page on the
> > >>> ComDev wiki https://s.apache.org/w4CH  with a table for projects to
> > >>> record their ideas.
> > >>>
> > >>> 2. Alternative administrator.
> > >>> I’ve set myself up as the primary admin and Maxim as the alternative
> > >> admin
> > >>> (Maxim, I need to confirm your contact email and you will also need to
> > >>> register as the alternative admin and I will email you the link
> > offline)
> > >>>
> > >>> 3. Mentors
> > >>> All mentors from the projects interested in participating must register
> > >>> individually at the following link :
> > https://forms.gle/a1x26WQGzURLerv66
> > >> .
> > >>>
> > >>> 4. Application Form: Documentation / Technnial Writer Collaboration
> > >>> There is a section to fill in about experience with documentation and
> > any
> > >>> previous collaboration with technical writers. I know a few projects
> > have
> > >>> used various tools for documentation - but not sure about any technical
> > >>> writing collaboration (so if you know of any then please let me know)
> > >>>
> > >>> 5. Application Form: GSoC
> > >>> There is a section to complete at our participation in GSoC.I think I
> > >> have
> > >>> the details from our application this year so can follow up with Maxim
> > or
> > >>> Uli about it
> > >>>
> > >>> This is all I have at the moment and we have until the 23rd April 2019
> > to
> > >>> finalise all the application details. Ideally I want to have it done
> > well
> > >>> before then :-)
> > >>>
> > >>> Please pass on this information within your various projects and as
> > with
> > >>> GSoC - I'll see how we can get this information out to all our project
> > >>> mailing lists.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks
> > >>> Sharan
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
> > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>
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> > >>
> > >> Open Source Program Manager
> > >>
> > >> 646-355-9740 Mobile
> > >>
> > >> 601 North 34th Street, Seattle, WA 98103
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > WBR
> > > Maxim aka solomax
> >
> >
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Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>]

Hello Dinesh,

According to
https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/terms/program-rules
1.13 "*Organization*" means the open source organization that registers for
the Program as an organization.

I believe this is the ASF

Sharan could you clarify?

On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 11:44, Dinesh Joshi <di...@yahoo.com.invalid>
wrote:

> I am slightly confused here. I believe each ASF project that wishes to
> participate can qualify as an organization. If the whole of ASF were to be
> enrolled as an organization, that would limit the ASF to 1 technical
> writer. Can someone please clarify what the rules are?
>
> Dinesh
>
> > On Apr 2, 2019, at 8:31 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > If I'm not mistaken rules are:
> > one tech writer - 2 mentors
> >
> > So I doubt all proposals will be covered
> > We have to wisely choose best proposals, and hopefully next year we will
> > get more tech writers
> >
> > On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 04:57, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
> > <ai...@google.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Sharan,
> >>
> >> We plan to prepare ideas list for at least 2 Apache projects, in
> particular
> >> for Airflow, Beam and possibly Spark. I am sure there are other projects
> >> that would like to participate, therefore I’m wondering whether 2 tech
> >> writers will be enough? Can we ask for more?
> >>
> >> I’m happy to chat further to figure out what’s the best course of
> action.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Aizhamal
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 14:03 Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi All
> >>>
> >>> As mentioned the applications for the Google Season of Docs opened
> today
> >>> and I'm working my way through it on behalf of the ASF.
> >>>
> >>> If accepted, we will be allocated either one or two techical writers.
> >>> Google will also pay the ASF a stipend of $500 per technical writer
> >>> mentored (which I hope can go directly to fundraising :-)
> >>>
> >>> Each project that wants to participate must provide two mentors for
> each
> >>> documentation project.
> >>>
> >>> As part of the application process there are a few things that we need
> to
> >>> setup.
> >>>
> >>> 1. Season of Docs Page and List of Project Ideas
> >>> We need to create a public webpage about Season of Docs that contains
> the
> >>> list of project ideas for documentation. I have created a page on the
> >>> ComDev wiki https://s.apache.org/w4CH  with a table for projects to
> >>> record their ideas.
> >>>
> >>> 2. Alternative administrator.
> >>> I’ve set myself up as the primary admin and Maxim as the alternative
> >> admin
> >>> (Maxim, I need to confirm your contact email and you will also need to
> >>> register as the alternative admin and I will email you the link
> offline)
> >>>
> >>> 3. Mentors
> >>> All mentors from the projects interested in participating must register
> >>> individually at the following link :
> https://forms.gle/a1x26WQGzURLerv66
> >> .
> >>>
> >>> 4. Application Form: Documentation / Technnial Writer Collaboration
> >>> There is a section to fill in about experience with documentation and
> any
> >>> previous collaboration with technical writers. I know a few projects
> have
> >>> used various tools for documentation - but not sure about any technical
> >>> writing collaboration (so if you know of any then please let me know)
> >>>
> >>> 5. Application Form: GSoC
> >>> There is a section to complete at our participation in GSoC.I think I
> >> have
> >>> the details from our application this year so can follow up with Maxim
> or
> >>> Uli about it
> >>>
> >>> This is all I have at the moment and we have until the 23rd April 2019
> to
> >>> finalise all the application details. Ideally I want to have it done
> well
> >>> before then :-)
> >>>
> >>> Please pass on this information within your various projects and as
> with
> >>> GSoC - I'll see how we can get this information out to all our project
> >>> mailing lists.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Sharan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>
> >> *Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy*
> >>
> >> Open Source Program Manager
> >>
> >> 646-355-9740 Mobile
> >>
> >> 601 North 34th Street, Seattle, WA 98103
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > WBR
> > Maxim aka solomax
>
>
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Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Dinesh Joshi <di...@yahoo.com.INVALID>]

