Re: [VOTE] FLIP-188 Introduce Built-in Dynamic Table Storage

[Jingsong Li <ji...@gmail.com>]

Hi all,

I'm happy to announce that FLIP-188 is approved. We have 8 approving votes,
5 of which are binding:

Neng Lu  (non-binding)
Kurt  Young (binding)
Yufei Zhang  (non-binding)
Jing Zhang  (non-binding)
Jark Wu  (binding)
Stephan Ewen  (binding)
Timo Walther (binding)
Godfrey He (binding)

Thanks everyone for voting!

Best,
Jingsong

On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 7:09 PM godfrey he <go...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> +1 (binding)
>
> Best,
> Godfrey
>
> Jark Wu <im...@gmail.com> 于2021年11月30日周二 下午5:47写道：
>
> >
> > Thanks for the great discussion and updating.
> > Still +1 from my side.
> >
> > Best,
> > Jark
> >
> > On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 at 17:27, Kurt Young <yk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > +1 from my side.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Kurt
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 5:12 PM Jingsong Li <ji...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks to Stephan and Timo, this makes the design of FLIP much
> > > > clearer and more reliable.
> > > >
> > > > I request that you can take another look at the updated FLIP and
> > > > please respond directly if you have feedback.
> > > >
> > > > (I will contact binding voters directly to confirm)
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Jingsong
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 4:32 PM Timo Walther <tw...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the healthy discussion. Also +1 from my side for this FLIP.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Timo
> > > > >
> > > > > On 24.11.21 19:05, Stephan Ewen wrote:
> > > > > > Thanks for all the details and explanation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With the conclusion of the discussion, also +1 from my side for this
> > > > FLIP
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 12:23 PM Jingsong Li <jingsonglee0@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Thanks Stephan and Timo, I have a rough look at your replies. They
> > > are
> > > > > >> all valuable opinions. I will take time to discuss, explain and
> > > > > >> improve them.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Hi Timo,
> > > > > >>> At least a final "I will start the vote soon. Last call for
> > > > comments."
> > > > > >> would have been nice.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I replied in the DISCUSS thread that we began to vote. If there are
> > > > > >> supplementary comments or reply "pause voting first, I will reply
> > > > > >> later", we can suspend or cancel the voting at any time.
> > > > > >> I understand why the FLIP must take three days to vote, so that more
> > > > > >> people can see it and put forward their opinions.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Best,
> > > > > >> Jingsong
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 1:27 AM Timo Walther <tw...@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Hi everyone,
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> even though the DISCUSS thread was open for 2 weeks. I have the
> > > > feeling
> > > > > >>> that the VOTE was initiated to quickly. At least a final "I will
> > > > start
> > > > > >>> the vote soon. Last call for comments." would have been nice.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I also added some comments in the DISCUSS thread. Let's hope we can
> > > > > >>> resolve those soon.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Regards,
> > > > > >>> Timo
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> On 12.11.21 16:36, Stephan Ewen wrote:
> > > > > >>>> Hi all!
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> I have a few questions on the design still, posted those in the
> > > > > >> [DISCUSS]
> > > > > >>>> thread.
> > > > > >>>> It would be great to clarify those first before concluding this
> > > > vote.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > > >>>> Stephan
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 7:22 AM Jark Wu <im...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>> +1 (binding)
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Thanks for the great work Jingsong!
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Best,
> > > > > >>>>> Jark
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 at 19:41, JING ZHANG <be...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> +1 (non-binding)
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> A small suggestion:
> > > > > >>>>>> The message queue is currently used to store middle layer data
> > > of
> > > > the
> > > > > >>>>>> streaming data warehouse. We hope use built-in dynamic table
> > > > storage
> > > > > >> to
> > > > > >>>>>> store those middle layer.
> > > > > >>>>>> But those middle data of the streaming data warehouse are often
> > > > > >> provided
> > > > > >>>>> to
> > > > > >>>>>> all business teams in a company. Some teams have not use Apache
> > > > > >> Flink as
> > > > > >>>>>> compute engine yet. In order to continue server those teams, the
> > > > > >> data in
> > > > > >>>>>> built-in dynamic table storage may be needed to copied to
> > > message
> > > > > >> queue
> > > > > >>>>>> again.
> > > > > >>>>>> If *the built-in storage could provide same consumer API as the
> > > > > >> commonly
> > > > > >>>>>> used message queues*, data copying may be avoided. So the
> > > built-in
> > > > > >>>>> dynamic
> > > > > >>>>>> table storage may be promoted faster in the streaming data
> > > > warehouse
> > > > > >>>>>> business.
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Best regards,
> > > > > >>>>>> Jing Zhang
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Yufei Zhang <af...@apache.org> 于2021年11月11日周四 上午9:34写道：
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Hi,
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> +1 (non-binding)
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Very interesting design. I saw a lot of discussion on the
> > > generic
> > > > > >>>>>>> interface design, good to know it will address extensibility.
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Cheers,
> > > > > >>>>>>> Yufei
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> On 2021/11/10 02:51:55 Jingsong Li wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks for all the feedback so far. Based on the discussion[1]
> > > > we
> > > > > >>>>> seem
> > > > > >>>>>>>> to have consensus, so I would like to start a vote on FLIP-188
> > > > for
> > > > > >>>>>>>> which the FLIP has now also been updated[2].
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> The vote will last for at least 72 hours (Nov 13th 3:00 GMT)
> > > > unless
> > > > > >>>>>>>> there is an objection or insufficient votes.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/tqyn1cro5ohl3c3fkjb1zvxbo03sofn7
> > > > > >>>>>>>> [2]
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>
> > > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-188%3A+Introduce+Built-in+Dynamic+Table+Storage
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Best,
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Jingsong
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> --
> > > > > >> Best, Jingsong Lee
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Best, Jingsong Lee
> > > >
> > >



-- 
Best, Jingsong Lee