I am slightly confused here. I believe each ASF project that wishes to participate can qualify as an organization. If the whole of ASF were to be enrolled as an organization, that would limit the ASF to 1 technical writer. Can someone please clarify what the rules are?

Dinesh

> On Apr 2, 2019, at 8:31 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> If I'm not mistaken rules are:
> one tech writer - 2 mentors
> 
> So I doubt all proposals will be covered
> We have to wisely choose best proposals, and hopefully next year we will
> get more tech writers
> 
> On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 04:57, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
> <ai...@google.com.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sharan,
>> 
>> We plan to prepare ideas list for at least 2 Apache projects, in particular
>> for Airflow, Beam and possibly Spark. I am sure there are other projects
>> that would like to participate, therefore I’m wondering whether 2 tech
>> writers will be enough? Can we ask for more?
>> 
>> I’m happy to chat further to figure out what’s the best course of action.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Aizhamal
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 14:03 Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi All
>>> 
>>> As mentioned the applications for the Google Season of Docs opened today
>>> and I'm working my way through it on behalf of the ASF.
>>> 
>>> If accepted, we will be allocated either one or two techical writers.
>>> Google will also pay the ASF a stipend of $500 per technical writer
>>> mentored (which I hope can go directly to fundraising :-)
>>> 
>>> Each project that wants to participate must provide two mentors for each
>>> documentation project.
>>> 
>>> As part of the application process there are a few things that we need to
>>> setup.
>>> 
>>> 1. Season of Docs Page and List of Project Ideas
>>> We need to create a public webpage about Season of Docs that contains the
>>> list of project ideas for documentation. I have created a page on the
>>> ComDev wiki https://s.apache.org/w4CH  with a table for projects to
>>> record their ideas.
>>> 
>>> 2. Alternative administrator.
>>> I’ve set myself up as the primary admin and Maxim as the alternative
>> admin
>>> (Maxim, I need to confirm your contact email and you will also need to
>>> register as the alternative admin and I will email you the link offline)
>>> 
>>> 3. Mentors
>>> All mentors from the projects interested in participating must register
>>> individually at the following link : https://forms.gle/a1x26WQGzURLerv66
>> .
>>> 
>>> 4. Application Form: Documentation / Technnial Writer Collaboration
>>> There is a section to fill in about experience with documentation and any
>>> previous collaboration with technical writers. I know a few projects have
>>> used various tools for documentation - but not sure about any technical
>>> writing collaboration (so if you know of any then please let me know)
>>> 
>>> 5. Application Form: GSoC
>>> There is a section to complete at our participation in GSoC.I think I
>> have
>>> the details from our application this year so can follow up with Maxim or
>>> Uli about it
>>> 
>>> This is all I have at the moment and we have until the 23rd April 2019 to
>>> finalise all the application details. Ideally I want to have it done well
>>> before then :-)
>>> 
>>> Please pass on this information within your various projects and as with
>>> GSoC - I'll see how we can get this information out to all our project
>>> mailing lists.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Sharan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
>>> 
>>> --
>> 
>> *Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy*
>> 
>> Open Source Program Manager
>> 
>> 646-355-9740 Mobile
>> 
>> 601 North 34th Street, Seattle, WA 98103
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax


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Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>]

If I'm not mistaken rules are:
one tech writer - 2 mentors

So I doubt all proposals will be covered
We have to wisely choose best proposals, and hopefully next year we will
get more tech writers

On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 at 04:57, Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy
<ai...@google.com.invalid> wrote:

> Hi Sharan,
>
> We plan to prepare ideas list for at least 2 Apache projects, in particular
> for Airflow, Beam and possibly Spark. I am sure there are other projects
> that would like to participate, therefore I’m wondering whether 2 tech
> writers will be enough? Can we ask for more?
>
> I’m happy to chat further to figure out what’s the best course of action.
>
> Thanks,
> Aizhamal
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 14:03 Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi All
> >
> > As mentioned the applications for the Google Season of Docs opened today
> > and I'm working my way through it on behalf of the ASF.
> >
> > If accepted, we will be allocated either one or two techical writers.
> > Google will also pay the ASF a stipend of $500 per technical writer
> > mentored (which I hope can go directly to fundraising :-)
> >
> > Each project that wants to participate must provide two mentors for each
> > documentation project.
> >
> > As part of the application process there are a few things that we need to
> > setup.
> >
> > 1. Season of Docs Page and List of Project Ideas
> > We need to create a public webpage about Season of Docs that contains the
> > list of project ideas for documentation. I have created a page on the
> > ComDev wiki https://s.apache.org/w4CH  with a table for projects to
> > record their ideas.
> >
> > 2. Alternative administrator.
> > I’ve set myself up as the primary admin and Maxim as the alternative
> admin
> > (Maxim, I need to confirm your contact email and you will also need to
> > register as the alternative admin and I will email you the link offline)
> >
> > 3. Mentors
> > All mentors from the projects interested in participating must register
> > individually at the following link : https://forms.gle/a1x26WQGzURLerv66
> .
> >
> > 4. Application Form: Documentation / Technnial Writer Collaboration
> > There is a section to fill in about experience with documentation and any
> > previous collaboration with technical writers. I know a few projects have
> > used various tools for documentation - but not sure about any technical
> > writing collaboration (so if you know of any then please let me know)
> >
> > 5. Application Form: GSoC
> > There is a section to complete at our participation in GSoC.I think I
> have
> > the details from our application this year so can follow up with Maxim or
> > Uli about it
> >
> > This is all I have at the moment and we have until the 23rd April 2019 to
> > finalise all the application details. Ideally I want to have it done well
> > before then :-)
> >
> > Please pass on this information within your various projects and as with
> > GSoC - I'll see how we can get this information out to all our project
> > mailing lists.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sharan
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
> >
> > --
>
> *Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy*
>
> Open Source Program Manager
>
> 646-355-9740 Mobile
>
> 601 North 34th Street, Seattle, WA 98103
>


-- 
WBR
Maxim aka solomax

Re: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Aizhamal Nurmamat kyzy <ai...@google.com.INVALID>]

Hi Sharan,

We plan to prepare ideas list for at least 2 Apache projects, in particular
for Airflow, Beam and possibly Spark. I am sure there are other projects
that would like to participate, therefore I’m wondering whether 2 tech
writers will be enough? Can we ask for more?

I’m happy to chat further to figure out what’s the best course of action.

Thanks,
Aizhamal


On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 14:03 Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi All
>
> As mentioned the applications for the Google Season of Docs opened today
> and I'm working my way through it on behalf of the ASF.
>
> If accepted, we will be allocated either one or two techical writers.
> Google will also pay the ASF a stipend of $500 per technical writer
> mentored (which I hope can go directly to fundraising :-)
>
> Each project that wants to participate must provide two mentors for each
> documentation project.
>
> As part of the application process there are a few things that we need to
> setup.
>
> 1. Season of Docs Page and List of Project Ideas
> We need to create a public webpage about Season of Docs that contains the
> list of project ideas for documentation. I have created a page on the
> ComDev wiki https://s.apache.org/w4CH  with a table for projects to
> record their ideas.
>
> 2. Alternative administrator.
> I’ve set myself up as the primary admin and Maxim as the alternative admin
> (Maxim, I need to confirm your contact email and you will also need to
> register as the alternative admin and I will email you the link offline)
>
> 3. Mentors
> All mentors from the projects interested in participating must register
> individually at the following link : https://forms.gle/a1x26WQGzURLerv66.
>
> 4. Application Form: Documentation / Technnial Writer Collaboration
> There is a section to fill in about experience with documentation and any
> previous collaboration with technical writers. I know a few projects have
> used various tools for documentation - but not sure about any technical
> writing collaboration (so if you know of any then please let me know)
>
> 5. Application Form: GSoC
> There is a section to complete at our participation in GSoC.I think I have
> the details from our application this year so can follow up with Maxim or
> Uli about it
>
> This is all I have at the moment and we have until the 23rd April 2019 to
> finalise all the application details. Ideally I want to have it done well
> before then :-)
>
> Please pass on this information within your various projects and as with
> GSoC - I'll see how we can get this information out to all our project
> mailing lists.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@community.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@community.apache.org
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> --

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Open Source Program Manager

646-355-9740 Mobile

601 North 34th Street, Seattle, WA 98103

Fwd: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

[Joan Touzet <wo...@apache.org>]

Any interest? Note: we'd need *2* mentors from CouchDB to help drive this.

-Joan

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To: dev@community.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, 2 April, 2019 5:03:06 PM
Subject: ASF Application for Google Season of Docs 2019

Hi All

As mentioned the applications for the Google Season of Docs opened today and I'm working my way through it on behalf of the ASF. 

If accepted, we will be allocated either one or two techical writers. Google will also pay the ASF a stipend of $500 per technical writer mentored (which I hope can go directly to fundraising :-)

Each project that wants to participate must provide two mentors for each documentation project.  

As part of the application process there are a few things that we need to setup.

1. Season of Docs Page and List of Project Ideas
We need to create a public webpage about Season of Docs that contains the list of project ideas for documentation. I have created a page on the ComDev wiki https://s.apache.org/w4CH  with a table for projects to record their ideas.

2. Alternative administrator.
I’ve set myself up as the primary admin and Maxim as the alternative admin (Maxim, I need to confirm your contact email and you will also need to register as the alternative admin and I will email you the link offline)

3. Mentors
All mentors from the projects interested in participating must register individually at the following link : https://forms.gle/a1x26WQGzURLerv66.

4. Application Form: Documentation / Technnial Writer Collaboration
There is a section to fill in about experience with documentation and any previous collaboration with technical writers. I know a few projects have used various tools for documentation - but not sure about any technical writing collaboration (so if you know of any then please let me know)

5. Application Form: GSoC
There is a section to complete at our participation in GSoC.I think I have the details from our application this year so can follow up with Maxim or Uli about it

This is all I have at the moment and we have until the 23rd April 2019 to finalise all the application details. Ideally I want to have it done well before then :-)

Please pass on this information within your various projects and as with GSoC - I'll see how we can get this information out to all our project mailing lists.

Thanks
Sharan



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